Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Comments about Aruba and Cisco????

2009-01-28 Thread Toivo Voll
Some tests we found worthwhile: -Check to see if multicast works like you expect. -Related to multicast and in general, check to see if fragmentation also leads to reordering of fragments and if your applications can live with this. -Test client throughput in various scenarios (Single client,

RE: Comments about Aruba and Cisco????

2009-01-28 Thread Christopher DeSmit
Ken, You might want to consider the management side of the project. With Cisco you can connect directly to the controller-WISM, but they recommend you use another product called WCS. Things to watch out for are in the following: 1. I am not sure with Aruba, But Cisco deployment can

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Comments about Aruba and Cisco????

2009-01-28 Thread Rob Brenner
Assuming that this will be a large scale deployment, make sure to actually use the management software during your evaluations. Cisco uses a WCS and Aruba has purchased the Airwave product. It's my opinion that with enough hard work any vendors can eventually provide a good wireless experience

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Comments about Aruba and Cisco????

2009-01-28 Thread Lee H Badman
Also- look closely at what code versions are required to do the things you want to do. Wanna do 11n? What about mesh? For Cisco, both require newer code. And depending on who in Cisco you speak with, that same newer code should be avoided in many cases. Not sure if Aruba has these same nuances,

RE: Comments about Aruba and Cisco????

2009-01-28 Thread Frank Bulk
Ken: Since a client radio can connect to only one access point at a time, (3) will not be an issue. Point (4) seems suspect, too. Frank From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher DeSmit Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Comments about Aruba and Cisco????

2009-01-28 Thread Philippe Hanset
Ken, Factors that we have considered in our wireless vendor analysis and that are beyond the controller but can make a big difference in implementation and cost are: -Form factor of the AP (size of AP, brackets, cost of antennas..) -Power requirements for full 3X3 802.11n capacity (eg: can

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Comments about Aruba and Cisco????

2009-01-28 Thread Christopher DeSmit
To clarify #3 The issue with a PC is that when you are in between the coverage of a AP, a PC will register its MAC address with the AP. When a end switch sees that address of the PC in both locations, the switch starts logging errors and is looking for a spanning tree loop. Or in other words,

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Comments about Aruba and Cisco????

2009-01-28 Thread Johnson, Bruce T
Chris, You have some good points here. You are incorrect on the power setting per controller comment. Cisco's Radio Resource Management (RRM or Auto-RF) can change the power differentially across APs, and APs can be selectively removed from global RRM control for power and channel changes, and

[WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n testplans

2009-01-28 Thread Johnson, Bruce T
Toivo et al, Great comments. Does anyone have any 802.11n testplans they are willing to share? 802.11n Survey experiences? Has it turned the traditional survey methodology on its head, or do we still have to consider legacy and so the n simply stands for Nice (if you have it). Anyone with

RE: Comments about Aruba and Cisco????

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Galiardi
Ken, Phillipe makes some good points in making sure you consider initial capital investment vs. longer-term operational costs. I'm not sure where the two vendors stand in comparison to each other these days. I can say as an Aruba house, I have not been disappointed by their product. We

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Comments about Aruba and Cisco????

2009-01-28 Thread John Watters
The Aruba-owned Airwave AMP product has quite successfully managed my Cisco WiSM deployment. We actually have two of them, one for campus APs controllers and a second for ResNet APs and controllers. I also own a WCS with its Location Appliance. But, I have quit using the WCS -- it is much harder

RE: Comments about Aruba and Cisco????

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Galiardi
Ah, I suppose it would have helped if I added my contact info :) galia...@u.washington.edu Aruba knows how to find me as well. ___ Jim Galiardi Network Specialist, Network Systems UW Technology University of Washington (206)616-0397 Box 354150 -Original

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Comments about Aruba and Cisco????

2009-01-28 Thread John Watters
(Aruba) Airwave is having a webinar in early FEB to introduce new features in their latest AMP release. This might be worth watching just to get a feel for how their interface looks and works. It manages the majority of fat APs, thin APs, and controllers. So far I have not seen a decrease in

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Comments about Aruba and Cisco????

2009-01-28 Thread Frank Bulk
Chris: Does this STP issue arise in a WiSM or fat AP configuration? Frank From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher DeSmit Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:01 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Comments about Aruba and Cisco????

2009-01-28 Thread Frank Bulk
Well, that's no surprise...that's just the nature of L2 networks. If Cisco can be criticized, it's because they have centralized and Fat AP options. Frank -Original Message- From: Christopher DeSmit [mailto:chris.des...@uncp.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 3:39 PM To: