Re: [WISPA] 3650 FSS negotiations for protected areas...?
This site has the basic locations and shows their radius coverage. http://zing.naviciti.com/ You can also contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the contact info on any of those sites. David On 7/28/08 10:21 AM, Doug Radcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how do we find the contact information on the international bureau's filings? - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 FSS negotiations for protected areas...? You can't use ULS for earth stations. Earth stations are covered by the international bureau as opposed to the wireless bureau. -Matt On Jul 27, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Doug Ratcliffe wrote: I've read your blogs and have been keeping up with them. What I can't seem to find is the ULS registrations for the actual earth satellite stations. It seems like most other ULS entires, they have a contact address and a person's name. I did a Geosearch of Orange County, FL (the Sprint Communications Orlando, FL county) using Frequencies 3500 to 5000mhz (All Service Types), and found nothing but a cancelled point to point license for ATT. A quick search of the FCC site for Sprint's filing # (SESRWL2000101902129) finds nothing but the mention in the FCC 3650 FSS list. If I were to call the FCC with that number would they be able to provide me contact information for that company that pertains to the FSS department? I wonder if creating a website that documented all the FSS contact info, combined with map distance, automatic EIRP / bearing calculations (i.e. the stuff the FCC talks about in their 3650 document), would be beneficial to the other WISPs who want to serve the 125 million people who live INSIDE of these zones. It seems silly, like a 5-10W transmitter pointing the opposite direction would even make a difference - you would think the FCC would have integrated distance AND antenna direction when it comes to base station registration... Florida is flat. At 105km, I would need to have at least a 450 foot tower or higher on both ends to even send a signal that far. 45 miles ended up needing over 400ft on both ends. It's not like I want to broadcast 3650 from the top of a 10,000 foot mountain peak. - Original Message - From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 FSS negotiations for protected areas...? Doug Ratcliffe wrote: Has anyone gotten any headway on company negotiations in protected zones? Almost all of the zones near me (105km is the closest to the SW, 146.7km next closest to the South) and I have no desire to point coverage in that direction - mainly north and northwest. But according to the FCC, I'd be dealing with Sprint, and Harris Corporation - these people don't even have phone numbers on their web sites for any departments that would look like they would even know what I was talking about. I have done several blog posts on this subject: http://charlesnw.blogspot.com/2008/07/satellite-related-brain-dump.html http://charlesnw.blogspot.com/2008/07/80211y-3650-mhz-in-southern-californi a.html http://charlesnw.blogspot.com/2008/07/3650mhz-southern-california-malibu.ht ml http://charlesnw.blogspot.com/2008/07/3650mhz-southern-california-malibu_05 .html Hope that helps. And even if I found a human being, it seems unlikely I'd talk to anyone with the power to make a real decision. Indeed. Is this something best sent from a telecommunications attorney to their FCC attorney of record? Is the consent more like a contract? Would they be able to charge me for consent (like a spectrum lease)? Is this like asking for keys to the space shuttle? Excellent questions. Hopefully someone here can help. -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Rapid Link, and is believed to be clean.
Re: [WISPA] 3650 FSS negotiations for protected areas...?
I think it was just a matter of getting around to it. I am ccing him if you would like to collaborate with him on getting the info to the community. David On 7/28/08 12:01 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Peterson wrote: This site has the basic locations and shows their radius coverage. http://zing.naviciti.com/ You can also contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the contact info on any of those sites. If they have the info, why don't they put it on the map? Isn't that kind of the point of the mash up? :) I was quite frustrated with the lack of information on that map (I found it some time ago). I have also put up a mash up of the stations in SoCal. http://tinyurl.com/5hjky4 What info I have (in my blog posts) is linked to from the map. If anyone has info on ground stations (both for ones I have and ones I don't) I'll happily expand my mash up, and link back to the page with info (and I'll host the info page if you like as well). David WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Sageni web site is live
I keep hearing Monte Python in my head, which would make you the Sage that says Ni. David Peterson WirelessGuys (sorry had to let my geek flag fly) On 8/1/08 10:17 AM, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Sageni is a word creation combining Sage and Genie...most of all it was an open 6 letter domain name! On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 6:01 PM, John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice... So Sageni = Sage Insider? On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to drop you folks a note to let you know www.sageni.com is live, achieving my goal of going live on August 1. Still lots of room to build on, but I hope you think it is a good start. Next up, for me to join WISPA under my new company name. Cheers all, -- Patrick Leary Sageni - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes
We do have dual radio mesh with 400mW and 100mW output power. You can find more information at http://www.defactowireless.com/Brochures/NewMesh.pdf I can have someone contact you offlist about the new products. David Peterson AirMatrix On 5/2/06 5:30 PM, John Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We kind of got sucked into this. We have been working with Cisco as a muni provider and were offered the Mesh training, which was good. A City IT manager found out about the mesh and wanted it-before it was even available-which wasn't so good. We could either install it and make some money or walk away and not make money. Based on the data sheets, I had high hopes, now that reality has set in, I am disappointed. I understand why Ciscos pricing is higher-they bought Airespace and need to get their investment back. That doesn't justify the fact the their gear is 3-4 x what the competitors is. We are dealing with cities, and most of them have a Catalyst 6500 in the back room. They tend to standardize on Cisco and are willing to pay the price. Dos airmatrix have a dual radio mesh box? I just looked and the mesh boxes seem to be single radio 2.4 only. John Jeffrey Thomas wrote: Yay branding. Actually my commpany is certified on cisco mesh. Which doesn't mean I would sell it or recommend it. I actually tell most customers to consider lower Cost options because there are so few real differentiators in mesh products. 1. Its far too overpriced ( retail of 4k per unit makes a 50 unit mesh a 240k project when compared to say, airmatrix which would run the operator Close to 50k. So is one product is 4x greater cost than the other, then There is something really screwy going on. -jb On 4/25/06 7:10 AM, John J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cities don't want home brew, they generally want something that says Cisco on the side. Every city that we ahve recently talked to either has a Cisco Catalyst 6500 at teh core or has written a RFP to buy a switch that directly indicates a Catalyst 6500. Note, I am talking about cities with populationd of 25,000 and larger, I can't speak for the smaller towns. John -Original Message- From: chris cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:00 AM To: ''WISPA General List'' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes Why not just buy the cards, boards, antennas and make a few yourself? c -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes Then there are companies like airmatrix that charge less than 1k per node. The key with mesh is density, and many mesh startup's fail because they Underbuild their networks. - Jeff On 4/24/06 7:53 AM, John J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what equipment they are using, but Cisco AP1500's (mesh) are abnout $3700 each and Cisco recommends 18-20 per square mile. Thats $74,000 for the boxes plus antennas, mounts, POE and install. John -Original Message- From: chris cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 07:26 AM To: ''WISPA General List'' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes $173K per mile build out cost? Somebody just bought a new boat.. c -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060424/ap_on_hi_te/muni_wi_fi_hiccups I am not a fan of muni wireless. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/312 - Release Date: 4/14/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/312 - Release Date: 4/14/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need to hire some help ASAP*
