Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?
I just faxed the form for my area Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: "KyWiFi LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants? Hi Dylan, Here is the e-mail I originally sent to the P15 list which contains links to their state notices for the states I could find them associated with. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Anyone heard of Open Range Communications Inc.? They have applied for RUS grant money in numerous cities throughout the country. Below are a few links to their notices that I have found however, based on search engine results, it appears as though they have also applied for RUS funds in Kentucky, Florida and Virginia as well. I know that there are a couple cities in our coverage area that they have applied for RUS money to construct their own facilities in so I'll be filing the necessary paperwork with RDUP in hopes that their application for those two areas is declined. I am unable to locate where they are based or their contact information. I searched bbb.org and dnb.com but they are not registered with either of these so I'm thinking they may be a start-up company. There are quite a few cities listed in each of their state notices below so if you are operating in any of these states, you'll want to click the applicable link(s) I've provided below to see if they are trying to invade your turf too. The last thing we as WISP's need is for RUS money to be given out to someone who is attempting to compete with one of us in an area that already has broadband. We need to each do our part and file the necessary form with RDUP so they don't give money away for areas that already have broadband available whether the area is covered by a WISP, CLEC or ILEC. North Carolina: http://www.ncpress.com/2x2Network/06Apr24OpenRange.pdf South Carolina: http://display.independentmail.com/ROP/ads.aspx?advid=395985 Maine: http://me.mypublicnotices.com/PublicNotice.asp?Page=PublicNotice&AdId=91346 Colorado: http://tinyurl.com/g99rl Connecticut: http://ct.mypublicnotices.com/PublicNotice.asp?Page=PublicNotice&AdId=93998 Idaho: http://www.nwmarket.com/index.php?cmd=browse&cat=Personals&code=018 http://www.mountainhomenews.com/classifieds#Miscellaneous Nevada: http://fastads.swiftnews.com/indi/?s=tcan&ui=tb&a=850526 Rhode Island: http://www.projo.com/cgi-bin/include.pl/classifieds/legals.htm Vermont: http://tinyurl.com/ghruo Iowa: http://www.waarc.org/waarc_1_003.htm Georgia: http://www.earlycountynews.com/ROP/large/Misc%2Dopenrange%2Ehtm Texas: http://www.fortstocktonpioneer.com/classifieds/?loc=detail&main=LEGALS Kentucky: If you are a provider offering service in one or more of the cities for which Open Range Communications Inc. has applied for RUS funds, you need to file a Legal Notice Response Form ASAP. Here are the links to the form and the necessary reporting instructions: http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband/legal-notice-response-form.doc http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband/legal-notice-response-form.pdf You have 30 days from the date their notice was posted if you wish to file a response to stop them from receiving funds for the applicable cities for which they have applied. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $19.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Dylan Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants? Is there a centralized listing of all communities to be effected by Open Range? Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?
