Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...
I have no idea, but there's a frial trial period. I'm still waiting on my E70, but I plan on trying it out as soon as it gets here. I was just curious if anyone else had played with it yet. On 1/25/07, paul hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope. Does it add a tab key as this seems to be the only thing missing from the free Putty. -Original Message- From: Chad Halsted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 January 2007 01:41 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness... have you tried mobile ssh? On 1/24/07, paul hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running putty on my E70. Is great to be on a roof with mobile in one hand whilst you pan your StarOS or Mikrotik cpe ;) Only down side seems to be the lack of a tab key. -Original Message- From: Chad Halsted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 January 2007 19:32 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness... Matt, Have you had a chance to play with SSH utilities. I'm looking for the same phone and have heard others using it to SSH into their Star-OS boxes with good success. Mobile SSH has a free trial and should work with the E70. On 1/22/07, Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was finally time to replace my Nokia 6800 with 600 hours and a broken screen from being dropped too many times, so I decided to get a Nokia E70 phone. It has been a little bit of a challenge, but it is pretty close to cell phone nirvana. It has been able to do I have wanted to accomplish with a PDA or cell phone combined. The first main issue was getting the phone contacts/calendar/notes synchronized with my PC. My previous phone was extremely flaky when used with the Nokia PC Suite software, and only connected about one in every 10 times. I had to install, reinstall, run a registry cleaner and then reinstall the software but I was finally able to get a reliable connection between my PC and phone. Once accomplished, I was able to get all of my items synced up in a repeatable, reliable fashion. With all their available resources, I am amazed that Nokia was not able to this process worked out better. The second item was seeing how Internet access worked on the phone. GPRS seems to work fine, but I was more interested in the wifi connectivity feature of the phone. The E70 will browse for an available access point and the process for connecting is pretty straightforward. I have to pass on huge props for the Internet browser on the E70. I would prefer using the smaller screen E70 browser than the browser on all of the PocketPCs that I have used. It is that good. It was reliable, viewable, easy to navigate and there have been no weird format surprises. All told - the Internet access components work very well. I have not gotten the instant messaging to work yet, but it looks like other have, so I will still have that to work on. The last and most interesting piece was the struggle to get VOIP working on a cell phone. My cell coverage at my house and many other places in my service area is very spotty, so I have been looking forward to having a phone that could roam to wifi and keep my roaming minutes down to a minimum. I was able to find a couple of links to guides on how to set the phone up with an asterisk voip server and was finally able to get it to connect to my office voip phone system. After all the hassles and reported problems on user forums, I was very pleasantly surprised by the performance of the voip part of the E70. It is actually clearer than regular cell calls, with just a little bit of breakup when the wifi signal gets low. Best of all, my outgoing calls all go through my office system when I am in range of a wifi access point, meaning less minutes on my cell phone plan. I should also be able to use the voip when I go to remote tower sites that used to not work at all on the regular cell network or incurred roaming charges. All in all, I am very impressed with the E70. I am going to officially retire my iPaqs to other tasks and use this as my primary PIM/phone/voip phone. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com PS - I purchased my E70 from Tiger Direct for about $435, but they are also available at voip-supply.com for $385. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chad Halsted The Computer Works Conway, AR www.tcworks.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chad Halsted The Computer
RE: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...
Nope. Does it add a tab key as this seems to be the only thing missing from the free Putty. -Original Message- From: Chad Halsted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 January 2007 01:41 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness... have you tried mobile ssh? On 1/24/07, paul hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running putty on my E70. Is great to be on a roof with mobile in one hand whilst you pan your StarOS or Mikrotik cpe ;) Only down side seems to be the lack of a tab key. -Original Message- From: Chad Halsted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 January 2007 19:32 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness... Matt, Have you had a chance to play with SSH utilities. I'm looking for the same phone and have heard others using it to SSH into their Star-OS boxes with good success. Mobile SSH has a free trial and should work with the E70. On 1/22/07, Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was finally time to replace my Nokia 6800 with 600 hours and a broken screen from being dropped too many times, so I decided to get a Nokia E70 phone. It has been a little bit of a challenge, but it is pretty close to cell phone nirvana. It has been able to do I have wanted to accomplish with a PDA or cell phone combined. The first main issue was getting the phone contacts/calendar/notes synchronized with my PC. My previous phone was extremely flaky when used with the Nokia PC Suite software, and only connected about one in every 10 times. I had to install, reinstall, run a registry cleaner and then reinstall the software but I was finally able to get a reliable connection between my PC and phone. Once accomplished, I was able to get all of my items synced up in a repeatable, reliable fashion. With all their available resources, I am amazed that Nokia was not able to this process worked out better. The second item was seeing how Internet access worked on