Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: HyperlinkCoax Jumpers
It might be a little bit. But ONLY if you use the GOOD stuff. I pay just short of $7 per roll, not $2. It also helps force the rubber blob into all the nooks and crannies. Often as not I come back a couple of years down the road and find that the vinyl tape has actually drifted clear off the connector. But there's enough of the rubber that's pushed down into all of the cracks that it still doesn't leak at all. marlon - Original Message - From: "D. Ryan Spott" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: HyperlinkCoax Jumpers > My understanding is the Vinyl tape is more solar resistant than the > black rubber... > > ryan > > Mark Nash wrote: >> Is the electrical tape just to hold the coax-seal in place? >> >> Mark Nash >> UnwiredWest >> 78 Centennial Loop >> Suite E >> Eugene, OR 97401 >> 541-998- >> 541-998-5599 fax >> http://www.unwiredwest.com >> - Original Message ----- >> From: "RickG" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:01 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: >> HyperlinkCoax Jumpers >> >> >> >>> Coaxseal and good electrical tape. LOL, I had one tower where the >>> pigeons >>> would peck at the connectors, so I added metal foil tape over the >>> connection. That took care of that! >>> -RickG >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Mark Nash wrote: >>> >>> >>>> The only thing we use to seal these connectors is fusion tape from GB. >>>> >> I >> >>>> can get it from the local hardware store. I suspect that this is a >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> How is everyone sealing connectors on towers? This one particular site >>>> >> is >> >>>> at 3100ft so it gets wind and cold. Snow & ice on it for a few 2-week >>>> periods per year. Lots of rain during the winter. It's been the worst >>>> >> for >> >>>> coax failures. >>>> >>>> Mark Nash >>>> UnwiredWest >>>> 78 Centennial Loop >>>> Suite E >>>> Eugene, OR 97401 >>>> 541-998- >>>> 541-998-5599 fax >>>> http://www.unwiredwest.com >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Josh Luthman" >>>> To: "WISPA General List" >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:22 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hyperlink Coax Jumpers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I have used custom made ones from Tessco as well as the pre mades ones >>>>> >>>> from >>>> >>>>> Wisp Router and other places. The last few years I have not had any >>>>> problems though it may have been due to the fact we put so much coax >>>>> >> seal >> >>>>> around them. Do you seal it with coax seal (or comparable material)? >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >>>>> --- Henry Spencer >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Mark Nash wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> We have had about 6 of these fail in the last few months, whereas >>>>>> >> prior >> >>>> to >>>> >>>>>> that we don't recall a problem. They are 2-ft NM-NM LMR195 jumpers >>>>>> >>>> from >>>> >>>>>> Hyperlink. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone else have a problem? >>>>>> >>>>>> Any recommendations on best source for them? >>>>>> >>>>>> We normally only use them on backhauls & APs, so when they go bad >>>>>> >> it's >> >>>> a >>>> >>>>>> big frustrating problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark Nash >>>>>> UnwiredWest >>>>>> 78 Centennial Loop >>>>>> Suite E >>>&g
Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: HyperlinkCoax Jumpers
3m 2228 self vulcanizing rubber tape. Covered with 3m 33+ electrical tape. I've NEVER had one leak when done this way. marlon - Original Message - From: "RickG" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: HyperlinkCoax Jumpers > Coaxseal and good electrical tape. LOL, I had one tower where the pigeons > would peck at the connectors, so I added metal foil tape over the > connection. That took care of that! > -RickG > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Mark Nash wrote: > >> The only thing we use to seal these connectors is fusion tape from GB. I >> can get it from the local hardware store. I suspect that this is a >> problem. >> >> How is everyone sealing connectors on towers? This one particular site >> is >> at 3100ft so it gets wind and cold. Snow & ice on it for a few 2-week >> periods per year. Lots of rain during the winter. It's been the worst >> for >> coax failures. >> >> Mark Nash >> UnwiredWest >> 78 Centennial Loop >> Suite E >> Eugene, OR 97401 >> 541-998- >> 541-998-5599 fax >> http://www.unwiredwest.com >> - Original Message - >> From: "Josh Luthman" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:22 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hyperlink Coax Jumpers >> >> >> > I have used custom made ones from Tessco as well as the pre mades ones >> from >> > Wisp Router and other places. The last few years I have not had any >> > problems though it may have been due to the fact we