Title: Re: [WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need to hire some help ASAP* Check with http://www.junctionnetworks.com/index.php I have used them in the past. David On 6/26/06 7:40 AM, JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bueller ? Bueller ? - Anyone ? :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need to hire some help ASAP* Importance: High Need to hire someone 1st in the AM to help configure asterisk and 2 7940G phones. The box is already configured, on a public IP with passwords set, phones are sitting right next to the box connected to the network. This shouldn't take long and I have no problem paying. Please respond offlist with contact information and pricing. Regards, JohnnyO -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need to hire somehelp ASAP*
Title: Re: [WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need to hire somehelp ASAP* Not sure. I havent used them in a while. David On 6/26/06 8:04 AM, JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David - thanks for the lead - I have a 4port FXO card and am terminating into the PTSN for local dialing and incoming. Will they help with only the configuration or do I have to purchase their services ? JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Peterson Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need to hire somehelp ASAP* Check with http://www.junctionnetworks.com/index.php I have used them in the past. David On 6/26/06 7:40 AM, JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bueller ? Bueller ? - Anyone ? :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need to hire some help ASAP* Importance: High Need to hire someone 1st in the AM to help configure asterisk and 2 7940G phones. The box is already configured, on a public IP with passwords set, phones are sitting right next to the box connected to the network. This shouldn't take long and I have no problem paying. Please respond offlist with contact information and pricing. Regards, JohnnyO -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Mikrotik
Is there a Mikrotik guru who would be willing to assist me with a vlan issue? Please hit me offlist. David -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Was: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list : Now: WOW Way to put foot into mouth!
I have lurked for some time now, but feel the need to address an alarming trend on this list. There are Industry Leaders putting facts out there with out fully examining the truth. Before you flame me, please read all that is below my signature as proof to my comments... Steve, dude... I figure these are advertisers to your blog/newsletter and as such should have come with a disclaimer. Your claim of Please note that I'm deliberately not listing vendors who only sell sub-systems such as antennas, radio cards, etc. - only full-blown radio systems suitable for outdoor use. An additional caveat is that I won't knowingly list systems that are not FCC certified. is patently untrue as you will notice below. I have added my comments on the vendors I know personally. You have placed yourself as an industry leader for some time now. I would have expected that you would not adopt a don't ask, don't tell mentality to your claim of knowing something. I only say this as it only took some personal knowledge of the industry and one hour of my time to discover the flaws in your claim. Patrick, as an Industry Leader, I would expect that you would not just accept anything as fact without researching the claim first. There are a lot of people who accept what you say as fact. While this information is not 100% accurate as the FCC has a lot of work submitted to them every day. I am merely suggesting that the statements of the Industry Leaders should be viewed with the traditional skepticism that should accompany statements from a vendor/vendor-subsidized source. Don't forget to read below the __ line. I have pasted my search results from www.fcc.gov site. David Peterson Formerly of Ultramesh Inc. (a repackaging manufacturer of LocustWorld mesh software + Senao + PCEngines motherboards) - Read below : all information is freely available at www.fcc.gov in the OET search page. - Aruba Networks There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: Aruba Networks Avantry There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: Avantry Cambridge Broadband There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: Cambridge Broadband CarrierComm There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: CarrierComm CoCo Communications (WISP cum manufacturer) There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: CoCo Communications Deliberant I only list them as they only have recently started to reclassify RTL-8186 wireless OEM modules. They have sold many radios illegal as this list has classified them. If you look at their recent certs you will find that they do not manufacture radios but have re-certified them in order to please forums such as this. They have been a homebrewer turned integrator/assembly house since they started. See if their certs match their output power: From fcc.gov - FCC IDENTIFIER: UB8-DLB7000 Name of Grantee: Deliberant LLC Equipment Class: Part 15 Spread Spectrum Transmitter Notes: DIGITAL TRANSMISSION SYSTEM Grant Notes FCC Rule Parts Frequency Range (MHZ) Output Watts Frequency Tolerance Emission Designator 20 28 36 15C 2412.0 - 2462.0 0.09441 20 28 36 15C 5745.0 - 5825.0 0.06109 --- From Deliberant --- DLB7023 802.11a + g 23dBi Integrated Dual Radio Sku: DLB7023 The DLB7023 802.11a + g 23dBi Dual Radio features an 802.11a interface with 23dBi antenna as well as an 802.11b/g interface that operate simultaneously. This hardware configuration, along with extremely flexible software configuration options, make the DLB7023 one of the most versatile platforms on the market today. Each interface can be an AP, Client, or WDS bridge, which results in the perfect outdoor radio for remote repeaters, apartment communities, and dual-band APs and CPEs. -- (Could be wrong, let me know if 0.06109 EIRP = the above specs...) EION Wireless There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: EION Wireless GIL Technology There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: GIL Technology Qorvus (they only repackage LocustWorld based software with CM9/Ubiquiti and 200mW Senao cards) There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: Qorvus --- On 2/15/07 10:17 PM, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, here are a few off my head that are not there...Freewave, MDS, Lightpointe is with an e on the end, Wave Wireless (formerly Waverider, etc.), ZTE (ZiMAX), Huwaie, Acton Wireless Broadband (AWB), is Cirronet still around?, Qualcomm (with their MediaFLO), Arraycom, Terabeam actually dba's as Proxim. P.S. - thanks
Re: Updated : Re: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list : Now: WOW Way to put foot into mouth!
