Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-20 Thread Tom Sharples
How about a splash page that says "Congrats - you have won lifetime free 
internet - just enter your name & address here!"

- Original Message - 
From: "RickG" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site


> Ya, I figured you thought of that. Now, if you could redirect their web
> session and phish them to enter in their contact info!
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Marlon K. Schafer 
> wrote:
>
>> That's what we're doing.  grin  Great minds and all.
>>
>> It did come online for a bit yesterday.  Not long enough to do any good
>> though.
>>
>> Maybe they'll try a bit harder :-).
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "RickG" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>>
>>
>> > Just a thought but I'd authorize the CPE to work so they use it. Then 
>> > you
>> > can track them down!
>> > -RickG
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Marlon K. Schafer
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Heya Tracy,
>> >>
>> >> Turns out this was a misunderstanding.  The equipment that got stolen
>> was
>> >> the CPE at the office in TOWN, not the solar site out in the sticks.
>> >>
>> >> Not sure how those wires got crossed, but the solar sit is still 
>> >> working
>> >> well.
>> >>
>> >> We did see the cpe come online for a few seconds since we figured this
>> >> out
>> >> though.  It'll be interesting to see if we can figure out how to track
>> >> down
>> >> who stole it :-).
>> >> marlon
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Tracy Tippett" 
>> >> To: 
>> >> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:07 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi Marlon,
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry about your gear - give me a ring
>> >> >
>> >> > Tracy Tippett
>> >> > 866-582-7287
>> >> >
>> >> > --Original Mail--
>> >> > From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
>> >> > To: "WISPA General List" 
>> >> > Sent: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:50:47 -0800
>> >> > Subject: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>> >> >
>> >> > Deep sigh.
>> >> >
>> >> > I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 
>> >> > in
>> >> > hardware, poof.
>> >> >
>> >> > What do you guys do to secure them?
>> >> >
>> >> > I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
>> >> >
>> >> > It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.
>>  Pretty
>> >> > remote location, not at all publicized.
>> >> >
>> >> > Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
>> >> >
>> >> > ug
>> >> > marlon
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-20 Thread RickG
Ya, I figured you thought of that. Now, if you could redirect their web
session and phish them to enter in their contact info!

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Marlon K. Schafer 
wrote:

> That's what we're doing.  grin  Great minds and all.
>
> It did come online for a bit yesterday.  Not long enough to do any good
> though.
>
> Maybe they'll try a bit harder :-).
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "RickG" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>
>
> > Just a thought but I'd authorize the CPE to work so they use it. Then you
> > can track them down!
> > -RickG
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Marlon K. Schafer
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Heya Tracy,
> >>
> >> Turns out this was a misunderstanding.  The equipment that got stolen
> was
> >> the CPE at the office in TOWN, not the solar site out in the sticks.
> >>
> >> Not sure how those wires got crossed, but the solar sit is still working
> >> well.
> >>
> >> We did see the cpe come online for a few seconds since we figured this
> >> out
> >> though.  It'll be interesting to see if we can figure out how to track
> >> down
> >> who stole it :-).
> >> marlon
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Tracy Tippett" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:07 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Hi Marlon,
> >> >
> >> > Sorry about your gear - give me a ring
> >> >
> >> > Tracy Tippett
> >> > 866-582-7287
> >> >
> >> > --Original Mail--
> >> > From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
> >> > To: "WISPA General List" 
> >> > Sent: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:50:47 -0800
> >> > Subject: [WISPA] stolen solar site
> >> >
> >> > Deep sigh.
> >> >
> >> > I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in
> >> > hardware, poof.
> >> >
> >> > What do you guys do to secure them?
> >> >
> >> > I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
> >> >
> >> > It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.
>  Pretty
> >> > remote location, not at all publicized.
> >> >
> >> > Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
> >> >
> >> > ug
> >> > marlon
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-20 Thread Robert West
Reminds me of a thing that happened here a few years ago.  Guy breaks into a
convenient store after hours.  Steals a bunch of stuff, took this big box
thing from a shelf behind the counter that kinda looked like a safe.
Couldn't get the "safe" opened.  Cops found it dumped at the park.  Turns
out it was actually the camera system.  Nice close up pictures of the
perpetrator at his house trying to open the "safe".  Camera system had
internal battery backup...  He admitted thinking it was a safe.  The
excuse, "It wasn't me" just couldn't be defended.  Love it when technology
actually works.

Bob-



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:18 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

That's what we're doing.  grin  Great minds and all.

It did come online for a bit yesterday.  Not long enough to do any good 
though.