the phone. GPRS seems to work fine, but I was more interested in the wifi connectivity feature of the phone. The E70 will browse for an available access point and the process for connecting is pretty straightforward. I have to pass on huge props for the Internet browser on the E70. I would prefer using the smaller screen E70 browser than the browser on all of the PocketPCs that I have used. It is that good. It was reliable, viewable, easy to navigate and there have been no weird format surprises. All told - the Internet access components work very well. I have not gotten the instant messaging to work yet, but it looks like other have, so I will still have that to work on. The last and most interesting piece was the struggle to get VOIP working on a cell phone. My cell coverage at my house and many other places in my service area is very spotty, so I have been looking forward to having a phone that could roam to wifi and keep my roaming minutes down to a minimum. I was able to find a couple of links to guides on how to set the phone up with an asterisk voip server and was finally able to get it to connect to my office voip phone system. After all the hassles and reported problems on user forums, I was very pleasantly surprised by the performance of the voip part of the E70. It is actually clearer than regular cell calls, with just a little bit of breakup when the wifi signal gets low. Best of all, my outgoing calls all go through my office system when I am in range of a wifi access point, meaning less minutes on my cell phone plan. I should also be able to use the voip when I go to remote tower sites that used to not work at all on the regular cell network or incurred roaming charges. All in all, I am very impressed with the E70. I am going to officially retire my iPaqs to other tasks and use this as my primary PIM/phone/voip phone. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com PS - I purchased my E70 from Tiger Direct for about $435, but they are also available at voip-supply.com for $385. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chad Halsted The Computer Works Conway, AR www.tcworks.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chad Halsted The Computer Works Conway, AR www.tcworks.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless
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I'm running putty on my E70. Is great to be on a roof with mobile in one hand whilst you pan your StarOS or Mikrotik cpe ;) Only down side seems to be the lack of a tab key. -Original Message- From: Chad Halsted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 January 2007 19:32 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness... Matt, Have you had a chance to play with SSH utilities. I'm looking for the same phone and have heard others using it to SSH into their Star-OS boxes with good success. Mobile SSH has a free trial and should work with the E70. On 1/22/07, Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was finally time to replace my Nokia 6800 with 600 hours and a broken screen from being dropped too many times, so I decided to get a Nokia E70 phone. It has been a little bit of a challenge, but it is pretty close to cell phone nirvana. It has been able to do I have wanted to accomplish with a PDA or cell phone combined. The first main issue was getting the phone contacts/calendar/notes synchronized with my PC. My previous phone was extremely flaky when used with the Nokia PC Suite software, and only connected about one in every 10 times. I had to install, reinstall, run a registry cleaner and then reinstall the software but I was finally able to get a reliable connection between my PC and phone. Once accomplished, I was able to get all of my items synced up in a repeatable, reliable fashion. With all their available resources, I am amazed that Nokia was not able to this process worked out better. The second item was seeing how Internet access worked on the phone. GPRS seems to work fine, but I was more interested in the wifi connectivity feature of the phone. The E70 will browse for an available access point and the process for connecting is pretty straightforward. I have to pass on huge props for the Internet browser on the E70. I would prefer using the smaller screen E70 browser than the browser on all of the PocketPCs that I have used. It is that good. It was reliable, viewable, easy to navigate and there have been no weird format surprises. All told - the Internet access components work very well. I have not gotten the instant messaging to work yet, but it looks like other have, so I will still have that to work on. The last and most interesting piece was the struggle to get VOIP working on a cell phone. My cell coverage at my house and many other places in my service area is very spotty, so I have been looking forward to having a phone that could roam to wifi and keep my roaming minutes down to a minimum. I was able to find a couple of links to guides on how to set the phone up with an asterisk voip server and was finally able to get it to connect to my office voip phone system. After all the hassles and reported problems on user forums, I was very pleasantly surprised by the performance of the voip part of the E70. It is actually clearer than regular cell calls, with just a little bit of breakup when the wifi signal gets low. Best of all, my outgoing calls all go through my office system when I am in range of a wifi access point, meaning less minutes on my cell phone plan. I should also be able to use the voip when I go to remote tower sites that used to not work at all on the regular cell network or incurred roaming charges. All in all, I am very impressed with the E70. I am going to officially retire my iPaqs to other tasks and use this as my primary PIM/phone/voip phone. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com PS - I purchased my E70 from Tiger Direct for about $435, but they are also available at voip-supply.com for $385. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chad Halsted The Computer Works Conway, AR www.tcworks.