Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Limiting Bandwidth on Autonomous APs

2010-04-23 Thread heath.barnhart
I'm probably going to get slammed for asking this, but does it have to be a technical issue? Moving 1 TB of data over wireless is really not fair to the other clients. If the usage is necessary, and you have wired Ethernet in place, I would try to have the user move to using the wired

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Limiting Bandwidth on Autonomous APs

2010-04-23 Thread Methven, Peter J
I agree with Heath on this one, I would view a student transferring 1 TB of data over our wireless network as being a non-technical issue and more one of education that, that is an incredibly selfish action if done during peak times, maybe a fair use policy is required? That being said I have

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Limiting Bandwidth on Autonomous APs

2010-04-23 Thread Barber, Matt
I'll chime in here too, with our approach. The majority of our dorms are wireless only, so we can't really push people onto the wired network to avoid things like this. We wouldn't want to do that anyway, however, as the dorms are home for our students. The great majority of students are coming

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Limiting Bandwidth on Autonomous APs

2010-04-23 Thread Jeffrey Sessler
It's unlikely that QoS is going to solve this problem unless you can properly classify the backup data from everything else. Depending on the age/type of the AP, it's firmware, and the clients connected to it, ensuring fair use of the radio may be more of a problem than the amount of traffic

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Limiting Bandwidth on Autonomous APs

2010-04-23 Thread Lee H Badman
UBRL? -Lee From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of heath.barnhart Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 10:06 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Limiting

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Limiting Bandwidth on Autonomous APs

2010-04-23 Thread Ammar Abdulahad
Nick, With BlueCoat packet shaper, you can use dynamic partitions for the dorm subnet to insure fairness to a certain extent. Or you can setup a partition to limit the backup traffic. If the backup traffic is encrypted then it's game over unless you want to use adaptive response, so when a user

Cisco Wireless Controller Feature Gaps

2010-04-23 Thread Mike King
I was asked this today, and I didn't have a good answer, looking from other Cisco Wireless Controller users to help me formulate a good response. What features do you find lacking in the wireless LAN controller that are available in other products? What is a major source of discontent with the

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Wireless Controller Feature Gaps

2010-04-23 Thread Michael Simpson
Though I wouldn't say it is a source of discontent, I would like to see VLAN Pooling added. Michael Simpson Mike King m...@mpking.com 4/23/2010 10:34 AM I was asked this today, and I didn't have a good answer, looking from other Cisco Wireless Controller users to help me formulate a good

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Limiting Bandwidth on Autonomous APs

2010-04-23 Thread heath.barnhart
You could also approach it from different angle. Work with the student to see what/why he's backing up. It sounds to me like he's backing up his entire hard drive (500+ GB?) multiple times a week. That in itself seems a little ridiculous/paranoid. See if maybe the service he is using is

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Limiting Bandwidth on Autonomous APs

2010-04-23 Thread Barber, Matt
Normally, these services do a whole backup, then only the changes afterwards. So it could just be the initial backup. I did the same thing with Carbonite recently, and besides taking a while with a relatively slow upload, there were no issues. My ISP certainly didn't let me know they cared :)

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Limiting Bandwidth on Autonomous APs

2010-04-23 Thread Urrea, Nick
I like the idea of limiting based on usage and time. The incident involving the 1 TB of data was a connection between a Mac and a Time Capsule connected to the same AP using Time Machine. The data never traversed our internet connection. Most of the problems we are experiencing could be solved

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Limiting Bandwidth on Autonomous APs

2010-04-23 Thread Jason Appah
Procera will do that exactly -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Urrea, Nick Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:08 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN]

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Limiting Bandwidth on Autonomous APs

2010-04-23 Thread Paul Sedy
It seems like you should be able to control the traffic out to the internet if you can see what it is (i.e. packetshaper). We have a packetshaper in production for this purpose, but are looking to replace it with a NetEqualizer (which penalizes heavy bandwidth users and those who have

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Limiting Bandwidth on Autonomous APs

2010-04-23 Thread Ethan Sommer
Wait, what? Do what exactly? Will it limit traffic going from one client on a particular AP to another client on the same AP? I thought procera made inline traffic shapers (such as what you would use to shape a border internet connection.) Do they also make some sort of software that

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Wireless Controller Feature Gaps

2010-04-23 Thread Jeffrey Sessler
Lee, If you have a stack of Cisco switches, say a pair of 3750G's connected via stackwise, you can split the trunks between the two. on something like a 6509, the ports can be split between line cards (that's what I'm doing with my 5508's). Push out templates - can't this be done via the

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Wireless Controller Feature Gaps

2010-04-23 Thread Jeffrey Sessler
I don't feel there is anything lacking in Cisco's product, but there are still rough edges that need a little work. That said, Cisco made a big leap in the 6.0 code, and it appears that 7.0 will improve on it. I just made the leap from the older 4404's to the 5508's, and boy are those new