Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?

[Brian Joseph Smith]

HI Tim,

As a vendor Member of WISPA, we work with Service Providers and helping provide 
Centurylink carrier grade access all the time.  Their agreements do not have 
restrictions for distribution over your network, they only limit “resale” which 
is taking the entire product and marking it up, then offering to a single third 
party.

If you send me your desired address or town, with speed I can get a couple 
options for you for symmetrical Ethernet service.  In many cases we see 1Gb 
local access down to $900 and a burst able port with 100Mb commit for $646.  
Fixed port where fiber exists might be $1350 for 100Mb.  All depends on the 
fiber being available. 

Best,

Brian


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Date:  Friday, June 10, 2016 at 8:41 AM
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Subject:  [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?

Does anyone have experience working with CenturyLink in regards to getting a 
proper circuit from that will legally allow you to resell bandwidth on it? In 
particular I know of a remote area that can get residential DSL but for miles 
and miles after that there is nothing. My hope is CenturyLink would convert 
that a business service would allow me to resell it. I'd be willing to extend 
from there outwards into areas that are completely without non satellite or 
cellular service.

Some quick Google work shows up only 1 relevant result and it would seem I 
would need to be a CLEC to make that work.

Being the peach they are usually to work with just looking for what others have 
experienced before I try to work through some phone trees at CenturyLink.

Thanks,

Tim
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Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?

[Robert Dillon]

We have used a Century Link 100Mb circuit for years since it was taken over 
from Qwest in our area.  It is a solid circuit, but quite pricey.  We have 
moved away from it a few years ago.  Per megabit went down to a 1/4 of the 
price of Century Link.



-Rob



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>From my experience they are outrageously overpriced.



-Tim A



From: Joe   Miller

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?



I have had some not so good experiences with their bonded T-1’s in the past. 
Maybe things have gotten better now.



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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 10:41 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?



Does anyone have experience working with CenturyLink in regards to getting a 
proper circuit from that will legally allow you to resell bandwidth on it? In 
particular I know of a remote area that can get residential DSL but for miles 
and miles after that there is nothing. My hope is CenturyLink would convert 
that a business service would allow me to resell it. I'd be willing to extend 
from there outwards into areas that are completely without non satellite or 
cellular service.



Some quick Google work shows up only 1 relevant result and it would seem I 
would need to be a CLEC to make that work.



Being the peach they are usually to work with just looking for what others have 
experienced before I try to work through some phone trees at CenturyLink.



Thanks,



Tim

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Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?

[Chadwick Wachs]

We had a contract with CL for a 100/100 fiber line ($1400 / month) and the
contract did allow us to resell it. We made sure that was the case prior to
signing the contract.  However, after 4 months of delays installing the
circuit in a building where they already had fiber, we cancelled.  They are
great at selling the product, not so great at delivering it.  But, pricing
was pretty competitive in our area.

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Tim Way  wrote:

> Does anyone have experience working with CenturyLink in regards to getting
> a proper circuit from that will legally allow you to resell bandwidth on
> it? In particular I know of a remote area that can get residential DSL but
> for miles and miles after that there is nothing. My hope is CenturyLink
> would convert that a business service would allow me to resell it. I'd be
> willing to extend from there outwards into areas that are completely
> without non satellite or cellular service.
>
> Some quick Google work shows up only 1 relevant result and it would seem I
> would need to be a CLEC to make that work.
>
> Being the peach they are usually to work with just looking for what others
> have experienced before I try to work through some phone trees at
> CenturyLink.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
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Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?

[Eric Tykwinski]

Tim,

 

I’m not sure, but you could check Ikano wholesale 
(http://www.ikano.com/companies/access/wholesale) out as well.  They weren’t 
bad to deal with on our out of state DSL 

services that I had to order for some of our larger local customers.

 

Sincerely,

 

Eric Tykwinski

TrueNet, Inc.

P: 610-429-8300

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Tim Way
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?

 

Does anyone have experience working with CenturyLink in regards to getting a 
proper circuit from that will legally allow you to resell bandwidth on it? In 
particular I know of a remote area that can get residential DSL but for miles 
and miles after that there is nothing. My hope is CenturyLink would convert 
that a business service would allow me to resell it. I'd be willing to extend 
from there outwards into areas that are completely without non satellite or 
cellular service.

 

Some quick Google work shows up only 1 relevant result and it would seem I 
would need to be a CLEC to make that work.

 

Being the peach they are usually to work with just looking for what others have 
experienced before I try to work through some phone trees at CenturyLink.

 

Thanks,

 

Tim

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Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?

[Robert Clark]

We have their fiber product they actually beat all other quotes for our area 
you do need to look at their contract closely we forced them to rewrite it to 
make it ok to resale we have a great sales guy so if you need anything else 
feel free to hit me off list





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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 9:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?



Yep, It was for re-distribution. Before the Merger/buyout we were quoted 800 a 
month for a 100mb Port with 100/100 Capacity. After the merger

the price is $4000 a month.



-Tim A



From: Tim Way 

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 8:59 AM

To: WISPA General List 

Subject: Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?



Thanks for the replies guys. So from both of your perspectives you were able to 
get legal service from them but you either had performance or cost issues?



Thanks,



Tim



On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 10:57 AM,  wrote:

>From my experience they are outrageously overpriced.



-Tim A



From: Joe Miller 

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 8:46 AM

To: 'WISPA General List' 

Subject: Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?



I have had some not so good experiences with their bonded T-1’s in the past. 
Maybe things have gotten better now.



