Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Program/Script for Web Server?

2007-01-11 Thread N White

Bo Hamilton wrote:
Hello Everyone!  Im looking for a Bandwidth Progrom for my Web Server. 
Can

someone on the list help me?

Thanks in advance!

Bo Hamilton

NCOWireless.com

What web server are you running?

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Re: [WISPA] Linux distro for the desktop

2007-01-11 Thread N White

Butch Evans wrote:
I am a FreeBSD guy.  Heart and soul.  However, I am in the process of 
evaluating which Linux distro I want to put on my laptop.  I would 
just go with FreeBSD, but I want to try this Linux thing...FreeBSD 
makes the BEST server platform (no flames, please), but their desktop 
OS is not the best.


Ubuntu is good, but I couldn't get it to work with my Broadcom (ugh) 
laptop minipci card straight after install. I tried a few, and the only 
one that worked was Linspire. It's pretty desktop friendly. 
Debian-based. I recommend either Ubuntu or Linspire.


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Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-28 Thread N White
We never used the TRCPQ, but we do have several hundred TRCPEs and 
TRCPE200s. We have 3 Access points with ~50 clients each- a combination 
of TRCPE, CPE200, and DemarcTech units. This handles well. If I remember 
correctly, the TRCPE is Atheros based(?) and I would think that it 
should work ever better than the TRCPE200 (Prism-based; which have 
sometimes been troublesome when one gets flaky) in combination with an 
Atheros based StarOS AP. All of our StarOS APs are Atheros based - 
either CM9, SR2, or WLM54G. Really no problems, and any that we've had 
we have overcome by tracking down some bad CPEs. We have a total of 
about 300 2.4Ghz clients, and about a dozen 5.8 clients.


-Nick


D. Ryan Spott wrote:
Can anyone just answer the questions I had without fighting amongst 
yourselves? (I thought Xmas with the inlaws was bad!)


Lonnie... If I were to buy a StarOS type product, would it be 
compatable with the CPQ series radios from Tranzeo?


What sort of client load should I be able to support on a Star-OS 
based AP?




ryan


On Dec 28, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:


Patrick,

This is simply the LOWEST blow I have EVER seen you throw.  You have
always been an Evangelist and I have seen you come and go from several
lists, while me and my people have survived legal blind sides and we
have outlived several LARGER companies.

Yep, pretty low.  Plus it did not answer the question.  I feel I
cannot jump in since I am too close to the product and thus might be
seen as self serving.  What is your excuse?


Lonnie


On 12/28/06, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I mean, besides simply being illegal, such a vendor has
no quality controls, they can also just up and walk away from you and
quit anytime, they have no accountability, and it throws away your
investment from an equity standpoint.


Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Butch Evans
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:00 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Patrick Leary wrote:

Why not stick with Tranzeo or one of the other legal
(FCC-certified) brands?

Good idea, Patrick, but it doesn't answer the question that was
asked.

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Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-28 Thread N White
Correction. It's late, I'm tired, and have had too much wine. I meant 
that the TRCPQ is Atheros based, not TRCPE. This is from a Tranzeo list:



The CPE90 is Marvell.
The 900, the CPQ, the 6000, the 49, and the 5a are all Atheros based.
The CPE200, the 1000, 2000, 3000 and 4000 were Prism based.
The CPE80 was Atmel.
-Damian Wallace


Also, if you decide to go the StarOS/Mikrotik way, make sure you upgrade 
all of your Tranzeo gear to the latest firmwares.


-Nick


N White wrote:

We never used the TRCPQ, but we do have several hundred TRCPEs and 
TRCPE200s. We have 3 Access points with ~50 clients each- a 
combination of TRCPE, CPE200, and DemarcTech units. This handles well. 
If I remember correctly, the TRCPE is Atheros based(?) and I would 
think that it should work ever better than the TRCPE200 (Prism-based; 
which have sometimes been troublesome when one gets flaky) in 
combination with an Atheros based StarOS AP. All of our StarOS APs are 
Atheros based - either CM9, SR2, or WLM54G. Really no problems, and 
any that we've had we have overcome by tracking down some bad CPEs. We 
have a total of about 300 2.4Ghz clients, and about a dozen 5.8 clients.


-Nick


D. Ryan Spott wrote:
Can anyone just answer the questions I had without fighting amongst 
yourselves? (I thought Xmas with the inlaws was bad!)


