Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Only the person sending the bill to the end user can do all of that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Roger Howard" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:51:47 AM S

Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread lar
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 12:44:57 -0500 Roger Howard wrote: > So if I'm de minimis, do I have to register anything with the FCC? or just > ignore it and let Vitelity pay until I get big? Get a telcom lawyer. This is a minefield and can blow up in your face if you do it wrong. There are several group

Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Fred Goldstein
On 3/26/2014 1:44 PM, Roger Howard wrote: So if I'm de minimis, do I have to register anything with the FCC? or just ignore it and let Vitelity pay until I get big? If you're de minimis -- and just "reselling" might be an out, if the underlying carrier owns the customers, pays USF, and essen

Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Roger Howard
So if I'm de minimis, do I have to register anything with the FCC? or just ignore it and let Vitelity pay until I get big? On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: > On 3/26/2014 12:53 PM, Randy Cosby wrote: > > Doesn't sound right to me, unless they are going to do all the billi

Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Jon Auer
This is a matter where you really need a telecom lawyer with knowledge of your state. What we found is you really need to avoid hitting that interconnected VoIP requirement. As for how you do that, check with your lawyers. Once we crossed that it's been a chain of paperwork that seems to never end

Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Roger I have experience with VoIP but no experience with US VoIP rules. Anyway, the rule is always the same: who owns the customers? If you are a RESELLER (how powerful are words!) then you resell the service, i.e. it sounds like you are not selling the service but re-selling, i.e. you are jus

Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Fred Goldstein
On 3/26/2014 12:53 PM, Randy Cosby wrote: Doesn't sound right to me, unless they are going to do all the billing and tax filing in your behalf. If they charge you USF on your wholesale rate, who pays on the difference between your wholesale rate and the customer's marked up rate? USF rules a

Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Chris Fabien
This can vary by locality too. We offer voip and collect/pay USF, sales tax, state 911, and a different county 911 fee for each county we serve. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Randy Cosby wrote: > Doesn't sound right to me, unless they are going to do all the billing > and tax filing in you

Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Randy Cosby
Doesn't sound right to me, unless they are going to do all the billing and tax filing in your behalf. If they charge you USF on your wholesale rate, who pays on the difference between your wholesale rate and the customer's marked up rate? On 3/26/2014 10:51 AM, Roger Howard wrote: So I've bee

[WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Roger Howard
So I've been using Vitelity for a while in the office here, with freeswitch, and it works great. I was considering reselling the vitelity service to my customers, the only thing that has held me back is the legal requirements. I thought I had to collect USF fees, register with the FCC, pay it to t