Re: [WISPA] Marina Hotspot Setup

[Timothy Steele]

Some are doing Ethernet over power line to allow more spectrum use there
are 100's of threads on this topic on the UBNT forums

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 1:50 PM Eagle One Wireless  wrote:

> Looking for some input. When we bought our wireless company we inherited a
> hotspot at a marina. We had to manually put in mac addresses in the AP’s in
> the beginning. It was brutal. So few years ago I found Chillifire.net and
> started using them with custom firmware for Rocket M2.
>
> It really a lot of trouble because is there is issue they are in New
> Zealand so we might be down or having issues for couple days. Since its
> custom firmware I cant get much help.
>
> Anyway fast forward to now. I was wondering what some of you are using at
> marinas? Ultimately this place doesn’t bring in much money as there is only
> a couple handfuls of customers that are there all the time. So I don’t want
> to spend a ton.
>
> My other issue is coverage. That’s my biggest complaint there now. We have
> 1 AP on each covered dock. I have a total of 5 2.4 Aps in a small area and
> noise is an issue as well.
>
>
>
> Have any of you tried the Outdoor Unifi with hotspot? If so how are your
> results?
>
>
>
> They are only setup to get 4Mb each
>
> I will attach a crude map of what it looks like as well.
>
> We have a Rocket M5 at tower with sector. Each dock currently has a loco
> m5 feeding it. Rocket M2 with UBNT Omni on the dock. We also tried UBNT
> Sector and shot straight down dock but it didn’t help much really. Docks
> all have metal roof.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Kevin Melson
>
> Eagle One Wireless\PC Station
>
> 1801 S Harper Rd
>
> Suite 4A
>
> Corinth, MS 38834
>
> 662-287-1722
>
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Re: [WISPA] Marina Hotspot Setup

[Blair Davis]

  
  
We have several resorts and campgrounds and a fairground running
  UniFi AP's with  MT Hotspot / UserManager as the controller.
Works well for us.
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On 9/20/2016 1:50 PM, Eagle One
  Wireless wrote:


  
  
  
  
Looking for some input. When we bought our
  wireless company we inherited a hotspot at a marina. We had to
  manually put in mac addresses in the AP’s in the beginning. It
  was brutal. So few years ago I found Chillifire.net and
  started using them with custom firmware for Rocket M2.
It really a lot of trouble because is there
  is issue they are in New Zealand so we might be down or having
  issues for couple days. Since its custom firmware I cant get
  much help.
Anyway fast forward to now. I was wondering
  what some of you are using at marinas? Ultimately this place
  doesn’t bring in much money as there is only a couple handfuls
  of customers that are there all the time. So I don’t want to
  spend a ton.
My other issue is coverage. That’s my
  biggest complaint there now. We have 1 AP on each covered
  dock. I have a total of 5 2.4 Aps in a small area and noise is
  an issue as well.
 
Have any of you tried the Outdoor Unifi
  with hotspot? If so how are your results?
 
They are only setup to get 4Mb each
I will attach a crude map of what it looks
  like as well.
We have a Rocket M5 at tower with sector.
  Each dock currently has a loco m5 feeding it. Rocket M2 with
  UBNT Omni on the dock. We also tried UBNT Sector and shot
  straight down dock but it didn’t help much really. Docks all
  have metal roof.
 
 
Thanks,
 
Kevin Melson
Eagle One Wireless\PC Station
1801 S Harper Rd
Suite 4A
Corinth, MS 38834
662-287-1722
e...@e1w.com
www.e1w.com
 
 
 
 
  
  
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] A sad day for All

[Jose Maria Salazar Garcia]

My thoughts and condolences  to his Family and all WISPA Family   :(

Jose Maria Salazar

Network Operations Manager

NetCan Technologies S.L.