Lonnie... If I were to buy a StarOS type product, would it be 
compatable with the CPQ series radios from Tranzeo?


What sort of client load should I be able to support on a Star-OS 
based AP?




ryan


On Dec 28, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:


Patrick,

This is simply the LOWEST blow I have EVER seen you throw.  You have
always been an Evangelist and I have seen you come and go from several
lists, while me and my people have survived legal blind sides and we
have outlived several LARGER companies.

Yep, pretty low.  Plus it did not answer the question.  I feel I
cannot jump in since I am too close to the product and thus might be
seen as self serving.  What is your excuse?


Lonnie


On 12/28/06, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I mean, besides simply being illegal, such a vendor has
no quality controls, they can also just up and walk away from you and
quit anytime, they have no accountability, and it throws away your
investment from an equity standpoint.


Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Behalf Of Butch Evans
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Patrick Leary wrote:

Why not stick with Tranzeo or one of the other legal
(FCC-certified) brands?

Good idea, Patrick, but it doesn't answer the question that was
asked.

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Network Engineering and Security Consulting
573-276-2879
http://www.butchevans.com/
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Re: [WISPA] OT: sendmail question

2006-10-30 Thread N White

I suggest the following. I never liked Sendmail all that much

http://www.qmailrocks.org - The Mailing List is VERY active.
http://qmail.jms1.net/ - Many patches and great information that goes 
with above


-Nick


Chadd Thompson wrote:

Won't that still allow the user to receive mail for every domain on the
server unless you go in for every user and specifically deny that particular
address? 


Say you wanted bob to only be able to receive mail on yoyo.com and not
yingyang.com or jacks.com. I would have to put entries in the virtual user
table to exclude/deny the addresses of [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
that way the only email that could get through to bob would be [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is there any other way to do this?

On a side note lately I have been having users get other users email. It is
always a spam message and never a legitimate email but still has me boggled
on how it is happening. I inspect the header information and it shows that
it was came in on the server to the correct addressed user, but it ends up
in a different mailbox. Any ideas on that?

Thanks,
Chadd

  

The only thing I have found is the virtual user table,
  

That is how you do it.  Make a virtual user for the main account and
then just  forward the other email addresses to that account.

Jeremy Davis

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Re: [WISPA] OT: sendmail question

2006-10-30 Thread N White

lolz. ;-) I guess anything is better than Sendmail. Right?

-Nick


David E. Smith wrote:

On Mon, October 30, 2006 3:41 pm, N White wrote:

  

I suggest the following. I never liked Sendmail all that much



You misspelled 'www.postfix.org' :)

David Smith
MVN.net

  



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Re: [WISPA] ? Web Developer Guru's

2006-10-26 Thread N White
Since it is a CGI script, I'm assuming it's written in Perl. Adding 
those two functions should be relatively easy. Let me know if you need 
anything. I'm a full-time web developer, systems administrator, and 
network administrator; I know these things from all angles.


-Nick


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Hello Web Developer Guru's,
I looking for comments or suggestions on my site survey request 
process.  I want to make sure it's as streamlined as it can be.  Here 
is the current process from start to finish.


Potential subscriber calls and we talk $.  If they are still 
interested I send them to www.reliableinter.net to click on Free 
availability check.  They submit the form,
a cgi script runs, and the raw data is sent to an imap account that 
my web developer and I have access to.


My web developer than open the email from imap in word and runs 2 
macros to organize the raw data.  One for my copy and one for the 
customers.
My copy adds a bunch of text at the bottom of all the customer info 
(things like site survey date, install date, mac address, ssid, 
equipment, new email, rate plan,
IP, DNS, and some other good stuff that needs to be on a work order).  
The other macro organizes the raw data for him to send an email back 
to the
customer see what they submitted along with added text that says, 
We'll call you, bla bla.
After all my work order text is added he emails it (for review) from 
word back to the imap account and the info all shows up in the body of 
the email. Now I print the email (1 page) and stick it in a 3 ring 
binder.  This leaves me with one email/printed email that has every 
field necessary to complete site survey, install, and billing.