Sorry for the old reference, Ultramesh is no long with us. I only consult at this time. I noticed some companies on your list that are not selling certified gear, and as such should not be posted publicly as doing so by an industry journalist. This would cause some people to purchase products that they themselves would not have done so without your assertion. However, I will follow up my statement with additional research. Aruba Networks I would have to say I am likely wrong here, and if they are on this list please forward your FCC ID if you like. Their product page shows equipment with the following Electromagnetic Compliance Although their url to country certification list shows a 404 page. # FCC Part 15 Class B # FCC Part 15 Class C 15.207/15.247 # FCC Part 15 Class E 15.407 # ICES-003 Class A # RSS 210 (CAN) # VCCI Class A # EN 61000-3, EN 61000-4-2, EN 61000-4-3, EN 61000-4-4 # EN 61000-4-5, EN 61000-4-6, EN 61000-4-8, EN 61000-4-11 # 73/23/EEC and 89/336/EEC # EN 55022, EN55024 (89/336/EEC) # ETS 300 328 (89/336/EEC), ETS 301 489 (89/336/EEC) # ETS 301 893 # AS/NZS 3548 Class A # RFS 29 (NZ) Avantry I find them at Wincomm, but not at the FCC site under Avantry or Witcom. However, given the style and cost of their equipment, its unlikely that they have spent the kind of RD money they appear to have spent without getting certifed. Again if anyone from Avantry/Witcom or even Wincomm wants to forward the ID# to this list please feel free. Cambridge Broadband They appear to sell outside the US and operate in 3.5, 10.5 and 26 Ghz FDD equipment. As such they are unlikely FCC certified, but are likely certified in many other countries. Looks pricey. http://www.cambridgebroadband.com/contact.htm CarrierComm Appears to be an ASIC and OEM manufacturer for the cellular industry. That one is out of my knowledge field, but my first thought would be that they are compliant with the regulations for SDR. CoCo Communications They seem to have added a protocol to existing linux based equipment. Question for the industry: If you change the firmware on existing access points and rebrand them to your company, are you required to recertify the equipment? Deliberant Nothing further on them. EION Wireless Appears to have bought the Wi-Lan product line. Their other equipment, however doesn't show up under any FCC search. If anyone from EION wants to chime in, please do. GIL Technology Seems to be the Taiwanese manufacturer for the old Wi-Lan product line. http://www.gil.com.tw/eng/product/wireless/libra5800.htm Qorvus Nothing further on them. No FCC ID's for their WRAP board + linux offering (based on LocustWorld) + CM9/Senao 2511MP based products. David Peterson No longer with the now defunct Ultramesh Inc. On 2/16/07 7:35 AM, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, I tried to search Ultramesh and received no results. The first one you listed below had several filings, Aruba Wireless Networks. This is in contradiction to your assertions below. Avantry and others produced no results but may have filed under a different name? David, do you have certified gear listed under a different name? People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. I used this URL for searching: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm Scriv David Peterson wrote: I have lurked for some time now, but feel the need to address an alarming trend on this list. There are Industry Leaders putting facts out there with out fully examining the truth. Before you flame me, please read all that is below my signature as proof to my comments... Steve, dude... I figure these are advertisers to your blog/newsletter and as such should have come with a disclaimer. Your claim of Please note that I'm deliberately not listing vendors who only sell sub-systems such as antennas, radio cards, etc. - only full-blown radio systems suitable for outdoor use. An additional caveat is that I won't knowingly list systems that are not FCC certified. is patently untrue as you will notice below. I have added my comments on the vendors I know personally. You have placed yourself as an industry leader for some time now. I would have expected that you would not adopt a don't ask, don't tell mentality to your claim of knowing something. I only say this as it only took some personal knowledge of the industry and one hour of my time to discover the flaws in your claim. Patrick, as an Industry Leader, I would expect that you would not just accept anything as fact without researching the claim first. There are a lot of people who accept what you say as fact. While this information is not 100% accurate as the FCC has a lot of work submitted to them every day. I am merely suggesting that the statements of the Industry Leaders should be viewed with the traditional skepticism that should accompany statements from a vendor/vendor-subsidized source. Don't forget to read below
[WISPA] FYI
Just read a scary article that all WISP's and free networks alike should read. RIAA Fights Back, Threatens Open Wi-Fi If the judge rules that we're each legally responsible for all of the traffic that comes through our ISP account, open, unprotected Wi-Fi hotspots would become a serious legal liability, the hundreds of thousands (millions?) of people who depend on their neighbors for Wi-Fi will be out of luck, while altruistic (or ignorant) folks who leave their wireless networks open could find themselves embroiled in an RIAA lawsuits even if they've never shared a single song in their lives. http://blog.wired.com/music/2007/02/riaa_contests_d.html David Peterson Nexus Wireless USA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] clock
In case everyone missed it, Congress in it's mighty wisdom changed the dates of Daylight savings time. It was normally due two weeks from now. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com to update your old skool windoze boxes. Most OS's just use NTP to keep up to date. Check with your OS update provider for further information. David Peterson Nexus Wireless USA On 3/14/07 7:45 PM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah its really wierd, I changed my clock 4 times today to reflect the right time, and it keeps jumping back to the old time. I just unchecked the adjust for daylight savings button, to see if it helps. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: [WISPA] clock Tom, I think your PC or laptop clock is off. Did you ever reset or patch for Daylight Savings time this past Sunday AM? BTW, did anyone notice that recurring outlook appointments were messed up with the new DST? - Peter -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] clock
