NAT in large scale wireless networks

2008-07-01 Thread Michael Dickson
Though we currently have enough available routed IP space for our wireless clients we are looking toward the future and wondering if NAT-ing the wireless network makes sense. Does anyone have any experiences, good or bad, using NAT for the wireless client pool in a large scale environment?

Using MAC Authentication

2008-07-01 Thread Michael Dickson
We are considering using MAC authentication to allow users to bypass the captive portal web login page to access our wireless network. This is considered sort of a stop-gap measure until 802.1x is fully implemented. Is anyone maintaining (by harvesting or user-initiated manual entry) a MAC

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] NAT in large scale wireless networks

2008-07-01 Thread Philippe Hanset
Mike, We have our visitor network on NAT and got an issue recently related to RIAA (we had about 200 users on it at the time) The request from RIAA mentioned the IP address, the Application (GNUTELLA) with the local port and a timestamp. You can track the user, but it takes an accurate log!

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Using MAC Authentication

2008-07-01 Thread Ryan Lininger
We have been considering something similar. Our thought was to use MAC authentication via radius to our wired NAC system. The idea being that if they registered their system then the MAC would be in the database and they wouldn't get the captive portal at login. (Before I get flamed, our

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] NAT in large scale wireless networks

2008-07-01 Thread Karl Reuss
Last academic year we ran NAT on our main wireless network. We had about 13,000 unique users per day and about 8,000 simultaneous connections at peak times, roughly 95% student traffic. It worked, but there were a couple of issues for us: 1) Picking the correct NAT box. Catalysts 6500s do

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Using MAC Authentication

2008-07-01 Thread Randall C Grimshaw
I will offer the caution that in a captive portal, in regard to accountability, MAC harvesting is an all or nothing proposition. You will be surprised how often computers are loaned and authenticated using different accounts. If you harvest for one population, that population will eventually

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Using MAC Authentication

2008-07-01 Thread Zeller, Tom S
1. Currently we have users manually register their wireless MAC address, but from then on they don't see the guest portal, have free access to the internet (minus port25) but can only do encrypted protocols to campus without VPN. This was designed to accommodate handheld devices that couldn't

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] NAT in large scale wireless networks

2008-07-01 Thread Johnson, Neil M
What supervisor were you running in the 6500's ? -Neil -- Neil Johnson Network Engineer The University of Iowa W: 319 384-0938 M: 319 540-2081 http://www.uiowa.edu -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of