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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have you tried mobile ssh? On 1/24/07, paul hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running putty on my E70. Is great to be on a roof with mobile in one hand whilst you pan your StarOS or Mikrotik cpe ;) Only down side seems to be the lack of a tab key. -Original Message- From: Chad Halsted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 January 2007 19:32 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness... Matt, Have you had a chance to play with SSH utilities. I'm looking for the same phone and have heard others using it to SSH into their Star-OS boxes with good success. Mobile SSH has a free trial and should work with the E70. On 1/22/07, Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was finally time to replace my Nokia 6800 with 600 hours and a broken screen from being dropped too many times, so I decided to get a Nokia E70 phone. It has been a little bit of a challenge, but it is pretty close to cell phone nirvana. It has been able to do I have wanted to accomplish with a PDA or cell phone combined. The first main issue was getting the phone contacts/calendar/notes synchronized with my PC. My previous phone was extremely flaky when used with the Nokia PC Suite software, and only connected about one in every 10 times. I had to install, reinstall, run a registry cleaner and then reinstall the software but I was finally able to get a reliable connection between my PC and phone. Once accomplished, I was able to get all of my items synced up in a repeatable, reliable fashion. With all their available resources, I am amazed that Nokia was not able to this process worked out better. The second item was seeing how Internet access worked on the phone. GPRS seems to work fine, but I was more interested in the wifi connectivity feature of the phone. The E70 will browse for an available access point and the process for connecting is pretty straightforward. I have to pass on huge props for the Internet browser on the E70. I would prefer using the smaller screen E70 browser than the browser on all of the PocketPCs that I have used. It is that good. It was reliable, viewable, easy to navigate and there have been no weird format surprises. All told - the Internet access components work very well. I have not gotten the instant messaging to work yet, but it looks like other have, so I will still have that to work on. The last and most interesting piece was the struggle to get VOIP working on a cell phone. My cell coverage at my house and many other places in my service area is very spotty, so I have been looking forward to having a phone that could roam to wifi and keep my roaming minutes down to a minimum. I was able to find a couple of links to guides on how to set the phone up with an asterisk voip server and was finally able to get it to connect to my office voip phone system. After all the hassles and reported problems on user forums, I was very pleasantly surprised by the performance of the voip part of the E70. It is actually clearer than regular cell calls, with just a little bit of breakup when the wifi signal gets low. Best of all, my outgoing calls all go through my office system when I am in range of a wifi access point, meaning less minutes on my cell phone plan. I should also be able to use the voip when I go to remote tower sites that used to not work at all on the regular cell network or incurred roaming charges. All in all, I am very impressed with the E70. I am going to officially retire my iPaqs to other tasks and use this as my primary PIM/phone/voip phone. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com PS - I purchased my E70 from Tiger Direct for about $435, but they are also available at voip-supply.com for $385. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chad Halsted The Computer Works Conway, AR www.tcworks.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chad Halsted The Computer Works Conway, AR www.tcworks.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I personally use the Motorola A1200 or Ming, its not available in the US , but you can get it through Ebay. Its Linux based, so lots of goodies for it around. It GSM/GPRS Quad band, Bluetooth and all touchscreen based like the Iphone... Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Comroe Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness... Absolutely amazing how many windows phones have come out in the last few months. Just 12 months ago there were only 3 ... and now there's got'ta be dozens. I love my PPC6700 so much I bought a 2nd one ... EVDO / RTT1X / IS95 tri-mode, bluetooth, wifi, camera, added a couple GB on mini-SD, slide-out full keyboard, huge screen. Got Microsoft VC++ enterprise ... it comes with windows mobile 5 development environment. But I was disappointed at how stripped down the windows mobile version of MFC was. If you can get one without the neutered OS you'll be happier. The carriers have stripped key networking components of the OS to keep you from using your phone as a wifi access point for nearby laptops. I've got the original fully capable OS and it's amazing what you can do. If you see a pop-up that says a newer version of OS is available, click here ... DON'T!!! It's a neutered version from your carrier (not from Microsoft) which removes specific dial-up networking components to limit your abilities. You mention Linux as the preferred platform. My old Moto buddies tell me Moto offered a Linux based phone platform for 2 whole years and NOBODY stepped up for developing applications ... so Moto abandonned it switching to Windows to launch the Q phone. I think it casts doubt whether the market really wanted a Linux platform phone. I mean, when you offer a supported Linux product and nobody gives a hoot ... what would you conclude? Rich - Original Message - From: Steve Stroh To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness... Apparently Nokia is now out with the N800, the successor to the 770. I don't have techno-lust details yet - look for yourself at http:// www.nseries.com/products/n800/#l=products,n800, but friends tell me it fixes the weaknesses of the 770, and is the preferred Linux hacking platform (cool open source stuff coming out for it) for portable Internet-connected devices. One of the funnier... cooler... things I've seen of late is Bluetooth GPS devices. One I saw REALLY impressed me - it was deep inside a restaurant, but was still able to get a fix from the windows more than 20' away. Thanks, Steve On Jan 22, 2007, at Jan 22 10:49 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Matt, It's funny you posted this message today I just picked up a new test phone I am trying to replace my Treo 650. I grabbed an HP iPaq 6945 from Cingular for $189 (with two year contract) and have been playing with it on an off for