Hi Dylan, Here is the e-mail I originally sent to the P15 list which contains links to their state notices for the states I could find them associated with. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Anyone heard of Open Range Communications Inc.? They have applied for RUS grant money in numerous cities throughout the country. Below are a few links to their notices that I have found however, based on search engine results, it appears as though they have also applied for RUS funds in Kentucky, Florida and Virginia as well. I know that there are a couple cities in our coverage area that they have applied for RUS money to construct their own facilities in so I'll be filing the necessary paperwork with RDUP in hopes that their application for those two areas is declined. I am unable to locate where they are based or their contact information. I searched bbb.org and dnb.com but they are not registered with either of these so I'm thinking they may be a start-up company. There are quite a few cities listed in each of their state notices below so if you are operating in any of these states, you'll want to click the applicable link(s) I've provided below to see if they are trying to invade your turf too. The last thing we as WISP's need is for RUS money to be given out to someone who is attempting to compete with one of us in an area that already has broadband. We need to each do our part and file the necessary form with RDUP so they don't give money away for areas that already have broadband available whether the area is covered by a WISP, CLEC or ILEC. North Carolina: http://www.ncpress.com/2x2Network/06Apr24OpenRange.pdf South Carolina: http://display.independentmail.com/ROP/ads.aspx?advid=395985 Maine: http://me.mypublicnotices.com/PublicNotice.asp?Page=PublicNotice&AdId=91346 Colorado: http://tinyurl.com/g99rl Connecticut: http://ct.mypublicnotices.com/PublicNotice.asp?Page=PublicNotice&AdId=93998 Idaho: http://www.nwmarket.com/index.php?cmd=browse&cat=Personals&code=018 http://www.mountainhomenews.com/classifieds#Miscellaneous Nevada: http://fastads.swiftnews.com/indi/?s=tcan&ui=tb&a=850526 Rhode Island: http://www.projo.com/cgi-bin/include.pl/classifieds/legals.htm Vermont: http://tinyurl.com/ghruo Iowa: http://www.waarc.org/waarc_1_003.htm Georgia: http://www.earlycountynews.com/ROP/large/Misc%2Dopenrange%2Ehtm Texas: http://www.fortstocktonpioneer.com/classifieds/?loc=detail&main=LEGALS Kentucky: If you are a provider offering service in one or more of the cities for which Open Range Communications Inc. has applied for RUS funds, you need to file a Legal Notice Response Form ASAP. Here are the links to the form and the necessary reporting instructions: http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband/legal-notice-response-form.doc http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband/legal-notice-response-form.pdf You have 30 days from the date their notice was posted if you wish to file a response to stop them from receiving funds for the applicable cities for which they have applied. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $19.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: "Dylan Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants? Is there a centralized listing of all communities to be effected by Open Range? Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?
I would contact your local RUS representative to see if they have such a list. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants? Is there a centralized listing of all communities to be effected by Open Range? Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?
Is there a centralized listing of all communities to be effected by Open Range? Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?
Here is the email I sent out to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. Anyone belonging to a "state"@wispa.org list should send a similar email out to those perspective lists. Obviously, you should change the contact for your appropriate state. Those can be found at http://www.rurdev.usda.gov/recd_map.html. Scott and others, A company called “Open Range” has applied for an RUS loan for a nationwide wireless rollout. They have sent out public notices to newspapers all over the states. I didn’t see it in my local paper but the Huntington Herald Press ran it and a customer alerted me of it. According the notice we have 30 days (less now) to file papers showing our service areas. The Indiana contact for the RUS program is: Allen D. Deforest Illinois 5523 South Cardwell Road Indiana Bloomington, Indiana 47403 (812) 825-3727 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Incumbent Broadband Providers need to file a “Legal Notice Response Form” which is found at http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband.htm. The link to the form can be found in Application Materials. Coverage Maps are required to be attached to the form. The date of the notice was 4/17/2006. I would get the forms in by the 10th of May to be safe. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:01 AM To: WISPA Board Members List Subject: Re: [Board] Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants? Anybody have an response or opinion or ? George George wrote: > Hi guys > A couple things. > Do you think that wispa ought to have a vehicle in place for our wispa > members to be able to have help filing for grants like this? > And shouldn't we ought to add another director or three to the board to > help facilitate some projects. > I'm sure if we asked the member ship again for 3 more additional > candidates that we may just have more interested participation. > > I still haven't really gotten going on the promo stuff yet,. Tom and I > started a discussion and we got 3 basic ideals on the table, but we > haven't taken it from there. I feel the next step for us is to open up > applications for additional promo and marketing committee members. > > Hoe do you guys feel about this? > > George > > Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > >> anyone seen anything like this before? >> >> Marlon >> (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales >> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services >> 42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp! >> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) >> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless >> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam >> >> >> >> - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:54 PM >> Subject: USDA RUS loans/grants? >> >> >> >> >> Don't you provide service here?: >> >> LEGAL NOTICE OPEN RANGE COMMUNICATIONS INC We are a prospective >> applicant under the Rural Broadband Access Loan and Loan Guarantee >> Program being administered by the Rural Development, Utilities >> Programs (RDUP), United States Department of Agriculture. We are >> required, as a prospective applicant to announce our intent to provide >> broadband services (200 kilobits upstream and downstream) in the State >> of Washington in the following communities: Anacortes, Artondale, >> Burlington, Camas, Clarkstone Heights-Vineland, College Place, East >> Port Orchard, East Wenatchee Bench, Ephrata, Ferndale, Fort Lewis, Gig >> Harbor, Grandview, Green Acres, Lynden, Moses Lake, Othello, Quincy, >> Steilacoom, Sunnyside, Toppenish, Waller, Washougal, West Richland. >> Incumbent broadband service providers have 30 days from the date of >> this Legal Notice to inform RDUP if they are currently providing >> broadband service in these areas or if they have a commitment to >> provide service in these areas. Incumbent broadband service providers >> should submit to RDUP, on a form prescribed by RDUP, the number of >> residential customers receiving broadband service in the proposed >> service area, the rates of data transmission, and the cost of each >> level of service or proof of commitment to provide service in the >> proposed service area. A map should
Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?