Making the process smoother...
I'd like to know if my process could be changed to what I'll describe 
below without a major overhaul, or if it needs major work, tell me a 
little about it.
This reason we're doing it like we are is because I know very little 
about web development/cgi/macro stuff.  This is the way my guy knew 
how to handle it.


After the customer hits submit I want 2 things to happen.

I want a confirmation email auto sent to them that shows them want 
they wrote and shows them the text I added.  So at some point between 
hitting submit

and getting the email, We'll call you. needs to be injected.

I also want an email sent to me with the customers organized data on 
it.  Again, the email is to have text added at the bottom of this email,

but my text needs to be the work order type text I explained earlier.

Summary.  Fill out form.  Click submit.  Two unique email sent.  Their 
copy with We'll call you text and my copy with Work order text.


The last thing.  When I receive the email, I want the sender's email 
to show up so I can hit reply and be talking to them.  Currently the 
sender is my own account

and I have to copy and paste the customers email to reply .

Can it be done and what would it take?

Brian Rohrbacher
Reliable Internet, LLC
www.reliableinter.net
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Re: [WISPA] ? Web Developer Guru's

2006-10-26 Thread N White
CGI is Perl. If you'd like to send me a copy of the CGI script, I can 
take a look and see what I could do. You shouldn't have to use SMTP 
authentication, instead just have the script input Reply-To: headers in 
the email it sends to you. Or simply change the From: header to that of 
the client/customer. I work a lot in PHP and Perl, I know both of these 
are capable of doing this for you without using SMTP authentication. 
Send me a message off list if you like.


-Nick


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
Inline, and thanks.  This is more like the response I needed.  At 
least now I can go learn about smtp auth and how it's done, and the 
other stuff you talked about.
Also Scriv requested no Step by step web design commentary on the 
list.  At this point it looks like I'm pointed more in the right 
direction so I'll go offlist with a couple folks who offered 
suggestions and help.  Once i have all this figured out I can share 
the code with whoever wants it.  But then again this might be so 
easy no one really needs it.


Jason Hensley wrote:


Brian,

In your backend script (the CGI / Perl script I assume), 


cgi

you could have it send out two separate emails - 1 to the client with 
the information you want them to see, and the other to you with the 
information you are wanting.  I'm not that familiar with Perl but I'm 
assuming it could use SMTP Authentication somehow so that the emails 
sent out could appear to come from the customer.  


yup sounds good

Hard to say much more than it's easy because truthfully, any 
semi-decent coder should be able to do this pretty easily, whether it 
be CGI / Perl, ASP, PHP, whatever, and without seeing your code 


I can make it available offlist if someone wanted to look.

and your setup, it's hard to say what would be best to use in this 
situation.  I'm an ASP guy.  Others are PHP, others are Perl.  They 
can all accomplish this without the intermediate step of having to 
open Word to put the data in that you want.


Great









- Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ? Web Developer Guru's


Thanks.  I kinda already asked for help.  Looking over my original 
post do you have any more specific suggestions other than it's 
easy?  I have explained what I am currently doing and what I want 
to do.  I can't really ask more because I've included everything I 
know.


Brian

N White wrote:

Since it is a CGI script, I'm assuming it's written in Perl. Adding 
those two functions should be relatively easy. Let me know if you 
need anything. I'm a full-time web developer, systems 
administrator, and network administrator; I know these things from 
all angles.


-Nick


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


Hello Web Developer Guru's,
I looking for comments or suggestions on my site survey request 
process. I want to make sure it's as streamlined as it can be.  
Here is the current process from start to finish.


Potential subscriber calls and we talk $.  If they are still 
interested I send them to www.reliableinter.net to click on Free 
availability check.  They submit the form,
a cgi script runs, and the raw data is sent to an imap account 
that my web developer and I have access to.


My web developer than open the email from imap in word and runs 2 
macros to organize the raw data.  One for my copy and one for the 
customers.
My copy adds a bunch of text at the bottom of all the customer 
info (things like site survey date, install date, mac address, 
ssid, equipment, new email, rate plan,
IP, DNS, and some other good stuff that needs to be on a work 
order). The other macro organizes the raw data for him to send an 
email back to the
customer see what they submitted along with added text that says, 
We'll call you, bla bla.
After all my work order text is added he emails it (for review) 
from word back to the imap account and the info all shows up in 
the body of the email. Now I print the email (1 page) and stick it 
in a 3 ring binder.  This leaves me with one email/printed email 
that has every field necessary to complete site survey, install, 
and billing.