the last couple of days. The biggest advantage to this phone is the built-in GPS, along with WiFi and Bluetooth. There are some neat functions that are already built-in to the main OS... such as the camera showing GPS coordinates on the picture when you take it (if you enable that option). Also, many commercial map programs (TomTom 6, etc.) work on this phone with the GPS. With a simple car mount and car adapter, you have a full-fledged GPS device built into your phone. There are also programs that will connect to WiFi and update GPS coordinates to a website... so you could have real-time locations for your installers with no monthly fee. ;) It's running Windows Mobile 5, which is better than any other Windows phone OS I have used, but still not as easy to navigate as the Palm OS. The biggest feature on the Treo 650 for me is the SMS messaging. It's easy to access (single button) and it keeps a chat dialog going with each person you have talked to. I send and receive over 100 messages per day, sometimes 200-300. It's quick, easy, and can be done with one hand. If there was just a simple program that would function the same, the iPaq could be a great phone for me. I should also mention I purchased a Nokia 770 Internet Tablet. This is a pretty cool device as well built in WiFi and Bluetooth, running Linux with a nice GUI. Nice wide, bright screen too. It just doesn't have a phone or GPS, just WiFi. Still pretty cool for that type of a device. Travis Microserv --- Steve Stroh 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.stevestroh.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives
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OK, Since we are on this topic?. I picked up a Samsung BlackJack about a week ago, and to this point, I have some very mixed emotions?. I used to have an old Palm PDA and I carried my cell phone, so You can understand that trying to go to one device was a no brainer?. I love the look and feel of the phone, as it is a LOT slimmer than a Treo or Blackberry and the bluetooth headset and built in speaker phone makes it a breeze to talk and work, drive etc. while on the phone. The screen is nice and bright, and since it runs Windows mobile 5, it is fairly familiar when You look at the screen and the way it interacts with the user. The on board camera works great and takes wonderful photos after You get the settings right(1.4 MegaPixel). Now for the bad stuff!. It EATS batteries. Samsung must be aware of this?, as they shipped it out with 2 batt. in the box. If You leave the house with a fresh batt. installed, You can bet that it will almost be out of juice by the time You walk in the door at night?, so if You are a true road warrior?, You may be screwed without a spot to plug in the charger during the day?.. It also comes with a data/modem cable that allows You to sync. the phone with Outlook on Your desktop. It even ships with a registered copy of Outlook and the key so You can do a fresh install. All of that would be great if I could just get the [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone to sync with the Outlook program!.To this point?, it is a no-go!. Another negative is that You can only edit Your appointment settings on the desk top computer. If You are on the road and want to edit or add a new event or appointment?, FORGET IT!. You will have to write it on a piece of paper and enter it when You get back to the PC. THAT IS STUPID! Even though it touts being an MP3 player, You still need to install a microSD card for storage(extra expense) AND there is no 1/8 phone jack for head phones???. If You want head phones?, You have to buy a proprietary setup from Samsung and it plugs into the same port as the data cable. What this means is that if You are on the plane and You want to listen to music, thats great?, but don't forget, You will also need to charge the batt. at some point, and You CAN NOT do both, unless You pack the spare batt. along to every place You go AND the portable charger that uses a 110AC outlet and a small black charger box. Patrick Leary wrote: Nice OT thread guys; I am learning and hope others chime in. Patrick Leary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness... Matt, It's funny you posted this message today I just picked up a new test phone I am trying to replace my Treo 650. I grabbed an HP iPaq 6945 from Cingular for $189 (with two year contract) and have been playing with it on an off for the last couple of days. The biggest advantage to this phone is the built-in GPS, along with WiFi and Bluetooth. There are some neat functions that are already built-in to the main OS... such as the camera showing GPS coordinates on the picture when you take it (if you enable that option). Also, many commercial map programs (TomTom 6, etc.) work on this phone with the GPS. With a simple car mount and car adapter, you have a full-fledged GPS device built into your phone. There are also programs that will connect to WiFi and update GPS coordinates to a website... so you could have real-time locations for your installers with no monthly fee. ;) It's running Windows Mobile 5, which is better than any other Windows phone OS I have used, but still not as easy to navigate as the Palm OS. The biggest feature on the Treo 650 for me is the SMS messaging. It's easy to access (single button) and it keeps a chat dialog going with each person you have talked to. I send and receive over 100 messages per day, sometimes 200-300. It's quick, easy, and can be done with one hand. If there was just a simple program that would function the same, the iPaq could be a great phone for me. I should also mention I purchased a Nokia 770 Internet Tablet. This is a pretty cool device as well built in WiFi and Bluetooth, running Linux with a nice GUI. Nice wide, bright screen too. It just doesn't have a phone or GPS, just WiFi. Still pretty cool for that type of a device. Travis Microserv Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: It was finally time to replace my Nokia 6800 with 600 hours and a broken screen from being dropped too many times, so I decided to get a Nokia E70 phone. It has been a little bit of a challenge, but it is pretty close to cell phone nirvana. It has been able to do I have wanted to accomplish with a PDA or cell phone combined. The first main issue was getting the phone contacts/calendar/notes synchronized with my PC. My previous phone was extremely flaky when used
Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...
