We experienced this early on with joining laptops to the domain. We found
after much testing that many times the administrators of said machines have all
kinds of startup scripts doing any number of things that when they fail to
successfully run on bootup, they would hang or drive mapping
This sounds interesting.
Do you have any links with more information?
Thanks
Bruce Osborne
Wireless Network Engineer
IT Network Services
(434) 592-4229
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
40 Years of Training Champions for Christ: 1971-2011
From: Dewitt Latimer [mailto:dewittlati...@gmail.com]
Sent:
I don't think the group inside ATT that provides this (the Wireless LAN
Systems Group I think they're called) has a formal page on this. In fact, I
think the SSID overlay is a case-by-case conversation that is not formally
sanctioned by the big T.
Contact your local ATT rep and get him/her to
We were able to get AD machine to authenticate to our wireless network using
settings as you describe, but this was too late in the process for AD
management and policy group maintenance. We have created a separate secured
SSID for AD machines that uses AD machine authentication. We went a
Last year we had several students that would complain about poor wireless
coverage in their rooms. It was usually followed by the comment that they did
not have this problem at home or in other areas of the campus. After performing
various test and wireless scans I am of the opinion that a good
Ryan-
Do you feel there has been any real value to OSU, or any downside?
Thanks-
Lee H. Badman
Wireless/Network Engineer
Information Technology and Services
Adjunct Instructor, iSchool
Syracuse University
315 443-3003
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As a person who travels to many campuses, I can tell you that having my
iPhone auto-associate with a campus WiFi is a whole lot nicer than having to
bug my hosts to sponsor me for a guest wireless account.
So I think the real way to look at this is (1) how many guests do you have
to your campus,
This actually wouldn't be a bad thing for places like the stadium and dean dome
if we can manage channel interference
-- jg
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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dewitt Latimer
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:29
Currently we're addressing this issue by installing the 3500 series Cisco Clean
Air Access Points in all of our dorms and increasing the number of APs in the
dorms while we do it. These access points do interference detection and will
map it in Cisco WCS. I have a feeling it's probably going
not sure what's wrong with your destination James.
But to your point, yes, on stadium DAS projects, wifi is often thrown into
the mix. I know of several current large-scale stadium DAS projects where
WiFi is being included in the design.
On a $/meg transported, 802.11n is by far cheaper
Overlaying ATT Wi-Fi over the wireless network to me seems like the same
problem as
a vendor specific DAS.
Only ATT customers can really use the infrastructure unless you are willing to
pay a la carte for the service.
What's next? Verizon Wi-Fi, Sprint Wi-Fi... or a web page where you have to
This is where I gotta plug our Bluesocket box for guest access. They worked
with us to develop a simple SMS you your password mechanism, and I can't
imagine a simpler guest portal for people to use. The ATT model does seem
interesting, but to Phillipe's point, I'm not digging the single carrier
Be careful disabling 2 mbps. We were told at the Cisco conference in a
wireless class just last week that the Wiis require 2mbps to
successfully find and join the wireless network. I have not personally
verified this, but the source is reliable...
-Rick
On 7/21/2011 12:58 PM, Johnson, Neil
To answer Lee's question, yes, there has been value. The transient users that
use the attwifi service are the responsibility of ATT and not the university.
This is a value-add for us.
==
Ryan Holland
Network Engineer, Wireless
Office of the Chief Information Officer
The Ohio State
Have any of you added a section to orientation that discusses the problem of
interference and did it have good results.
YES, mixed results.
Did any of you do a poster campaign with good results or did you issue a
Faraday cage to each student to store their stuff in (yes that was a joke)
YES on
Our view is that in order to provide a consistent, high quality, wireless
experience that students pay for and depend upon, we have to limit
interference. We prohibit interfering devices and enforce. We do make a
concerted effort to get the word out to students on this even before they even
The stadium DAS projects with WiFi where the lead integrator is covering the
cost of the WiFi are usually locked down in one form or another. The lead
integrator would have no way to recover their investment if it was left wide
open. Most schools have not built out WiFi in stadiums except in
Yep, that was our experience with Wii's.