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2016-09-20 18:19 GMT+01:00 Dave Thomas :

> This is so sad. Grant was a great guy. I enjoyed the many talks we've had.
>
> RIP my friend, you'll surely be missed by many.
> *Dave Thomas* | Director of Client Relations | visp.net
> -
>
>
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> 
> WISP Billing and Automation- Streamline, Take Control, and Grow
> On 9/20/2016 9:09 AM, Trina Coffey, Director of Operations wrote:
>
> Hello
>
>
>
> WISPA is saddened to learn of the passing on September 19, 2016 of
> longtime WISPA member and good friend Grant Spradling. Grant was involved
> in an accident a few days ago and succumbed to his injuries. Our hearts and
> prayers go out to Jennifer and the rest of the Spradling family.  If you
> would like to help the family, a Go Fund Me page has been set up.
> https://www.gofundme.com/2pr6z5sk?ssid=743233687=1
>
>
>
> The world has lost a little of its sparkle with the passing of Grant, we
> will miss him.
>
>
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> Trina Coffey
>
> Director of Operations
>
> WISPA
>
> 260-622-5775 direct
>
> 866-317-2851 ext. 102 (US only)
>
> 530-227-6696 cell
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Re: [WISPA] A sad day for All

[Dave Thomas]

This is so sad. Grant was a great guy. I enjoyed the many talks we've had.

RIP my friend, you'll surely be missed by many.

*Dave Thomas* | Director of Client Relations | visp.net
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On 9/20/2016 9:09 AM, Trina Coffey, Director of Operations wrote:


Hello

WISPA is saddened to learn of the passing on September 19, 2016 of 
longtime WISPA member and good friend Grant Spradling. Grant was 
involved in an accident a few days ago and succumbed to his injuries. 
Our hearts and prayers go out to Jennifer and the rest of the 
Spradling family.  If you would like to help the family, a Go Fund Me 
page has been set up. 
https://www.gofundme.com/2pr6z5sk?ssid=743233687=1


The world has lost a little of its sparkle with the passing of Grant, 
we will miss him.


Respectfully,

Trina Coffey

Director of Operations

WISPA

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866-317-2851 ext. 102 (US only)

530-227-6696 cell

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Re: [WISPA] A sad day for All

[Gino Villarini]

Shocked… Rip

From: > on behalf 
of "Trina Coffey, Director of Operations" 
>



Gino Villarini


President
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Reply-To: WISPA General List >
Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 12:09 PM
To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
>
Cc: 'WISPA Board Members List' >, 
'WISPA General List' >
Subject: [WISPA] A sad day for All

Hello

WISPA is saddened to learn of the passing on September 19, 2016 of longtime 
WISPA member and good friend Grant Spradling. Grant was involved in an accident 
a few days ago and succumbed to his injuries. Our hearts and prayers go out to 
Jennifer and the rest of the Spradling family.  If you would like to help the 
family, a Go Fund Me page has been set up.  
https://www.gofundme.com/2pr6z5sk?ssid=743233687=1

The world has lost a little of its sparkle with the passing of Grant, we will 
miss him.


Respectfully,

Trina Coffey
Director of Operations
WISPA
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866-317-2851 ext. 102 (US only)
530-227-6696 cell
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Re: [WISPA] A sad day for All

[Josh Luthman]

What awful news =(


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On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

> I am so sad to hear about Grants passing.  I have been friends with Grant
> for years as we are a Platypus user and Grant was the Platypus evangelist.
>  What a great guy.  He will be greatly missed.
>
>
>
> *Steve Barnes*
>
> Wireless Operations Manager
>
> *New Lisbon Broadband*
>
> *NLBC.COM *
>
> *PCSWIN.COM *
>
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Trina Coffey, Director of Operations
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2016 12:10 PM
> *To:* memb...@wispa.org
> *Cc:* 'WISPA Board Members List' ; 'WISPA General List' <
> wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* [WISPA] A sad day for All
>
>
>
> Hello
>
>
>
> WISPA is saddened to learn of the passing on September 19, 2016 of
> longtime WISPA member and good friend Grant Spradling. Grant was involved
> in an accident a few days ago and succumbed to his injuries. Our hearts and
> prayers go out to Jennifer and the rest of the Spradling family.  If you
> would like to help the family, a Go Fund Me page has been set up.
> https://www.gofundme.com/2pr6z5sk?ssid=743233687=1
>
>
>
> The world has lost a little of its sparkle with the passing of Grant, we
> will miss him.
>
>
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> Trina Coffey
>
> Director of Operations
>
> WISPA
>
> 260-622-5775 direct
>
> 866-317-2851 ext. 102 (US only)
>
> 530-227-6696 cell
>
> www.wispa.org
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] A sad day for All

