anyone still using TKIP

2009-09-30 Thread Matt Ashfield
In light of this article I'm wondering if anyone is still sticking with TKIP (for legacy system issues I would guess) as opposed to using AES solely? http://www.idgconnect.com/index.cfm?event=showarticle http://www.idgconnect.com/index.cfm?event=showarticlecid=116pk=9433 cid=116pk=9433

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] anyone still using TKIP

2009-09-30 Thread Barber, Matt
Hi Matt, We phased out two remaining WPA networks in the last couple months. We had a couple setup initially because we expected lots of clients that could not support WPA2, either because of hardware or because they were missing the necessary Windows updates. We did find quite a few people

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] anyone still using TKIP

2009-09-30 Thread Matt Ashfield
How do you go about phasing it out, if the user's SSID is already pre-configured to connect with WPA/TKIP? If you change it, will users have to manually go in and select AES, or is windows smart enough to sort that out on its own? Cheers Matt From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] anyone still using TKIP

2009-09-30 Thread Methven, Peter J
Matt, we are using both TKIP and AES on one SSID primarily for legacy reasons. Our support documentation all says to use WPA2 and AES, but we have left WPA- TKIP running for compliance with the eduroam (http://www.eduroam.org/) federated service for visitors from University's who still require

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] anyone still using TKIP

2009-09-30 Thread Greg Williams
From the tests I did when we phased TKIP out a year ago, Windows just switches encryption types. Greg Williams IT Department University of Colorado at Colorado Springs From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] anyone still using TKIP

2009-09-30 Thread Barber, Matt
Windows is definitely not smart enough or anything J Basically anyone that came into our helpdesk with the old network configured got switched over when we touched the machine. All of the new setups used our 802.1x network, so as students left or came in, we started to get everything switched

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] anyone still using TKIP

2009-09-30 Thread Barber, Matt
To clarify my statement, Greg is correct when you are just switching encryption types. But if you are switching between WPA and WPA2, at least Windows XP does not seem to cooperate well. That probably depends largely on which supplicant you are using though. Matt From: The EDUCAUSE

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iphone 3.0 auto-join problems?

2009-09-30 Thread Oliver Gorwits
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Ashfield wrote: Just to rehas this discussion... Has anyone found that the Iphone3.1 software has fixed this? We're still seeing clients with OS 3.1 suffer this auto-join problem, both iPhone and iPod Touch. I've also seen some devices work

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] BW capping

2009-09-30 Thread Cal Frye
Jason Appah wrote: I probably should have been more specific, we have a packeteer 7500 for shaping applications, the dorms need to be able to shut off internet for specific users after hey have reached their BW limit for the month. sort of like metered usage? Unless this has been added in

wireless DHCP lease time

2009-09-30 Thread Garrett Harmon
We're running into some issues at the ramp up of a quarter with our DHCP lease time attempting to utilize the /24's we currently pool for our main essid. We moved from 1hr. to 30 minutes, but are still running out of leases occasionally. For instance, we have 160 users in a /24, but due to

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless DHCP lease time

2009-09-30 Thread Johnson, Neil M
We are running a 10 minute lease on our 2 /21's with no issues that I know of. Generates a lot of logs though. I wouldn't want to go much shorter. -Neil -- Neil Johnson Network Engineer Information Technology Services The University of Iowa Work: 319 384-0938 Mobile: 319 540-2081 Fax: 319

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless DHCP lease time

2009-09-30 Thread Jason Appah
Sounds like a great use case for ip mobility... what are you running for wireless controllers? From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Garrett Harmon Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:09 AM To:

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless DHCP lease time

2009-09-30 Thread Jorge Bodden
Garret, Wireless networks tend to be used in bursts. Most of the time they are underutilized. However, we try to build them for worst case scenario situation. Sounds to me like adding another /24 might be your best bet. Also might depend on how users connect. Can anyone come in and