Maybe they'll try a bit harder :-).
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "RickG" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site


> Just a thought but I'd authorize the CPE to work so they use it. Then you
> can track them down!
> -RickG
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Marlon K. Schafer 
> wrote:
>
>> Heya Tracy,
>>
>> Turns out this was a misunderstanding.  The equipment that got stolen was
>> the CPE at the office in TOWN, not the solar site out in the sticks.
>>
>> Not sure how those wires got crossed, but the solar sit is still working
>> well.
>>
>> We did see the cpe come online for a few seconds since we figured this 
>> out
>> though.  It'll be interesting to see if we can figure out how to track 
>> down
>> who stole it :-).
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Tracy Tippett" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Hi Marlon,
>> >
>> > Sorry about your gear - give me a ring
>> >
>> > Tracy Tippett
>> > 866-582-7287
>> >
>> > --Original Mail--
>> > From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
>> > To: "WISPA General List" 
>> > Sent: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:50:47 -0800
>> > Subject: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>> >
>> > Deep sigh.
>> >
>> > I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in
>> > hardware, poof.
>> >
>> > What do you guys do to secure them?
>> >
>> > I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
>> >
>> > It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty
>> > remote location, not at all publicized.
>> >
>> > Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
>> >
>> > ug
>> > marlon
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-20 Thread Robert West
If you ever want to see your radio again, leave $14.95 in unmarked change in
the trash can at the corner of elm and main at 12 noon tomorrow.  Don't
ignore this, we're serious.  No cops!



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:18 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

That's what we're doing.  grin  Great minds and all.

It did come online for a bit yesterday.  Not long enough to do any good 
though.

Maybe they'll try a bit harder :-).
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "RickG" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site


> Just a thought but I'd authorize the CPE to work so they use it. Then you
> can track them down!
> -RickG
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Marlon K. Schafer 
> wrote:
>
>> Heya Tracy,
>>
>> Turns out this was a misunderstanding.  The equipment that got stolen was
>> the CPE at the office in TOWN, not the solar site out in the sticks.
>>
>> Not sure how those wires got crossed, but the solar sit is still working
>> well.
>>
>> We did see the cpe come online for a few seconds since we figured this 
>> out
>> though.  It'll be interesting to see if we can figure out how to track 
>> down
>> who stole it :-).
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Tracy Tippett" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Hi Marlon,
>> >
>> > Sorry about your gear - give me a ring
>> >
>> > Tracy Tippett
>> > 866-582-7287
>> >
>> > --Original Mail--
>> > From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
>> > To: "WISPA General List" 
>> > Sent: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:50:47 -0800
>> > Subject: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>> >
>> > Deep sigh.
>> >
>> > I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in
>> > hardware, poof.
>> >
>> > What do you guys do to secure them?
>> >
>> > I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
>> >
>> > It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty
>> > remote location, not at all publicized.
>> >
>> > Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
>> >
>> > ug
>> > marlon
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
That's what we're doing.  grin  Great minds and all.

It did come online for a bit yesterday.  Not long enough to do any good 
though.

Maybe they'll try a bit harder :-).
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "RickG" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site


> Just a thought but I'd authorize the CPE to work so they use it. Then you
> can track them down!
> -RickG
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Marlon K. Schafer 
> wrote:
>
>> Heya Tracy,
>>
>> Turns out this was a misunderstanding.  The equipment that got stolen was
>> the CPE at the office in TOWN, not the solar site out in the sticks.
>>
>> Not sure how those wires got crossed, but the solar sit is still working
>> well.
>>
>> We did see the cpe come online for a few seconds since we figured this 
>> out
>> though.  It'll be interesting to see if we can figure out how to track 
>> down
>> who stole it :-).
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Tracy Tippett" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Hi Marlon,
>> >
>> > Sorry about your gear - give me a ring
>> >
>> > Tracy Tippett
>> > 866-582-7287
>> >
>> > --Original Mail--
>> > From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
>> > To: "WISPA General List" 
>> > Sent: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:50:47 -0800
>> > Subject: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>> >
>> > Deep sigh.
>> >
>> > I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in
>> > hardware, poof.
>> >
>> > What do you guys do to secure them?
>> >
>> > I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
>> >
>> > It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty
>> > remote location, not at all publicized.
>> >
>> > Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
>> >
>> > ug
>> > marlon
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-19 Thread RickG
Just a thought but I'd authorize the CPE to work so they use it. Then you
can track them down!
-RickG

