Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-13 Thread Stuart Pierce
I apologize, but WT% !?!? What and where is the documentation about this change to USF, the plan to put WISP's out of business once and for all. Who in their right mind would be in or start a WISP, when it's crazy enough already ? May as well fine Gilbert for calling Lebron James names when he

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-13 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 7/13/2010 09:17 AM, Stuart Pierce wrote: I apologize, but WT% !?!? What and where is the documentation about this change to USF, the plan to put WISP's out of business once and for all. Who in their right mind would be in or start a WISP, when it's crazy enough already ? The problem with

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-13 Thread MDK
...@hostmedic.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 8:39 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line That was my question. I would love to find a way to get $300K to build a number of towers around - and then a few thousand per subscriber per

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-13 Thread Mike
And chicks for free? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line If you did, how would you

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-13 Thread Mike
But, then you'd be in dire straights! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:17 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line And chicks

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-13 Thread Andy Hull
: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line And chicks for free? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-13 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 13 July 2010 11:18, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: But, then you'd be in dire straights! But you would have one hell of a Telegraph Road to show for it though! WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-13 Thread RickG
Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line That was my question. I would love to find a way to get $300K to build a number of towers around - and then a few thousand per subscriber per year to give them VOIP and Internet... - but then again I guess we all would Something however for us to use

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-13 Thread Glenn Kelley
, July 12, 2010 8:39 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line That was my question. I would love to find a way to get $300K to build a number of towers around - and then a few thousand per subscriber per year to give them

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-13 Thread Fred Goldstein
++ -- From: Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 8:39 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line That was my question. I would love

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-13 Thread MDK
List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line You beat me to it Mark. In the end, history will show that the free government money attitude is what was at the root of our country's downfall. Most WISP's are built on independance. We should fight

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-13 Thread Jerry Richardson
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line I dunno what it is about my personality, but I really, REALLY hate collecting money.I hate asking for it.I hate setting prices. I always look at it as if I were the customer, and what would things be like

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-13 Thread Christopher Erickson
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line I dunno what it is about my personality, but I really, REALLY hate collecting money.I hate asking for it.I hate setting prices. I always look at it as if I were the customer, and what would things be like

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-13 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 15:50, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I always look at it as if I were the customer, and what would things be like if it were ME paying the bill.Maybe that's the wrong attitude, because honestly, it tends to make me undercharge.Objectively, you have to

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-13 Thread Ryan Spott
++ -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:52 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line You beat me to it Mark. In the end, history will show that the free

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-13 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
, 2010 8:52 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line You beat me to it Mark. In the end, history will show that the free government money attitude is what was at the root of our country's downfall. Most WISP's are built

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-13 Thread RickG
-8200  509-386-4589 ++ -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:52 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line You beat me

[WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-12 Thread Glenn Kelley
Yeah - Imagine that.$17,763 per line!I wish I had their grant writer on staff ! Via: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/07/rural-telco-serves-17-people-rakes-in-300k-of-your-money.ars ATT was insanely profitable in 2009, with $34.4 billion in revenue and $12.5 billion

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-12 Thread RickG
Your World - Delivered! On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Yeah - Imagine that.    $17,763 per line!    I wish I had their grant writer on staff ! Via:  

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-12 Thread Jack Unger
So how can WISPs get a share of the USF funds that will be redirected to broadband? Noodle me that... Glenn Kelley wrote: Yeah - Imagine that.    $17,763 per line!    I wish I had their grant writer on staff ! Via:  

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-12 Thread Glenn Kelley
That was my question. I would love to find a way to get $300K to build a number of towers around - and then a few thousand per subscriber per year to give them VOIP and Internet... - but then again I guess we all would Something however for us to use perhaps as Fodder to show why we should

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-12 Thread Chuck Hogg
Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line That was my question. I would love to find a way to get $300K

Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

2010-07-12 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 7/13/2010 12:31 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: That's a double edged sword... You don't pay into USF currently as WISP's are not classified as such. Then if we are, we'd have a hard time at it, but we'd be eligible for those funds. Try again, Chuck. The pending FCC proposal is a bit worse, where bit