Through experimentation we saw that once the Wii joined, if you disabled 2mpbs,
they'd stay on...but they couldn't join if 2mbps wasn't on initially . Really
weird
Timothy J. Fairlie - Director
Network/User/Telecommunication Services (N.U.T.S)
Rider
Thanks for the heads up, but all our WLAN's require 802.1X authentication which
the Wii can't do. We're telling users to buy the wired adapter if they want to
connect them to the net.
-Neil
--
Neil Johnson
Network Engineer
The University of Iowa
Phone: 319 384-0938
Fax: 319 335-2951
Mobile:
Shouldn't Universities foot the Wi-Fi bill and make ATT pay to carry the SSID?
(ATT needs that capacity anyway if they want to service those thousands of
people
with smartphones)
That will give Universities the freedom to carry additional services when the
time comes.
Another thing to remember:
For the matter, for the price of tickets and beer, why not actually watch the
game when you're at the stadium instead of doing Facebook on your iPhone?
:)
-Lee
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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hanset,
That kinda begs the question then what DO you do about Wii's (for example)?
Do you have 1-2 Mbps disabled?
-- Jim Gogan
UNC-Chapel Hill
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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Tim Fairlie
Sent: Thursday, July
On 07/21/2011 01:43 PM, Johnson, Neil M wrote:
Thanks for the heads up, but all our WLAN's require 802.1X
authentication which the Wii can't do. We're telling users to buy the
wired adapter if they want to connect them to the net.
-Neil
Darn it, where's the Like button on Thunderbird...
like Neil, we ended up telling them to get the wired adapter
On 7/21/2011 2:36 PM, Gogan, James P wrote:
That kinda begs the question then what DO you do about Wii's (for
example)?Do you have 1-2 Mbps disabled?
-- Jim Gogan
UNC-Chapel Hill
*From:*The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues
Ha ha, yes. I give it a Like too. I'm guessing that if they are using the
connection to play online games, they are going to get a more optimal
experience using 100 mbps or Gig Ethernet full duplex wired connection than
they are going to get with a 2 mbps wireless connection.
Pete M.
Yeah, that's what we do as well, but every year, I swear we have the same
discussion re: these devices (which seems to be growing larger - recently had
reports - that were confirmed - of a model of Visio TV that won't connect
without the 1-2 Mbps rate)
-- jg
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues
This is where media hype on BYOD being something we all have to live with,
support, and wirelessly accommodate starts to feels silly. Dorm rooms are only
so big, and for devices that can’t do secure WLAN, a jack is never very far
away for us, and we too have disallowed lower data rates for
Marketing's understanding of how wireless works:
http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-04-24/
-- jg
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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:55 PM
To:
I deal mainly with end-user support.
We have dual-band in the dorms under the same SSIDs and the minimum AP rate atm
is 5.5 so first generation Wii's cannot connect and we had very very
few complains, if any. Probably 99% of the complains come for Xbox users since
it does not have a browser and
Verizon's new contracts have no unlimited plans - as of July 17 IIRC. 2 gig is
the base smartphone plan. Found that out when daughter graduated to smartphone
;o)
Sprint still advertises unlimited plans.
Mearl
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We are finally planning a WPA2 rollout after years of procrastination (or more
truthfully, finally having some time to devote to the task...)
We have Aruba, passing through Bradford, with Radius supplied by Radiator, and
authenticating NTLM to Active Directory (Win2K8).
With just a self-signed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On Thu Jul 21 14:37:48 2011 Central Time, Jeff Kell jeff-k...@utc.edu wrote:
Has anyone been there/done that with a 3rd party certificate / non-IAS/NPS
solution?
We've used Verisign and now InCommon/Comodo certs with Steel Belted RADIUS
running
When Android phones or tablets connect to a wpa2-802.1x (PEAP/MSCHAPv2) secured
SSID, you have to manually configure security settings, like in the old
Windows XP days. It seems Androids are configured for pre-share key by
default. I thought they would be able to recognize the auth/security
For the price of tuition you'd think that would apply to the classroom
too! ;-)
Dale
Thus spake Lee H Badman (lhbad...@syr.edu) on Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 02:20:47PM
-0400:
For the matter, for the price of tickets and beer, why not actually watch the
game when you're at the stadium instead of
At Indiana we have had long had separate guest SSID via a generated
account (by any faculty or staff, in bulk by convention center types).
This sorta worked but most people didn't know how to create the accounts
(or that they could) and there are plenty of visitors for whom no one
would generate
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