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

> Heya Tracy,
>
> Turns out this was a misunderstanding.  The equipment that got stolen was
> the CPE at the office in TOWN, not the solar site out in the sticks.
>
> Not sure how those wires got crossed, but the solar sit is still working
> well.
>
> We did see the cpe come online for a few seconds since we figured this out
> though.  It'll be interesting to see if we can figure out how to track down
> who stole it :-).
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tracy Tippett" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>
>
> >
> > Hi Marlon,
> >
> > Sorry about your gear - give me a ring
> >
> > Tracy Tippett
> > 866-582-7287
> >
> > --Original Mail------
> > From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
> > To: "WISPA General List" 
> > Sent: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:50:47 -0800
> > Subject: [WISPA] stolen solar site
> >
> > Deep sigh.
> >
> > I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in
> > hardware, poof.
> >
> > What do you guys do to secure them?
> >
> > I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
> >
> > It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty
> > remote location, not at all publicized.
> >
> > Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
> >
> > ug
> > marlon
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-19 Thread Chuck Profito
Something similar happened a month ago to us.  Our local canopy competitor
sent out a new installer to a subs home to pick up their equipment(in a box
in the garage ). He saw our Ubiquity Nano on the roof, cut the wire and
removed it & the mount!   They were very apologetic.  So we picked up the
radio, reinstalled and sent them the bill..

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:44 AM
To: tractipp...@swiftwireless.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

Heya Tracy,

Turns out this was a misunderstanding.  The equipment that got stolen was 
the CPE at the office in TOWN, not the solar site out in the sticks.

Not sure how those wires got crossed, but the solar sit is still working 
well.

We did see the cpe come online for a few seconds since we figured this out 
though.  It'll be interesting to see if we can figure out how to track down 
who stole it :-).
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Tracy Tippett" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site


>
> Hi Marlon,
>
> Sorry about your gear - give me a ring
>
> Tracy Tippett
> 866-582-7287
>
> --Original Mail--
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:50:47 -0800
> Subject: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>
> Deep sigh.
>
> I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in
> hardware, poof.
>
> What do you guys do to secure them?
>
> I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
>
> It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty
> remote location, not at all publicized.
>
> Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
>
> ug
> marlon
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-19 Thread lakeland
Marlon the Pittbull Detective.  Go get dude.

If you pay for a roundtrip ticket I have a friend come out from Brooklyn!  LOL

Goog Luck
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-Original Message-
From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:43:32 
To: ; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

Heya Tracy,

Turns out this was a misunderstanding.  The equipment that got stolen was 
the CPE at the office in TOWN, not the solar site out in the sticks.

Not sure how those wires got crossed, but the solar sit is still working 
well.

We did see the cpe come online for a few seconds since we figured this out 
though.  It'll be interesting to see if we can figure out how to track down 
who stole it :-).
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Tracy Tippett" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site


>
> Hi Marlon,
>
> Sorry about your gear - give me a ring
>
> Tracy Tippett
> 866-582-7287
>
> --Original Mail--
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:50:47 -0800
> Subject: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>
> Deep sigh.
>
> I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in
> hardware, poof.
>
> What do you guys do to secure them?
>
> I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
>
> It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty
> remote location, not at all publicized.
>
> Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
>
> ug
> marlon
>
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Heya Tracy,

Turns out this was a misunderstanding.  The equipment that got stolen was 
the CPE at the office in TOWN, not the solar site out in the sticks.

Not sure how those wires got crossed, but the solar sit is still working 
well.

We did see the cpe come online for a few seconds since we figured this out 
though.  It'll be interesting to see if we can figure out how to track down 
who stole it :-).
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Tracy Tippett" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site


>
> Hi Marlon,
>
> Sorry about your gear - give me a ring
>
> Tracy Tippett
> 866-582-7287
>
> --Original Mail--
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:50:47 -0800
> Subject: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>
> Deep sigh.
>
> I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in
> hardware, poof.
>
> What do you guys do to secure them?
>
> I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
>
> It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty
> remote location, not at all publicized.
>
> Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
>
> ug
> marlon
>
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Scottie Arnett
I am all for the graphical content...but what I suggested may be sufficient. 
You may have to answer a few cop questions, but they know the same things I 
already mentioned. They smoked some bad dope on the way to the solar 
installation?

