RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- "big dumb pipe provider" vs. end-to-end connectivity/content provider

2006-01-04 Thread Butch Evans

On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Charles Wu wrote:

If you think about it, an argument can be made that preference of 
one's own traffic (or depreffing competition traffic) is not that 
much different than


These are nowhere NEAR the same thing.  Let me give an example.

Let's say that my webserver is something I want to be considered 
priority over all other hosts on my network.  I simply set up my QOS 
to make that traffic priority over ANY other traffic on my network. 
Same thing if it is a VOIP server.  I am not changing the traffic in 
any way, nor am I restricting their traffic.  I am simply insuring 
(as far as I can) the traffic that I want to be priority on MY 
network.  That is not what happened with that other case (and you 
know this).  If I do what I described above, can Google come in and 
sue me because THEIR web traffic is not prioritized on my network? 
Not at all.  Having said that, if Google wants to come in and pay me 
$XXX (maybe a couple more X's), then you can BET that I WILL add 
priority to their traffic.  Not sure how you see any kind of 
parallel between adding priority to one traffic and not another, vs 
blocking a certain class of traffic.



FCC fines telco for VoIP Port Blocking
http://informationweek.smallbizpipeline.com/60405214


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RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- "big dumb pipe provider" vs. end-to-end connectivity/content provider

2006-01-04 Thread Charles Wu

performance to their VOIP servers over our network. Think about it, do you 
think I'm going to allow the same performance to our competitive VOIP 
provider as I do to our own VOIP services? By getting us to be a Partner for

them, we'd optimize them for our own benefit, and indirectly Comm Parnters 
would guarantee that our network


Not that I'm trying to start anything...but this is pretty dangerous ground
to tread on
If you think about it, an argument can be made that preference of one's own
traffic (or depreffing competition traffic) is not that much different than

FCC fines telco for VoIP Port Blocking
http://informationweek.smallbizpipeline.com/60405214

SBC Says "Google should pay to use our network"
http://techdirt.com/articles/20051031/0354228_F.shtml

In a larger context, it may come down to a strategy of providing "big dumb
pipes" (like what the phone companies have done) or becoming end-to-end
connectivity/content companies (like what the cable-cos have done)

-Charles


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