Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)
This is why companies like American Tower, Spectrasite, and others have always required a structural engineering study. The engineers sign off on it, and you are supposed to install based up that plan. Sucks, but is a way of CYA. Justin -- Justin Wilson http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Jack Unger Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 10:03:12 -0700 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) Tom, You raise an interesting and valid question about whether a tower (or tank) "Best Practices" should be followed by all cellular and WISP operators. Personally, I have to ask if perhaps this might just have been an "Act of Zod"? <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Zod> jack Tom DeReggi wrote: > > Interesting So then, I guess this brings up another issue. Could the > Cellular company also be held liable? Could they have mounted their cabling > a different way that would have better disappated heat or isolated their > cabling from the tower, knowing that one day it might need welding > maintenance? Or onsucg structures should a fire-retardent type cable be > used? > > Lets use another example, if a WISP mounts his cable on a Chimney, and the > home owner lights a fire Is the home owner or WISP responsible if the > cable catches fire? > I'd argue the WISP becaue they should ahve known that one day heat could be > an issue that needed delt with. So taking the same logic, shouldn't the > Cellular company have known the same? > > What are best practices for mounting Cable on Water Towers? How can law > suits be avoided? Are they going to hold a WISP responsible for repainting > the tower (with expensive epoxy paint), if they clamp and strap radios and > cables to water tank legs and rails? > > Or is the secret to use an engineering company to certify the paln, and get > the county to certify the engineer, so the Engineer would be responsible? Or > should the county be responsible for letting the cellular cable up there, > knowing that it could be a risk to welders? > > My point here is I'm not confident that just the welder was responsible. > I would think there would have to be some sort of neglect proven. > It would be interesting to see the outcome. > > It would also be interesting to see if a suit gets opened by the welders, > arguing that teh welders were put in danger due to inadequate ventelation > inside teh water tower, and against the cable company from not adequately > isolating the cables from the tower? > > Who's authority is it to say what best practices are right, to prevent > accidents? > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Eric Rogers" > <mailto:ecrog...@precisionds.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 3:09 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) > > > > >> >> I do know that epoxy paint is very expensive. I got a quote for $26,000 >> to weld some brackets on the top of a tank just so I can mount my stuff. >> There is a lining inside the tank as well as the outside. If they have >> to repaint it, I bet $400k isn't even for the equipment and transmission >> lines. >> >> Eric >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi >> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 3:01 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) >> >> >> >>> >>> Dahl said damage to the cables and paint on the tower is estimated at >>> $400,000. >>> >>> >> >> Now thats funny. Talking about Gold diggin Munis, They must be planning >> on >> using Gold based paint and Gold plated cable to match. >> >> After stating "no structural damage". Now if they were counting lost >> revenue for the Cell carrier's customers during the outage, well, then >> I'd >> understand it. >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Blake Bowers" <mailto:bbow...@mozarks.com> >> To: <mailto:tower-...@yahoogroups.com> >> Cc: "Broadcast Radio Mailing List" >> <mailto:broadc...@radiolists.net> ; >> <ma
Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)
Tom, You raise an interesting and valid question about whether a tower (or tank) "Best Practices" should be followed by all cellular and WISP operators. Personally, I have to ask if perhaps this might just have been an "Act of Zod"? jack Tom DeReggi wrote: Interesting So then, I guess this brings up another issue. Could the Cellular company also be held liable? Could they have mounted their cabling a different way that would have better disappated heat or isolated their cabling from the tower, knowing that one day it might need welding maintenance? Or onsucg structures should a fire-retardent type cable be used? Lets use another example, if a WISP mounts his cable on a Chimney, and the home owner lights a fire Is the home owner or WISP responsible if the cable catches fire? I'd argue the WISP becaue they should ahve known that one day heat could be an issue that needed delt with. So taking the same logic, shouldn't the Cellular company have known the same? What are best practices for mounting Cable on Water Towers? How can law suits be avoided? Are they going to hold a WISP responsible for repainting the tower (with expensive epoxy paint), if they clamp and strap radios and cables to water tank legs and rails? Or is the secret to use an engineering company to certify the paln, and get the county to certify the engineer, so the Engineer would be responsible? Or should the county be responsible for letting the cellular cable up there, knowing that it could be a risk to welders? My point here is I'm not confident that just the welder was responsible. I would think there would have to be some sort of neglect proven. It would be interesting to see the outcome. It would also be interesting to see if a suit gets opened by the welders, arguing that teh welders were put in danger due to inadequate ventelation inside teh water tower, and against the cable company from not adequately isolating the cables from the tower? Who's authority is it to say what best practices are right, to prevent accidents? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Eric Rogers" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) I do know that epoxy paint is very expensive. I got a quote for $26,000 to weld some brackets on the top of a tank just so I can mount my stuff. There is a lining inside the tank as well as the outside. If they have to repaint it, I bet $400k isn't even for the equipment and transmission lines. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 3:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) Dahl said damage to the cables and paint on the tower is estimated at $400,000. Now thats funny. Talking about Gold diggin Munis, They must be planning on using Gold based paint and Gold plated cable to match. After stating "no structural damage". Now if they were counting lost revenue for the Cell carrier's customers during the outage, well, then I'd understand it. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Blake Bowers" To: Cc: "Broadcast Radio Mailing List" ; ; "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 2:22 PM Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) http://www.channel3000.com/news/23558364/detail.html Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)
What actually caught on fire from the welder? If it was unsafe or unfit conditions, the welder should not have proceeded. The cause is the actions of the welder. On 5/16/10, Tom DeReggi wrote: > Interesting So then, I guess this brings up another issue. Could the > Cellular company also be held liable? Could they have mounted their cabling > a different way that would have better disappated heat or isolated their > cabling from the tower, knowing that one day it might need welding > maintenance? Or onsucg structures should a fire-retardent type cable be > used? > > Lets use another example, if a WISP mounts his cable on a Chimney, and the > home owner lights a fire Is the home owner or WISP responsible if the > cable catches fire? > I'd argue the WISP becaue they should ahve known that one day heat could be > an issue that needed delt with. So taking the same logic, shouldn't the > Cellular company have known the same? > > What are best practices for mounting Cable on Water Towers? How can law > suits be avoided? Are they going to hold a WISP responsible for repainting > the tower (with expensive epoxy paint), if they clamp and strap radios and > cables to water tank legs and rails? > > Or is the secret to use an engineering company to certify the paln, and get > the county to certify the engineer, so the Engineer would be responsible? Or > should the county be responsible for letting the cellular cable up there, > knowing that it could be a risk to welders? > > My point here is I'm not confident that just the welder was responsible. > I would think there would have to be some sort of neglect proven. > It would be interesting to see the outcome. > > It would also be interesting to see if a suit gets opened by the welders, > arguing that teh welders were put in danger due to inadequate ventelation > inside teh water tower, and against the cable company from not adequately > isolating the cables from the tower? > > Who's authority is it to say what best practices are right, to prevent > accidents? > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Eric Rogers" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 3:09 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) > > >>I do know that epoxy paint is very expensive. I got a quote for $26,000 >> to weld some brackets on the top of a tank just so I can mount my stuff. >> There is a lining inside the tank as well as the outside. If they have >> to repaint it, I bet $400k isn't even for the equipment and transmission >> lines. >> >> Eric >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi >> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 3:01 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) >> >>> Dahl said damage to the cables and paint on the tower is estimated at >>> $400,000. >> >> Now thats funny. Talking about Gold diggin Munis, They must be planning >> on >> using Gold based paint and Gold plated cable to match. >> >> After stating "no structural damage". Now if they were counting lost >> revenue for the Cell carrier's customers during the outage, well, then >> I'd >> understand it. >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Blake Bowers" >> To: >> Cc: "Broadcast Radio Mailing List" ; >> ; "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 2:22 PM >> Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) >> >> >>> http://www.channel3000.com/news/23558364/detail.html >>> >>> >>> Don't take your organs to heaven, >>> heaven knows we need them down here! >>> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.o
Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)