Scott

-- Original Message --
From: "Blake Bowers" 
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Date:  Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:22:26 -0600

>Problem with a bouncing betty it it could destroy the equipment.  BUT, if it 
>takes out a thief..
>
>
>Don't take your organs to heaven,
>heaven knows we need them down here!
>Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
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>- Original Message - 
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>Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:14 PM
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>
>
>> Marlon,
>>
>> Sorry to hear about the equipment.  A Bouncing Betty or two would be
>> my preferred approach (I hate thieves).  IR / Daylight Cameras with
>> remote recording and alarms are the only 'legal' solution though.  I
>> also use big mean dogs at sites I routinely visit.
>>
>>
>> Marco
>>
>> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/Pommiansa1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/landmines2.htm&usg=__YVN1H2MCI3w5CmgCYSu7mXwl57A=&h=619&w=480&sz=49&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=Fi_GSXmll3U_tM:&tbnh=136&tbnw=105&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbouncing%2Bbetty%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
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>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread MDK
Marlon, I have some deep cycle batteries and a wind generator I could loan 
you for a while, till you get around to re-doing it.



--
From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

> Wouldn't have mattered.  They'd have been and gone long before anyone 
> could
> have gotten up there to check it out.
>
> This only services 6 homes.  They'll call when it's down
>
> I'm gonna have to come up with something different for up there.
> marlon
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Travis Johnson" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>
>
>> That sucks. Don't you monitor your sites with something so you know when
>> it's down?
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>>
>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>> Deep sigh.
>>>
>>> I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in
>>> hardware, poof.
>>>
>>> What do you guys do to secure them?
>>>
>>> I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
>>>
>>> It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty
>>> remote location, not at all publicized.
>>>
>>> Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
>>>
>>> ug
>>> marlon
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Josh Luthman
No equipment or no equipment plus revenge?

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On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Blake Bowers  wrote:

> Problem with a bouncing betty it it could destroy the equipment.  BUT, if
> it
> takes out a thief..
>
>
> Don't take your organs to heaven,
> heaven knows we need them down here!
> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Marco Coelho" 
> To: ; "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>
>
> > Marlon,
> >
> > Sorry to hear about the equipment.  A Bouncing Betty or two would be
> > my preferred approach (I hate thieves).  IR / Daylight Cameras with
> > remote recording and alarms are the only 'legal' solution though.  I
> > also use big mean dogs at sites I routinely visit.
> >
> >
> > Marco
> >
> >
> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/Pommiansa1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/landmines2.htm&usg=__YVN1H2MCI3w5CmgCYSu7mXwl57A=&h=619&w=480&sz=49&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=Fi_GSXmll3U_tM:&tbnh=136&tbnw=105&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbouncing%2Bbetty%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Blake Bowers
Problem with a bouncing betty it it could destroy the equipment.  BUT, if it 
takes out a thief..


Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

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To: ; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site


> Marlon,
>
> Sorry to hear about the equipment.  A Bouncing Betty or two would be
> my preferred approach (I hate thieves).  IR / Daylight Cameras with
> remote recording and alarms are the only 'legal' solution though.  I
> also use big mean dogs at sites I routinely visit.
>
>
> Marco
>
> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/Pommiansa1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/landmines2.htm&usg=__YVN1H2MCI3w5CmgCYSu7mXwl57A=&h=619&w=480&sz=49&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=Fi_GSXmll3U_tM:&tbnh=136&tbnw=105&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbouncing%2Bbetty%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Ryan Spott
We have a site where they sat there and sawed through the 1/2 inch
master lock hasp. After everything was stolen that was not bolted
down, they cut though all of the bolts.

Amazing really.

Battery powered dremel cutting wheels... For the Win? Lose?

ryan

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Steve  wrote:
> There are a few things you can do to keep people from feeling
> comfortable stealing your stuff.
> ip cameras from toshiba will record frames at intervals, plus having
> motion detection with email alert. they will also alert you if a loop is
> closed or opened.
> always a good idea to have voltage monitoring for your batts on remote
> sites. you can use packetflux sitemonitor, or bnd rmsboards. they allow
> snmp monitoring and will sense open or closed circuits as well as having
> analog inputs. This along with a monitoring program like zabbix which
> you can configure with triggers to alert you via email, sms, or im, of
> certain conditions will provide very quick knowledge that something is wrong
> monitoring a NC circuit with wire looped through holes in the solar
> panels will let you know if someone is messing around.
> And it always helps to put up some signs indicating that there are
> cameras monitoring their activities.
> These are a few things I've found quite useful.  I am of the opinion
> that it doesn't matter how much cutting someone has to do with a
> powersaw to get something they want, some people will do it as long as
> nobody is watching.
> Better luck next time!
>
> --
>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> Deep sigh.
>>
>> I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in
>> hardware, poof.
>>
>> What do you guys do to secure them?
>>
>> I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
>>
>> It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty
>> remote location, not at all publicized.
>>
>> Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
>>
>> ug
>> marlon
>>
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Steve
There are a few things you can do to keep people from feeling
comfortable stealing your stuff.
ip cameras from toshiba will record frames at intervals, plus having
motion detection with email alert. they will also alert you if a loop is
closed or opened.
always a good idea to have voltage monitoring for your batts on remote
sites. you can use packetflux sitemonitor, or bnd rmsboards. they allow
snmp monitoring and will sense open or closed circuits as well as having
analog inputs. This along with a monitoring program like zabbix which
you can configure with triggers to alert you via email, sms, or im, of
certain conditions will provide very quick knowledge that something is wrong
monitoring a NC circuit with wire looped through holes in the solar
panels will let you know if someone is messing around.
And it always helps to put up some signs indicating that there are
cameras monitoring their activities.
These are a few things I've found quite useful.  I am of the opinion
that it doesn't matter how much cutting someone has to do with a
powersaw to get something they want, some people will do it as long as
nobody is watching.
Better luck next time!

