Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
Everyone with this issue. I need some additional information... When the Mtik AP randomly dumps your clients, is it ONLY Tranzeo clients or do ALL clients associated to the wonky card drop? We are getting closer. ryan Travis Johnson wrote: This is great news, and hopefully something they can fix. HOWEVER, news about this problem was posted on their forums almost a full year ago, and they did nothing. I'm hoping (along with everyone else) that they can actually make it better, but I'm having a hard time with them because they continually make promises (about fixes, updates, etc.) that they never keep. :( Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Thank god, I knew I wasn't crazy all this time. I hope Mikrotik gets on the ball and fixes this soon. I love their choice of SBC's but right now I am forced to using StarOS because of this issue. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Don't thank me.. A vendor helped extensively with this... ryan Butch Evans wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, D. Ryan Spott wrote: There might be some traction on this issue. That's very nice work! Hopefully MT will now take this and run with it. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
It is all in most cases. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* D. Ryan Spott wrote: Everyone with this issue. I need some additional information... When the Mtik AP randomly dumps your clients, is it ONLY Tranzeo clients or do ALL clients associated to the wonky card drop? We are getting closer. ryan Travis Johnson wrote: This is great news, and hopefully something they can fix. HOWEVER, news about this problem was posted on their forums almost a full year ago, and they did nothing. I'm hoping (along with everyone else) that they can actually make it better, but I'm having a hard time with them because they continually make promises (about fixes, updates, etc.) that they never keep. :( Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Thank god, I knew I wasn't crazy all this time. I hope Mikrotik gets on the ball and fixes this soon. I love their choice of SBC's but right now I am forced to using StarOS because of this issue. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Don't thank me.. A vendor helped extensively with this... ryan Butch Evans wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, D. Ryan Spott wrote: There might be some traction on this issue. That's very nice work! Hopefully MT will now take this and run with it. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
In my case, it is just the Tranzeo SUs, my NanoStations, my MT with R52 and SR2 clients and Deliberents all stay connected. Bill Gaylord, COO COLI Inc. D. Ryan Spott wrote: Everyone with this issue. I need some additional information... When the Mtik AP randomly dumps your clients, is it ONLY Tranzeo clients or do ALL clients associated to the wonky card drop? We are getting closer. ryan Travis Johnson wrote: This is great news, and hopefully something they can fix. HOWEVER, news about this problem was posted on their forums almost a full year ago, and they did nothing. I'm hoping (along with everyone else) that they can actually make it better, but I'm having a hard time with them because they continually make promises (about fixes, updates, etc.) that they never keep. :( Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Thank god, I knew I wasn't crazy all this time. I hope Mikrotik gets on the ball and fixes this soon. I love their choice of SBC's but right now I am forced to using StarOS because of this issue. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Don't thank me.. A vendor helped extensively with this... ryan Butch Evans wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, D. Ryan Spott wrote: There might be some traction on this issue. That's very nice work! Hopefully MT will now take this and run with it. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
So far I'm only seeing Tranzeo. Not sure about linksys as I have only a few out there. And it's never smartbridges or cpe 200 units. Always, only cpq radios. Doesn't matter if either end or both ends are b or g mode. They all drop at the same time. marlon - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Everyone with this issue. I need some additional information... When the Mtik AP randomly dumps your clients, is it ONLY Tranzeo clients or do ALL clients associated to the wonky card drop? We are getting closer. ryan Travis Johnson wrote: This is great news, and hopefully something they can fix. HOWEVER, news about this problem was posted on their forums almost a full year ago, and they did nothing. I'm hoping (along with everyone else) that they can actually make it better, but I'm having a hard time with them because they continually make promises (about fixes, updates, etc.) that they never keep. :( Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Thank god, I knew I wasn't crazy all this time. I hope Mikrotik gets on the ball and fixes this soon. I love their choice of SBC's but right now I am forced to using StarOS because of this issue. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Don't thank me.. A vendor helped extensively with this... ryan Butch Evans wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, D. Ryan Spott wrote: There might be some traction on this issue. That's very nice work! Hopefully MT will now take this and run with it. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
Ryan, We don't even use Tranzeo equipment (it's all Mikrotik for AP and customers) and we see the same issue. Travis Microserv D. Ryan Spott wrote: Everyone with this issue. I need some additional information... When the Mtik AP randomly dumps your clients, is it ONLY Tranzeo clients or do ALL clients associated to the wonky card drop? We are getting closer. ryan Travis Johnson wrote: This is great news, and hopefully something they can fix. HOWEVER, news about this problem was posted on their forums almost a full year ago, and they did nothing. I'm hoping (along with everyone else) that they can actually make it better, but I'm having a hard time with them because they continually make promises (about fixes, updates, etc.) that they never keep. :( Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Thank god, I knew I wasn't crazy all this time. I hope Mikrotik gets on the ball and fixes this soon. I love their choice of SBC's but right now I am forced to using StarOS because of this issue. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Don't thank me.. A vendor helped extensively with this... ryan Butch Evans wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, D. Ryan Spott wrote: There might be some traction on this issue. That's very nice work! Hopefully MT will now take this and run with it. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
It varies, sometimes the CPQ's are the only thing that drop, and other times everything (including Mikrotik CPE's) drop also. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Everyone with this issue. I need some additional information... When the Mtik AP randomly dumps your clients, is it ONLY Tranzeo clients or do ALL clients associated to the wonky card drop? We are getting closer. ryan Travis Johnson wrote: This is great news, and hopefully something they can fix. HOWEVER, news about this problem was posted on their forums almost a full year ago, and they did nothing. I'm hoping (along with everyone else) that they can actually make it better, but I'm having a hard time with them because they continually make promises (about fixes, updates, etc.) that they never keep. :( Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Thank god, I knew I wasn't crazy all this time. I hope Mikrotik gets on the ball and fixes this soon. I love their choice of SBC's but right now I am forced to using StarOS because of this issue. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Don't thank me.. A vendor helped extensively with this... ryan Butch Evans wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, D. Ryan Spott wrote: There might be some traction on this issue. That's very nice work! Hopefully MT will now take this and run with it. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