Making the process smoother...
I'd like to know if my process could be changed to what I'll 
describe below without a major overhaul, or if it needs major 
work, tell me a little about it.
This reason we're doing it like we are is because I know very 
little about web development/cgi/macro stuff.  This is the way my 
guy knew how to handle it.


After the customer hits submit I want 2 things to happen.

I want a confirmation email auto sent to them that shows them want 
they wrote and shows them the text I added.  So at some point 
between hitting submit

and getting the email, We'll call you. needs to be injected.

I also want an email sent to me with the customers organized data 
on it. Again, the email is to have text added at the bottom of 
this email,
but my text needs

Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam

2006-10-18 Thread N White
I just configured FuzzyOCR (we've been having the same problem this last 
week with stock spam), and it only took about 150 minutes to install, 
configure, test.

http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/FuzzyOcrPlugin

I just used by the INSTALL file in the downloaded tarball.
http://users.own-hero.net/~decoder/fuzzyocr/fuzzyocr-2.3b.tar.gz

-Nick


Carl A Jeptha wrote:
Ok spill the beans about the ocr, don't let me get to you to beat it 
out of you. (OOOPPPS did I say that out loud ) :-[


Please give more info as this is the means of doing spam now.

You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
Office Phone: 905 349-2084
Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm
skype cajeptha



Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote:

Just use spamAssassin with an OCR plugin it does wonders :)

On 10/17/06, rwf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Marlon-

We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam 
that has
been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no 
readable

text.
I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal 
Email

accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day.

How does postini filter the graphical spam?

Ralph


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Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam

our postini is doing a pretty good job.


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Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam

2006-10-17 Thread N White

Carl A Jeptha wrote:

Anybody been able to block the stockmarket spam???
My Merak with Spamassassin is loosing the battle.


That seems to be our only weakness. Also using SpamAssassin.

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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative

2006-10-11 Thread N White
We're using the B-only version with StarOS. They work wonderfully. I 
think I mentioned it already on another list, but once again, I 
recommend these.


-Nick


Chad Halsted wrote:


Take a look at these…

http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwo/rwo-plus-hpg-15a.htm

I have ordered a couple to evaluate, but still haven’t had the time to 
put them up. They are built pretty solid and are a tad bit smaller 
than the TR-CPE200’s. They were advised to me by another Wisper that 
uses StarOS, he had good success with them.




*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
*On Behalf Of *Jason Hensley

*Sent:* Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:17 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative

Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see 
what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units 
(802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, 
but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the 
CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost 
every 10 pack I get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just 
got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's 
though).


I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than 
the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they 
weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though.


Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but 
of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to 
do that, and not sure if it would be as financially economical as 
Tranzeo in the long run.





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Re: [WISPA] Outage

2006-09-28 Thread N White
HaHa! Amazing. We had a similar issue where some possible rats (or could 
have been squirrels, never found out for sure from them what it was) had 
gotten in a customer's wall and bit through the cable, just not 
completely severing the wires. So the link was very flaky, in and out. 
75% out. Fixed it with some small PVC pipe through the wall.


Nick


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
So, I'm working from home today.  The internet goes off.  Wireless 
router fine...cannot access cpe.  The cpe cable runs down the chimney 
and I figured it rubbed through on the top.  I go up there and it is 
fine.  I go to basement and head for the cable (runs through 8x8 
cleanout to chimney)  I go to grab the tarp that is wadded up and 
stuffed in the hole and I hear this awful hissing and growling.  I 
jumped back and about crapped my pants!  Long story shortit 2 hrs 
later and I now have a cap on the chimney and the GREY SQUIRREL ran 
towards the back woods (lucky bastard, I'm too close to town for the 
.22)  I was using a brick tied to a rope and I was throwing it down 
the chimney for an hour.  He decided to run when I tried to stab him 
with a piece of pvc I found in the basement.  Anyway, beware of them 
squirrels.


Brian



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Re: [WISPA] A little help with Mikrotik

2006-09-20 Thread N White
2 Miles? That's all? The farthest we've gotten is 27 on some old Tranzeo 
2.4 gear. It's now been replaced with StarOS, but we're still getting 20 
miles, and probably more. What antennas are you using? I'm assuming 
you've got a really cluttered spectrum?