[Steve Barnes]

I am so sad to hear about Grants passing.  I have been friends with Grant for 
years as we are a Platypus user and Grant was the Platypus evangelist.   What a 
great guy.  He will be greatly missed.

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
New Lisbon Broadband
NLBC.COM
PCSWIN.COM
765-584-2288 ext:1101

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Trina Coffey, Director of Operations
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 12:10 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org
Cc: 'WISPA Board Members List' ; 'WISPA General List' 

Subject: [WISPA] A sad day for All

Hello

WISPA is saddened to learn of the passing on September 19, 2016 of longtime 
WISPA member and good friend Grant Spradling. Grant was involved in an accident 
a few days ago and succumbed to his injuries. Our hearts and prayers go out to 
Jennifer and the rest of the Spradling family.  If you would like to help the 
family, a Go Fund Me page has been set up.  
https://www.gofundme.com/2pr6z5sk?ssid=743233687=1

The world has lost a little of its sparkle with the passing of Grant, we will 
miss him.


Respectfully,

Trina Coffey
Director of Operations
WISPA
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866-317-2851 ext. 102 (US only)
530-227-6696 cell
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Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

[Sean Heskett]

good to hear you had success!

i'd prefer to do fiber as well but until all vendors support it the need
for using copper exists.

-sean


On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Chadwick Wachs 
wrote:

> Wanted to circle back on this with results.  Bought a 100' section of
> metal lined LiquidTight at Home Depot (3/4" since I only needed 2 cables).
> The 100' section was exactly the right length to get from the antennas all
> the way to my cabinet in the machine room so now the cables are protected
> in the cable trays down below as well.
>
> Used hose clamps to attach the conduit to the tower every ~6 feet. Since I
> had to make 2 90 degree turns on the way down, the flexible conduit was
> great.  I did pull my two Ethernet wires through the conduit while it was
> on the ground - figured that would be much easier - and it was. Cable is
> Ubiquiti Carrier Shielded (the double shielded version).  I also added the
> ends with the grounding cable and grounded both the top and the bottom of
> the Ethernet to a good ground.
>
> Been up for about two weeks now with no Ethernet issues at all. Did not
> put Ferrites on these two cables like all the rest of mine have.  I still
> get an occasional Ethernet packet drop or error on the Ferrited cables. So
> far, solid on the two cables in the LiquidTight.
>
> Yes, fiber is still a better long term solution but this was fairly
> inexpensive and quick and is working great.  Thanks for the suggestion.
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> my bad, i was answering late in the evening, i was thinking PVC when you
>> said EMT.  EMT will work too since it's metal but it's hard to work with on
>> a tower.  the 3/4" liquidtight that you linked to will fit 3 cables.  we
>> usually run 1 1/2" or 1 3/4" (i can't remember which at the moment) and you
>> can fit 13 cables in it.  we run it up to a box on the tower and then use
>> 3/4" to run from the box to the individual APs or backhauls.  we run the
>> conduit first and then drop the ethernet cables down from the top.
>>
>> -sean
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Chadwick Wachs 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting... Certainly easier to run.  Because I have to make two 90
>>> degree turns (damn "H" shaped tower), I think I'll pull my Ethernet through
>>> it on the ground and then run it up the tower with cable in it.  I'm
>>> guessing that cutting it and putting 90 degree elbows (with cable pull
>>> windows) on it is a bad idea from an RF standpoint?
>>>
>>> My local HD has this in stock:
>>>
>>> http://www.homedepot.com/p/AFC-Cable-Systems-3-4-in-x-100-ft
>>> -Liquidtight-Flexible-Steel-Conduit-6203-30-00/202262413
>>>
>>> That looks what you describe.
>>>
>>> I have to ask - from a physics(?) standpoint, what keeps RF out of the
>>> Liquidtight but not EMT?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>>
 If you do conduit you need to use liquidtight with the metal inside.
 EMT will do nothing to stop the RF from bleeding.