There might be some traction on this issue. Please see: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=7t=24971start=0st=0sk=tsd=a ryan Marlon K. Schafer wrote: YES But with me it's only dropping the Tranzeo CPQ client radios. Sure wish we'd get a fix for this. I reported it many months ago. New software versions haven't fixed it. Some even make it worse. sigh marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:13 AM Subject: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. Now since it happens so fast most people just web browsing don't know it but the people that are connected to online gaming and people using vonage are about ready to shoot me. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, D. Ryan Spott wrote: There might be some traction on this issue. That's very nice work! Hopefully MT will now take this and run with it. -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
Don't thank me.. A vendor helped extensively with this... ryan Butch Evans wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, D. Ryan Spott wrote: There might be some traction on this issue. That's very nice work! Hopefully MT will now take this and run with it. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, D. Ryan Spott wrote: Don't thank me.. A vendor helped extensively with this... Either way, it's something that needed to be done. I don't have any tranzeo radios here to test this kind of stuff with. I'm glad someone got it, even if it wasn't you. ;-) SO thanks to anyone who helped. -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
Thank god, I knew I wasn't crazy all this time. I hope Mikrotik gets on the ball and fixes this soon. I love their choice of SBC's but right now I am forced to using StarOS because of this issue. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Don't thank me.. A vendor helped extensively with this... ryan Butch Evans wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, D. Ryan Spott wrote: There might be some traction on this issue. That's very nice work! Hopefully MT will now take this and run with it. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
This is great news, and hopefully something they can fix. HOWEVER, news about this problem was posted on their forums almost a full year ago, and they did nothing. I'm hoping (along with everyone else) that they can actually make it better, but I'm having a hard time with them because they continually make promises (about fixes, updates, etc.) that they never keep. :( Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Thank god, I knew I wasn't crazy all this time. I hope Mikrotik gets on the ball and fixes this soon. I love their choice of SBC's but right now I am forced to using StarOS because of this issue. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Don't thank me.. A vendor helped extensively with this... ryan Butch Evans wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, D. Ryan Spott wrote: There might be some traction on this issue. That's very nice work! Hopefully MT will now take this and run with it. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
A vendor helped extensively with this... May I ask who that vendor was? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Don't thank me.. A vendor helped extensively with this... ryan Butch Evans wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, D. Ryan Spott wrote: There might be some traction on this issue. That's very nice work! Hopefully MT will now take this and run with it. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
Are the 400 series still only Verticle Pol and internal antenna CPEs w/ 8dbi antennas? (note- understanding that they also have external antenna models) Sounds like it will be a good option for 5.8G OFDM, when they are available. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. It's pricey but not quite Alvarion bad. Under $3k per AP and $500 CPE. One major difference is that it is OFDM. In terms of speed, if the Advantage is 2X the original Canopy, the 400 series is 3X the original Canopy. Plus, it has GPS sync. What is the Canopy 400 series? How does that compare to the Advantage series? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Travis, This was my main reason for being such a critical opponent to your request for Mikrotik support. We fought with Mikrotik over a year to get them to fix the issues and it never happened. We finally stopped about a year ago and went back to Canopy and Alvarion. (More Canopy lately with the 400 series) I can't tell you the number of supouts we sent or the number of tests we ran. We'd be up in the middle of the night, reconfiguring every CPE with different settings and then changing the APs based on their recommendations. Basically, we were doing their field testing for them and to no avail. Nothing they recommended fixed things. They finally said that we didn't have enough horsepower at the AP. So, we bought super powerful PCs for APs. Again, no help. Now they have their own super powerful hardware and it still hasn't fixed the issue. So, for the savings of money on equipment, we invested a lot in R D for both time and dollars. (I have tons of dead equipment sitting here that didn't work.) So, when adding up all the hours debugging for Mikrotik (with no results) and the extra equipment we had to buy to make things work, we bailed. Canopy and Alvarion are cheaper in the long run and we sleep more. We use Mikrotik for a lot of our routers and most of the fights we have fought there have been won. (BGP and OSPF) However, wireless never got better. (For PtMP) As far as support, Alvarion has been fantastic and thrown many resources our way. Although, we haven't needed them lately. Canopy has a large base with lots of third party options and community support. When problems with Canopy have come up, we do see them working on resolving them and software upgrades reflect that. I think Mikrotik's place for us has been reduced to mostly local repeaters. I have many (over 40) MT AP's with SR5 cards on the AP side and Compex WLM54SAG cards on the client side, with RB411's as well. All my clients are the same, and running MT, and they all do the same thing. :(br br Once again, MT is aware of the problem, but rather than fix it, they decide to work on 802.11n support. Who do they think is going to buy more product with 802.11n support when their current product doesn't even work?br br Travisbr Microservbr br Kurt Fankhauser wrote: blockquote cite=mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] type=cite pre wrap=Butch, Nope, I am using the senao NMP-8602+ card on all these AP's. From what I can tell this problem shows its face when you have a mixed CPE's consisting of PRISM/Atheros chipsets. Can I solve this problem by removeing all the PRISM clients At this point I am willing to invest in replacing our old CB3/CPE-200 stuff anyways as it only makes up 10% of my network. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=http://www.wavelinc.com;www.wavelinc.com/a -Original Message- From: a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/a [a class=moz-txt-link-freetext href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/a] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: /pre blockquote type=cite pre wrap=Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
AP has an external antenna and the integrated CPE is more like 17dBi. It's about twice the width and a little taller than regular Canopy. No external option on the 5.4GHz model. Are the 400 series still only Verticle Pol and internal antenna CPEs w/ 8dbi antennas? (note- understanding that they also have external antenna models) Sounds like it will be a good option for 5.8G OFDM, when they are available. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. It's pricey but not quite Alvarion bad. Under $3k per AP and $500 CPE. One major difference is that it is OFDM. In terms of speed, if the Advantage is 2X the original Canopy, the 400 series is 3X the original Canopy. Plus, it has GPS sync. What is the Canopy 400 series? How does that compare to the Advantage series? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Travis, This was my main reason for being such a critical opponent to your request for Mikrotik support. We fought with Mikrotik over a year to get them to fix the issues and it never happened. We finally stopped about a year ago and went back to Canopy and Alvarion. (More Canopy lately with the 400 series) I can't tell you the number of supouts we sent or the number of tests we ran. We'd be up in the middle of the night, reconfiguring every CPE with different settings and then changing the APs based on their recommendations. Basically, we were doing their field testing for them and to no avail. Nothing they recommended fixed things. They finally said that we didn't have enough horsepower at the AP. So, we bought super powerful PCs for APs. Again, no help. Now they have their own super powerful hardware and it still hasn't fixed the issue. So, for the savings of money on equipment, we invested a lot in R D for both time and dollars. (I have tons of dead equipment sitting here that didn't work.) So, when adding up all the hours debugging for Mikrotik (with no results) and the extra equipment we had to buy to make things work, we bailed. Canopy and Alvarion are cheaper in the long run and we sleep more. We use Mikrotik for a lot of our routers and most of the fights we have fought there have been won. (BGP and OSPF) However, wireless never got better. (For PtMP) As far as support, Alvarion has been fantastic and thrown many resources our way. Although, we haven't needed them lately. Canopy has a large base with lots of third party options and community support. When problems with Canopy have come up, we do see them working on resolving them and software upgrades reflect that. I think Mikrotik's place for us has been reduced to mostly local repeaters. I have many (over 40) MT AP's with SR5 cards on the AP side and Compex WLM54SAG cards on the client side, with RB411's as well. All my clients are the same, and running MT, and they all do the same thing. :(br br Once again, MT is aware of the problem, but rather than fix it, they decide to work on 802.11n support. Who do they think is going to buy more product with 802.11n support when their current product doesn't even work?br br Travisbr Microservbr br Kurt Fankhauser wrote: blockquote cite=mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] type=cite pre wrap=Butch, Nope, I am using the senao NMP-8602+ card on all these AP's. From what I can tell this problem shows its face when you have a mixed CPE's consisting of PRISM/Atheros chipsets. Can I solve this problem by removeing all the PRISM clients At this point I am willing to invest in replacing our old CB3/CPE-200 stuff anyways as it only makes up 10% of my network. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=http://www.wavelinc.com;www.wavelinc.com/a -Original Message- From: a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/a [a class=moz-txt-link-freetext href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/a] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: /pre blockquote type=cite pre wrap=Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
Alvarion are at least $50 more per CPE.Canopy I WISH Alvarion was only $50 more per CPE. If it were, It would be all I used, even if it meant $7500 over 150 CPEs. But in my case, for 54mbps modulation CPEs Mikrotik- Ap $350, su $300, ($650 total) Alvarion- Ap $8000, su $1500 ( $9500 total). I can install 15 Mikrotik customers/buildings for every one Alvarion (15x the capacity). Bust most importantly Mikrotik enables funding buildouts via cash flow, which is invaluable. I really truly love Alvarion's support and product reliabilty, and still think its one of the higher quality products on the market. But I'll never be able to take advantage of it's offering, at those prices. I don't care how good it is, it just isn't worth 15x the cost. Its actually much much more than 15x the cost, once you start factoring that Mikrotiks have multiple ports, and can add AP relay cards/antenna at just $100 each. In my opinion Alvarion will never amount to anything other than a residential CPE, as long as they insist on the crippleware model, to pretend its affordable. And for the residential model, $50 a CPE does make a difference. The Alvarion was designed for the SuperCell model, which is a thing of the past, based on today's noise floor and end users' new speed requirements. The Lucaya, Ligo, Mikrotik type platforms' value propositions, just can't be ignored anymore. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Hi, I understand what you are saying... but I also understand that Canopy and Alvarion are at least $50 more per CPE. So to do 150 installs per month x $50 = $7,500 per month in savings it's pretty hard to just give up. Right now we are doing 30 customers per AP and it's working pretty well... even the gamers seem happy again. Mikrotik told me just today that it is next on their list after adding 802.11n support. I guess we'll see if they can actually make things better. Travis Microserv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Travis, This was my main reason for being such a critical opponent to your request for Mikrotik support. We fought with Mikrotik over a year to get them to fix the issues and it never happened. We finally stopped about a year ago and went back to Canopy and Alvarion. (More Canopy lately with the 400 series) I can't tell you the number of supouts we sent or the number of tests we ran. We'd be up in the middle of the night, reconfiguring every CPE with different settings and then changing the APs based on their recommendations. Basically, we were doing their field testing for them and to no avail. Nothing they recommended fixed things. They finally said that we didn't have enough horsepower at the AP. So, we bought super powerful PCs for APs. Again, no help. Now they have their own super powerful hardware and it still hasn't fixed the issue. So, for the savings of money on equipment, we invested a lot in R D for both time and dollars. (I have tons of dead equipment sitting here that didn't work.) So, when adding up all the hours debugging for Mikrotik (with no results) and the extra equipment we had to buy to make things work, we bailed. Canopy and Alvarion are cheaper in the long run and we sleep more. We use Mikrotik for a lot of our routers and most of the fights we have fought there have been won. (BGP and OSPF) However, wireless never got better. (For PtMP) As far as support, Alvarion has been fantastic and thrown many resources our way. Although, we haven't needed them lately. Canopy has a large base with lots of third party options and community support. When problems with Canopy have come up, we do see them working on resolving them and software upgrades reflect that. I think Mikrotik's place for us has been reduced to mostly local repeaters. I have many (over 40) MT AP's with SR5 cards on the AP side and Compex WLM54SAG cards on the client side, with RB411's as well. All my clients are the same, and running MT, and they all do the same thing. :(br br Once again, MT is aware of the problem, but rather than fix it, they decide to work on 802.11n support. Who do they think is going to buy more product with 802.11n support when their current product doesn't even work?br br Travisbr Microservbr br Kurt Fankhauser wrote: blockquote cite=mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] type=cite pre wrap=Butch, Nope, I am using the senao NMP-8602+ card on all these AP's. From what I can tell this problem shows its face when you have a mixed CPE's consisting of PRISM/Atheros chipsets. Can I solve this problem by removeing all the PRISM clients At this point I am willing to invest in replacing our old CB3/CPE-200 stuff anyways as it only makes up 10% of my network. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
What is the Canopy 400 series? How does that compare to the Advantage series? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Travis, This was my main reason for being such a critical opponent to your request for Mikrotik support. We fought with Mikrotik over a year to get them to fix the issues and it never happened. We finally stopped about a year ago and went back to Canopy and Alvarion. (More Canopy lately with the 400 series) I can't tell you the number of supouts we sent or the number of tests we ran. We'd be up in the middle of the night, reconfiguring every CPE with different settings and then changing the APs based on their recommendations. Basically, we were doing their field testing for them and to no avail. Nothing they recommended fixed things. They finally said that we didn't have enough horsepower at the AP. So, we bought super powerful PCs for APs. Again, no help. Now they have their own super powerful hardware and it still hasn't fixed the issue. So, for the savings of money on equipment, we invested a lot in R D for both time and dollars. (I have tons of dead equipment sitting here that didn't work.) So, when adding up all the hours debugging for Mikrotik (with no results) and the extra equipment we had to buy to make things work, we bailed. Canopy and Alvarion are cheaper in the long run and we sleep more. We use Mikrotik for a lot of our routers and most of the fights we have fought there have been won. (BGP and OSPF) However, wireless never got better. (For PtMP) As far as support, Alvarion has been fantastic and thrown many resources our way. Although, we haven't needed them lately. Canopy has a large base with lots of third party options and community support. When problems with Canopy have come up, we do see them working on resolving them and software upgrades reflect that. I think Mikrotik's place for us has been reduced to mostly local repeaters. I have many (over 40) MT AP's with SR5 cards on the AP side and Compex WLM54SAG cards on the client side, with RB411's as well. All my clients are the same, and running MT, and they all do the same thing. :(br br Once again, MT is aware of the problem, but rather than fix it, they decide to work on 802.11n support. Who do they think is going to buy more product with 802.11n support when their current product doesn't even work?br br Travisbr Microservbr br Kurt Fankhauser wrote: blockquote cite=mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] type=cite pre wrap=Butch, Nope, I am using the senao NMP-8602+ card on all these AP's. From what I can tell this problem shows its face when you have a mixed CPE's consisting of PRISM/Atheros chipsets. Can I solve this problem by removeing all the PRISM clients At this point I am willing to invest in replacing our old CB3/CPE-200 stuff anyways as it only makes up 10% of my network. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=http://www.wavelinc.com;www.wavelinc.com/a -Original Message- From: a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/a [a class=moz-txt-link-freetext href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/a] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: /pre blockquote type=cite pre wrap=Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. /pre /blockquote pre wrap=! Let me guess...you are using the XR2 or XR5? This is a known issue that is especially bad with Tranzeo client radios and XR2 at the AP. As someone else mentioned, there is a lot of finger pointing going on relating to this issue. From what I can tell, this issue does not have a negative impact on Mikrotik CPE (or most other CPEs for that matter). /pre /blockquote /body /html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
Canopy 400 series is Motorola 5.4GHz (5.8 GHz is coming) OFDM Point to Multipoint Product. Check it out: http://tinyurl.com/6ka7nc Great hardware, and pushes 20Mb with no problems. Viable contender for the WiMAX Market, at a much lower price point. Cheaper than Alvarion too (although more expensive than Canopy AP's and regular Canopy SM's) Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. What is the Canopy 400 series? How does that compare to the Advantage series? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Travis, This was my main reason for being such a critical opponent to your request for Mikrotik support. We fought with Mikrotik over a year to get them to fix the issues and it never happened. We finally stopped about a year ago and went back to Canopy and Alvarion. (More Canopy lately with the 400 series) I can't tell you the number of supouts we sent or the number of tests we ran. We'd be up in the middle of the night, reconfiguring every CPE with different settings and then changing the APs based on their recommendations. Basically, we were doing their field testing for them and to no avail. Nothing they recommended fixed things. They finally said that we didn't have enough horsepower at the AP. So, we bought super powerful PCs for APs. Again, no help. Now they have their own super powerful hardware and it still hasn't fixed the issue. So, for the savings of money on equipment, we invested a lot in R D for both time and dollars. (I have tons of dead equipment sitting here that didn't work.) So, when adding up all the hours debugging for Mikrotik (with no results) and the extra equipment we had to buy to make things work, we bailed. Canopy and Alvarion are cheaper in the long run and we sleep more. We use Mikrotik for a lot of our routers and most of the fights we have fought there have been won. (BGP and OSPF) However, wireless never got better. (For PtMP) As far as support, Alvarion has been fantastic and thrown many resources our way. Although, we haven't needed them lately. Canopy has a large base with lots of third party options and community support. When problems with Canopy have come up, we do see them working on resolving them and software upgrades reflect that. I think Mikrotik's place for us has been reduced to mostly local repeaters. I have many (over 40) MT AP's with SR5 cards on the AP side and Compex WLM54SAG cards on the client side, with RB411's as well. All my clients are the same, and running MT, and they all do the same thing. :(br br Once again, MT is aware of the problem, but rather than fix it, they decide to work on 802.11n support. Who do they think is going to buy more product with 802.11n support when their current product doesn't even work?br br Travisbr Microservbr br Kurt Fankhauser wrote: blockquote cite=mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] type=cite pre wrap=Butch, Nope, I am using the senao NMP-8602+ card on all these AP's. From what I can tell this problem shows its face when you have a mixed CPE's consisting of PRISM/Atheros chipsets. Can I solve this problem by removeing all the PRISM clients At this point I am willing to invest in replacing our old CB3/CPE-200 stuff anyways as it only makes up 10% of my network. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=http://www.wavelinc.com;www.wavelinc.com/a -Original Message- From: a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/a [a class=moz-txt-link-freetext href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ a] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: /pre blockquote type=cite pre wrap=Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. /pre /blockquote pre wrap=! Let me guess...you are using the XR2 or XR5? This is a known issue
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
It's pricey but not quite Alvarion bad. Under $3k per AP and $500 CPE. One major difference is that it is OFDM. In terms of speed, if the Advantage is 2X the original Canopy, the 400 series is 3X the original Canopy. Plus, it has GPS sync. What is the Canopy 400 series? How does that compare to the Advantage series? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Travis, This was my main reason for being such a critical opponent to your request for Mikrotik support. We fought with Mikrotik over a year to get them to fix the issues and it never happened. We finally stopped about a year ago and went back to Canopy and Alvarion. (More Canopy lately with the 400 series) I can't tell you the number of supouts we sent or the number of tests we ran. We'd be up in the middle of the night, reconfiguring every CPE with different settings and then changing the APs based on their recommendations. Basically, we were doing their field testing for them and to no avail. Nothing they recommended fixed things. They finally said that we didn't have enough horsepower at the AP. So, we bought super powerful PCs for APs. Again, no help. Now they have their own super powerful hardware and it still hasn't fixed the issue. So, for the savings of money on equipment, we invested a lot in R D for both time and dollars. (I have tons of dead equipment sitting here that didn't work.) So, when adding up all the hours debugging for Mikrotik (with no results) and the extra equipment we had to buy to make things work, we bailed. Canopy and Alvarion are cheaper in the long run and we sleep more. We use Mikrotik for a lot of our routers and most of the fights we have fought there have been won. (BGP and OSPF) However, wireless never got better. (For PtMP) As far as support, Alvarion has been fantastic and thrown many resources our way. Although, we haven't needed them lately. Canopy has a large base with lots of third party options and community support. When problems with Canopy have come up, we do see them working on resolving them and software upgrades reflect that. I think Mikrotik's place for us has been reduced to mostly local repeaters. I have many (over 40) MT AP's with SR5 cards on the AP side and Compex WLM54SAG cards on the client side, with RB411's as well. All my clients are the same, and running MT, and they all do the same thing. :(br br Once again, MT is aware of the problem, but rather than fix it, they decide to work on 802.11n support. Who do they think is going to buy more product with 802.11n support when their current product doesn't even work?br br Travisbr Microservbr br Kurt Fankhauser wrote: blockquote cite=mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] type=cite pre wrap=Butch, Nope, I am using the senao NMP-8602+ card on all these AP's. From what I can tell this problem shows its face when you have a mixed CPE's consisting of PRISM/Atheros chipsets. Can I solve this problem by removeing all the PRISM clients At this point I am willing to invest in replacing our old CB3/CPE-200 stuff anyways as it only makes up 10% of my network. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=http://www.wavelinc.com;www.wavelinc.com/a -Original Message- From: a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/a [a class=moz-txt-link-freetext href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/a] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: /pre blockquote type=cite pre wrap=Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. /pre /blockquote pre wrap=! Let me guess...you are using the XR2 or XR5? This is a known issue that is especially bad with Tranzeo client radios and XR2 at the AP. As someone else mentioned, there is a lot of finger pointing going on relating to this issue. From what I can tell, this issue does not have a negative impact on Mikrotik CPE (or most other CPEs for that matter). /pre /blockquote /body /html