--

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> Deep sigh.
>
> I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in 
> hardware, poof.
>
> What do you guys do to secure them?
>
> I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
>
> It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty 
> remote location, not at all publicized.
>
> Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
>
> ug
> marlon
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Marco Coelho
or there was this bouncing betty:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.eatmyshorts.net/files/bouncing.betty!-1140886687.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.eatmyshorts.net/pictures/153/Bouncing%2BBetty!.html&usg=__QKnANpnHE2ah7ZkS_TFgqynhxoE=&h=492&w=400&sz=111&hl=en&start=9&um=1&tbnid=BOyYNsFRYjo-sM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=106&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbouncing%2Bbetty%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1



On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Marco Coelho  wrote:
> Marlon,
>
> Sorry to hear about the equipment.  A Bouncing Betty or two would be
> my preferred approach (I hate thieves).  IR / Daylight Cameras with
> remote recording and alarms are the only 'legal' solution though.  I
> also use big mean dogs at sites I routinely visit.
>
>
> Marco
>
> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/Pommiansa1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/landmines2.htm&usg=__YVN1H2MCI3w5CmgCYSu7mXwl57A=&h=619&w=480&sz=49&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=Fi_GSXmll3U_tM:&tbnh=136&tbnw=105&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbouncing%2Bbetty%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
>
>
>
> --
> Marco C. Coelho
> Argon Technologies Inc.
> POB 875
> Greenville, TX 75403-0875
> 903-455-5036
>



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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Marco Coelho
Marlon,

Sorry to hear about the equipment.  A Bouncing Betty or two would be
my preferred approach (I hate thieves).  IR / Daylight Cameras with
remote recording and alarms are the only 'legal' solution though.  I
also use big mean dogs at sites I routinely visit.


Marco

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POB 875
Greenville, TX 75403-0875
903-455-5036



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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Scottie Arnett
Just get you two or three crack rocks laced with arsenic and hang where they 
can see them. 90% of the thieves I have seen are dope heads, and that would 
solve the problem before they even touched your solar panels. Too bad you 
couldn't chance critters get into this, or it just might work.

Scottie 

-- Original Message --
From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:35:16 -0800

>Wouldn't have mattered.  They'd have been and gone long before anyone could 
>have gotten up there to check it out.
>
>This only services 6 homes.  They'll call when it's down
>
>I'm gonna have to come up with something different for up there.
>marlon
>
>- Original Message - 
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>Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:01 AM
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>
>
>> That sucks. Don't you monitor your sites with something so you know when
>> it's down?
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>>
>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>> Deep sigh.
>>>
>>> I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in
>>> hardware, poof.
>>>
>>> What do you guys do to secure them?
>>>
>>> I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
>>>
>>> It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty
>>> remote location, not at all publicized.
>>>
>>> Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
>>>
>>> ug
>>> marlon
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Blake Bowers
Butch,

I don't suppose you have any links to the media on that do you?

Trying to keep up a page on tower site thefts.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Butch Evans" 
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Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site


> On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 09:44 -0800, Rick Kunze wrote:
>> IP based camera, remote recording.  Unless they're prepared, masked and
>> stealthy, you'll have images.  Although I've heard that converting an
>> image into something from which you can recover property can be
>> challenging.  I hear there's an App for that.  
>
> In the WISP I'm partnered with in Texas, we have a very remote location
> that has cameras.  We had someone break into the building and steal 4 of
> the 6 computers, 3 of the 4 cameras and a HUGE amount of hardline in the
> fence outside.  They didn't know, but the video was being stored at
> another site.  We got pictures of the license plate on their truck, full
> facial images of 3 of the 4 people (the 4th was a woman who somehow
> managed to not be in front of the camera at any time).  They tripped the
> alarm when they entered the building, and the county police were waiting
> for them as they left the area.  The video was used by the DA during the
> trial.  We made sure that the details of the case were highly publicized
> in the area.
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[WISPA] Stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread richard sterne
Hi Marlon,
Its a sad post you have made. Can you not get some high steel railings
to go round the site with razor wire on the top? Remote video link and
alarm would help.