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless DHCP lease time

2009-09-30 Thread Garrett Harmon
We're actually running mobile IP on our Aruba controllersand love itbut that doesn't really affect the iphone users that connect and update facebook then walk somewhere without coverage essentially trahsing that IP for another 29 minutes. In our most populated stack we have 10

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless DHCP lease time

2009-09-30 Thread Methven, Peter J
Garrett, we run with 15 minute lease times on the wireless network, the only minor issue we came across was the default ARP table timeout was 30 minutes, which would normally be fine, so we needed to lower that on the network switches to match. Many Thanks Peter -Original Message- From:

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless DHCP lease time

2009-09-30 Thread kconnell
We had similar issues, and have found a happy middle with 40 min max lease time with our controllers (Aruba) having a user timeout of 38 min. Ken Connell Intermediate Network Engineer Computer Communication Services Ryerson University 350 Victoria St RM AB50 Toronto, Ont M5B 2K3 416-979-5000

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless DHCP lease time

2009-09-30 Thread James J J Hooper
Garrett Harmon wrote: We're running into some issues at the ramp up of a quarter with our DHCP lease time attempting to utilize the /24's we currently pool for our main essid. We moved from 1hr. to 30 minutes, but are still running out of leases occasionally. For instance, we have 160 users in

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless DHCP lease time

2009-09-30 Thread heath.barnhart
We run 30 minute leases for most of SSIDs, no problems. We saw an unexpected boost in wireless usage this semester though, and had to go from /22 networks to /20 to accommodate the new users and leave room for expansion. Heath Garrett Harmon wrote: We're running into some issues at the ramp

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless DHCP lease time

2009-09-30 Thread Procyk, Ian
Hey all, Very much the same case at UBC. We have 30 minute DHCP timers (so 15 minute requests) active on 12x /21's... Without it we would be hosed. We'd like to go lower, but the load on the controllers (DHCP proxy) and the DHCP server (old SPARC) would likely become a problem. Thanks, Ian

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless DHCP lease time

2009-09-30 Thread Steve Hess
We run 4 /23's (one per class) with 4 day lease times. It's very tight right now for freshmen and sophomore's but lots of room for juniors and seniors. Each class is about 350-450 students. I'm looking to add another /23 per class to provide some head room. We run 4 day lease times for the

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless DHCP lease time

2009-09-30 Thread Philippe Hanset
What a timely discussion! This morning we noticed that our pools (Aruba VLAN pools, 32* /24) were being filled from 70 to 90%. Our lease time is 3 hours. As most of you, we have been hammered by Iphone/Ipod-touch (~4000 registered at the moment) For a campus population of 30,000 (25,000

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless DHCP lease time

2009-09-30 Thread Ryan Holland
Philippe, We saw improvement moving from 1 hour to 30 minutes with no foreseen adverse affects. We are testing a few subnets on 15 minute leases, as it would be more practical to avoid any waste of leases for the 5 minute email/facebook check on an iPhone/iPod-Touch. I'll let you know if

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless DHCP lease time

2009-09-30 Thread Dennis Xu
We had run 15 minutes lease time on /22 wireless public subnets for a few years without problem. We just moved our wireless subnets to private IPs and changed to 4 hours lease time this fall. Dennis - Original Message - From: Ryan Holland holland@osu.edu To:

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless DHCP lease time

2009-09-30 Thread Richard Becker
Not sure if this is the case for anyone, but one of the issues we ran into with lease shortages was related to maybe on oversight on our part. The ISC dhcp has a max-lease-time and a default-lease-time value. While wireless was set to hand out 30-minute leases (default- lease-time),

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] wireless DHCP lease time

2009-09-30 Thread Dale W. Carder
We have quite a few wireless networks set to 15 minutes with no adverse affects. Dale On Sep 30, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Ryan Holland wrote: Philippe, We saw improvement moving from 1 hour to 30 minutes with no foreseen adverse affects. We are testing a few subnets on 15 minute leases, as it