put so much coax >> > seal >> > around them. Do you seal it with coax seal (or comparable material)? >> > >> > Josh Luthman >> > Office: 937-552-2340 >> > Direct: 937-552-2343 >> > 1100 Wayne St >> > Suite 1337 >> > Troy, OH 45373 >> > >> > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >> > --- Henry Spencer >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Mark Nash wrote: >> > >> > > We have had about 6 of these fail in the last few months, whereas >> > > prior >> to >> > > that we don't recall a problem. They are 2-ft NM-NM LMR195 jumpers >> from >> > > Hyperlink. >> > > >> > > Anyone else have a problem? >> > > >> > > Any recommendations on best source for them? >> > > >> > > We normally only use them on backhauls & APs, so when they go bad >> > > it's >> a >> > > big frustrating problem. >> > > >> > > Mark Nash >> > > UnwiredWest >> > > 78 Centennial Loop >> > > Suite E >> > > Eugene, OR 97401 >> > > 541-998- >> > > 541-998-5599 fax >> > > http://www.unwiredwest.com >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- >> -- >> > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> > > http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> > >> > >> -- >> -- >> > > >> > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> > > >> > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > > >> > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- >> -- >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > >> -- >> -- >> > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: HyperlinkCoax Jumpers
D. Ryan Spott wrote: > My understanding is the Vinyl tape is more solar resistant than the > black rubber... > > ryan Not sure about this. I use rubber and sometimes we put vinyl tape as a 2nd layer. But I have never seen the rubber tape fail, except, the cheap junk you get in a true value harware store that has a plastic layer you peel off. That stuff disintergrates, shouldn't be used for anything I can think of. We use 3m and it's high quality. I stretch it out pretty far and it really covers tight. Something else we used as electricians in the past that I may have tried years ago to add aditional sealing, was liguid rubber. 3m or scotch make a liquid rubber product that you brush on and coats the tape that is used. It's called "Scotch Coat" in the electrical trade. It's an additional layer of protection. Downside, as you can imagine, it's kinda messy to work with. > > Mark Nash wrote: >> Is the electrical tape just to hold the coax-seal in place? >> >> Mark Nash >> UnwiredWest >> 78 Centennial Loop >> Suite E >> Eugene, OR 97401 >> 541-998- >> 541-998-5599 fax >> http://www.unwiredwest.com >> - Original Message ----- >> From: "RickG" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:01 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: >> HyperlinkCoax Jumpers >> >> >> >>> Coaxseal and good electrical tape. LOL, I had one tower where the pigeons >>> would peck at the connectors, so I added metal foil tape over the >>> connection. That took care of that! >>> -RickG >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Mark Nash wrote: >>> >>> >>>> The only thing we use to seal these connectors is fusion tape from GB. >>>> >> I >> >>>> can get it from the local hardware store. I suspect that this is a >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> How is everyone sealing connectors on towers? This one particular site >>>> >> is >> >>>> at 3100ft so it gets wind and cold. Snow & ice on it for a few 2-week >>>> periods per year. Lots of rain during the winter. It's been the worst >>>> >> for >> >>>> coax failures. >>>> >>>> Mark Nash >>>> UnwiredWest >>>> 78 Centennial Loop >>>> Suite E >>>> Eugene, OR 97401 >>>> 541-998- >>>> 541-998-5599 fax >>>> http://www.unwiredwest.com >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Josh Luthman" >>>> To: "WISPA General List" >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:22 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hyperlink Coax Jumpers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I have used custom made ones from Tessco as well as the pre mades ones >>>>> >>>> from >>>> >>>>> Wisp Router and other places. The last few years I have not had any >>>>> problems though it may have been due to the fact we put so much coax >>>>> >> seal >> >>>>> around them. Do you seal it with coax seal (or comparable material)? >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >>>>> --- Henry Spencer >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Mark Nash wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> We have had about 6 of these fail in the last few months, whereas >>>>>> >> prior >> >>>> to >>>> >>>>>> that we don't recall a problem. They are 2-ft NM-NM LMR195 jumpers >>>>>> >>>> from >>>> >>>>>> Hyperlink. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone else have a problem? >>>>>> >>>>>> Any recommendations on best source for them? >>>>>> >>>>>> We normally only use them on backhauls & APs, so when they go bad >>>>>> >> it's >>
Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: HyperlinkCoax Jumpers
First coat. Electrical tape (sticky side out) easiest to remove 2nd http://www.shop3m.com/80050049008.html?WT.mc_ev=clickthrough&WT.mc_id=shop3m-AtoZ-Scotch-Vinyl-Mastic 3m mastic. It's nice and nasty but it's all I've used for 5 yrs. Only a couple leaks. (probably user error) 3rd. Another layer of electric tape. Brian os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: A good final coating over the tape (be it pure rubber or vinyl) is 3M's Scotchkote http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3MElectrical/Home/ProductsServices/Products/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LECIE20OES1_nid=6Q3BGBPJ7CbeFR7R0D83TCgl We used that on seagoing ships for outdoor connections that see salt water, rain, high winds, freezing rain, etc. Greg On Mar 5, 2009, at 2:27 PM, RickG wrote: I use two layers of tape with the coaxseal in between. This protects the connectors and allows clean removal of the coaxseal. In addition, the tape seems to hold up better to the weather than the coaxseal. To be honest, I'd rather get rid of weather proofing altogether and just POE everywhere. Unfortunately, I have found any good sector antennas with radios build in. Then again, it is lame to replace an antenna due to a bad radio. The Ubiquiti Bullets have potential for this use but I suspect you still need to weather proof the connector. Also, whiel they have a lot of capabilities, I havent found a way to shape individual users bandwidth if they are used as an AP. I guess migrate bandwidth shaping to the user side? -RickG On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Mark Nash wrote: Is the electrical tape just to hold the coax-seal in place? Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: "RickG" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: HyperlinkCoax Jumpers Coaxseal and good electrical tape. LOL, I had one tower where the pigeons would peck at the connectors, so I added metal foil tape over the connection. That took care of that! -RickG On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Mark Nash wrote: The only thing we use to seal these connectors is fusion tape from GB. I can get it from the local hardware store. I suspect that this is a problem. How is everyone sealing connectors on towers? This one particular site is at 3100ft so it gets wind and cold. Snow & ice on it for a few 2- week periods per year. Lots of rain during the winter. It's been the worst for coax failures. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hyperlink Coax Jumpers I have used custom made ones from Tessco as well as the pre mades ones from Wisp Router and other places. The last few years I have not had any problems though it may have been due to the fact we put so much coax seal around them. Do you seal it with coax seal (or comparable material)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Mark Nash wrote: We have had about 6 of these fail in the last few months, whereas prior to that we don't recall a problem. They are 2-ft NM-NM LMR195 jumpers from Hyperlink. Anyone else have a problem? Any recommendations on best source for them? We normally only use them on backhauls & APs, so when they go bad it's a big frustrating problem. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78
Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: HyperlinkCoax Jumpers
A good final coating over the tape (be it pure rubber or vinyl) is 3M's Scotchkote http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3MElectrical/Home/ProductsServices/Products/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LECIE20OES1_nid=6Q3BGBPJ7CbeFR7R0D83TCgl We used that on seagoing ships for outdoor connections that see salt water, rain, high winds, freezing rain, etc. Greg On Mar 5, 2009, at 2:27 PM, RickG wrote: > I use two layers of tape with the coaxseal in between. This protects > the > connectors and allows clean removal of the coaxseal. In addition, > the tape > seems to hold up better to the weather than the coaxseal. > To be honest, I'd rather get rid of weather proofing altogether and > just POE > everywhere. Unfortunately, I have found any good sector antennas > with radios > build in. Then again, it is lame to replace an antenna due to a bad > radio. > The Ubiquiti Bullets have potential for this use but I suspect you > still > need to weather proof the connector. Also, whiel they have a lot of > capabilities, I havent found a way to shape individual users > bandwidth if > they are used as an AP. I guess migrate bandwidth shaping to the > user side? > > -RickG > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Mark Nash wrote: > >> Is the electrical tape just to hold the coax-seal in place? >> >> Mark Nash >> UnwiredWest >> 78 Centennial Loop >> Suite E >> Eugene, OR 97401 >> 541-998- >> 541-998-5599 fax >> http://www.unwiredwest.com >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "RickG" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:01 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: >> HyperlinkCoax Jumpers >> >> >>> Coaxseal and good electrical tape. LOL, I had one tower where the >>> pigeons >>> would peck at the connectors, so I added metal foil tape over the >>> connection. That took care of that! >>> -RickG >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Mark Nash >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The only thing we use to seal these connectors is fusion tape >>>> from GB. >> I >>>> can get it from the local hardware store. I suspect that this is a >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> How is everyone sealing connectors on towers? This one >>>> particular site >> is >>>> at 3100ft so it gets wind and cold. Snow & ice on it for a few 2- >>>> week >>>> periods per year. Lots of rain during the winter. It's been the >>>> worst >> for >>>> coax failures. >>>> >>>> Mark Nash >>>> UnwiredWest >>>> 78 Centennial Loop >>>> Suite E >>>> Eugene, OR 97401 >>>> 541-998- >>>> 541-998-5599 fax >>>> http://www.unwiredwest.com >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Josh Luthman" >>>> To: "WISPA General List" >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:22 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hyperlink Coax Jumpers >>>> >>>> >>>>> I have used custom made ones from Tessco as well as the pre mades >> ones >>>> from >>>>> Wisp Router and other places. The last few years I have not had >>>>> any >>>>> problems though it may have been due to the fact we put so much >>>>> coax >> seal >>>>> around them. Do you seal it with coax seal (or comparable >>>>> material)? >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, >>>>> poorly. >>>>> --- Henry Spencer >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Mark Nash >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We have had about 6 of these fail in the last few months, whereas >> prior >>>> to >>>>>> that we don't recall a problem. They are 2-ft NM-NM LMR195 >>>>>> jumpers >>>> from >>>>>> Hyperlink. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone else have a problem? >>>>>> >>>>>> Any recommendations on best source for them? >>>>&g
Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: HyperlinkCoax Jumpers
I would definitely seal a Ubiquiti Bullet if I put one outside, regardless of they their marketing says. Too many times, I have seen marketing departments show radios on a mast with blue indoor cat5 coming out, shiny unsealed coax connections, 80f, dry and sunny, etc... They have good potential for CPE once approved for larger directional antennas. Their capabilities are lacking compared to Mikrotik, et.al. for AP use. No noise floor adjustment, no nstreme, no virtual APs, no power less than 10-11dbm, no means of automated config backup, no interface for adding and saving static routes, no calea tools, etc... On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 01:57:33PM -0500, RickG wrote: > I use two layers of tape with the coaxseal in between. This protects the > connectors and allows clean removal of the coaxseal. In addition, the tape > seems to hold up better to the weather than the coaxseal. > To be honest, I'd rather get rid of weather proofing altogether and just POE > everywhere. Unfortunately, I have found any good sector antennas with radios > build in. Then again, it is lame to replace an antenna due to a bad radio. > The Ubiquiti Bullets have potential for this use but I suspect you still > need to weather proof the connector. Also, whiel they have a lot of > capabilities, I havent found a way to shape individual users bandwidth if > they are used as an AP. I guess migrate bandwidth shaping to the user side? > > -RickG > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Mark Nash wrote: > > > Is the electrical tape just to hold the coax-seal in place? > > > > Mark Nash > > UnwiredWest > > 78 Centennial Loop > > Suite E > > Eugene, OR 97401 > > 541-998- > > 541-998-5599 fax > > http://www.unwiredwest.com > > - Original Message - > > From: "RickG" > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:01 AM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: > > HyperlinkCoax Jumpers > > > > > > > Coaxseal and good electrical tape. LOL, I had one tower where the pigeons > > > would peck at the connectors, so I added metal foil tape over the > > > connection. That took care of that! > > > -RickG > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Mark Nash wrote: > > > > > > > The only thing we use to seal these connectors is fusion tape from GB. > > I > > > > can get it from the local hardware store. I suspect that this is a > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > How is everyone sealing connectors on towers? This one particular site > > is > > > > at 3100ft so it gets wind and cold. Snow & ice on it for a few 2-week > > > > periods per year. Lots of rain during the winter. It's been the worst > > for > > > > coax failures. > > > > > > > > Mark Nash > > > > UnwiredWest > > > > 78 Centennial