Interesting So then, I guess this brings up another issue. Could the Cellular company also be held liable? Could they have mounted their cabling a different way that would have better disappated heat or isolated their cabling from the tower, knowing that one day it might need welding maintenance? Or onsucg structures should a fire-retardent type cable be used? Lets use another example, if a WISP mounts his cable on a Chimney, and the home owner lights a fire Is the home owner or WISP responsible if the cable catches fire? I'd argue the WISP becaue they should ahve known that one day heat could be an issue that needed delt with. So taking the same logic, shouldn't the Cellular company have known the same? What are best practices for mounting Cable on Water Towers? How can law suits be avoided? Are they going to hold a WISP responsible for repainting the tower (with expensive epoxy paint), if they clamp and strap radios and cables to water tank legs and rails? Or is the secret to use an engineering company to certify the paln, and get the county to certify the engineer, so the Engineer would be responsible? Or should the county be responsible for letting the cellular cable up there, knowing that it could be a risk to welders? My point here is I'm not confident that just the welder was responsible. I would think there would have to be some sort of neglect proven. It would be interesting to see the outcome. It would also be interesting to see if a suit gets opened by the welders, arguing that teh welders were put in danger due to inadequate ventelation inside teh water tower, and against the cable company from not adequately isolating the cables from the tower? Who's authority is it to say what best practices are right, to prevent accidents? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Eric Rogers" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) >I do know that epoxy paint is very expensive. I got a quote for $26,000 > to weld some brackets on the top of a tank just so I can mount my stuff. > There is a lining inside the tank as well as the outside. If they have > to repaint it, I bet $400k isn't even for the equipment and transmission > lines. > > Eric > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 3:01 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) > >> Dahl said damage to the cables and paint on the tower is estimated at >> $400,000. > > Now thats funny. Talking about Gold diggin Munis, They must be planning > on > using Gold based paint and Gold plated cable to match. > > After stating "no structural damage". Now if they were counting lost > revenue for the Cell carrier's customers during the outage, well, then > I'd > understand it. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Blake Bowers" > To: > Cc: "Broadcast Radio Mailing List" ; > ; "WISPA General List" > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 2:22 PM > Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) > > >> http://www.channel3000.com/news/23558364/detail.html >> >> >> Don't take your organs to heaven, >> heaven knows we need them down here! >> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. >> >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join toda
Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)
I hear ya and respect every bit of that 5 mil. Bob- - Original Message - From: "St. Louis Broadband" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) > Pay for high rises...$5m umbrealla, minimum. > > ~V~ > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Robert West > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 10:51 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) > > 2 Million bucks on this end and I still get nervous. > > > - Original Message - > From: "RickG" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 6:30 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) > > > It underscores the need for WISPs (or any business) to have insurance > coverage! > > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Tom DeReggi > wrote: >>> Dahl said damage to the cables and paint on the tower is estimated at >>> $400,000. >> >> Now thats funny. Talking about Gold diggin Munis, They must be planning >> on >> using Gold based paint and Gold plated cable to match. >> >> After stating "no structural damage". Now if they were counting lost >> revenue for the Cell carrier's customers during the outage, well, then >> I'd >> understand it. >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Blake Bowers" >> To: >> Cc: "Broadcast Radio Mailing List" ; >> ; "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 2:22 PM >> Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) >> >> >>> http://www.channel3000.com/news/23558364/detail.html >>> >>> >>> Don't take your organs to heaven, >>> heaven knows we need them down here! >>> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. >>> >>> >>> >>> > > >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> > > >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)
Pay for high rises...$5m umbrealla, minimum. ~V~ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 10:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) 2 Million bucks on this end and I still get nervous. - Original Message - From: "RickG" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) It underscores the need for WISPs (or any business) to have insurance coverage! On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: >> Dahl said damage to the cables and paint on the tower is estimated at >> $400,000. > > Now thats funny. Talking about Gold diggin Munis, They must be planning on > using Gold based paint and Gold plated cable to match. > > After stating "no structural damage". Now if they were counting lost > revenue for the Cell carrier's customers during the outage, well, then I'd > understand it. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Blake Bowers" > To: > Cc: "Broadcast Radio Mailing List" ; > ; "WISPA General List" > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 2:22 PM > Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) > > >> http://www.channel3000.com/news/23558364/detail.html >> >> >> Don't take your organs to heaven, >> heaven knows we need them down here! >> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)