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Of Tim Way
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 10:41 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?



Does anyone have experience working with CenturyLink in regards to getting a 
proper circuit from that will legally allow you to resell bandwidth on it? In 
particular I know of a remote area that can get residential DSL but for miles 
and miles after that there is nothing. My hope is CenturyLink would convert 
that a business service would allow me to resell it. I'd be willing to extend 
from there outwards into areas that are completely without non satellite or 
cellular service.



Some quick Google work shows up only 1 relevant result and it would seem I 
would need to be a CLEC to make that work.



Being the peach they are usually to work with just looking for what others have 
experienced before I try to work through some phone trees at CenturyLink.



Thanks,



Tim

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Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?

[tandrist]

Yep, It was for re-distribution. Before the Merger/buyout we were quoted 800 a 
month for a 100mb Port with 100/100 Capacity. After the merger
the price is $4000 a month.

-Tim A

From: Tim Way
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 8:59 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?

Thanks for the replies guys. So from both of your perspectives you were able to 
get legal service from them but you either had performance or cost issues?

Thanks,

Tim

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 10:57 AM,  wrote:

  From my experience they are outrageously overpriced.

  -Tim A

  From: Joe Miller
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 8:46 AM
  To: 'WISPA General List'
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?

  I have had some not so good experiences with their bonded T-1’s in the past. 
Maybe things have gotten better now.



  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Tim Way
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 10:41 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?



  Does anyone have experience working with CenturyLink in regards to getting a 
proper circuit from that will legally allow you to resell bandwidth on it? In 
particular I know of a remote area that can get residential DSL but for miles 
and miles after that there is nothing. My hope is CenturyLink would convert 
that a business service would allow me to resell it. I'd be willing to extend 
from there outwards into areas that are completely without non satellite or 
cellular service.



  Some quick Google work shows up only 1 relevant result and it would seem I 
would need to be a CLEC to make that work.



  Being the peach they are usually to work with just looking for what others 
have experienced before I try to work through some phone trees at CenturyLink.



  Thanks,



  Tim


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Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?

[Tim Way]

Thanks for the replies guys. So from both of your perspectives you were
able to get legal service from them but you either had performance or cost
issues?

Thanks,

Tim

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 10:57 AM,  wrote:

> From my experience they are outrageously overpriced.
>
> -Tim A
>
> *From:* Joe Miller 
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 8:46 AM
> *To:* 'WISPA General List' 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?
>
>
> I have had some not so good experiences with their bonded T-1’s in the
> past. Maybe things have gotten better now.
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Way
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2016 10:41 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?
>
>
>
> Does anyone have experience working with CenturyLink in regards to getting
> a proper circuit from that will legally allow you to resell bandwidth on
> it? In particular I know of a remote area that can get residential DSL but
> for miles and miles after that there is nothing. My hope is CenturyLink
> would convert that a business service would allow me to resell it. I'd be
> willing to extend from there outwards into areas that are completely
> without non satellite or cellular service.
>
>
>
> Some quick Google work shows up only 1 relevant result and it would seem I
> would need to be a CLEC to make that work.
>
>
>
> Being the peach they are usually to work with just looking for what others
> have experienced before I try to work through some phone trees at
> CenturyLink.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Tim
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Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?

[tandrist]

>From my experience they are outrageously overpriced.

-Tim A

From: Joe Miller
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 8:46 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?

I have had some not so good experiences with their bonded T-1’s in the past. 
Maybe things have gotten better now.



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Tim Way
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 10:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?



Does anyone have experience working with CenturyLink in regards to getting a 
proper circuit from that will legally allow you to resell bandwidth on it? In 
particular I know of a remote area that can get residential DSL but for miles 
and miles after that there is nothing. My hope is CenturyLink would convert 
that a business service would allow me to resell it. I'd be willing to extend 
from there outwards into areas that are completely without non satellite or 
cellular service.



Some quick Google work shows up only 1 relevant result and it would seem I 
would need to be a CLEC to make that work.



Being the peach they are usually to work with just looking for what others have 
experienced before I try to work through some phone trees at CenturyLink.



Thanks,



Tim




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Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?

[Joe Miller]

I have had some not so good experiences with their bonded T-1’s in the past. 
Maybe things have gotten better now.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Tim Way
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 10:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?

 

Does anyone have experience working with CenturyLink in regards to getting a 
proper circuit from that will legally allow you to resell bandwidth on it? In 
particular I know of a remote area that can get residential DSL but for miles 
and miles after that there is nothing. My hope is CenturyLink would convert 
that a business service would allow me to resell it. I'd be willing to extend 
from there outwards into areas that are completely without non satellite or 
cellular service.

 

Some quick Google work shows up only 1 relevant result and it would seem I 
would need to be a CLEC to make that work.

 

Being the peach they are usually to work with just looking for what others have 
experienced before I try to work through some phone trees at CenturyLink.

 

Thanks,

 

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[WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?

[Tim Way]

Does anyone have experience working with CenturyLink in regards to getting
a proper circuit from that will legally allow you to resell bandwidth on
it? In particular I know of a remote area that can get residential DSL but
for miles and miles after that there is nothing. My hope is CenturyLink
would convert that a business service would allow me to resell it. I'd be
willing to extend from there outwards into areas that are completely
without non satellite or cellular service.

Some quick Google work shows up only 1 relevant result and it would seem I
would need to be a CLEC to make that work.

Being the peach they are usually to work with just looking for what others
have experienced before I try to work through some phone trees at
CenturyLink.

Thanks,

Tim
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