Loop > > > > Suite E > > > > Eugene, OR 97401 > > > > 541-998- > > > > 541-998-5599 fax > > > > http://www.unwiredwest.com > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Josh Luthman" > > > > To: "WISPA General List" > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:22 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hyperlink Coax Jumpers > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have used custom made ones from Tessco as well as the pre mades > > ones > > > > from > > > > > Wisp Router and other places. The last few years I have not had any > > > > > problems though it may have been due to the fact we put so much coax > > seal > > > > > around them. Do you seal it with coax seal (or comparable material)? > > > > > > > > > > Josh Luthman > > > > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > > > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > > > > 1100 Wayne St > > > > > Suite 1337 > > > > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > > > > > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. > > > > > --- Henry Spencer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Mark Nash > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > We have had about 6 of these fail in the last few months, whereas > > prior > > > > to > > > > > > that we don't recall a problem. They are 2-ft NM-NM LMR195 jumpers > > > > from > >
Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: HyperlinkCoax Jumpers
I use two layers of tape with the coaxseal in between. This protects the connectors and allows clean removal of the coaxseal. In addition, the tape seems to hold up better to the weather than the coaxseal. To be honest, I'd rather get rid of weather proofing altogether and just POE everywhere. Unfortunately, I have found any good sector antennas with radios build in. Then again, it is lame to replace an antenna due to a bad radio. The Ubiquiti Bullets have potential for this use but I suspect you still need to weather proof the connector. Also, whiel they have a lot of capabilities, I havent found a way to shape individual users bandwidth if they are used as an AP. I guess migrate bandwidth shaping to the user side? -RickG On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Mark Nash wrote: > Is the electrical tape just to hold the coax-seal in place? > > Mark Nash > UnwiredWest > 78 Centennial Loop > Suite E > Eugene, OR 97401 > 541-998- > 541-998-5599 fax > http://www.unwiredwest.com > - Original Message - > From: "RickG" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:01 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: > HyperlinkCoax Jumpers > > > > Coaxseal and good electrical tape. LOL, I had one tower where the pigeons > > would peck at the connectors, so I added metal foil tape over the > > connection. That took care of that! > > -RickG > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Mark Nash wrote: > > > > > The only thing we use to seal these connectors is fusion tape from GB. > I > > > can get it from the local hardware store. I suspect that this is a > > > problem. > > > > > > How is everyone sealing connectors on towers? This one particular site > is > > > at 3100ft so it gets wind and cold. Snow & ice on it for a few 2-week > > > periods per year. Lots of rain during the winter. It's been the worst > for > > > coax failures. > > > > > > Mark Nash > > > UnwiredWest > > > 78 Centennial Loop > > > Suite E > > > Eugene, OR 97401 > > > 541-998- > > > 541-998-5599 fax > > > http://www.unwiredwest.com > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Josh Luthman" > > > To: "WISPA General List" > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:22 AM > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hyperlink Coax Jumpers > > > > > > > > > > I have used custom made ones from Tessco as well as the pre mades > ones > > > from > > > > Wisp Router and other places. The last few years I have not had any > > > > problems though it may have been due to the fact we put so much coax > seal > > > > around them. Do you seal it with coax seal (or comparable material)? > > > > > > > > Josh Luthman > > > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > > > 1100 Wayne St > > > > Suite 1337 > > > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > > > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. > > > > --- Henry Spencer > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Mark Nash > wrote: > > > > > > > > > We have had about 6 of these fail in the last few months, whereas > prior > > > to > > > > > that we don't recall a problem. They are 2-ft NM-NM LMR195 jumpers > > > from > > > > > Hyperlink. > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else have a problem? > > > > > > > > > > Any recommendations on best source for them? > > > > > > > > > > We normally only use them on backhauls & APs, so when they go bad > it's > > > a > > > > > big frustrating problem. > > > > > > > > > > Mark Nash > > > > > UnwiredWest > > > > > 78 Centennial Loop > > > > > Suite E > > > > > Eugene, OR 97401 > > > > > 541-998- > > > > > 541-998-5599 fax > > > > > http://www.unwiredwest.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > -- > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > > > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > >
Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: HyperlinkCoax Jumpers
There are two methods I can say work. Electrical tape the entire thing then cover it in coax seal. The purpose of the electrical tape is only to "easily" remove all the gunk off of the coax connector. I personally spend $10 on a new cable and seal then spending 15 to 30 minutes minimum trying to clean it off. Coax seal does a beautiful job of keeping the weather out. The worst part about Ohio weather is that we can get a build up of ice and have it melt and freeze within 24 hours. Finding how to seal our gear was a difficult task but has been solved. For the last couple of years we quit using PacWireless enclosures and stick with the no name brand "2 or 4 n hole enclosure" with ribs and U bolts. Coax connectors sealed with a good foot of coax seal, from enclosure to the factory sealer of the coax cable. No problems in the last year or two since doing this. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Mark Nash wrote: > Is the electrical tape just to hold the coax-seal in place? > > Mark Nash > UnwiredWest > 78 Centennial Loop > Suite E > Eugene, OR 97401 > 541-998- > 541-998-5599 fax > http://www.unwiredwest.com > - Original Message - > From: "RickG" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:01 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: > HyperlinkCoax Jumpers > > > > Coaxseal and good electrical tape. LOL, I had one tower where the pigeons > > would peck at the connectors, so I added metal foil tape over the > > connection. That took care of that! > > -RickG > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Mark Nash wrote: > > > > > The only thing we use to seal these connectors is fusion tape from GB. > I > > > can get it from the local hardware store. I suspect that this is a > > > problem. > > > > > > How is everyone sealing connectors on towers? This one particular site > is > > > at 3100ft so it gets wind and cold. Snow & ice on it for a few 2-week > > > periods per year. Lots of rain during the winter. It's been the worst > for > > > coax failures. > > > > > > Mark Nash > > > UnwiredWest > > > 78 Centennial Loop > > > Suite E > > > Eugene, OR 97401 > > > 541-998- > > > 541-998-5599 fax > > > http://www.unwiredwest.com > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Josh Luthman" > > > To: "WISPA General List" > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:22 AM > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hyperlink Coax Jumpers > > > > > > > > > > I have used custom made ones from Tessco as well as the pre mades > ones > > > from > > > > Wisp Router and other places. The last few years I have not had any > > > > problems though it may have been due to the fact we put so much coax > seal > > > > around them. Do you seal it with coax seal (or comparable material)? > > > > > > > > Josh Luthman > > > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > > > 1100 Wayne St > > > > Suite 1337 > > > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > > > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. > > > > --- Henry Spencer > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Mark Nash > wrote: > > > > > > > > > We have had about 6 of these fail in the last few months, whereas > prior > > > to > > > > > that we don't recall a problem. They are 2-ft NM-NM LMR195 jumpers > > > from > > > > > Hyperlink. > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else have a problem? > > > > > > > > > > Any recommendations on best source for them? > > > > > > > > > > We normally only use them on backhauls & APs, so when they go bad > it's > > > a > > > > > big frustrating problem. > > > > > > > > > > Mark Nash > > > > > UnwiredWest > > > > > 78 Centennial Loop > > > > > Suite E > > > > > Eugene, OR 97401 > > > > > 541-998- > > > > > 541-998-5599 fax > > > > > http://www.unwiredwest.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: HyperlinkCoax Jumpers
My understanding is the Vinyl tape is more solar resistant than the black rubber... ryan Mark Nash wrote: > Is the electrical tape just to hold the coax-seal in place? > > Mark Nash > UnwiredWest > 78 Centennial Loop > Suite E > Eugene, OR 97401 > 541-998- > 541-998-5599 fax > http://www.unwiredwest.com > - Original Message - > From: "RickG" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:01 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: > HyperlinkCoax Jumpers > > > >> Coaxseal and good electrical tape. LOL, I had one tower where the pigeons >> would peck at the connectors, so I added metal foil tape over the >> connection. That took care of that! >> -RickG >> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Mark Nash wrote: >> >> >>> The only thing we use