Hi,
We have two main campuses with a regularly scheduled shuttle bus
running between the two. We've been asked to look into providing WiFi
service on this bus. It appears the solution is a WiFi router with a
cellular back-haul (3G?). If anyone is doing this I'd appreciate any
comments as
Has anybody found a good solution for AP enclosures? Our older Residence
Halls do not have drop ceilings so we cannot hide the APs. We have found
that most things visible get destroyed. Our standard APs have internal
antennas so I'd like to find a box that is RF transparent. I found one by
http://www.belden.com/pdfs/Prodbull/NP273.pdf
At the time we bought the BWIE-100. Bought them through Graybar for $66/ea
18 months ago. They are made out of polycarbonate so the signal penetrates
right through them.
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Wow! That looks great!
Thanks
John Kaftan
Infrastructure Manager
Utica College
315.792.3102
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We installed AP enclosures in our first dorm building when we went
wireless. After that we decided to take a chance and see what happened
instead of adding the extra cost. The students see the wireless as a great
service. In 4 years we have not had one vandalized. We have over 800 of
them
We haven't seen any vandalized in our dorms as well. About once every year,
a student will disconnect the Ethernet cable, but that is it. We put the
enclosures in our gym so the AP would be protected from direct hits.
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We too elected to install our residence hall access points without
protective enclosures. So far there have been no issues in the past ~4
years with the approximately 1100 we have deployed. We do normally
place them into student rooms rather than hallways or common areas so
that we know
Yeah I was thinking that I might give them the benefit of the doubt and see
what happens. Then if they destroy one we replace it with a new one + an
enclosure which will come out of their collective deposit. That way I don't
have to find budget after the fact. :0)
John Kaftan
We have approximately 1500 ap's installed in hallways and student dorm
rooms, only 1 has been damaged due to an errant pass during a
hallway football game.
Chris
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Joe Rogers j...@usf.edu wrote:
We too elected to install our residence hall access points without
We're going on about 3,000 installed, and I think one may have been vandalized.
Our students love their wireless and seem to understand what makes it possible.
There is clearly no ROI for enclosures. You can install a lot of extra wireless
connectivity for the price you would pay for the
I have always thought we would install in the hallways. For those of you
who have said they install in student rooms I'd like to understand when and
why you do so. I've assumed that we would want to always have access in
case an AP goes south.
John Kaftan
Infrastructure Manager
Utica
We have a couple of spots where ductwork-laden soffits and similar made being
in the hallway a bad choice, and so we moved into student rooms where
necessary. But as a rule, we stay in common spaces.
Bear in mind- for highly accurate location services, the down the middle
design approach is
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As Lee points out, most of our 3,000 intalled over the past 10 years are
indeed in public areas. Another thing to factor in for enclosures is the labor
to install them, and also the extra time and labor to replace an AP that goes
bad that is in an enclosure. And, if you upgrade your AP's, you
We install access points with integrated antennas in hallways without
enclosures. I think we have had only one (minor) incident since I've
been here (5 years).
Barron
Barron Hulver
Director of Networking, Operations, and Systems
Center for Information Technology
Oberlin College
148 West
Due to the construction of some of our dorms, somewhat like a hotel suite,
there were no public hallways so we had no choice
but to place them in the rooms.
Chris
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Barron Hulver
barron.hul...@oberlin.eduwrote:
We install access points with integrated antennas
We have several hundred APs installed in residence halls without a single
enclosure.
All but a handful are installed in public areas mostly hallways.
The housing department took responsibility for paying for vandalized access
points. We've had one damaged in the past 12 months.
Jeff
Jeff
We don’t always have open access to the hallways either without a chaperone, so
the difference between hallway and room in many residence halls wasn’t that
major. Also, the hallways are straight, so all the APs would end up within
line-of-sight of each other, which isn’t good for RRM
The RF design gets a little difficult if you have long straight hallways
lined with AP's. Too many AP's hearing each other causes problems for
channel and power planning. Placing them in the rooms made sense for us
from an accountability perspective as well as for a more manageable RF
Thanks everyone. This has been great. Looks like I don't need enclosures
but if it turns out I do I found one I can use. Thanks for all of your
help!
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:39 -0400, John Kaftan jkaf...@utica.edu
wrote:
Has anybody found a good solution for AP enclosures? Our older Residence
Halls do not have drop ceilings so we cannot hide the APs. We have found
that most things visible get destroyed.
We have no residence halls so I
We're using Xirrus products. The enclosures are no more difficult to install
than a simple mount .. maybe easier. Where we do use mounts rather than
enclosures, we use covers on the arrays. The units disappear into the
ceiling that way. We've also started running 2 cables to each array --
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