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
I know you were just throwing numbers out there, but my MT CPE are $150 and just the antennas for the APs are $350. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:46 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Alvarion are at least $50 more per CPE.Canopy I WISH Alvarion was only $50 more per CPE. If it were, It would be all I used, even if it meant $7500 over 150 CPEs. But in my case, for 54mbps modulation CPEs Mikrotik- Ap $350, su $300, ($650 total) Alvarion- Ap $8000, su $1500 ( $9500 total). I can install 15 Mikrotik customers/buildings for every one Alvarion (15x the capacity). Bust most importantly Mikrotik enables funding buildouts via cash flow, which is invaluable. I really truly love Alvarion's support and product reliabilty, and still think its one of the higher quality products on the market. But I'll never be able to take advantage of it's offering, at those prices. I don't care how good it is, it just isn't worth 15x the cost. Its actually much much more than 15x the cost, once you start factoring that Mikrotiks have multiple ports, and can add AP relay cards/antenna at just $100 each. In my opinion Alvarion will never amount to anything other than a residential CPE, as long as they insist on the crippleware model, to pretend its affordable. And for the residential model, $50 a CPE does make a difference. The Alvarion was designed for the SuperCell model, which is a thing of the past, based on today's noise floor and end users' new speed requirements. The Lucaya, Ligo, Mikrotik type platforms' value propositions, just can't be ignored anymore. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Hi, I understand what you are saying... but I also understand that Canopy and Alvarion are at least $50 more per CPE. So to do 150 installs per month x $50 = $7,500 per month in savings it's pretty hard to just give up. Right now we are doing 30 customers per AP and it's working pretty well... even the gamers seem happy again. Mikrotik told me just today that it is next on their list after adding 802.11n support. I guess we'll see if they can actually make things better. Travis Microserv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Travis, This was my main reason for being such a critical opponent to your request for Mikrotik support. We fought with Mikrotik over a year to get them to fix the issues and it never happened. We finally stopped about a year ago and went back to Canopy and Alvarion. (More Canopy lately with the 400 series) I can't tell you the number of supouts we sent or the number of tests we ran. We'd be up in the middle of the night, reconfiguring every CPE with different settings and then changing the APs based on their recommendations. Basically, we were doing their field testing for them and to no avail. Nothing they recommended fixed things. They finally said that we didn't have enough horsepower at the AP. So, we bought super powerful PCs for APs. Again, no help. Now they have their own super powerful hardware and it still hasn't fixed the issue. So, for the savings of money on equipment, we invested a lot in R D for both time and dollars. (I have tons of dead equipment sitting here that didn't work.) So, when adding up all the hours debugging for Mikrotik (with no results) and the extra equipment we had to buy to make things work, we bailed. Canopy and Alvarion are cheaper in the long run and we sleep more. We use Mikrotik for a lot of our routers and most of the fights we have fought there have been won. (BGP and OSPF) However, wireless never got better. (For PtMP) As far as support, Alvarion has been fantastic and thrown many resources our way. Although, we haven't needed them lately. Canopy has a large base with lots of third party options and community support. When problems with Canopy have come up, we do see them working on resolving them and software upgrades reflect that. I think Mikrotik's place for us has been reduced to mostly local repeaters. I have many (over 40) MT AP's with SR5 cards on the AP side and Compex WLM54SAG cards on the client side, with RB411's as well. All my clients are the same, and running MT, and they all do the same thing. :(br br Once again, MT is aware of the problem, but rather than fix it, they decide to work on 802.11n support. Who do they think is going to buy more product with 802.11n support when their current product doesn't even work?br br Travisbr Microservbr
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
I believe it's an Orthogon radio. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:47 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. What is the Canopy 400 series? How does that compare to the Advantage series? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Travis, This was my main reason for being such a critical opponent to your request for Mikrotik support. We fought with Mikrotik over a year to get them to fix the issues and it never happened. We finally stopped about a year ago and went back to Canopy and Alvarion. (More Canopy lately with the 400 series) I can't tell you the number of supouts we sent or the number of tests we ran. We'd be up in the middle of the night, reconfiguring every CPE with different settings and then changing the APs based on their recommendations. Basically, we were doing their field testing for them and to no avail. Nothing they recommended fixed things. They finally said that we didn't have enough horsepower at the AP. So, we bought super powerful PCs for APs. Again, no help. Now they have their own super powerful hardware and it still hasn't fixed the issue. So, for the savings of money on equipment, we invested a lot in R D for both time and dollars. (I have tons of dead equipment sitting here that didn't work.) So, when adding up all the hours debugging for Mikrotik (with no results) and the extra equipment we had to buy to make things work, we bailed. Canopy and Alvarion are cheaper in the long run and we sleep more. We use Mikrotik for a lot of our routers and most of the fights we have fought there have been won. (BGP and OSPF) However, wireless never got better. (For PtMP) As far as support, Alvarion has been fantastic and thrown many resources our way. Although, we haven't needed them lately. Canopy has a large base with lots of third party options and community support. When problems with Canopy have come up, we do see them working on resolving them and software upgrades reflect that. I think Mikrotik's place for us has been reduced to mostly local repeaters. I have many (over 40) MT AP's with SR5 cards on the AP side and Compex WLM54SAG cards on the client side, with RB411's as well. All my clients are the same, and running MT, and they all do the same thing. :(br br Once again, MT is aware of the problem, but rather than fix it, they decide to work on 802.11n support. Who do they think is going to buy more product with 802.11n support when their current product doesn't even work?br br Travisbr Microservbr br Kurt Fankhauser wrote: blockquote cite=mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] type=cite pre wrap=Butch, Nope, I am using the senao NMP-8602+ card on all these AP's. From what I can tell this problem shows its face when you have a mixed CPE's consisting of PRISM/Atheros chipsets. Can I solve this problem by removeing all the PRISM clients At this point I am willing to invest in replacing our old CB3/CPE-200 stuff anyways as it only makes up 10% of my network. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=http://www.wavelinc.com;www.wavelinc.com/a -Original Message- From: a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/a [a class=moz-txt-link-freetext href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/a] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: /pre blockquote type=cite pre wrap=Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. /pre /blockquote pre wrap=! Let me guess...you are using the XR2 or XR5? This is a known issue that is especially bad with Tranzeo client radios and XR2 at the AP. As someone else mentioned, there is a lot of finger pointing going on relating to this issue. From what I can tell, this issue does not have a negative impact on Mikrotik CPE