to seal these connectors is fusion tape from GB. >>> > I > >>> can get it from the local hardware store. I suspect that this is a >>> problem. >>> >>> How is everyone sealing connectors on towers? This one particular site >>> > is > >>> at 3100ft so it gets wind and cold. Snow & ice on it for a few 2-week >>> periods per year. Lots of rain during the winter. It's been the worst >>> > for > >>> coax failures. >>> >>> Mark Nash >>> UnwiredWest >>> 78 Centennial Loop >>> Suite E >>> Eugene, OR 97401 >>> 541-998- >>> 541-998-5599 fax >>> http://www.unwiredwest.com >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Josh Luthman" >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:22 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hyperlink Coax Jumpers >>> >>> >>> >>>> I have used custom made ones from Tessco as well as the pre mades ones >>>> >>> from >>> >>>> Wisp Router and other places. The last few years I have not had any >>>> problems though it may have been due to the fact we put so much coax >>>> > seal > >>>> around them. Do you seal it with coax seal (or comparable material)? >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >>>> --- Henry Spencer >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Mark Nash wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> We have had about 6 of these fail in the last few months, whereas >>>>> > prior > >>> to >>> >>>>> that we don't recall a problem. They are 2-ft NM-NM LMR195 jumpers >>>>> >>> from >>> >>>>> Hyperlink. >>>>> >>>>> Anyone else have a problem? >>>>> >>>>> Any recommendations on best source for them? >>>>> >>>>> We normally only use them on backhauls & APs, so when they go bad >>>>> > it's > >>> a >>> >>>>> big frustrating problem. >>>>> >>>>> Mark Nash >>>>> UnwiredWest >>>>> 78 Centennial Loop >>>>> Suite E >>>>> Eugene, OR 97401 >>>>> 541-998- >>>>> 541-998-5599 fax >>>>> http://www.unwiredwest.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> -- >> >>> -- >>> >>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> -- >> >>> -- >>> >>>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>>> >>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>> >>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>> >>
Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: HyperlinkCoax Jumpers
Is the electrical tape just to hold the coax-seal in place? Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: "RickG" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: HyperlinkCoax Jumpers > Coaxseal and good electrical tape. LOL, I had one tower where the pigeons > would peck at the connectors, so I added metal foil tape over the > connection. That took care of that! > -RickG > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Mark Nash wrote: > > > The only thing we use to seal these connectors is fusion tape from GB. I > > can get it from the local hardware store. I suspect that this is a > > problem. > > > > How is everyone sealing connectors on towers? This one particular site is > > at 3100ft so it gets wind and cold. Snow & ice on it for a few 2-week > > periods per year. Lots of rain during the winter. It's been the worst for > > coax failures. > > > > Mark Nash > > UnwiredWest > > 78 Centennial Loop > > Suite E > > Eugene, OR 97401 > > 541-998- > > 541-998-5599 fax > > http://www.unwiredwest.com > > - Original Message - > > From: "Josh Luthman" > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:22 AM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hyperlink Coax Jumpers > > > > > > > I have used custom made ones from Tessco as well as the pre mades ones > > from > > > Wisp Router and other places. The last few years I have not had any > > > problems though it may have been due to the fact we put so much coax seal > > > around them. Do you seal it with coax seal (or comparable material)? > > > > > > Josh Luthman > > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > > 1100 Wayne St > > > Suite 1337 > > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. > > > --- Henry Spencer > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Mark Nash wrote: > > > > > > > We have had about 6 of these fail in the last few months, whereas prior > > to > > > > that we don't recall a problem. They are 2-ft NM-NM LMR195 jumpers > > from > > > > Hyperlink. > > > > > > > > Anyone else have a problem? > > > > > > > > Any recommendations on best source for them? > > > > > > > > We normally only use them on backhauls & APs, so when they go bad it's > > a > > > > big frustrating problem. > > > > > > > > Mark Nash > > > > UnwiredWest > > > > 78 Centennial Loop > > > > Suite E > > > > Eugene, OR 97401 > > > > 541-998- > > > > 541-998-5599 fax > > > > http://www.unwiredwest.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > -- > > -- > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- -- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > -- -- > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > -- -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