How long after someone is approved do they have to build out? IE, if they don't build out their system after a year or two, what happens to that money, whether it be a grant or a loan guarantee? - Original Message - From: "Brian Whigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants? Marlon, I have not seen one; but I have heard of them. I feel silly addressing you since you are one of the 'experienced' people on this list. Someone from USDA (or HUD, can't remember) came and presented funding options for rural wireless network buildout at a rural broadband conference that I attended this past fall (http://www.nespal.org/unwired05/program.htm). One must ensure (due dilligence) that there are no networks that are already servicing the area. It appears that the fellow in your post is doing just that in order to qualify for the loan. The loans can be spent on infrastructure and equipment only. They can not be used to rent towerspace or upstream bandwidth. And they can't be used for salaries. Per the speaker, the loans aren't that hard to qualify for. And they can be for large amounts. I'm sure you'll find more details on the website that he posted below. Sorry if I was totally off base; I wasn't quite sure what you were asking. Brian Whigham Yonder Networks 888-770-3421 www.yondernetworks.com Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: anyone seen anything like this before? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: USDA RUS loans/grants? Don't you provide service here?: LEGAL NOTICE OPEN RANGE COMMUNICATIONS INC We are a prospective applicant under the Rural Broadband Access Loan and Loan Guarantee Program being administered by the Rural Development, Utilities Programs (RDUP), United States Department of Agriculture. We are required, as a prospective applicant to announce our intent to provide broadband services (200 kilobits upstream and downstream) in the State of Washington in the following communities: Anacortes, Artondale, Burlington, Camas, Clarkstone Heights-Vineland, College Place, East Port Orchard, East Wenatchee Bench, Ephrata, Ferndale, Fort Lewis, Gig Harbor, Grandview, Green Acres, Lynden, Moses Lake, Othello, Quincy, Steilacoom, Sunnyside, Toppenish, Waller, Washougal, West Richland. Incumbent broadband service providers have 30 days from the date of this Legal Notice to inform RDUP if they are currently providing broadband service in these areas or if they have a commitment to provide service in these areas. Incumbent broadband service providers should submit to RDUP, on a form prescribed by RDUP, the number of residential customers receiving broadband service in the proposed service area, the rates of data transmission, and the cost of each level of service or proof of commitment to provide service in the proposed service area. A map should also be provided showing the boundaries of your service area in relation to the communities above. A Legal Notice Response Form can be obtained from RDUP's website at www.usda.gov/rus/telecom. (This ad is from 04/17/2006 to 04/18/2006.) ryan -- Brian Whigham Yonder Networks 888-770-3421 360-226-7561 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?