Maron? ~V~ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 10:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) I love irony. - Original Message - From: "Blake Bowers" To: Cc: "Broadcast Radio Mailing List" ; ; "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 2:22 PM Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) > http://www.channel3000.com/news/23558364/detail.html > > > Don't take your organs to heaven, > heaven knows we need them down here! > Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)
2 Million bucks on this end and I still get nervous. - Original Message - From: "RickG" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) It underscores the need for WISPs (or any business) to have insurance coverage! On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: >> Dahl said damage to the cables and paint on the tower is estimated at >> $400,000. > > Now thats funny. Talking about Gold diggin Munis, They must be planning on > using Gold based paint and Gold plated cable to match. > > After stating "no structural damage". Now if they were counting lost > revenue for the Cell carrier's customers during the outage, well, then I'd > understand it. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Blake Bowers" > To: > Cc: "Broadcast Radio Mailing List" ; > ; "WISPA General List" > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 2:22 PM > Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) > > >> http://www.channel3000.com/news/23558364/detail.html >> >> >> Don't take your organs to heaven, >> heaven knows we need them down here! >> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)
I love irony. - Original Message - From: "Blake Bowers" To: Cc: "Broadcast Radio Mailing List" ; ; "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 2:22 PM Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) > http://www.channel3000.com/news/23558364/detail.html > > > Don't take your organs to heaven, > heaven knows we need them down here! > Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)
It underscores the need for WISPs (or any business) to have insurance coverage! On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: >> Dahl said damage to the cables and paint on the tower is estimated at >> $400,000. > > Now thats funny. Talking about Gold diggin Munis, They must be planning on > using Gold based paint and Gold plated cable to match. > > After stating "no structural damage". Now if they were counting lost > revenue for the Cell carrier's customers during the outage, well, then I'd > understand it. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Blake Bowers" > To: > Cc: "Broadcast Radio Mailing List" ; > ; "WISPA General List" > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 2:22 PM > Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) > > >> http://www.channel3000.com/news/23558364/detail.html >> >> >> Don't take your organs to heaven, >> heaven knows we need them down here! >> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)
I do know that epoxy paint is very expensive. I got a quote for $26,000 to weld some brackets on the top of a tank just so I can mount my stuff. There is a lining inside the tank as well as the outside. If they have to repaint it, I bet $400k isn't even for the equipment and transmission lines. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 3:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) > Dahl said damage to the cables and paint on the tower is estimated at > $400,000. Now thats funny. Talking about Gold diggin Munis, They must be planning on using Gold based paint and Gold plated cable to match. After stating "no structural damage". Now if they were counting lost revenue for the Cell carrier's customers during the outage, well, then I'd understand it. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Blake Bowers" To: Cc: "Broadcast Radio Mailing List" ; ; "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 2:22 PM Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) > http://www.channel3000.com/news/23558364/detail.html > > > Don't take your organs to heaven, > heaven knows we need them down here! > Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)
> Dahl said damage to the cables and paint on the tower is estimated at > $400,000. Now thats funny. Talking about Gold diggin Munis, They must be planning on using Gold based paint and Gold plated cable to match. After stating "no structural damage". Now if they were counting lost revenue for the Cell carrier's customers during the outage, well, then I'd understand it. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Blake Bowers" To: Cc: "Broadcast Radio Mailing List" ; ; "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 2:22 PM Subject: [WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved) > http://www.channel3000.com/news/23558364/detail.html > > > Don't take your organs to heaven, > heaven knows we need them down here! > Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Water Tower on fire! (With Cellular involved)
http://www.channel3000.com/news/23558364/detail.html Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
