Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-26 Thread Greg Ihnen
I've got a short backhaul (.1 mile) PtMP and it definitely works better with AirMax on. I forget if I'm using the no-ack feature. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Better not be. It makes the link perform like crap. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a short backhaul (.1 mile) PtMP and it definitely works better

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-26 Thread Greg Ihnen
You are correct, I have it off. I just checked. Greg On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Better not be. It makes the link perform like crap. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:35

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-26 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I hate to counter.. All of my links are with Airmax on.. including short ones, and they perform better with Airmax than without. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-26 Thread Josh Luthman
I am referring to the no-ack feature of AirMax. I, too, have Airmax on all my links. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.netwrote: I hate to counter.. All of my links

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-26 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Tried again and this time airmax off seems to have done the trick.  Is there any suggested settings in Advanced tab for a 2km link? Turning auto-ACK off and setting it to 3km is probably a good thing.

[WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Patrick D. Nix, Jr
We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Greg Ihnen
Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Patrick D. Nix, Jr
by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency Isn't -53

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Patrick D. Nix, Jr
It is routed, using miktrotik routers. Do I use WDS with airmax? I don't think it is a loop because the other bridges are basically doing the same thing but not seeing the same problem. They are Trango link 45's Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Always do WDS for backhauls. On Jul 25, 2011 1:31 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: It is routed, using miktrotik routers. Do I use WDS with airmax? I don't think it is a loop because the other bridges are basically doing the same thing but not seeing the same problem.

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Patrick D. Nix, Jr
: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:35 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: fai...@snappydsl.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency Always do WDS for backhauls. On Jul 25, 2011 1:31 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: It is routed, using miktrotik routers. Do I use WDS

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Jerry Richardson
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency The reason I ask is because we are using WDS on some M2 PtMP installations to relay connections to neighbors that are near other customers. A tech from UBNT told us that WDS is not designed to work with Airmax and it may be causing some

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Josh Luthman
*To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency ** ** The reason I ask is because we are using WDS on some M2 PtMP installations to relay connections to neighbors that are near other customers. A tech from UBNT told us that WDS is not designed to work with Airmax

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Yes, in the UBIQUITY World, if you want a transparent bridge... use WDS (so ... wds always !). and YES, turn on AIRMAX... (Airmax is proprietary to Ubiquity, so two UBNT radios are much happier with Airmax on, plus with Airmax is not 'compatible' with standards 802.11a/b/g/n so other

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Patrick D. Nix, Jr
Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Yes, in the UBIQUITY World, if you want a transparent bridge... use

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
How are you testing ? via Radios or via the Mikrotik's behind the radios ? What is the Recieve test by itself showing and what is the Transmit test by it'self showing. also double check to make sure that the MT's and the Radios have ethernet handshake correct. You may have to ssh into the

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Rick Harnish
Faisal, call me at 2603074000 this ebening Rick Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: How are you testing ? via Radios or via the Mikrotik's behind the radios ? What is the Recieve test by itself showing and what is the Transmit test by it'self showing. also double check to make sure

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Patrick D. Nix, Jr
This is testing with pc on either end of the radio, plugged in 100fdx ethernet with iperf. Didn't check ota built-in speedtest. No other traffic on radio. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: How are you testing ? via Radios or via the

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Did you do multiple/single UDP/TCP streams? Usually you want to do two or three to get close to full capacity. On a 10 Mhz channel I am getting 40 mbps with little noise on 3 foot dishes at 15 miles. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency.  At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Airmax should be used on P2P only for high-distance (~50km or more) links.

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Patrick D. Nix, Jr
is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Patrick D

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: I tried airmax off but the link is almost unusable. Is there any advanced settings I need to change? The other scenario where Airmax makes better goodput is interference, either from your tower or from

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Patrick D. Nix, Jr
the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 9:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency On Mon, Jul

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Mike Hammett
Low 50s is about where you want to be for a link. Now the 40s is a bit much. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/25/2011 11:40 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency

2011-07-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Mine at max modulation is 51 if that helps. On Jul 25, 2011 11:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Low 50s is about where you want to be for a link. Now the 40s is a bit much. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/25/2011 11:40 AM,