 We've done it on several towers with great success.

 -Sean

 On Thursday, September 8, 2016, Chadwick Wachs 
 wrote:

> With two new FM stations moving onto the tower I am on, I need to
> solve the FM noise problem once and for all.  I've been using Ferrites on
> each end of the Ethernet cable and its been pretty successful but I need 
> to
> add a couple more antennas so I am considering conduit.
>
> This is not my area of expertise but from what I read, it sounds like
> running conduit up the tower (only 75' for my antennas) is the best long
> term solution?  My plan was to buy some 3/4" EMT in 10' sections and clamp
> it to the tower from bottom to top and run my shielded cables inside of
> that.
>
> Is that the route to go?  I am guessing I want to keep my service
> loops at the top of the conduit pretty short or I negate what I just did. 
> I
> do have longer loops at the bottom in the building so my Ethernet cables
> are longer than my antenna ground wires. I'm planning on not putting
> Ferrites on the cables that are in the conduit.
>
> Tower has 5 FM stations on it, a 900mhz paging company and two UHF DTV
> stations - along with some other 5 Ghz stuff.  The FM stations are "lower"
> power (250 - 400 watts) but it sounds like those are the culprit for
> Ethernet issues (other than AM which is no where near this tower).
>
> Thanks for the advice.
>

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Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

[Chadwick Wachs]

Wanted to circle back on this with results.  Bought a 100' section of metal
lined LiquidTight at Home Depot (3/4" since I only needed 2 cables).  The
100' section was exactly the right length to get from the antennas all the
way to my cabinet in the machine room so now the cables are protected in
the cable trays down below as well.

Used hose clamps to attach the conduit to the tower every ~6 feet. Since I
had to make 2 90 degree turns on the way down, the flexible conduit was
great.  I did pull my two Ethernet wires through the conduit while it was
on the ground - figured that would be much easier - and it was. Cable is
Ubiquiti Carrier Shielded (the double shielded version).  I also added the
ends with the grounding cable and grounded both the top and the bottom of
the Ethernet to a good ground.

Been up for about two weeks now with no Ethernet issues at all. Did not put
Ferrites on these two cables like all the rest of mine have.  I still get
an occasional Ethernet packet drop or error on the Ferrited cables. So far,
solid on the two cables in the LiquidTight.

Yes, fiber is still a better long term solution but this was fairly
inexpensive and quick and is working great.  Thanks for the suggestion.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

> my bad, i was answering late in the evening, i was thinking PVC when you
> said EMT.  EMT will work too since it's metal but it's hard to work with on
> a tower.  the 3/4" liquidtight that you linked to will fit 3 cables.  we
> usually run 1 1/2" or 1 3/4" (i can't remember which at the moment) and you
> can fit 13 cables in it.  we run it up to a box on the tower and then use
> 3/4" to run from the box to the individual APs or backhauls.  we run the
> conduit first and then drop the ethernet cables down from the top.
>
> -sean
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Chadwick Wachs 
> wrote:
>
>> Interesting... Certainly easier to run.  Because I have to make two 90
>> degree turns (damn "H" shaped tower), I think I'll pull my Ethernet through
>> it on the ground and then run it up the tower with cable in it.  I'm
>> guessing that cutting it and putting 90 degree elbows (with cable pull
>> windows) on it is a bad idea from an RF standpoint?
>>
>> My local HD has this in stock:
>>
>> http://www.homedepot.com/p/AFC-Cable-Systems-3-4-in-x-100-
>> ft-Liquidtight-Flexible-Steel-Conduit-6203-30-00/202262413
>>
>> That looks what you describe.
>>
>> I have to ask - from a physics(?) standpoint, what keeps RF out of the
>> Liquidtight but not EMT?
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>
>>> If you do conduit you need to use liquidtight with the metal inside.
>>> EMT will do nothing to stop the RF from bleeding.
>>>
>>> We've done it on several towers with great success.
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 8, 2016, Chadwick Wachs 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 With two new FM stations moving onto the tower I am on, I need to solve
 the FM noise problem once and for all.  I've been using Ferrites on each
 end of the Ethernet cable and its been pretty successful but I need to add
 a couple more antennas so I am considering conduit.