As most of you know, Congress in a misguided effort to save us energy money, moved daylight savings time back 3 weeks from its original date. Unfortunately for windoze, an update needs to be downloaded. You can get it at http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com. The reason some people have the download and some don't is that you have to turn on manually automatic updates. If you don't have that turned on, any updates, including security ones, need to be manually downloaded from the windows update site. David Peterson Nexus Wireless USA On 3/16/07 11:07 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine has been right all along. Never changed a thing either. I'm guessing there's an update that you guys don't have? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] clock Thats funny, didn't notice my clock off till just now. Is there something wrong with xp's clock? Tom DeReggi wrote: Yeah its really wierd, I changed my clock 4 times today to reflect the right time, and it keeps jumping back to the old time. I just unchecked the adjust for daylight savings button, to see if it helps. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: [WISPA] clock Tom, I think your PC or laptop clock is off. Did you ever reset or patch for Daylight Savings time this past Sunday AM? BTW, did anyone notice that recurring outlook appointments were messed up with the new DST? - Peter -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Linux mail solution
If you are not a Linux guru, this script set is very easy to follow: www.qmailrocks.org It gets you Qmail, virtual email domains, squirrel mail, domain email controls, spamassassin, clamav, etc, etc. David On 1/24/08 11:00 PM, Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Postfix Cyrus IMAP or Courier IMAP amavisd with ClamAV and SpamAssassin The only webmail I have messed with is Squirrelmail and while it works the stable version is non-javascript by design so it is very plain Jane. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Mike Hammett wrote: I currently just use a domain on my InterWorx hosting controller for all of my email. I'm looking to hire Jeremy Davis to setup Freeside for me and I'd like to setup a new mail system integrated with Freeside. He'd integrate Freeside into it and I'm awaiting server recommendations from him, but I come here looking for recommendations for a mail system to include things like SMTP, IMAP, SSL, webmail, antivirus, antispam, etc. I currently use QMail and it would be nice if I could migrate old mail and mail accounts over. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks ToRollout New WiMAX Service)
Ping me offlist for any pricing on Airspan. David Peterson WirelessGuys Inc. 'On 1/25/08 12:10 PM, Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry guys. Price was not discussed. A quote will be delivered to me shortly. I will post cost as soon as I see it. I'm hoping early next week. I do have a sales order for one Redline RedMAX base station with outdoor CPE if anyone is interested...offlist. FYI...I'm not in any shape or form affiliated with Airspan or Redline. We are an Internet Service Provider serving the greater Midwestern Kansas. Eric Muehleisen Sr. Internet Technology Specialist Nex-Tech - Lightning Jack 785.625.7070 office 785.621.2980 voip George Rogato wrote: Only thing I want to know is the price range, offlist if you must. But I'm sure everyone is curious. Thanks George Eric Muehleisen wrote: We just completed a demo of Airspan's Hipermax in Emporia, Kansas yesterday. Stutler Technologies hosted us as they are one of the largest systems integrators for Airspan. I must say that I was very impressed with it's NLOS performance. We tested both the indoor self install and the outdoor ST Pro CPE. We achieve 6mb/s indoor at 2 miles NLOS. The base station was a 1 sector install using diversity at approximately. 50ft up on tower using 120 degree sectors. Email me offlist if you'd like more info and whitepapers from our testing. -Eric jeffrey thomas wrote: All, Aperto actually has a really killer product launching next month in 3.65. I would state its a lot more stable than Redline's product due to their secret sauce. Its the same platform that is winning carriers overseas. Airspan- yes absolutely can give you up to 10w EIRP legal- so your coverage area for fixed is literally insane- 15km NLOS @ bpsk is possible, according to their calculator tool. outdoor cpe is around 600 or so in single piece qty- talk to wireless guys to buy or other resellers. BTW, I believe they just joined Wispa as a vendor member, for those that sent me private mails asking them to join. - Jeff On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:19:44 -0600, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So then Airspan can go further (more applicable to rural markets)? If Redline's 15 mbit throughput per 7.5 MHz is correct and is similar to other products in this band, a 10 MHz product would have 20 mbit throughput. I'm working on an Enterprise level service, so it seems like Redline's AN-80 is the only high quality product that actually has throughput capabilities. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks ToRollout New WiMAX Service) IIRC, 3.65 ghz rules allow 1 watt EIRP per each mhz of bandwidth, thus a 7.5 Mhz Radio would be allowed 7.5 Watts of EIRP, 10 Mhz radio would be 10 Watts EIRP ... Redline cert does not reflect this... don't know why Airspan certification does get really close to it Mind me but 10 Watts EIRP if allot (about 40 db) Vendors should seek maybe 15 or 20 mhz channels Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks To Rollout New WiMAX Service) As much as I like seeing One Ring's name over and over I figured I switch the subject line to match the tread. Mike's comments below are accurate with regard to Redline's equipment. However, it should be noted that Redline was not able to get their gear certified at the full power output allowable for 3.65. It is for this reason that Redline does not believe its gear will work in rural markets. Remember, 3.65 was originally supposed to be for the rural market, which means either Redline went wrong somewhere or the FCC did. Additionally, Redline has not sought to get its indoor CPE certified for 3.65 because of the power issue. That means urban operators are not able to offer self-install options that would greater speed up the rollout process. I believe WISPA should be working with the 3.65 radio vendors and the FCC to get things fixed such that there will be a greater opportunity for operators to provide services using 3.65. -Matt Mike Hammett wrote: The guys at Redline said their equipment is power limited due to FCC limitations. My point of view is based on Redline's statement of what their gear can do coupled with the documents filed with the FCC
Re: [WISPA] pcb
You can get them in 100 packs from Microcom. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] pcb Let me know when you order. They have a min order number. I got some a couple yrs ago and sold a bunch. I think you had to order 500-1000. Now I am a little low. I might take some off your hands if you don't want that many. Brian Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Who sells the plastic 3M PCB with adhesive backing? Like for mounting routerboards inside cases? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Small unmanaged switches
