Re: [WISPA] OT Hotmail email black hole

2009-07-20 Thread Marco Coelho
We block all port 25 on our residential network. It really cut down on this problem. We also don't allow simple passwords on our mail server. If it doesn't go through our mail server, it doesn't go. Here's a very handy de-listing site for various mail servers.

Re: [WISPA] OT Hotmail email black hole

2009-07-10 Thread Ryan Ghering
Marlon, That is a weekly ordeal for ourselves. Customers that don't update Anti-virus or goto questionable sites get botnets that spam the world. Hotmail/MSN/LIVE is the first to block you. Getting off their blacklists is nearly impossible unless you follow thier rules even then it takes weeks.

Re: [WISPA] OT Hotmail email black hole

2009-07-10 Thread David E. Smith
Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Contacting Hotmail has been nearly useless. They've simply told me to go join a special program that they have and that'll get my system ok'd again. Which one? They probably want you to sign up for Smart Network Data Services, which is free and has decent automated

Re: [WISPA] OT Hotmail email black hole

2009-07-10 Thread Kevin Neal
I think they confuse the delete button with the spam button over there at AOL. -Kevin On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:29 AM, David E. Smithd...@mvn.net wrote: Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Contacting Hotmail has been nearly useless.  They've simply told me to go join a special program that they have

Re: [WISPA] OT Hotmail email black hole

2009-07-10 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
OK, I held my nose and signed up. We'll see what happens. thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:12 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Hotmail email black hole Marlon

Re: [WISPA] OT Hotmail email black hole

2009-07-10 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
@wispa.org Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Hotmail email black hole Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Contacting Hotmail has been nearly useless. They've simply told me to go join a special program that they have and that'll get my system ok'd again. Which one

Re: [WISPA] OT Hotmail email black hole

2009-07-10 Thread Scott Lambert
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 09:23:56AM -0700, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I just did the snds signup. What a joke though. We're an ISP, it's easy to see that. We don't do spam unless a customer gets a virus or something like it, that's also easy to see. Easy for a human to see. Not so easy for an

Re: [WISPA] OT Hotmail email black hole

2009-07-10 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Can you give more detail as to what requirements were placed on you? With more details I might be able to help you. I was tier-4 at MSN/Hotmail/Passport for a bit. (these services are now called Live, or Bing, or whatever they call them this week!) ryan Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All,

Re: [WISPA] OT Hotmail email black hole

2009-07-10 Thread Bradley D. Thornton
Hi Ryan, I don't know if hotmail ranks as #1 anymore. I get a lot of trash from gmail nowadays ;) pls see additional comments below... Ryan Ghering wrote: We had to subscribe to the Smart Network Data Services Program. https://postmaster.live.com/snds/ Then follow the rules listed. I hated

[WISPA] OT Hotmail email black hole

2009-07-09 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Hi All, Hotmail has put us on some kind of black list. Messages from my servers to anyone with a hotmail (or affiliate) address is being sent into oblivion. Contacting Hotmail has been nearly useless. They've simply told me to go join a special program that they have and that'll get my