Nick


Barry at Mutual Data wrote:

Hello Mark,

15 miles!!   HAHAHAHA I wish I was so lucky. We are ecstatic if we
get 2 miles with 2.4Ghz.

We can hardly do 3 miles at times with 900mhz.

IIRC, 802.11 timed out at about 11 miles and StarOS had adjusted those
settings. Not sure what Mikrotik has done, although nstreme may
address that.

Barry

Wednesday, September 20, 2006, 2:22:32 PM, you wrote:

MK I use 11b mode for most of my clients.   I have 3 routerboard 112's in long
MK distance shots, and I'm sorely disappointed at the performance.   Compared
MK to Star-OS, the throughput is down about 40%.Two clients just one house
MK apart, and about 15 miles from the AP show dramatic performance differences.
MK The RSSI is the same for both, btw.   One, with compression and other
MK atheros features enabled will pass 1200KB of compressible data, around
MK 520-540KB of non-compressible data.   Right next door, the best I can
MK achieve through the RB112 is around 350KB.   I see this dramatic deficit in
MK ALL my MT installs, in that none of them which are over 15 miles will come
MK anywhere near the throughput of the WRAP / Star-OS client.  All are CM9
MK radios.

MK I've looked through everything I can find, and checked the compression box
MK in the appropriate place (using winbox) but the performance is about the
MK same as my compex  boards's original firmware, which i judged to be
MK inadequate.

MK Am I missing something?   Is this just a setting problem or ???

MK Any help appreciated.


MK +++
MK neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington
MK email me at mark at neofast dot net
MK 541-969-8200
MK Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net




  



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Re: [WISPA] Wireless AP w/o router

2006-08-22 Thread N White
We usually get the Netgear WGR614 - sometimes refurbished. If you 
disable DHCP it's essentially a Wireless AP bridge like what you're 
wanting. You can usually pick these up for around $15-20 online, 
depending on bulk. I think we got some in bulk for about $16 each and 
their wired counterpart for $11.


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Scott Reed wrote:
I am looking for suggestions for customer AP that is not a router.  
Need equivalent or lower cost than SOHO router.  AP and a 4 port 
switch would be great.


I am looking to use routing on the CPE, thus the customer does not 
need to purchase a router.  But, if they want wireless inside, need an 
inexpensive way to get it to them.



Scott Reed
Owner
NewWays
Wireless Networking
Network Design, Installation and Administration
www.nwwnet.net http://www.nwwnet.net/



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Re: [WISPA] Field Techs Non-Standard Installations

2006-07-20 Thread N White
We charge $85/hour for anything after standard installation. Standard 
installation includes installing and configuring the CPE and any 
customer computers that are present at the time of installation, 
including a installation of a router or switch if necessary. It does not 
include trenches, masts, custom wiring runs (attic, crawlspace, etc), or 
troubleshooting client PC problems.


Nick



KyWiFi LLC wrote:

We are starting to see more and more subscribers need custom
installations such as a vent pipe mount, aerial drop, trenching, etc.
How is everyone paying their sub-contractors when it comes to
non-standard installations? For instance, say you pay $75 to a
sub-contractor for a standard installation but when they arrive
at the job site, the subscriber needs a 10' ditch dug. If the
sub-contractor says he will dig the ditch for $25 do you just
tack this amount on to the subscriber's installation fee and then
pass it along to the sub-contractor or do you add say $10 - $20
to the amount the sub-contractor is going to charge you and then
bill the subscriber the inflated amount which would then have a
profit margin attached? Or, do you have the sub-contractor bill
the subscriber separately for digging the ditch or whatever else
they want/need done at their premises? In other words, do you
try to make a profit on the additional work performed by the
sub-contractor which falls outside a standard installation?


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
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Re: [WISPA] Field Techs Non-Standard Installations

2006-07-20 Thread N White
Right. Generally we run around the outside of the house/building - try 
to conceal as much cable as possible. Like you said, we try to make it 
the cleanest and neatest. Then drill in and install a plate. Always 
taking customer input and preference of course. A lot similar to a Dish 
or DirectTV install. Accept we try to be neater about it. :-)


Nick



Jason Hensley wrote:
Can you define custom wire runs?  What do you consider a non-custom 
wire run if you're not going through the attic or whatever?  Do you 
just drill from the outside wall in or what?