Good luck

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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread richard sterne
Hi Marlon,
Its a sad post you have made. Can you not get some high steel railings
to go round the site with razor wire on the top? Remote video link and
alarm would help.

Good luck

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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Tracy Tippett

Hi Marlon,

Sorry about your gear - give me a ring 

Tracy Tippett
866-582-7287

--Original Mail--
From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:50:47 -0800
Subject: [WISPA] stolen solar site

Deep sigh.

I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in 
hardware, poof.

What do you guys do to secure them?

I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!

It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty 
remote location, not at all publicized.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?

ug
marlon




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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 09:44 -0800, Rick Kunze wrote: 
> IP based camera, remote recording.  Unless they're prepared, masked and 
> stealthy, you'll have images.  Although I've heard that converting an 
> image into something from which you can recover property can be 
> challenging.  I hear there's an App for that.  

In the WISP I'm partnered with in Texas, we have a very remote location
that has cameras.  We had someone break into the building and steal 4 of
the 6 computers, 3 of the 4 cameras and a HUGE amount of hardline in the
fence outside.  They didn't know, but the video was being stored at
another site.  We got pictures of the license plate on their truck, full
facial images of 3 of the 4 people (the 4th was a woman who somehow
managed to not be in front of the camera at any time).  They tripped the
alarm when they entered the building, and the county police were waiting
for them as they left the area.  The video was used by the DA during the
trial.  We made sure that the details of the case were highly publicized
in the area.


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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Tom Sharples
Radius Security, one of our vars, has a product that they apply to this 
problem. It's a hi-res camera Mobotix attached to a 3G modem, with alarm 
zones set up so that if someone approaches the solar array, it sends an 
email alert together with a megapixel image of the perp to your choice of 
recipient. Or it can be used with several alarm services companies that are 
set up to work with these cameras, and will call the cops.
For solar apps the nice thing is that the whole package only draws 7 watts. 
Of course an ISP could use its own backhaul so you wouldn't need the 3G 
modem, just the cam, which draws 3 watts by itself.

http://www.radiussecurityinc.com/Solar-Powered-Mobotix-IP-Video-System.html

Tom S.




- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site


> Use some of that nice steel rope from Lowe's.  It is cheaper then chain 
> and
> takes a LOT of effort to cut.  Bolt cutters (I am told) do not work.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> --- Albert Einstein
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:22 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Install eyehooks in each panel and daisey chain a wire through the 
>> panels.
>> Connect the cable to a pair of N/C contacts on an ethernet SMS alarm 
>> panel.
>>  They cut the cable, you grt an alarm.
>>
>> Otherwise find some way to connect them together so its really time
>> consuming or difficult to disassemble
>>
>> My experience has been if they can't take it, they usually damage it. 
>> Lil'
>> SOB's.
>>
>> -B-
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Josh Luthman 
>> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:12:48
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>>
>> All I can say it that it was a story Forrest shared.  Using one of the
>> modules a circuit was made between the door and some contact.  Once the
>> circuit was broken an alarm went off and the company with cops waited for
>> them at the base.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>> --- Albert Einstein
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:08 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>
>> > I also would be interested in the alarm information.
>> > Thanx
>> > NGL
>> >
>> > --
>> > From: "Josh Luthman" 
>> > Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:03 AM
>> > To: "WISPA General List" 
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>> >
>> > > Be sure to file a police report.  It covers your ass at the very 
>> > > least.
>> > >
>> > > Might want to talk to Forrest about the alarm that got some other
>> thieves
>> > > caught.
>> > >
>> > > Josh Luthman
>> > > Office: 937-552-2340
>> > > Direct: 937-552-2343
>> > > 1100 Wayne St
>> > > Suite 1337
>> > > Troy, OH 45373
>> > >
>> > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>> > > --- Albert Einstein
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Travis Johnson  
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> That sucks. Don't you monitor your sites with something so you know
>> when
>> > >> it's down?
>> > >>
>> > >> Travis
>> > >> Microserv
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> > >> > Deep sigh.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone. 
>> > >> > $3,000
>> in
>> > >> > hardware, poof.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > What do you guys do to secure them?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
>> > >> >
>> > >> > It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.
>> >  Pretty
>> > >> > remote location, not at all publicized.
>> >

Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread lakeland
Drag the welder up there. Couple of pieces of 3" x 3" angle and weld the whole 
mess together to the mounting pipe.  Cement the pipe in the ground with 6 bags. 
 They won't be able to carry it.  