Garrettcom has a 4 port hardened switch designed for factory floors and I believe they have larger ones. They retail between $83 and $112 for the 12v version. Hit me offlist if you would like more information. David WirelessGuys Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Fiero Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 12:14 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small unmanaged switches I concur, the 5 port Netgear is a workhorse. We use them exclusively at all our AP's, hops and customer locations. Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small unmanaged switches On Fri, February 15, 2008 11:56 am, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: I'm looking to purchase some small unmanaged switches (5 ports) [ snip ] You may want the Netgear ProSafe FS105. http://www.netgear.com/Products/Switches/DesktopSwitches/FS105.aspx The current crop are basically as small as physically possible (or at least are the smallest five-port switches I've seen), and the metal case just looks and feels sturdy, as compared to the cheap plastic ones. (Here, things get a little tricky, as Netgear uses the same model number on a couple different switches; I don't have any experience with the silver-plastic FS105 switches. They're probably the same, internally, but I've also never ripped one open to see.) Netgear FS105s and the big brother FS108s run about 3/4 of our towers, and have for several years. I can't recall a single instance of a problem with a switch that was found to be a defect in the switch itself. Lightning making a switch go foom, sure, but that's not the switch's fault. :) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 900MHz Yagis
I have 50 13dB Yagi's in stock that I need to move for cost, free ground shipping to the US. Please hit me off list if you are interested. David Peterson WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65
Have them contact me offlist. We carry the top WiMax manufacturers in 3.65GHz. David Peterson WirelessGuys Inc. 805-578-8590 On 6/30/08 1:57 PM, Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone I know is looking for unlicensed wimax on 3.65 GHz. I told him I didn't know if that was available (but hadn't looked). Does anyone else have any comments or experience on this? -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65
If you can call the current Light-licensed scheme put in place by the FCC, then yes naturally you have to register your towers and equipment with the FCC. However, the procedure is not terribly difficult to navigate and the cost is not prohibitive. What I was referring to was the WiMax 3.65GHz vendors not the UNLICENSED portion of the post. David On 7/1/08 2:06 AM, Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, In your haste to sell equipment you may have failed to understand that the question was about availability of unlicensed equipmement. The correct answer is that there is NO UNLICENSED 3650 OPERATION. All 3650 operation requires an FCC license. jack David Peterson wrote: Have them contact me offlist. We carry the top WiMax manufacturers in 3.65GHz. David Peterson WirelessGuys Inc. 805-578-8590 On 6/30/08 1:57 PM, Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone I know is looking for unlicensed wimax on 3.65 GHz. I told him I didn't know if that was available (but hadn't looked). Does anyone else have any comments or experience on this? -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP
There are cheaper options than 10k per sector but you are correct that's about the going rate between 10 and 15k per sector. However, this equipment is not anywhere near the same as the tinker toys as Scriv puts it. This equipment will last you much longer than the commodity equipment. It's easily twice as spectrally efficient and allows for a much easier deployment. A number of WISPS are moving to this platform as they find that the higher end equipment is worth more on a buyout. Lets put it this way. If you have a network to sell, how much more do you think you will get if you have Cisco instead of Mikrotik? Nothing against them, but the quality of your infrastructure is heavily weighed during a buyout. If you don't agree, check the many spam's on this and other lists from the guys buying networks. Some won't even look at you if you don't have Canopy or better equipment. David Peterson WirelessGuys Inc. 805-578-8590 On 7/2/08 5:33 PM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $10k for a single AP is why. I can outfit two whole towers with MTI sector antennas for the price of 1 WiMAX radio. Gross throughput. My Mikrotik can do 35 megs of throughput vs. 20 (albeit a larger channel). I want to use WiMAX as it is more spectrally efficient (most important advantage in my eyes), but will not do so until vendors go after the masses and not early adopters. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP I hope all of you will read this post. I have spent a long time writing it and I think it is very important for us to all think about the issues involved. How about if we tie the 3.65 GHz band to one technology with our wallets instead of making Uncle Sam do it with regulation? We will see which platforms dominate over the next 5 years in wireless broadband. We are going to see some movement away from 802.11 based systems as a platform for delivery of outdoor broadband in all bands in my opinion. I think we will see a move toward licensed WiMax and LTE systems used predominantly for wireless broadband delivery as the next few years progress. I have little doubt that other platforms will be put to use but innovation will not occur from multiple platform distractions away from the goal of building efficient, cost effective and unified systems for outdoor wireless broadband. Do you think mixing several unrelated technologies into he same band is a good idea? I believe that we need to be using ONE platform in 3.65 and we need to all support it. Fragmentation of support, vendors, operators, etc. does not help our collective efforts. We need to decide on a platform and all of us need to use it if we are ever going to make headway as a group. The rest of the world is building WiMax in 3.4 thru 3.8 GHz. I just cannot see why we have to reinvent the wheel here. I assure you that if we all built on this platform that we could get the regulations changed to allow for WiMax use across the entire 50 MHz of this band. With GPS sync and 6 non-overlapping channels we could certainly avoid interference and deliver quality wireless broadband in 3.65 GHz. How does our industry standardizing on a platform like WiMax in 3.65 GHz stifle innovation? I think it does the opposite. I think it provides focus and clarity and economies of scale for a platform designed to provide outdoor wireless broadband. It is our best shot at building interconnected networks with scale and an exit strategy for operators, many having been running wireless broadband networks for over a decade. We are not getting any younger