RE: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

[pswired]

I think a simple TV antenna rotator would do the trick.  If you got an IP
camera with dry contact outputs, like the Axis network cameras, you could
wire up some relays connected to the outputs of the camera that would
rotate the pole in either direction.  The contact outputs on the axis
cameras can be controlled through the web interface.  You'd need a slip
ring arrangement of some sort or limit switches on the rotator so that
your ethernet and control cables don't get all wrapped up when the pole
rotates, of course.

Patrick

> Tom,
>   I would try and look up something from the ham radio realm. They have
> remote control systems for remote mounted radios. My idea would be is you
> can find something with a software package that can remotely control a
> rotor. This rotor would have your AP and camera mounted to the short
> section
> of mast on top of the rotor. This could be an inexpensive TV antenna
> rotor.
> Off the top of my head I can't think of anything that I know does this but
> that's because I don't play with remote controlled radios much.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
> www.wirelessmapping.com 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:21 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles
>
>
> For the longest time, I wanted to build a solution to do the following,
> from
> each of our Master Cell Sites
>
> 1) Rotate a IP Camera 360 deg (remotely over an IP connection)
> 2) Rotate a Pole with a Trango Fox 5800SU on it 360 deg (remotely over IP
> connection).
>
> The purpose is two fold
>
> When Link quality severally degrades for a short period, either packet
> loss
> or rssi,
>
> 1) To discover/view when there is a third party worker working on the roof
> of our cell site.
>   (Who may be standing in front of antennas periodically or testing
> gear
> that interfers without getting pre-approved)
>
> 2) To do a spectrum site survey, on the fly in any direction, to find the
> least noisy channel, WITHOUT taking the primary sector antenna down
> (offline).
>
> By having the radio and the camera on the same pole, it would help confirm
> which direction we were pointing exactly when doing the survey. One of the
> other requirements is that it won't turn more that 360 in one direction to
> prevent cable CAT5 breaking, and to ahve a refference of the starting
> point
> in deg, calibrated to a known direction (north 0 deg?).   What would
> REALLY
> be cool, is if it had a speaker out put on the camera, so I could yell at
> the worker standing in front of my antenna :-).   I'm aware that some
> camera
> may have an output for controlling a relay or servo motor, as some
> solutions/platforms exist to mount and rotate a single camera attached.
> Preferably, I'd like a solution that could rotate the pole itself.
> Everything of course would need to be outdoor survivable, and strong
> enough
> that the pole would stay errect and safe at 200-300 feet up.  My thought
> is
> that maybe the controls could be initiated from the IP Camera connections,
> If I found a rotating platform/pole mount.
>
> Are there any mechanical hobbyists out there, that might suggest the most
> cost effective way to accomplish this?
> (My goal is lowest cost, lowest cost, lowest cost, so I can afford to
> replicate the solution at about 20 locations)
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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RE: [WISPA] Tower ice buildup

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I have looked at the AN Wireless product line and they look like great
towers and are close by in PA, but they don't make anything over 120 feet.
 I need to get higher than that to ensure LOS to some key areas.

I believe my ice question will be answered shortly, the county's
communication site coordinator is having one of his engineers send me the
requirements.

I'm looking for other suggestions for light duty self-support towers or
monopoles as close to 200' as possible but below the 200 mark to avoid FCC
registration and FAA marking.  Have been looking at www.usedtowers.com but
I will need stamped PE drawings for my state so any of those will need to
be re-engineered.  Trylon is appealing because they will supply the
engineering drawings and the cost is relatively low.  I don't have room
for a guyed tower.  Suggestions?

Patrick


> PLEASE take a look at www.anwireless.com for tower considerations. Their
> HD series is much beefier then the Trylon towers. When compared side to
> side - you'll be pleased.
>
> JohnnyO
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:29 PM
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> Subject: [WISPA] Tower ice buildup
>
>
> Hello list,
>
> I am planning the installation of a self-supporting tower for a startup
> WISP in Maryland.  I am considering light duty off-the-shelf designs
> from Trylon such as the SuperTitan.  I am trying to determine whether to
> include ice buildup as a factor in the tower purchase.  I have obtained
> maximum wind speed data from the local building department but they were
> clueless when it came to considerations for ice buildup.  What's the
> best practice for arriving at this figure?
>
> Patrick Shoemaker
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[WISPA] Tower ice buildup

[pswired]

Hello list,

I am planning the installation of a self-supporting tower for a startup
WISP in Maryland.  I am considering light duty off-the-shelf designs from
Trylon such as the SuperTitan.  I am trying to determine whether to
include ice buildup as a factor in the tower purchase.  I have obtained
maximum wind speed data from the local building department but they were
clueless when it came to considerations for ice buildup.  What's the best
practice for arriving at this figure?

Patrick Shoemaker

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Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer

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The order has already been placed for these units and they should be
arriving in the states shortly.  I believe John ordered a few extras so if
anyone wanted to get one who missed out on the GP they still can.  I think
he ordered 6080s with the memory expansion.  I'm looking forward to trying
mine out.

Patrick




> Here is the prices he sent me.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
>
>
> rabbtux rabbtux wrote: please forward a price list :-)
>
> On 6/20/06, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> He gave me the final prices for these, so if anyone was interested, I
>> can forward it to you.
>> OFFLIST
>> Brian
>>
>> Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
>>
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> > David Sovereen wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm interested in a unit, but haven't got a response.  Is
>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  the right address?
>> >>
>> >> Dave
>> >>
>> >> 989-837-3790 x 151
>> >> 989-837-3780 fax
>> >>
>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> >> www.mercury.net 
>> >>
>> >> 129 Ashman St, Midland, MI  48640
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Re: [WISPA] How do you market your WISP

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I'd like to piggy-back off of this thread.  I'm getting further in the
planning stages for my WISP as well and am trying to come up with ideas
for a pilot program.  I want to get a few initial customers who will have
free internet access for a month or two when I first bring the network
online.  The idea being that they will identify any potential problem
areas and serve as contacts for new customers who would like to talk to
someone who has been using the service for a while.  I was planning on
sending letters to potential pilot program members, but I'm not sure if
that will be the best technique.  Any suggestions?  My ISP will be serving
small/medium businesses in an area with existing broadband technologies. 
Our emphasis will be on reliability and customer support.

Once the pilot program is active, I was planning on using direct mailings,
door hangers, and other direct communication methods to target potential
customers.  I anticipate the hardest part will be "getting my foot in the
door".  I like the idea of a parking lot demo, but how to convince the
people to take time out of their days to see the equipment is the
question.  Ideas?

Patrick


> Gentlemen;
>
> I am in the final stages of design and have begun to guild my WISP.  I was
> wondering what the most effective methods were for marketing?
>
> I was thinking of using the mail, possibly arranging a demo in a parking
> lot, flyers, and of course adding my company name to the lists on the
> internet.
>
> Lee
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