You'll need a grinder to service it or replace the panels

Lol

Good luck dude.

-B- 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:35:16 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

Wouldn't have mattered.  They'd have been and gone long before anyone could 
have gotten up there to check it out.

This only services 6 homes.  They'll call when it's down

I'm gonna have to come up with something different for up there.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Travis Johnson" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site


> That sucks. Don't you monitor your sites with something so you know when
> it's down?
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> Deep sigh.
>>
>> I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in
>> hardware, poof.
>>
>> What do you guys do to secure them?
>>
>> I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
>>
>> It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty
>> remote location, not at all publicized.
>>
>> Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
>>
>> ug
>> marlon
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Rick Kunze
I'm sold on surveillance.

IP based camera, remote recording.  Unless they're prepared, masked and 
stealthy, you'll have images.  Although I've heard that converting an 
image into something from which you can recover property can be 
challenging.  I hear there's an App for that.  

I once had a customer call with an outage.  Upon seeing no link I went 
to the site and noticed no CPE either!  A day or two later I got a call 
from a local guy who does a lot of the PC repair/housecall business 
around here.  He said some kids came by with my disassembled radio and 
wanted to know if he knew how they could hack the service.  LMAO!

I got it back, put it back together.  Done deal.

There isn't much to see in a small town but what you hear sure makes up 
for it!

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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Wouldn't have mattered.  They'd have been and gone long before anyone could 
have gotten up there to check it out.

This only services 6 homes.  They'll call when it's down

I'm gonna have to come up with something different for up there.
marlon

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From: "Travis Johnson" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site


> That sucks. Don't you monitor your sites with something so you know when
> it's down?
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> Deep sigh.
>>
>> I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in
>> hardware, poof.
>>
>> What do you guys do to secure them?
>>
>> I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
>>
>> It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty
>> remote location, not at all publicized.
>>
>> Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
>>
>> ug
>> marlon
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Use some of that nice steel rope from Lowe's.  It is cheaper then chain and
takes a LOT of effort to cut.  Bolt cutters (I am told) do not work.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
--- Albert Einstein


On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:22 PM,  wrote:

> Install eyehooks in each panel and daisey chain a wire through the panels.
> Connect the cable to a pair of N/C contacts on an ethernet SMS alarm panel.
>  They cut the cable, you grt an alarm.
>
> Otherwise find some way to connect them together so its really time
> consuming or difficult to disassemble
>
> My experience has been if they can't take it, they usually damage it.  Lil'
> SOB's.
>
> -B-
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Josh Luthman 
> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:12:48
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>
> All I can say it that it was a story Forrest shared.  Using one of the
> modules a circuit was made between the door and some contact.  Once the
> circuit was broken an alarm went off and the company with cops waited for
> them at the base.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> --- Albert Einstein
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:08 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>
> > I also would be interested in the alarm information.
> > Thanx
> > NGL
> >
> > ------
> > From: "Josh Luthman" 
> > Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:03 AM
> > To: "WISPA General List" 
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
> >
> > > Be sure to file a police report.  It covers your ass at the very least.
> > >
> > > Might want to talk to Forrest about the alarm that got some other
> thieves
> > > caught.
> > >
> > > Josh Luthman
> > > Office: 937-552-2340
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> > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> > > --- Albert Einstein
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> > >
> > >> That sucks. Don't you monitor your sites with something so you know
> when
> > >> it's down?
> > >>
> > >> Travis
> > >> Microserv
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> > >> > Deep sigh.
> > >> >
> > >> > I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000
> in
> > >> > hardware, poof.
> > >> >
> > >> > What do you guys do to secure them?
> > >> >
> > >> > I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
> > >> >
> > >> > It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.
> >  Pretty
> > >> > remote location, not at all publicized.
> > >> >
> > >> > Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread lakeland
Install eyehooks in each panel and daisey chain a wire through the panels. 
Connect the cable to a pair of N/C contacts on an ethernet SMS alarm panel.  
They cut the cable, you grt an alarm. 

Otherwise find some way to connect them together so its really time consuming 
or difficult to disassemble

My experience has been if they can't take it, they usually damage it.  Lil' 
SOB's.