and someday we need to have something that someone will want to buy. I have given much thought to this. I am sure some will doubt what I am saying but I feel very strongly that we need to be setting a standard and supporting it as a group. If we cannot mass our buying power collectively toward a common platform VERY soon then we will not have to worry about it much longer because deeper pockets will do it for us. By most all accounts Telecoms with DSL and CableCos with DOCSIS have flourished by choosing industry standards for their broadband platforms and using it. They all support these same standards. I remember the early days of cable modems when there were 50 proprietary standards. Innovation came when the cable companies and their vendors banded together and built the DOCSIS standard and they all agreed to support it. That is innovation, focus, and efficiency. Why can't we do the same thing and learn from others who have succeeded? How can we achieve economies of scale with several different incompatible systems? I think we better wise up in 3.65 before we end up
[WISPA] Service Need
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[WISPA] CALEA Question
As I am finding myself back into sales, I have a question concerning CALEA. I just read this blurb: The “facilities-based” terminology was meant to include providers offering connectivity infrastructure between end users and the Internet. However, establishments that acquire broadband Internet access service from a facilities-based provider to enable their customers to access the Internet from their respective establishments are excluded. The FCC explicitly exempted retail providers such as those offering hot spot WiFi (News - Alert) service where the actual Internet connectivity is obtained from another provider From this site: http://www.rad-info.net/fcc/calea1.htm This would indicate to me that if you are a retail provider, i.e. you buy your broadband from someone else and resell it to your customers, that you are exempt. This would suggest that the onus is on your provider to monitor your T-1 or other connection to them in the event of a need for a tap. Any clarity on this would be great. WirelessGuys David Peterson Senior Wireless Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 207 W. Los Angeles Avenue, Suite 300 Moorpark, CA 93021-1862 tel: 800-945-3294 mobile: 979.224.4192 AIM: ultramesh inc Skype ID:nexuswirelessusa No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/784 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 2:57 PM CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients. If you are not the intended recipient, (or authorized to receive for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments and contact the sender by reply email or telephone (800) 945-3294. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Try it out vs. Cingular
Not all alternatives are costly (Lawyer) or illegal. Although the third link does broach on some moral grey areas. http://www.celltradeusa.com/ http://www.chipchick.com/2006/05/how_to_get_out_.html http://www.wikihow.com/Get-out-of-a-Cellular-Service-Contract David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Try it out vs. Cingular Trying to help someone out of a contract is illegal (unless you are their legal counsel). Ask your attorney if you want confirmation of this. The better approach is to sell your service in addition to the existing service. Tell him this provides a backup service in case one or the other is down and it provides enough cost savings to pay for your service. If he wants to get out of his contract then let him do it himself. Scriv Mike Hammett wrote: oh, I'm most certainly under $1200, even for a whole year. :-p Anyone have experience getting out of a bad Cingular deal? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Scott Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Try it out vs. Cingular Even if he can't get out of the Cingular contract, I would think paying you your normal rates would cost less than $1200 to Cingular. Suggest that your unlimited service is still less expensive than overages. Mike Hammett wrote: I have a potential customer that wanted to try out my service. He's got money, so I wasn't afraid he was looking to get something for nothing. He has Cingular now and can only get 125 - 175 kbit out of it. I clearly can provide a faster less latent service for a lower monthly cost (costs him $70/month). Apparently he wasn't on the unlimited rate plan and got hit with a $1200 bill. He doesn't think he can get out of his Cingular. *argh* That said, can anyone think of a way to hookup a standalone fax machine with the Cingular card? I can't contemplate anything at all. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/795 - Release Date: 5/9/2007 3:07 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/795 - Release Date: 5/9/2007 3:07 PM CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients. If you are not the intended recipient, (or authorized to receive for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments and contact the sender by reply email or telephone (800) 945-3294. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] online doc sharing
Try google docs and spreadsheets. Free and easy... David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] online doc sharing OK, what is that? Sorry guys, but I'm swamped and ignorant grin I just need to know what to put on a server (or whatever) that'll do the trick for us. And, naturally, I'm in a hurry for it. Any and all help would be much appreciated. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Ryan Langseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] online doc sharing I would check into using a revision control system such as subversion. I believe it will handle word docs properly. Ryan Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, The calea committee needs a way to share word docs online. We need to be able to edit them etc. online so that our edits don't overlap or get left off. We'd been using google docs but due to some new privacy requirements we're unable to do that now. We have to have the same functionality on one of our servers. Anyone know how to get one of the machines set up this way? The doc needs to be stored on a secure password protected site. thanks! Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 5/15/2007 10:47 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 5/15/2007 10:47 AM CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients. If you are not the intended recipient, (or authorized to receive for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments and contact the sender by reply email or telephone (800) 945-3294. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] service