Matt, Have you had a chance to play with SSH utilities. I'm looking for the same phone and have heard others using it to SSH into their Star-OS boxes with good success. Mobile SSH has a free trial and should work with the E70. On 1/22/07, Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was finally time to replace my Nokia 6800 with 600 hours and a broken screen from being dropped too many times, so I decided to get a Nokia E70 phone. It has been a little bit of a challenge, but it is pretty close to cell phone nirvana. It has been able to do I have wanted to accomplish with a PDA or cell phone combined. The first main issue was getting the phone contacts/calendar/notes synchronized with my PC. My previous phone was extremely flaky when used with the Nokia PC Suite software, and only connected about one in every 10 times. I had to install, reinstall, run a registry cleaner and then reinstall the software but I was finally able to get a reliable connection between my PC and phone. Once accomplished, I was able to get all of my items synced up in a repeatable, reliable fashion. With all their available resources, I am amazed that Nokia was not able to this process worked out better. The second item was seeing how Internet access worked on the phone. GPRS seems to work fine, but I was more interested in the wifi connectivity feature of the phone. The E70 will browse for an available access point and the process for connecting is pretty straightforward. I have to pass on huge props for the Internet browser on the E70. I would prefer using the smaller screen E70 browser than the browser on all of the PocketPCs that I have used. It is that good. It was reliable, viewable, easy to navigate and there have been no weird format surprises. All told - the Internet access components work very well. I have not gotten the instant messaging to work yet, but it looks like other have, so I will still have that to work on. The last and most interesting piece was the struggle to get VOIP working on a cell phone. My cell coverage at my house and many other places in my service area is very spotty, so I have been looking forward to having a phone that could roam to wifi and keep my roaming minutes down to a minimum. I was able to find a couple of links to guides on how to set the phone up with an asterisk voip server and was finally able to get it to connect to my office voip phone system. After all the hassles and reported problems on user forums, I was very pleasantly surprised by the performance of the voip part of the E70. It is actually clearer than regular cell calls, with just a little bit of breakup when the wifi signal gets low. Best of all, my outgoing calls all go through my office system when I am in range of a wifi access point, meaning less minutes on my cell phone plan. I should also be able to use the voip when I go to remote tower sites that used to not work at all on the regular cell network or incurred roaming charges. All in all, I am very impressed with the E70. I am going to officially retire my iPaqs to other tasks and use this as my primary PIM/phone/voip phone. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com PS - I purchased my E70 from Tiger Direct for about $435, but they are also available at voip-supply.com for $385. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chad Halsted The Computer Works Conway, AR www.tcworks.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...
I have been using the E70 for a while and it is great. It has all the features of the E61 (sip, wifi, etc) but it also has a camera and flips open to reveal a full qwerty keyboard which I found really quick to get use to. Add an SSH client and I can suddenly manage almost every aspect of my network with only my mobile. Convergence is a wonderful thing ;) -Original Message- From: Jonathan Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 January 2007 19:47 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness... I'm trying the Nokia E61 (same as Cingular's E62 but without being crippled by Cingular turning off the Wi-Fi and 3G support). It's very good, too. You can get them on ebay unlocked and just put your Cingular SIM into it. It's thinner than the Ipaq but no camera. It seems to go forever on a single charge and doesn't cause pain when I sit down with it in my pocket. It has a SIP phone client and I use it at any Wi-Fi to access my home Asterisk VoIP server...free. I can see why Cingular wanted to cripple this feature since, in Europe; I no longer pay $1.35 a minute but $0 a minute. I can put 4 or 5 full length DVDs in it's accessory memory to watch while waiting in airports. I can also keep all our PDF and WORD and POWERPOINT collateral in it and have it ready for display or copying to somebody's PC. It doesn't have internal GPS so I use a $60 lipstick-sized Bluetooth GPS http://www.holux.com/product/search.htm?filename=gpsreceiver_bluetooth_index .htmtarget=gpsreceiver0level=grandson accessory that I place on my dash of the car to get solid satellite lock while I have he display near my eyes. This tiny GPS thingymajig goes 8 hours on a charge but has a car charger and USB (from laptop) charger. If you use it with your laptop you can link to Microsoft Streets and Trips. You can get a pretty good mapping application for most phones with internal or external GPS for free: http://www.nav4all.com/site2/www.nav4all.com/eng/index.php It has mapping and talking directions, too. It covers a lot of the world...amazing. ...and, this phone doesn't crash all the time like my Palm used to. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 1:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness... Nice OT thread guys; I am learning and hope others chime in. Patrick Leary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness... Matt, It's funny you posted this message today I just picked up a new test phone I am trying to replace my Treo 650. I grabbed an HP iPaq 6945 from Cingular for $189 (with two year contract) and have been playing with it on an off for the last couple of days. The biggest advantage to this phone is the built-in GPS, along with WiFi and Bluetooth. There are some neat functions that are already built-in to the main OS... such as the camera showing GPS coordinates on the picture when you take it (if you enable that option). Also, many commercial map programs (TomTom 6, etc.) work on this phone with the GPS. With a simple car mount and car adapter, you have a full-fledged GPS device built into your phone. There are also programs that will connect to WiFi and update GPS coordinates to a website... so you could have real-time locations for your installers with no monthly fee. ;) It's running Windows Mobile 5, which is better than any other Windows phone OS I have used, but still not as easy to navigate as the Palm OS. The biggest feature on the Treo 650 for me is the SMS messaging. It's easy to access (single button) and it keeps a chat dialog going with each person you have talked to. I send and receive over 100 messages per day, sometimes 200-300. It's quick, easy, and can be done with one hand. If there was just a simple program that would function the same, the iPaq could be a great phone for me. I should also mention I purchased a Nokia 770 Internet Tablet. This is a pretty cool device as well built in WiFi and Bluetooth, running Linux with a nice GUI. Nice wide, bright screen too. It just doesn't have a phone or GPS, just WiFi. Still pretty cool for that type of a device. Travis Microserv Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: It was finally time to replace my Nokia 6800 with 600 hours and a broken screen from being dropped too many times, so I decided to get a Nokia E70 phone. It has been a little bit of a challenge, but it is pretty close to cell phone nirvana. It has been able to do I have wanted to accomplish with a PDA or cell phone combined. The first main issue was getting the phone contacts/calendar/notes synchronized with my PC. My previous phone was extremely flaky when used with the Nokia PC Suite software
Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...
Apparently Nokia is now out with the N800, the successor to the 770. I don't have techno-lust details yet - look for yourself at http:// www.nseries.com/products/n800/#l=products,n800, but friends tell me it fixes the weaknesses of the 770, and is the preferred Linux hacking platform (cool open source stuff coming out for it) for portable Internet-connected devices. One of the funnier... cooler... things I've seen of late is Bluetooth GPS devices. One I saw REALLY impressed me - it was deep inside a restaurant, but was still able to get a fix from the windows more than 20' away. Thanks, Steve On Jan 22, 2007, at Jan 22 10:49 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Matt, It's funny you posted this message today I just picked up a new test phone I am trying to replace my Treo 650. I grabbed an HP iPaq 6945 from Cingular for $189 (with two year contract) and have been playing with it on an off for the last couple of days. The biggest advantage to this phone is the built-in GPS, along with WiFi and Bluetooth. There are some neat functions that are already built-in to the main OS... such as the camera showing GPS coordinates on the picture when you take it (if you enable that option). Also, many commercial map programs (TomTom 6, etc.) work on this phone with the GPS. With a simple car mount and car adapter, you have a full-fledged GPS device built into your phone. There are also programs that will connect to WiFi and update GPS coordinates to a website... so you could have real-time locations for your installers with no monthly fee. ;) It's running Windows Mobile 5, which is better than any other Windows phone OS I have used, but still not as easy to navigate as the Palm OS. The biggest feature on the Treo 650 for me is the SMS messaging. It's easy to access (single button) and it keeps a chat dialog going with each person you have talked to. I send and receive over 100 messages per day, sometimes 200-300. It's quick, easy, and can be done with one hand. If there was just a simple program that would function the same, the iPaq could be a great phone for me. I should also mention I purchased a Nokia 770 Internet Tablet. This is a pretty cool device as well built in WiFi and Bluetooth, running Linux with a nice GUI. Nice wide, bright screen too. It just doesn't have a phone or GPS, just WiFi. Still pretty cool for that type of a device. Travis Microserv --- Steve Stroh 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.stevestroh.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...