I'm just curious as we try to take whatever route in with the cabling 
that makes it look the neatest and try our best to drill as few holes 
as possible.  Sometimes that's through an attic, crawl space, whatever.




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We charge $85/hour for anything after standard installation. Standard 
installation includes installing and configuring the CPE and any 
customer computers that are present at the time of installation, 
including a installation of a router or switch if necessary. It does 
not include trenches, masts, custom wiring runs (attic, crawlspace, 
etc), or troubleshooting client PC problems.


Nick



KyWiFi LLC wrote:

We are starting to see more and more subscribers need custom
installations such as a vent pipe mount, aerial drop, trenching, etc.
How is everyone paying their sub-contractors when it comes to
non-standard installations? For instance, say you pay $75 to a
sub-contractor for a standard installation but when they arrive
at the job site, the subscriber needs a 10' ditch dug. If the
sub-contractor says he will dig the ditch for $25 do you just
tack this amount on to the subscriber's installation fee and then
pass it along to the sub-contractor or do you add say $10 - $20
to the amount the sub-contractor is going to charge you and then
bill the subscriber the inflated amount which would then have a
profit margin attached? Or, do you have the sub-contractor bill
the subscriber separately for digging the ditch or whatever else
they want/need done at their premises? In other words, do you
try to make a profit on the additional work performed by the
sub-contractor which falls outside a standard installation?


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
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$14.99 Home Phone Service
$19.99 All Digital Satellite TV
- No Phone Line Required for DSL
- FREE Activation  Equipment
- Affordable Upfront Pricing
- Locally Owned  Operated
- We Also Service Most Rural Areas
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Re: [WISPA] Ok, what DO you want?

2006-06-28 Thread N White

Is this an all-in-one antenna included, or not?


Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

Ok, so I found a vendor...   Someone who is OEM'ing boards and products that
are sold by and reccommended by respected members of this list.

Salesman makes the following claims: for capabilities...

Support for higher power, and a/b/g atheros mini-pci cards - supports 2.4
and 5 ghz bands.

POE, either 802.3af or passive

Routing

Distance optimization.  (more than just ack timing adjust)

dhcp

Adjustable channel widths, presumably compatible with MT, Star-OS, and
Ikarus cloaking.

Many other features.

both MIPS and xscale based boards, not all features apply to all boards.

I'd love to make a group purchase (and the supplier would love to sell by
the thousands) after I've evaluated a few samples I'm about to get sent in.

Is anyone interested?Presumable prices for bulk buys would be right
about $100 for board, mini-pci radio of choice and power supply / injector.
I really am not attempting to make any money here, I'd just like to get the
cheaper CPE.   If I flood the name of the vendor, the sales staff may well
stop being willing to sell smaller quantities to non-resellers.

North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
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Re: [WISPA] 24 dbi Atlas Fox

2006-06-08 Thread N White
What kind of distance are you seeing with those 5G Rootennas? And what 
kind of APs  Antennas are you using? Just curious - we're looking at 
moving all new customers to 5Ghz.


-Nick

George Rogato wrote:
Those MTI's are nice looking product. Nice price too. Have you checked 
out the pac wireless 5 gig rootennas yet?


They are working great for me and they are cheap.

George

Tom DeReggi wrote:

I was thinking
Although legal issues involved...  (so not indorsing or recommending 
this idea)
 
An Atlas Fox, mounted inside a MTI 24 dbi Dual Pol antenna w/ stock 
radio case back, and a custom mod to bypass internal antenna and 
jumper to the ext antenna connectors, would be less expensive than 
both a base Fox5800 unit and the 5830SU, and give us 16 more 
additional DB, which would make it a fantastic combination for a high 
end business or residential CPE able to survive the noise, upgradable 
to OFDM, and easy to mount.  But most importantly, it would only be 
one radio CPE type to stock to cover all needs, allowing it to be 
easier to make quantity orders.
 
In qty 25+, MTI w/ case $245 (maybe a little more with import charges)

Atlas Fox $149.
Pigtail Jumpers: $15  
Total: $409.
 
It would take more time to hack(build), but it would save time by not 
having to muck with the dish.  
So why is Trango not doing this yet?
 
Tom DeReggi

RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 




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