If anyone services Muskegon, MI (Cloverville area) please hit me offlist. David No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.9/907 - Release Date: 7/18/2007 3:30 PM CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients. If you are not the intended recipient, (or authorized to receive for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments and contact the sender by reply email or telephone (800) 945-3294. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] VOIP Providers with Virtual Office Type Setups - CALL ME NOW
Johnny, http://www.junctionnetworks.com/hostedpbx/ http://www.iicinternet.com/hosted-trixbox.html They are very good people. Also you could rent a hosted Trixbox and connect it to a reputable wholesaler like Junction Networks among others. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] VOIP Providers with Virtual Office Type Setups - CALL ME NOW Importance: High Need a very quick solution to a very aggrivating problem. BellSouth and Us have been arguing for months over excess charges on our bill from when we had T1 services through them. Apparently this morning, they have decided to shut off our phone lines into our office. *There way of making us pay for stuff we do not owe them for * I am needing an almost overnite VoIP / Virtual Office type setup from someone who has reasonable pricing and a damn good service. If you are going to call and expect us to pay more then $100.00/mo for a 1-800 # type setup with 3 extensions. Don't bother... If anyone has any solutions they would like us to take a look at , we will be making a decision today by noon. Regards, JohnnyO 337-764-5953 Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.22/922 - Release Date: 7/27/2007 6:08 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.22/922 - Release Date: 7/27/2007 6:08 AM CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients. If you are not the intended recipient, (or authorized to receive for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments and contact the sender by reply email or telephone (800) 945-3294. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your networkonthego-go-go!
This looks interesting... http://3sp.com/showSslExplorerCommunity.do Open source web based WirelessGuys David Peterson Senior Wireless Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 207 W. Los Angeles Avenue, Suite 300 Moorpark, CA 93021-1862 tel: 800-945-3294 ext 102 mobile: 979.224.4192 AIM: ultramesh inc Skype ID:nexuswirelessusa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix A. Lopez Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 2:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your networkonthego-go-go! Paul - I recall a wireless operator wanted his field technician to be able to VPN into their server (using his handheld PDA) and download trouble tickets for field repair jobs on CPE, check network status, etc. They wanted to do this over Verizon but also WiFi. And they wanted session persistence so the field technician did not have to relog-in (re-authenticate) every-time he dropped the signal...or They wanted to keep the trouble ticket 'hot' and I think you can do this with the volatile memory on the PDA which then refreshes when you gain the signal. Can you talk about this, your experiences, and your product? Thanks Felix Lopez San Francisco, CA Utilities and Wireless Practitioner --- Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our VNC product is called Mobile Desktop (also supports RDP and SSH tunneling) and it is $45. Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile Inc. -Original Message- From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network onthego-go-go! That's better... What about the mobile VNC? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on thego-go-go! Mark, it sounds like you are referring to our Mobile Admin product which is directed to enterprises, pricing for Mobile Admin starts at $245/server. The Mobile SSH product that I suggested to David is much more affordable and targeted to individuals at $95, most of our customers agree that the ROI on the SSH product even for an individual or small company is very easy to justify. Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile Inc. -Original Message- From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! Paul, I have considered your product line for our BlackBerries (we have 2). It seems that your pricing was way out of line for a small provider to take on. It seemed that it was more directed at enterprise-level tech support personnel managing a large network with Exchange servers file servers such. Our needs are often that great, but our budgets often aren't. Do you have a pricing solution for us? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! David I just noticed your message asking for an SSH client for BlackBerry. Our product Idokorro Mobile SSH supports sending keys with CTRL, for example you can press CTRL+C and any other combination. As well with the BlackBerry devices QWERTY keyboard it makes SSH a snap. You also mentioned VNC, we also have a product that does that on a BlackBerry, it's called Mobile Desktop. If you have any other questions please contact me! Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile http://www.idokorro.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally, something I could take to a baseball game with me, even. A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's likely to double as a pass-around pager for whoever's on call this week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network. Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS software, so we need something that has an SSH client, and that SSH client needs to support key chording (Control
[WISPA] Looking for an engineer
I am looking to rent short term a competent engineer in the Andover, MA area. Hit me offlist. David WirelessGuys David Peterson Senior Wireless Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 207 W. Los Angeles Avenue, Suite 300 Moorpark, CA 93021-1862 tel: 800-945-3294 ext 102 mobile: 979.224.4192 AIM: ultramesh inc Skype ID:nexuswirelessusa No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.5/990 - Release Date: 9/4/2007 10:36 PM CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients. If you are not the intended recipient, (or authorized to receive for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments and contact the sender by reply email or telephone (800) 945-3294. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations
I would have to disagree with most of this thread. You have two things going against you in this. 1. A free market economy. 2. License Free spectrum. You can no more sue for someone putting up wireless in your area than you can if you owned a restaurant and McDonalds moved in next door. This is a critical component of American society, so I doubt that any judge would even allow the suit to ever get in front of a jury. If you can prove they are doing something illegal, like shooting your antennas with a .22 you might have a chance. License free spectrum means that you are going to get interference. Period. If interference were actionable, then Canopy would be out of business. Let's face it guys, Canopy interferes with most of all other equipment in its spectrum. By now, someone would have sued Canopy both on their equipment and on their marketing. (Who has seen the Wireless Thug pic at the shows. I know I have.) Your best bet is to prove that they are using unauthorized gear such as amps, etc. and cajole the FCC into investigating. David Peterson WirelesGuys Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:00 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations Jack, I don't think it would have to be anything illegal about the interference. If someone moves into an area established by you - where you have an ongoing business and (for instance) someone hangs some Canopy and creates the inability to recover from the noise - - that is a law suit in the making. I am sure you would have to do all you could do and present the evidence of such, but the one who knocked you oout of business would be responsible for your lost income. My partner (20% owner) is a Corporate attorney and we have had this discussion on several occasions. I will ask him what his take on this is and what grounds he bases this line of thought. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations Onlist for my reply. It's also a good onlist discusion. I have always believed that there is some way to combat someone who intentionally causes interference with an existing network to cause harm to the business or operation and or for financial gain. I'm not a lawyer, so I can't even give any advice that would be worthy of taking to court. But, to me, it's just unbelievable that criminal case can't be brought against the offending party. The same way the Ricco statutes were first used against the mob and in other racketeering cases. Statutory remedies for intentional acts. Many statutes provide remedies for intentional harms. Civil rights statutes provide remedies for intentional discrimination. Consumer fraud statutes provide remedies for unlawful trade practices. The federal RICCO statute provides remedies for victims of conspiratorial intentional conduct. http://www.rnoon.com/law_for_laymen/litigation/intent.html Jack Unger wrote: It's hard for me to accept that there are a few inconsiderate bullies out there who would intentionally and maliciously jam other WISPs in order to take over the customer base. I have recently seen probable evidence of just such behavior. Because the FCC has no law (that I know of) against this disgraceful behavior, legal recourse needs to be made in state court and state laws do vary from state to state. Would anyone who has fought against this type of unethical behavior please share with me (offlist please) what State law(s) they used? Thanks in advance, jack --- - ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT
RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations
Hey Mac, You can disagree with disrespect, this is opinion. : However, let me break this down for you and others on this thread. If 1 guy moves in the area, follows the rules and raises the noise floor, should you be able to engage in anti-competitive practices by asking that he be shut down? What if 15 move into your area and all compete? The only way that I could see having a leg to stand on is if he is deliberately attempting to interfere with your business instead of pursuing his normal course of business. As one guy pointed out, I am not a lawyer. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:50 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations I disagree totally :) with all respect! I also think that Canopy ought to be illegal in the USA. They built something that is totally spectrally unfriendly - on purpose! The commercial that they use to air was the last man standing. I didn't say that Canopy didn't build some pretty good gear - I said I hate their guts and wouldn't hang it if it were given to me for free due to the noise they create. I would love to see their gear recalled and outlawed. I can produce that commercial/ad in court and if you think you would stand a chance in civil court against an ad like that - - you are in for a surprise - - -unlicensed spectrum or not! We (all the WISP's) have a pact in N. Louisiana - - no one buys Canopy! Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Peterson Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations I would have to disagree with most of this thread. You have two things going against you in this. 1. A free market economy. 2. License Free spectrum. You can no more sue for someone putting up wireless in your area than you can if you owned a restaurant and McDonalds moved in next door. This is a critical component of American society, so I doubt that any judge would even allow the suit to ever get in front of a jury. If you can prove they are doing something illegal, like shooting your antennas with a .22 you might have a chance. License free spectrum means that you are going to get interference. Period. If interference were actionable, then Canopy would be out of business. Let's face it guys, Canopy interferes with most of all other equipment in its spectrum. By now, someone would have sued Canopy both on their equipment and on their marketing. (Who has seen the Wireless Thug pic at the shows. I know I have.) Your best bet is to prove that they are using unauthorized gear such as amps, etc. and cajole the FCC into investigating. David Peterson WirelesGuys Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:00 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations Jack, I don't think it would have to be anything illegal about the interference. If someone moves into an area established by you - where you have an ongoing business and (for instance) someone hangs some Canopy and creates the inability to recover from the noise - - that is a law suit in the making. I am sure you would have to do all you could do and present the evidence of such, but the one who knocked you oout of business would be responsible for your lost income. My partner (20% owner) is a Corporate attorney and we have had this discussion on several occasions. I will ask him what his take on this is and what grounds he bases this line of thought. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations Onlist for my reply. It's also a good onlist discusion. I have always believed that there is some way to combat someone who intentionally causes interference with an existing network to cause harm to the business or operation and or for financial gain. I'm not a lawyer, so I can't even give any advice that would be worthy of taking to court. But, to me, it's just unbelievable that criminal case can't be brought against the offending party. The same way the Ricco statutes were first used against the mob and in other racketeering cases. Statutory remedies for intentional acts. Many statutes provide remedies for intentional harms. Civil rights statutes provide remedies for intentional discrimination. Consumer fraud statutes provide remedies for unlawful trade practices. The federal
