Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact
Put up an AP using StarOS and "noisebuster" mode nearby on an overlapping channel. Watch their 5.8 backhaul magically disappear and be replaced by something else within a fairly short period of time. Problem solved. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 11/9/2010 10:56 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: >> Sounds like Tsunami/Linx equivellent, running DSSS using most of the band to >> deliver a few T1s. >> The carriers use unlicenced for the same reason we do. They sub it out to a >> contractor, and then the contractor comes up with a solution that takes the >> least planning. >> Dont take it personally, the carriers usually dont use the Spectrum hogg >> gear to hurt you, instead they use it for selfish reasons. They figure use >> the protocol that require the least SNR so they minimize the risk of others >> can step on them. I hate that. > Whoa back up. Sorry, I am not taking it personally, or at least not to > very much. Poor joke mixed in with a bit of wishful thinking. > >> One option is that you can deploy licensed wireless, and then go to the >> cellular company and try to sell them a more reliable circuit, maybe even at >> a discount. > As soon as I can buy some Ubnt 3.65 gear I will be. An no, no one on > those towers will be buying from me (because I am to small a fish and > really do have little interest in them, since I can not meet various > performance goals like X hour response time 24/7/365. I am one > persona here) > >> ONe thing that you might be able to use to your advantage is. Often the >> big carrier deploys unlicensed with the mentality that because its >> unlicensed that they dont have to tell anyone at the tower, or license that >> specific freq with teh tower owner. Meaning, they may not have the right to >> use that spectrum at the tower nailed down. So you might be able to license >> the use of that spectrum at the site, if you try. They likely are only >> protected by a first in non-interference clause, if they listed the >> ubnlicensed gear in their tower agreement. >> You might be able to re-use the spectrum if you give your self about a 100ft >> of seperation. > No way will I get that. Tower owner gets around 60K/mo from 4 towers > and the subleases. My talks to get up there are pretty much stalled at > "oh you can't start off with 10K/mo? Don't call me again" > >> I guess my point is Dont assume that The cellular carrier who owns the >> gear is the one that you have to negotiate with. Thats not necessarilly a >> given. > True, but I have to contact them to find out who is the right person. > >> Remember, interference can be bi-directional. And you ahve the ability to >> interfere with them if you also use inefficient technology. That always >> creates some leverage for everyone to play nice togeather. > True in most cases. I think in this one, they are running illegal, or > I have not truely pinned the right source (snow has made doing a > better survey dangerous). > > The scan that shows the signal is aimed to a tower that is 7060 feet > east of where the interference is coming from, and 1300ft low in > elevation. I have not been able to get on the metal roof (10/12 and > snow) and re-aim to see if i can tune it out. No mater where in town I > drove, if I aimed at the towers on the hill, I had this signal very > strong and clear. I have a airmax link that its obliterating. I am > going to edge as close to it as I can and keep my performance > acceptable. This might make the people move, it might not. I am also > going to put in a par of 2.4ghz airmax units and see how that plays > out. I only need 20mbit to the site for now. > >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jeromie Reeves" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:34 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact >> >> >>> I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO >>> have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band >>> it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even >>> airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some >>> UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe >>> if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away). >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: >>>> Good luck, we had a similar issue,
Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > Sounds like Tsunami/Linx equivellent, running DSSS using most of the band to > deliver a few T1s. > The carriers use unlicenced for the same reason we do. They sub it out to a > contractor, and then the contractor comes up with a solution that takes the > least planning. > Dont take it personally, the carriers usually dont use the Spectrum hogg > gear to hurt you, instead they use it for selfish reasons. They figure use > the protocol that require the least SNR so they minimize the risk of others > can step on them. I hate that. Whoa back up. Sorry, I am not taking it personally, or at least not to very much. Poor joke mixed in with a bit of wishful thinking. > > One option is that you can deploy licensed wireless, and then go to the > cellular company and try to sell them a more reliable circuit, maybe even at > a discount. As soon as I can buy some Ubnt 3.65 gear I will be. An no, no one on those towers will be buying from me (because I am to small a fish and really do have little interest in them, since I can not meet various performance goals like X hour response time 24/7/365. I am one persona here) > ONe thing that you might be able to use to your advantage is. Often the > big carrier deploys unlicensed with the mentality that because its > unlicensed that they dont have to tell anyone at the tower, or license that > specific freq with teh tower owner. Meaning, they may not have the right to > use that spectrum at the tower nailed down. So you might be able to license > the use of that spectrum at the site, if you try. They likely are only > protected by a first in non-interference clause, if they listed the > ubnlicensed gear in their tower agreement. > You might be able to re-use the spectrum if you give your self about a 100ft > of seperation. No way will I get that. Tower owner gets around 60K/mo from 4 towers and the subleases. My talks to get up there are pretty much stalled at "oh you can't start off with 10K/mo? Don't call me again" > > I guess my point is Dont assume that The cellular carrier who owns the > gear is the one that you have to negotiate with. Thats not necessarilly a > given. True, but I have to contact them to find out who is the right person. > > Remember, interference can be bi-directional. And you ahve the ability to > interfere with them if you also use inefficient technology. That always > creates some leverage for everyone to play nice togeather. True in most cases. I think in this one, they are running illegal, or I have not truely pinned the right source (snow has made doing a better survey dangerous). The scan that shows the signal is aimed to a tower that is 7060 feet east of where the interference is coming from, and 1300ft low in elevation. I have not been able to get on the metal roof (10/12 and snow) and re-aim to see if i can tune it out. No mater where in town I drove, if I aimed at the towers on the hill, I had this signal very strong and clear. I have a airmax link that its obliterating. I am going to edge as close to it as I can and keep my performance acceptable. This might make the people move, it might not. I am also going to put in a par of 2.4ghz airmax units and see how that plays out. I only need 20mbit to the site for now. > > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeromie Reeves" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:34 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact > > >>I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO >> have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band >> it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even >> airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some >> UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe >> if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away). >> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: >>> Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why >>> they don't go licensed. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Cameron Kilton >>> >>> On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: >>>> Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have >>>> some towers here that are now sitting all over the<5755 making it >>>> totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to >>>> try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to? >>>> >>>> Jeromie >>>&g
Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact
Back when I worked for ATT Wireless, we had a contractor do that exact thing. We had some complaints and made the contractor switch to licensed. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > Sounds like Tsunami/Linx equivellent, running DSSS using most of the band > to > deliver a few T1s. > The carriers use unlicenced for the same reason we do. They sub it out to > a > contractor, and then the contractor comes up with a solution that takes the > least planning. > Dont take it personally, the carriers usually dont use the Spectrum hogg > gear to hurt you, instead they use it for selfish reasons. They figure use > the protocol that require the least SNR so they minimize the risk of others > can step on them. I hate that. > > One option is that you can deploy licensed wireless, and then go to the > cellular company and try to sell them a more reliable circuit, maybe even > at > a discount. > ONe thing that you might be able to use to your advantage is. Often the > big carrier deploys unlicensed with the mentality that because its > unlicensed that they dont have to tell anyone at the tower, or license that > specific freq with teh tower owner. Meaning, they may not have the right to > use that spectrum at the tower nailed down. So you might be able to > license > the use of that spectrum at the site, if you try. They likely are only > protected by a first in non-interference clause, if they listed the > ubnlicensed gear in their tower agreement. > You might be able to re-use the spectrum if you give your self about a > 100ft > of seperation. > > I guess my point is Dont assume that The cellular carrier who owns the > gear is the one that you have to negotiate with. Thats not necessarilly a > given. > > Remember, interference can be bi-directional. And you ahve the ability to > interfere with them if you also use inefficient technology. That always > creates some leverage for everyone to play nice togeather. > > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jeromie Reeves" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:34 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact > > > >I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO > > have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band > > it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even > > airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some > > UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe > > if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away). > > > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton > wrote: > >> Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why > >> they don't go licensed. > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Cameron Kilton > >> > >> On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: > >>> Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have > >>> some towers here that are now sitting all over the<5755 making it > >>> totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to > >>> try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to? > >>> > >>> Jeromie > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>> > > >>> > >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>> > >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>> > >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > > > > > > --
Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact
Sounds like Tsunami/Linx equivellent, running DSSS using most of the band to deliver a few T1s. The carriers use unlicenced for the same reason we do. They sub it out to a contractor, and then the contractor comes up with a solution that takes the least planning. Dont take it personally, the carriers usually dont use the Spectrum hogg gear to hurt you, instead they use it for selfish reasons. They figure use the protocol that require the least SNR so they minimize the risk of others can step on them. I hate that. One option is that you can deploy licensed wireless, and then go to the cellular company and try to sell them a more reliable circuit, maybe even at a discount. ONe thing that you might be able to use to your advantage is. Often the big carrier deploys unlicensed with the mentality that because its unlicensed that they dont have to tell anyone at the tower, or license that specific freq with teh tower owner. Meaning, they may not have the right to use that spectrum at the tower nailed down. So you might be able to license the use of that spectrum at the site, if you try. They likely are only protected by a first in non-interference clause, if they listed the ubnlicensed gear in their tower agreement. You might be able to re-use the spectrum if you give your self about a 100ft of seperation. I guess my point is Dont assume that The cellular carrier who owns the gear is the one that you have to negotiate with. Thats not necessarilly a given. Remember, interference can be bi-directional. And you ahve the ability to interfere with them if you also use inefficient technology. That always creates some leverage for everyone to play nice togeather. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Jeromie Reeves" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact >I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO > have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band > it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even > airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some > UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe > if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away). > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: >> Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why >> they don't go licensed. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Cameron Kilton >> >> On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: >>> Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have >>> some towers here that are now sitting all over the<5755 making it >>> totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to >>> try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to? >>> >>> Jeromie >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3247 - Release Date: 11/09/10 > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact
If I knew of a manned one, I would look into it. Know if one in Oregon, Washington, or Idaho? On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:08 PM, RickG wrote: > I drove at least that far to get to their nearest CO and "fix" the > situation. > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Jeromie Reeves > wrote: >> >> VZW does not have CO's here. Closest thing they have is a unmanned hut >> 60 miles away. >> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:43 PM, RickG wrote: >> > I had a similar issue a years ago. I went down to their CO and kindly >> > discussed with their engineers and made progress that way. >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Jeromie Reeves >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO >> >> have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band >> >> it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even >> >> airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some >> >> UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe >> >> if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away). >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton >> >> wrote: >> >> > Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why >> >> > they don't go licensed. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Thanks, >> >> > Cameron Kilton >> >> > >> >> > On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: >> >> >> Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have >> >> >> some towers here that are now sitting all over the<5755 making it >> >> >> totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to >> >> >> try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to? >> >> >> >> >> >> Jeromie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> >> >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> >> >> >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> >> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> >> >> >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> > >> >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> > >> >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > -RickG >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > >> > >> > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > -RickG > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives
Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact
I drove at least that far to get to their nearest CO and "fix" the situation. On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: > VZW does not have CO's here. Closest thing they have is a unmanned hut > 60 miles away. > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:43 PM, RickG wrote: > > I had a similar issue a years ago. I went down to their CO and kindly > > discussed with their engineers and made progress that way. > > > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Jeromie Reeves > > wrote: > >> > >> I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO > >> have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band > >> it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even > >> airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some > >> UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe > >> if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away). > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton > wrote: > >> > Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why > >> > they don't go licensed. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Cameron Kilton > >> > > >> > On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: > >> >> Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have > >> >> some towers here that are now sitting all over the<5755 making it > >> >> totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to > >> >> try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to? > >> >> > >> >> Jeromie > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> >> > >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> >> > >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > >> > > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > -- > > -RickG > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact
VZW does not have CO's here. Closest thing they have is a unmanned hut 60 miles away. On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:43 PM, RickG wrote: > I had a similar issue a years ago. I went down to their CO and kindly > discussed with their engineers and made progress that way. > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Jeromie Reeves > wrote: >> >> I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO >> have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band >> it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even >> airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some >> UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe >> if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away). >> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: >> > Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why >> > they don't go licensed. >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Cameron Kilton >> > >> > On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: >> >> Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have >> >> some towers here that are now sitting all over the<5755 making it >> >> totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to >> >> try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to? >> >> >> >> Jeromie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > >> > >> > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > -RickG > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact
I had a similar issue a years ago. I went down to their CO and kindly discussed with their engineers and made progress that way. On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: > I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO > have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band > it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even > airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some > UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe > if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away). > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: > > Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why > > they don't go licensed. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > Cameron Kilton > > > > On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: > >> Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have > >> some towers here that are now sitting all over the<5755 making it > >> totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to > >> try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to? > >> > >> Jeromie > >> > >> > >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact
I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away). On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: > Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why > they don't go licensed. > > > > Thanks, > Cameron Kilton > > On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: >> Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have >> some towers here that are now sitting all over the<5755 making it >> totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to >> try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to? >> >> Jeromie >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact
Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why they don't go licensed. Thanks, Cameron Kilton On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: > Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have > some towers here that are now sitting all over the<5755 making it > totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to > try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to? > > Jeromie > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact
Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have some towers here that are now sitting all over the <5755 making it totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to? Jeromie WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