Absolutely amazing how many windows phones have come out in the last few months. Just 12 months ago there were only 3 ... and now there's got'ta be dozens. I love my PPC6700 so much I bought a 2nd one ... EVDO / RTT1X / IS95 tri-mode, bluetooth, wifi, camera, added a couple GB on mini-SD, slide-out full keyboard, huge screen. Got Microsoft VC++ enterprise ... it comes with windows mobile 5 development environment. But I was disappointed at how stripped down the windows mobile version of MFC was. If you can get one without the neutered OS you'll be happier. The carriers have stripped key networking components of the OS to keep you from using your phone as a wifi access point for nearby laptops. I've got the original fully capable OS and it's amazing what you can do. If you see a pop-up that says a newer version of OS is available, click here ... DON'T!!! It's a neutered version from your carrier (not from Microsoft) which removes specific dial-up networking components to limit your abilities. You mention Linux as the preferred platform. My old Moto buddies tell me Moto offered a Linux based phone platform for 2 whole years and NOBODY stepped up for developing applications ... so Moto abandonned it switching to Windows to launch the Q phone. I think it casts doubt whether the market really wanted a Linux platform phone. I mean, when you offer a supported Linux product and nobody gives a hoot ... what would you conclude? Rich - Original Message - From: Steve Stroh To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness... Apparently Nokia is now out with the N800, the successor to the 770. I don't have techno-lust details yet - look for yourself at http:// www.nseries.com/products/n800/#l=products,n800, but friends tell me it fixes the weaknesses of the 770, and is the preferred Linux hacking platform (cool open source stuff coming out for it) for portable Internet-connected devices. One of the funnier... cooler... things I've seen of late is Bluetooth GPS devices. One I saw REALLY impressed me - it was deep inside a restaurant, but was still able to get a fix from the windows more than 20' away. Thanks, Steve On Jan 22, 2007, at Jan 22 10:49 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Matt, It's funny you posted this message today I just picked up a new test phone I am trying to replace my Treo 650. I grabbed an HP iPaq 6945 from Cingular for $189 (with two year contract) and have been playing with it on an off for the last couple of days. The biggest advantage to this phone is the built-in GPS, along with WiFi and Bluetooth. There are some neat functions that are already built-in to the main OS... such as the camera showing GPS coordinates on the picture when you take it (if you enable that option). Also, many commercial map programs (TomTom 6, etc.) work on this phone with the GPS. With a simple car mount and car adapter, you have a full-fledged GPS device built into your phone. There are also programs that will connect to WiFi and update GPS coordinates to a website... so you could have real-time locations for your installers with no monthly fee. ;) It's running Windows Mobile 5, which is better than any other Windows phone OS I have used, but still not as easy to navigate as the Palm OS. The biggest feature on the Treo 650 for me is the SMS messaging. It's easy to access (single button) and it keeps a chat dialog going with each person you have talked to. I send and receive over 100 messages per day, sometimes 200-300. It's quick, easy, and can be done with one hand. If there was just a simple program that would function the same, the iPaq could be a great phone for me. I should also mention I purchased a Nokia 770 Internet Tablet. This is a pretty cool device as well built in WiFi and Bluetooth, running Linux with a nice GUI. Nice wide, bright screen too. It just doesn't have a phone or GPS, just WiFi. Still pretty cool for that type of a device. Travis Microserv --- Steve Stroh 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.stevestroh.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...
Yes, that looks like a great phone... even running Windows... ;) Has anyone seen or come across a better SMS program for Windows Mobile? The SMS client on the Palm 650 is the best I have seen... it puts each incoming and outgoing message in a chat format for each person... so you have history for each person, and can immediately click on their conversation and send a message. It makes messaging very quick and easy... two button presses (one to get into SMS, one to select the person) and you can start typing the message... but I can't find anything for Windows Mobile that will do even close to the same. Travis Microserv Rich Comroe wrote: Absolutely amazing how many windows phones have come out in the last few months. Just 12 months ago there were only 3 ... and now there's got'ta be dozens. I love my PPC6700 so much I bought a 2nd one ... EVDO / RTT1X / IS95 tri-mode, bluetooth, wifi, camera, added a couple GB on mini-SD, slide-out full keyboard, huge screen. Got Microsoft VC++ enterprise ... it comes with windows mobile 5 development environment. But I was disappointed at how stripped down the windows mobile version of MFC was. If you can get one without the neutered OS you'll be happier. The carriers have stripped key networking components of the OS to keep you from using your phone as a wifi access point for nearby laptops. I've got the original fully capable OS and it's amazing what you can do. If you see a pop-up that says a newer version of OS is available, click here ... DON'T!!! It's a neutered version from your carrier (not from Microsoft) which removes specific dial-up networking components to limit your abilities. You mention Linux as the preferred platform. My old Moto buddies tell me Moto offered a Linux based phone platform for 2 whole years and NOBODY stepped up for developing applications ... so Moto abandonned it switching to Windows to launch the Q phone. I think it casts doubt whether the market really wanted a Linux platform phone. I mean, when you offer a supported Linux product and nobody gives a hoot ... what would you conclude? Rich - Original Message - From: Steve Stroh To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness... Apparently Nokia is now out with the N800, the successor to the 770. I don't have techno-lust details yet - look for yourself at http:// www.nseries.com/products/n800/#l=products,n800, but friends tell me it fixes the weaknesses of the 770, and is the preferred Linux hacking platform (cool open source stuff coming out for it) for portable Internet-connected devices. One of the funnier... cooler... things I've seen of late is Bluetooth GPS devices. One I saw REALLY impressed me - it was deep inside a restaurant, but was still able to get a fix from the windows more than 20' away. Thanks, Steve On Jan 22, 2007, at Jan 22 10:49 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Matt, It's funny you posted this message today I just picked up a new test phone I am trying to replace my Treo 650. I grabbed an HP iPaq 6945 from Cingular for $189 (with two year contract) and have been playing with it on an off for the last couple of days. The biggest advantage to this phone is the built-in GPS, along with WiFi and Bluetooth. There are some neat functions that are already built-in to the main OS... such as the camera showing GPS coordinates on the picture when you take it (if you enable that option). Also, many commercial map programs (TomTom 6, etc.) work on this phone with the GPS. With a simple car mount and car adapter, you have a full-fledged GPS device built into your phone. There are also programs that will connect to WiFi and update GPS coordinates to a website... so you could have real-time locations for your installers with no monthly fee. ;) It's running Windows Mobile 5, which is better than any other Windows phone OS I have used, but still not as easy to navigate as the Palm OS. The biggest feature on the Treo 650 for me is the SMS messaging. It's easy to access (single button) and it keeps a chat dialog going with each person you have talked to. I send and receive over 100 messages per day, sometimes 200-300. It's quick, easy, and can be done with one hand. If there was just a simple program that would function the same, the iPaq could be a great phone for me. I should also mention I purchased a Nokia 770 Internet Tablet. This is a pretty cool device as well built in WiFi and Bluetooth, running Linux with a nice GUI. Nice wide, bright screen too. It just doesn't have a phone or GPS, just WiFi. Still pretty cool for that type of a device. Travis Microserv --- Steve Stroh 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.stevestroh.com -- WISPA
RE: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...