Marlon, I have not seen one; but I have heard of them. I feel silly addressing you since you are one of the 'experienced' people on this list. Someone from USDA (or HUD, can't remember) came and presented funding options for rural wireless network buildout at a rural broadband conference that I attended this past fall (http://www.nespal.org/unwired05/program.htm). One must ensure (due dilligence) that there are no networks that are already servicing the area. It appears that the fellow in your post is doing just that in order to qualify for the loan. The loans can be spent on infrastructure and equipment only. They can not be used to rent towerspace or upstream bandwidth. And they can't be used for salaries. Per the speaker, the loans aren't that hard to qualify for. And they can be for large amounts. I'm sure you'll find more details on the website that he posted below. Sorry if I was totally off base; I wasn't quite sure what you were asking. Brian Whigham Yonder Networks 888-770-3421 www.yondernetworks.com Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: anyone seen anything like this before? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: USDA RUS loans/grants? Don't you provide service here?: LEGAL NOTICE OPEN RANGE COMMUNICATIONS INC We are a prospective applicant under the Rural Broadband Access Loan and Loan Guarantee Program being administered by the Rural Development, Utilities Programs (RDUP), United States Department of Agriculture. We are required, as a prospective applicant to announce our intent to provide broadband services (200 kilobits upstream and downstream) in the State of Washington in the following communities: Anacortes, Artondale, Burlington, Camas, Clarkstone Heights-Vineland, College Place, East Port Orchard, East Wenatchee Bench, Ephrata, Ferndale, Fort Lewis, Gig Harbor, Grandview, Green Acres, Lynden, Moses Lake, Othello, Quincy, Steilacoom, Sunnyside, Toppenish, Waller, Washougal, West Richland. Incumbent broadband service providers have 30 days from the date of this Legal Notice to inform RDUP if they are currently providing broadband service in these areas or if they have a commitment to provide service in these areas. Incumbent broadband service providers should submit to RDUP, on a form prescribed by RDUP, the number of residential customers receiving broadband service in the proposed service area, the rates of data transmission, and the cost of each level of service or proof of commitment to provide service in the proposed service area. A map should also be provided showing the boundaries of your service area in relation to the communities above. A Legal Notice Response Form can be obtained from RDUP's website at www.usda.gov/rus/telecom. (This ad is from 04/17/2006 to 04/18/2006.) ryan -- Brian Whigham Yonder Networks 888-770-3421 360-226-7561 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?
Yes, it is a required step in applying for a grant/loan from RUS. This is your opportunity to let RUS know you exist, which from last time I looked at it made the applicant must less likely to get the grant/loan if you already provide in the area they are asking for help in. Steve Smith Chase 3000 Imperial, NE 69033 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 308 882-3000 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:15 PM To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Cc: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants? anyone seen anything like this before? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: USDA RUS loans/grants? Don't you provide service here?: LEGAL NOTICE OPEN RANGE COMMUNICATIONS INC We are a prospective applicant under the Rural Broadband Access Loan and Loan Guarantee Program being administered by the Rural Development, Utilities Programs (RDUP), United States Department of Agriculture. We are required, as a prospective applicant to announce our intent to provide broadband services (200 kilobits upstream and downstream) in the State of Washington in the following communities: Anacortes, Artondale, Burlington, Camas, Clarkstone Heights-Vineland, College Place, East Port Orchard, East Wenatchee Bench, Ephrata, Ferndale, Fort Lewis, Gig Harbor, Grandview, Green Acres, Lynden, Moses Lake, Othello, Quincy, Steilacoom, Sunnyside, Toppenish, Waller, Washougal, West Richland. Incumbent broadband service providers have 30 days from the date of this Legal Notice to inform RDUP if they are currently providing broadband service in these areas or if they have a commitment to provide service in these areas. Incumbent broadband service providers should submit to RDUP, on a form prescribed by RDUP, the number of residential customers receiving broadband service in the proposed service area, the rates of data transmission, and the cost of each level of service or proof of commitment to provide service in the proposed service area. A map should also be provided showing the boundaries of your service area in relation to the communities above. A Legal Notice Response Form can be obtained from RDUP's website at www.usda.gov/rus/telecom. (This ad is from 04/17/2006 to 04/18/2006.) ryan -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