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
I have many (over 40) MT AP's with SR5 cards on the AP side and Compex WLM54SAG cards on the client side, with RB411's as well. All my clients are the same, and running MT, and they all do the same thing. :( Once again, MT is aware of the problem, but rather than fix it, they decide to work on 802.11n support. Who do they think is going to buy more product with 802.11n support when their current product doesn't even work? Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Butch, Nope, I am using the senao NMP-8602+ card on all these AP's. From what I can tell this problem shows its face when you have a mixed CPE's consisting of PRISM/Atheros chipsets. Can I solve this problem by removeing all the PRISM clients At this point I am willing to invest in replacing our old CB3/CPE-200 stuff anyways as it only makes up 10% of my network. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. Let me guess...you are using the XR2 or XR5? This is a known issue that is especially bad with Tranzeo client radios and XR2 at the AP. As someone else mentioned, there is a lot of finger pointing going on relating to this issue. From what I can tell, this issue does not have a negative impact on Mikrotik CPE (or most other CPEs for that matter). WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
Travis, This was my main reason for being such a critical opponent to your request for Mikrotik support. We fought with Mikrotik over a year to get them to fix the issues and it never happened. We finally stopped about a year ago and went back to Canopy and Alvarion. (More Canopy lately with the 400 series) I can't tell you the number of supouts we sent or the number of tests we ran. We'd be up in the middle of the night, reconfiguring every CPE with different settings and then changing the APs based on their recommendations. Basically, we were doing their field testing for them and to no avail. Nothing they recommended fixed things. They finally said that we didn't have enough horsepower at the AP. So, we bought super powerful PCs for APs. Again, no help. Now they have their own super powerful hardware and it still hasn't fixed the issue. So, for the savings of money on equipment, we invested a lot in R D for both time and dollars. (I have tons of dead equipment sitting here that didn't work.) So, when adding up all the hours debugging for Mikrotik (with no results) and the extra equipment we had to buy to make things work, we bailed. Canopy and Alvarion are cheaper in the long run and we sleep more. We use Mikrotik for a lot of our routers and most of the fights we have fought there have been won. (BGP and OSPF) However, wireless never got better. (For PtMP) As far as support, Alvarion has been fantastic and thrown many resources our way. Although, we haven't needed them lately. Canopy has a large base with lots of third party options and community support. When problems with Canopy have come up, we do see them working on resolving them and software upgrades reflect that. I think Mikrotik's place for us has been reduced to mostly local repeaters. I have many (over 40) MT AP's with SR5 cards on the AP side and Compex WLM54SAG cards on the client side, with RB411's as well. All my clients are the same, and running MT, and they all do the same thing. :(br br Once again, MT is aware of the problem, but rather than fix it, they decide to work on 802.11n support. Who do they think is going to buy more product with 802.11n support when their current product doesn't even work?br br Travisbr Microservbr br Kurt Fankhauser wrote: blockquote cite=mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] type=cite pre wrap=Butch, Nope, I am using the senao NMP-8602+ card on all these AP's. From what I can tell this problem shows its face when you have a mixed CPE's consisting of PRISM/Atheros chipsets. Can I solve this problem by removeing all the PRISM clients At this point I am willing to invest in replacing our old CB3/CPE-200 stuff anyways as it only makes up 10% of my network. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=http://www.wavelinc.com;www.wavelinc.com/a -Original Message- From: a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/a [a class=moz-txt-link-freetext href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/a] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: /pre blockquote type=cite pre wrap=Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. /pre /blockquote pre wrap=! Let me guess...you are using the XR2 or XR5? This is a known issue that is especially bad with Tranzeo client radios and XR2 at the AP. As someone else mentioned, there is a lot of finger pointing going on relating to this issue. From what I can tell, this issue does not have a negative impact on Mikrotik CPE (or most other CPEs for that matter). /pre /blockquote /body /html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
Hi, I understand what you are saying... but I also understand that Canopy and Alvarion are at least $50 more per CPE. So to do 150 installs per month x $50 = $7,500 per month in savings it's pretty hard to just give up. Right now we are doing 30 customers per AP and it's working pretty well... even the gamers seem happy again. Mikrotik told me just today that it is next on their list after adding 802.11n support. I guess we'll see if they can actually make things better. Travis Microserv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Travis, This was my main reason for being such a critical opponent to your request for Mikrotik support. We fought with Mikrotik over a year to get them to fix the issues and it never happened. We finally stopped about a year ago and went back to Canopy and Alvarion. (More Canopy lately with the 400 series) I can't tell you the number of supouts we sent or the number of tests we ran. We'd be up in the middle of the night, reconfiguring every CPE with different settings and then changing the APs based on their recommendations. Basically, we were doing their field testing for them and to no avail. Nothing they recommended fixed things. They finally said that we didn't have enough horsepower at the AP. So, we bought super powerful PCs for APs. Again, no help. Now they have their own super powerful hardware and it still hasn't fixed the issue. So, for the savings of money on equipment, we invested a lot in R D for both time and dollars. (I have tons of dead equipment sitting here that didn't work.) So, when adding up all the hours debugging for Mikrotik (with no results) and the extra equipment we had to buy to make things work, we bailed. Canopy and Alvarion are cheaper in the long run and we sleep more. We use Mikrotik for a lot of our routers and most of the fights we have fought there have been won. (BGP and OSPF) However, wireless never got better. (For PtMP) As far as support, Alvarion has been fantastic and thrown many resources our way. Although, we haven't needed them lately. Canopy has a large base with lots of third party options and community support. When problems with Canopy have come up, we do see them working on resolving them and software upgrades reflect that. I think Mikrotik's place for us has been reduced to mostly local repeaters. I have many (over 40) MT AP's with SR5 cards on the AP side and Compex WLM54SAG cards on the client side, with RB411's as well. All my clients are the same, and running MT, and they all do the same thing. :(br br Once again, MT is aware of the problem, but rather than fix it, they decide to work on 802.11n support. Who do they think is going to buy more product with 802.11n support when their current product doesn't even work?br br Travisbr Microservbr br Kurt Fankhauser wrote: blockquote cite="" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">"mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" type="cite" pre wrap=""Butch, Nope, I am using the senao NMP-8602+ card on all these AP's. From what I can tell this problem shows its face when you have a mixed CPE's consisting of PRISM/Atheros chipsets. Can I solve this problem by removeing all the PRISM clients At this point I am willing to invest in replacing our old CB3/CPE-200 stuff anyways as it only makes up 10% of my network. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.wavelinc.com">"http://www.wavelinc.com"www.wavelinc.com/a -Original Message- From: a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/a [a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/a] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: /pre blockquote type="cite" pre wrap=""Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. /pre /blockquote pre wrap=""! Let me guess...you are usi