-B-
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From: Josh Luthman 
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:12:48 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

All I can say it that it was a story Forrest shared.  Using one of the
modules a circuit was made between the door and some contact.  Once the
circuit was broken an alarm went off and the company with cops waited for
them at the base.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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--- Albert Einstein


On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:08 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

> I also would be interested in the alarm information.
> Thanx
> NGL
>
> --
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:03 AM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>
> > Be sure to file a police report.  It covers your ass at the very least.
> >
> > Might want to talk to Forrest about the alarm that got some other thieves
> > caught.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> > --- Albert Einstein
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> >
> >> That sucks. Don't you monitor your sites with something so you know when
> >> it's down?
> >>
> >> Travis
> >> Microserv
> >>
> >>
> >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> >> > Deep sigh.
> >> >
> >> > I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in
> >> > hardware, poof.
> >> >
> >> > What do you guys do to secure them?
> >> >
> >> > I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
> >> >
> >> > It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.
>  Pretty
> >> > remote location, not at all publicized.
> >> >
> >> > Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
> >> >
> >> > ug
> >> > marlon
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Josh Luthman
All I can say it that it was a story Forrest shared.  Using one of the
modules a circuit was made between the door and some contact.  Once the
circuit was broken an alarm went off and the company with cops waited for
them at the base.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
--- Albert Einstein


On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:08 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

> I also would be interested in the alarm information.
> Thanx
> NGL
>
> --
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:03 AM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site
>
> > Be sure to file a police report.  It covers your ass at the very least.
> >
> > Might want to talk to Forrest about the alarm that got some other thieves
> > caught.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> > --- Albert Einstein
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> >
> >> That sucks. Don't you monitor your sites with something so you know when
> >> it's down?
> >>
> >> Travis
> >> Microserv
> >>
> >>
> >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> >> > Deep sigh.
> >> >
> >> > I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in
> >> > hardware, poof.
> >> >
> >> > What do you guys do to secure them?
> >> >
> >> > I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
> >> >
> >> > It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.
>  Pretty
> >> > remote location, not at all publicized.
> >> >
> >> > Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
> >> >
> >> > ug
> >> > marlon
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread ~NGL~
I also would be interested in the alarm information.
Thanx
NGL

--
From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:03 AM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

> Be sure to file a police report.  It covers your ass at the very least.
>
> Might want to talk to Forrest about the alarm that got some other thieves
> caught.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> --- Albert Einstein
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>
>> That sucks. Don't you monitor your sites with something so you know when
>> it's down?
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>>
>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> > Deep sigh.
>> >
>> > I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in
>> > hardware, poof.
>> >
>> > What do you guys do to secure them?
>> >
>> > I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
>> >
>> > It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty
>> > remote location, not at all publicized.
>> >
>> > Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
>> >
>> > ug
>> > marlon
>> >
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Be sure to file a police report.  It covers your ass at the very least.

Might want to talk to Forrest about the alarm that got some other thieves
caught.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> That sucks. Don't you monitor your sites with something so you know when
> it's down?
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> > Deep sigh.
> >
> > I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in
> > hardware, poof.
> >
> > What do you guys do to secure them?
> >
> > I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
> >
> > It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty
> > remote location, not at all publicized.
> >
> > Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
> >
> > ug
> > marlon
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread jp
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 08:50:47AM -0800, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> Deep sigh.
> 
> I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in 
> hardware, poof.
> 
> What do you guys do to secure them?

Two of mine are on islands. You'd have to have a real nice boat to get 
to them. That rules out most lower tier criminals. The solar repeaters 
are on the property of lobstermen on the islands too. Lobstermen have 
limits of how much they will mess with each other, as extra-legal 
retribution is reality and they have to get along together on the same 
pieces of ocean.

> I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
> 
> It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty 
> remote location, not at all publicized.
> 
> Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
> 
> ug
> marlon
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Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Travis Johnson
That sucks. Don't you monitor your sites with something so you know when 
it's down?

Travis
Microserv


Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> Deep sigh.
>
> I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in 
> hardware, poof.
>
> What do you guys do to secure them?
>
> I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!
>
> It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty 
> remote location, not at all publicized.
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> Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?
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[WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-18 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Deep sigh.

I put up my first solar site 3 weeks ago.  Today it's gone.  $3,000 in 
hardware, poof.

What do you guys do to secure them?

I hope the jerks fell of the cliff's and got hurt!

It's not like the whole world even know the gear was out there.  Pretty 
remote location, not at all publicized.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh?

ug
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