 This is not my area of expertise but from what I read, it sounds like
 running conduit up the tower (only 75' for my antennas) is the best long
 term solution?  My plan was to buy some 3/4" EMT in 10' sections and clamp
 it to the tower from bottom to top and run my shielded cables inside of
 that.

 Is that the route to go?  I am guessing I want to keep my service loops
 at the top of the conduit pretty short or I negate what I just did. I do
 have longer loops at the bottom in the building so my Ethernet cables are
 longer than my antenna ground wires. I'm planning on not putting Ferrites
 on the cables that are in the conduit.

 Tower has 5 FM stations on it, a 900mhz paging company and two UHF DTV
 stations - along with some other 5 Ghz stuff.  The FM stations are "lower"
 power (250 - 400 watts) but it sounds like those are the culprit for
 Ethernet issues (other than AM which is no where near this tower).

 Thanks for the advice.

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[WISPA] A sad day for All

[Trina Coffey, Director of Operations]

Hello

 

WISPA is saddened to learn of the passing on September 19, 2016 of longtime
WISPA member and good friend Grant Spradling. Grant was involved in an
accident a few days ago and succumbed to his injuries. Our hearts and
prayers go out to Jennifer and the rest of the Spradling family.  If you
would like to help the family, a Go Fund Me page has been set up.
https://www.gofundme.com/2pr6z5sk?ssid=743233687
 =1

 

The world has lost a little of its sparkle with the passing of Grant, we
will miss him.  

 

 

Respectfully,

 

Trina Coffey

Director of Operations

WISPA

260-622-5775 direct

866-317-2851 ext. 102 (US only)

530-227-6696 cell

www.wispa.org   

 

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MPLS with ECMP?

[Nicholas Eastman]

Ok, so if I set up a couple of TE tunnels, do I have to statically set 
up routing across them, or is there a way to have the routers just pick 
it up and run with the new interfaces dynamically?


Nicholas Eastman
Infrastructure Technician
Royell Communications, Inc.
1-877-400-9319
Fax: 1-217-965-3951
nic.east...@royell.org

On 9/12/2016 3:38 PM, Justin Miller wrote:
MPLS does not use the underlying ecmp from routes/OSPF at all. MPLS TE 
is your best bet.


*Justin Miller*

 VA SkyWire, LLC
 3114 W Marshall St, Ste A
 Richmond, VA 23230
 Office: (804) 521-4212
 Desk: (804) 591-0500 ext 101
 Fax: (804) 591-1559
jus...@vaskywire.com 

On Sep 12, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Nicholas Eastman > wrote:


We have a two POPs that are connected with both a 1G fiber transport and
two 236Mbps wireless backhauls. We are using ECMP in OSPF to achieve a
sort of bandwidth sharing with them, but would like to enable MPLS
across our network. With this being said, we would like to be able to
keep some semblance of ECMP/TE on the network to be able to utilize all
three links at the same time. Has anyone tried or had luck with this?
I've read a few posts on the forum saying that MPLS-TE should be able to
do this, but I have yet been able to reproduce this in a test lab.


--
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Infrastructure Technician
Royell Communications, Inc.
1-877-400-9319
Fax: 1-217-965-3951
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