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
YES But with me it's only dropping the Tranzeo CPQ client radios. Sure wish we'd get a fix for this. I reported it many months ago. New software versions haven't fixed it. Some even make it worse. sigh marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:13 AM Subject: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. Now since it happens so fast most people just web browsing don't know it but the people that are connected to online gaming and people using vonage are about ready to shoot me. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. Let me guess...you are using the XR2 or XR5? This is a known issue that is especially bad with Tranzeo client radios and XR2 at the AP. As someone else mentioned, there is a lot of finger pointing going on relating to this issue. From what I can tell, this issue does not have a negative impact on Mikrotik CPE (or most other CPEs for that matter). -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
Butch, Nope, I am using the senao NMP-8602+ card on all these AP's. From what I can tell this problem shows its face when you have a mixed CPE's consisting of PRISM/Atheros chipsets. Can I solve this problem by removeing all the PRISM clients At this point I am willing to invest in replacing our old CB3/CPE-200 stuff anyways as it only makes up 10% of my network. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. Let me guess...you are using the XR2 or XR5? This is a known issue that is especially bad with Tranzeo client radios and XR2 at the AP. As someone else mentioned, there is a lot of finger pointing going on relating to this issue. From what I can tell, this issue does not have a negative impact on Mikrotik CPE (or most other CPEs for that matter). -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
Marlon has been screaming about this for a while. Tranzeo points at Mtik, Mtik points at Tranzeo. *sigh* ryan Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. Now since it happens so fast most people just web browsing don't know it but the people that are connected to online gaming and people using vonage are about ready to shoot me. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
Yes, this is a known problem with MT AP's. They claim they are "working on it". Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. Now since it happens so fast most people just web browsing don't know it but the people that are connected to online gaming and people using vonage are about ready to shoot me. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
How long has this problem been ongoing? -- Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com - Original Message From: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Date: 08/25/08 13:13 Yes, this is a known problem with MT AP's. They claim they are working on it. Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. Now since it happens so fast most people just web browsing don't know it but the people that are connected to online gaming and people using vonage are about ready to shoot me. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
I think there are messages on their forum almost a year old. :( Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: How long has this problem been ongoing? -- Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com - Original Message From: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Date: 08/25/08 13:13 Yes, this is a known problem with MT AP's. They claim they are "working on it". Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. Now since it happens so fast most people just web browsing don't know it but the people that are connected to online gaming and people using vonage are about ready to shoot me. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
Don't use Tranzo CPEs :) Just drop in great MT CPEs. lol.. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Steve Barnes wrote: I just noticed the MT AP I have with Tranzeo's on it and MT CPE's Most of the MT CPE's have been up for weeks and ALL the Tranzeo's have been up the exact amount of time to the second. Meaning they all rebooted at the same time. That's frustrating. So you're not alone lucky for me I only have a few Clients on that one tower. However I was thinking about deploying more MT AP's. Now What. Having StarOS v3 issues and now seeing MT having issues with my CPE. Steve Barnes Executive Manager PCS-WIN RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service (765)584-2288 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 1:51 PM To: Kurt Fankhauser; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. I think there are messages on their forum almost a year old. :( Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: How long has this problem been ongoing? -- Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com - Original Message From: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Date: 08/25/08 13:13 Yes, this is a known problem with MT AP's. They claim they are working on it. Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. Now since it happens so fast most people just web browsing don't know it but the people that are connected to online gaming and people using vonage are about ready to shoot me. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
Same problem with MT CPE's. I have hundreds of them deployed and they do the exact same thing. Travis Dennis Burgess wrote: Don't use Tranzo CPEs :) Just drop in great MT CPEs. lol.. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Steve Barnes wrote: I just noticed the MT AP I have with Tranzeo's on it and MT CPE's Most of the MT CPE's have been up for weeks and ALL the Tranzeo's have been up the exact amount of time to the second. Meaning they all rebooted at the same time. That's frustrating. So you're not alone lucky for me I only have a few Clients on that one tower. However I was thinking about deploying more MT AP's. Now What. Having StarOS v3 issues and now seeing MT having issues with my CPE. Steve Barnes Executive Manager PCS-WIN RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service (765)584-2288 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 1:51 PM To: Kurt Fankhauser; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. I think there are messages on their forum almost a year old. :( Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: How long has this problem been ongoing? -- Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com - Original Message From: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Date: 08/25/08 13:13 Yes, this is a known problem with MT AP's. They claim they are "working on it". Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. Now since it happens so fast most people just web browsing don't know it but the people that are connected to online gaming and people using vonage are about ready to shoot me. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
I can confirm this. Anything Atheros based will drop off. The older CB3 stuff stays connected. -- Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com - Original Message From: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Date: 08/25/08 16:01 Same problem with MT CPE's. I have hundreds of them deployed and they do the exact same thing. Travis Dennis Burgess wrote: Don't use Tranzo CPEs :) Just drop in great MT CPEs. lol.. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik amp; WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net lt;http://www.linktechs.net/gt; */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training lt;http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.aspgt;/* Steve Barnes wrote: I just noticed the MT AP I have with Tranzeo's on it and MT CPE's Most of the MT CPE's have been up for weeks and ALL the Tranzeo's have been up the exact amount of time to the second. Meaning they all rebooted at the same time. That's frustrating. So you're not alone lucky for me I only have a few Clients on that one tower. However I was thinking about deploying more MT AP's. Now What. Having StarOS v3 issues and now seeing MT having issues with my CPE. Steve Barnes Executive Manager PCS-WIN RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service (765)584-2288 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 1:51 PM To: Kurt Fankhauser; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. I think there are messages on their forum almost a year old. :( Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: How long has this problem been ongoing? -- Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com - Original Message From: WISPA General List lt;mailto:wireless@wispa.orggt; lt;wireless@wispa.orggt; To: WISPA General List lt;mailto:wireless@wispa.orggt; lt;wireless@wispa.orggt; Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Date: 08/25/08 13:13 Yes, this is a known problem with MT AP's. They claim they are working on it. Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. Now since it happens so fast most people just web browsing don't know it but the people that are connected to online gaming and people using vonage are about ready to shoot me. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
