Ping me offlist for any pricing on Airspan.

David Peterson
WirelessGuys Inc.

'On 1/25/08 12:10 PM, "Eric Muehleisen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm sorry guys. Price was not discussed. A quote will be delivered to me
> shortly. I will post cost as soon as I see it. I'm hoping early next week.
> 
> I do have a sales order for one Redline RedMAX base station with outdoor
> CPE if anyone is interested...offlist.
> 
> FYI...I'm not in any shape or form affiliated with Airspan or Redline.
> We are an Internet Service Provider serving the greater Midwestern Kansas.
> 
> Eric Muehleisen
> Sr. Internet Technology Specialist
> Nex-Tech - Lightning Jack
> 785.625.7070 office
> 785.621.2980 voip
> 
> George Rogato wrote:
>> Only thing I want to know is the price range, offlist if you must. But
>> I'm sure everyone is curious.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> George
>> 
>> Eric Muehleisen wrote:
>>   
>>> We just completed a demo of Airspan's Hipermax in Emporia, Kansas
>>> yesterday. Stutler Technologies hosted us as they are one of the largest
>>> systems integrators for Airspan. I must say that I was very impressed
>>> with it's NLOS performance. We tested both the indoor self install and
>>> the outdoor ST Pro CPE. We achieve 6mb/s indoor at 2 miles NLOS. The
>>> base station was a 1 sector install using diversity at approximately.
>>> 50ft up on tower using 120 degree sectors.
>>> 
>>> Email me offlist if you'd like more info and whitepapers from our testing.
>>> 
>>> -Eric
>>> 
>>> jeffrey thomas wrote:
>>>     
>>>> All,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Aperto actually has a really killer product launching next month in
>>>> 3.65.
>>>> I would state its a lot more stable than Redline's product due to their
>>>> "secret sauce". Its the same platform that is winning carriers overseas.
>>>> 
>>>> Airspan- yes absolutely can give you up to 10w EIRP legal- so your
>>>> coverage
>>>> area for fixed is literally insane- 15km NLOS @ bpsk is possible,
>>>> according 
>>>> to their calculator tool.  outdoor cpe is around 600 or so in single
>>>> piece qty-
>>>> talk to wireless guys to buy or other resellers.
>>>> 
>>>> BTW, I believe they just joined Wispa as a vendor member, for those that
>>>> sent me private mails asking them to join.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:19:44 -0600, "Mike Hammett"
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> So then Airspan can go further (more applicable to rural markets)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If Redline's 15 mbit throughput per 7.5 MHz is correct and is similar to
>>>>> other products in this band, a 10 MHz product would have 20 mbit
>>>>> throughput.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm working on an Enterprise level service, so it seems like Redline's
>>>>> AN-80 
>>>>> is the only high quality product that actually has throughput
>>>>> capabilities.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 11:26 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks
>>>>> ToRollout New WiMAX Service)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>>> IIRC,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3.65 ghz rules allow 1 watt EIRP per each mhz of bandwidth, thus a 7.5
>>>>>> Mhz Radio would be allowed 7.5 Watts of EIRP, 10 Mhz radio would be 10
>>>>>> Watts EIRP ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Redline cert does not reflect this... don't know why
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Airspan certification does get really close to it
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mind me but 10 Watts EIRP if allot (about 40 db)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Vendors should seek maybe 15 or 20 mhz channels
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>>>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Matt Liotta
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:12 PM
>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks To
>>>>>> Rollout New WiMAX Service)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As much as I like seeing One Ring's name over and over I figured I
>>>>>> switch the subject line to match the tread.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mike's comments below are accurate with regard to Redline's equipment.
>>>>>> However, it should be noted that Redline was not able to get their gear
>>>>>> certified at the full power output allowable for 3.65. It is for this
>>>>>> reason that Redline does not believe its gear will work in rural
>>>>>> markets. Remember, 3.65 was originally supposed to be for the rural
>>>>>> market, which means either Redline went wrong somewhere or the FCC did.
>>>>>> Additionally, Redline has not sought to get its indoor CPE certified for
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3.65 because of the power issue. That means urban operators are not able
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> to offer self-install options that would greater speed up the rollout
>>>>>> process.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I believe WISPA should be working with the 3.65 radio vendors and the
>>>>>> FCC to get things fixed such that there will be a greater opportunity
>>>>>> for operators to provide services using 3.65.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Matt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> The guys at Redline said their equipment is power limited due to FCC
>>>>>>> limitations.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My point of view is based on Redline's statement of what their gear
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>> can do
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> coupled with the documents filed with the FCC for their certification.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The most I could get out of a PtP link was about 7 miles.  With a 90*
>>>>>>> sector, only about 5 miles.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I agree that all else the same 3.65 is better than 5.x GHz, only it
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> because the power isn't there.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The throughput isn't there for WiMax compliant equipment due to small
>>>>>>> channels.  If there were larger channel sizes, yes, it would support
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>> higher
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> throughput applications.  According to Redline, 7.5 MHz only gets
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>> about 15
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> megs of throughput with WiMax.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Redline explicitly said 3.65 GHz isn't for rural applications due to
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> power.
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>            
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