I have the T-Mobile version of this phone called the MDA. AFAIK Sprint and T-Mobile do not strip any features from the phone. I belive one or two of the other carriers do strip some features. A little writeup on all the software that I use on my MDA, GPS (Franson GPSgate highly recommended for use with GPS), Mapping etc: http://snurl.com/ultimatePDA I've used this phone in Europe and the mobile data worked perfectly for the PDA and Dial Up Networking for my laptop (with no roaming data surcharge). Frank -Original Message- From: Rich Comroe Absolutely amazing how many windows phones have come out in the last few months. Just 12 months ago there were only 3 ... and now there's got'ta be dozens. I love my PPC6700 so much I bought a 2nd one ... EVDO / RTT1X / IS95 tri-mode, bluetooth, wifi, camera, added a couple GB on mini-SD, slide-out full keyboard, huge screen. Got Microsoft VC++ enterprise ... it comes with windows mobile 5 development environment. But I was disappointed at how stripped down the windows mobile version of MFC was. If you can get one without the neutered OS you'll be happier. The carriers have stripped key networking components of the OS to keep you from using your phone as a wifi access point for nearby laptops. I've got the original fully capable OS and it's amazing what you can do. If you see a pop-up that says a newer version of OS is available, click here ... DON'T!!! It's a neutered version from your carrier (not from Microsoft) which removes specific dial-up networking components to limit your abilities. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...
AFAIK Sprint and T-Mobile do not strip any features from the phone. Oh yeah? Both my PPC6700s are on Sprint. Our main SW developer uses the 2nd one ... he has a habit of regularly getting latest updates on all devices. Sprint's support site listed a new OS for download (it wasn't from a microsoft site -- it was from Sprint). The PPC6700 with the Sprint downloaded OS Update has key elements of the dial-up networking removed. I didn't update mine, and glad I didn't. I can browse the web from my laptop over bluetooth thru the phone. On the phone with the updated OS we can't do this anymore. It's natural that the carrier would try to remove some of the OS flexibility, as they want to sell a higher cost subscription for pc tethered operation. From their perspective it was a problem needing to be solved that Microsoft windows mobile 5 would permit any phone with a pc wireless interface to do this. Rich - Original Message - From: Frank To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:13 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness... I have the T-Mobile version of this phone called the MDA. AFAIK Sprint and T-Mobile do not strip any features from the phone. I belive one or two of the other carriers do strip some features. A little writeup on all the software that I use on my MDA, GPS (Franson GPSgate highly recommended for use with GPS), Mapping etc: http://snurl.com/ultimatePDA I've used this phone in Europe and the mobile data worked perfectly for the PDA and Dial Up Networking for my laptop (with no roaming data surcharge). Frank -Original Message- From: Rich Comroe Absolutely amazing how many windows phones have come out in the last few months. Just 12 months ago there were only 3 ... and now there's got'ta be dozens. I love my PPC6700 so much I bought a 2nd one ... EVDO / RTT1X / IS95 tri-mode, bluetooth, wifi, camera, added a couple GB on mini-SD, slide-out full keyboard, huge screen. Got Microsoft VC++ enterprise ... it comes with windows mobile 5 development environment. But I was disappointed at how stripped down the windows mobile version of MFC was. If you can get one without the neutered OS you'll be happier. The carriers have stripped key networking components of the OS to keep you from using your phone as a wifi access point for nearby laptops. I've got the original fully capable OS and it's amazing what you can do. If you see a pop-up that says a newer version of OS is available, click here ... DON'T!!! It's a neutered version from your carrier (not from Microsoft) which removes specific dial-up networking components to limit your abilities. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