I don't have hundreds, but I have mostly R52 or similar cards deployed in my MT CPE. On one tower using SR5s, I have over half of the CPE with wireless uptimes of almost 9 days (last time I rebooted the AP). -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Same problem with MT CPE's. I have hundreds of them deployed and they do the exact same thing. Travis Dennis Burgess wrote: Don't use Tranzo CPEs :) Just drop in great MT CPEs. lol.. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Steve Barnes wrote: I just noticed the MT AP I have with Tranzeo's on it and MT CPE's Most of the MT CPE's have been up for weeks and ALL the Tranzeo's have been up the exact amount of time to the second. Meaning they all rebooted at the same time. That's frustrating. So you're not alone lucky for me I only have a few Clients on that one tower. However I was thinking about deploying more MT AP's. Now What. Having StarOS v3 issues and now seeing MT having issues with my CPE. Steve Barnes Executive Manager PCS-WIN RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service (765)584-2288 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 1:51 PM To: Kurt Fankhauser; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. I think there are messages on their forum almost a year old. :( Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: How long has this problem been ongoing? -- Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com - Original Message From: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Date: 08/25/08 13:13 Yes, this is a known problem with MT AP's. They claim they are working on it. Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. Now since it happens so fast most people just web browsing don't know it but the people that are connected to online gaming and people using vonage are about ready to shoot me. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
On my 5GHz sector, I am using MT v3.11 (current firmware too) and I have over 7 days on CPE connections. We performed maintenance last Sunday @4:00 AM. They are all Mikrotik CPE. The other sector we use is 2.4GHz and has a mix of Prizm and Atheros (Tranzeo CPE, CPQ, and SL2). It is running 2.9.49 with current firmware. Disconnects range from hrs ago to 35 days ago. The 35 days CPE is a Mikrotik repeater, and the CPQs are around the 17 day mark. Probably a power outage or blip. I remember seeing disconnects on our 5GHz sector, but since 3.7 we have been extremely stable and seems to work very well. I don't have any answers, but hopefully we can find a pattern that works and doesn't. Thanks, Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 4:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. I don't have hundreds, but I have mostly R52 or similar cards deployed in my MT CPE. On one tower using SR5s, I have over half of the CPE with wireless uptimes of almost 9 days (last time I rebooted the AP). -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Same problem with MT CPE's. I have hundreds of them deployed and they do the exact same thing. Travis Dennis Burgess wrote: Don't use Tranzo CPEs :) Just drop in great MT CPEs. lol.. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Steve Barnes wrote: I just noticed the MT AP I have with Tranzeo's on it and MT CPE's Most of the MT CPE's have been up for weeks and ALL the Tranzeo's have been up the exact amount of time to the second. Meaning they all rebooted at the same time. That's frustrating. So you're not alone lucky for me I only have a few Clients on that one tower. However I was thinking about deploying more MT AP's. Now What. Having StarOS v3 issues and now seeing MT having issues with my CPE. Steve Barnes Executive Manager PCS-WIN RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service (765)584-2288 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 1:51 PM To: Kurt Fankhauser; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. I think there are messages on their forum almost a year old. :( Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: How long has this problem been ongoing? -- Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com - Original Message From: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Date: 08/25/08 13:13 Yes, this is a known problem with MT AP's. They claim they are working on it. Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. Now since it happens so fast most people just web browsing don't know it but the people that are connected to online gaming and people using vonage are about ready to shoot me. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients.
What radio are you using on your 2.4ghz AP? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Rogers Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. On my 5GHz sector, I am using MT v3.11 (current firmware too) and I have over 7 days on CPE connections. We performed maintenance last Sunday @4:00 AM. They are all Mikrotik CPE. The other sector we use is 2.4GHz and has a mix of Prizm and Atheros (Tranzeo CPE, CPQ, and SL2). It is running 2.9.49 with current firmware. Disconnects range from hrs ago to 35 days ago. The 35 days CPE is a Mikrotik repeater, and the CPQs are around the 17 day mark. Probably a power outage or blip. I remember seeing disconnects on our 5GHz sector, but since 3.7 we have been extremely stable and seems to work very well. I don't have any answers, but hopefully we can find a pattern that works and doesn't. Thanks, Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 4:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. I don't have hundreds, but I have mostly R52 or similar cards deployed in my MT CPE. On one tower using SR5s, I have over half of the CPE with wireless uptimes of almost 9 days (last time I rebooted the AP). -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Same problem with MT CPE's. I have hundreds of them deployed and they do the exact same thing. Travis Dennis Burgess wrote: Don't use Tranzo CPEs :) Just drop in great MT CPEs. lol.. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Steve Barnes wrote: I just noticed the MT AP I have with Tranzeo's on it and MT CPE's Most of the MT CPE's have been up for weeks and ALL the Tranzeo's have been up the exact amount of time to the second. Meaning they all rebooted at the same time. That's frustrating. So you're not alone lucky for me I only have a few Clients on that one tower. However I was thinking about deploying more MT AP's. Now What. Having StarOS v3 issues and now seeing MT having issues with my CPE. Steve Barnes Executive Manager PCS-WIN RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service (765)584-2288 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 1:51 PM To: Kurt Fankhauser; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. I think there are messages on their forum almost a year old. :( Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: How long has this problem been ongoing? -- Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com - Original Message From: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT interface randomly dumping clients. Date: 08/25/08 13:13 Yes, this is a known problem with MT AP's. They claim they are working on it. Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Has anyone else seen this problem I am seeing. On my Mikrotik sites with Atheros AP's the interface will decide to completely dump all of the atheros clients and then they reconnect again within 2 seconds. You can tell this happens because the uptimes are so short. But the prism clients they never get dumped and their uptimes are accurate since they were last power cycled. Take a look at this screen shot you can see the problem clearly. This is happening on ALL of my towers that have Mikrotik AP's. Now since it happens so fast most people just web browsing don't know it but the people that are connected to online gaming and people using vonage are about ready to shoot me. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
