RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Prey Project- Open Source Device Tracking

2011-08-17 Thread Lee H Badman
There is a support community at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/prey-security it's hard to tell if the complaints are legitimate reflections on the software, or user error issues. -Lee Badman Lee H. Badman Wireless/Network Engineer Information Technology and Services Adjunct

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Lee H Badman
Strictly out of scientific curiosity, is the reduction in APs while gaining coverage based on similar power settings in both hardware sets, and how do you answer the yeah, but what about client capacity concerns in dense areas? question when the number of APs and uplinks to the network is

Any Cisco Fat AP Shops in Need Of...

2011-08-17 Thread Lee H Badman
We have two previously loved WLSE management appliances about to go to the scrap pile, but I'd rather see them in use as they are da bomb for managing fat Cisco WLANs. I'm sure the price would be quite attractive if anyone has the need. I'll even do buy one, get one free (as far you know)!

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Harry Rauch
Yes, we ran both systems at max power to allow for greatest range; our densities in some lecture halls were over 150 active users for one array. Ruckus provides a link to Tom's Hardware Guide that has done some extensive testing of several front-line enterprises APs. The results may surprise

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Lee H Badman
Excellent information, Harry- Thanks. I have a feeling Cisco cringes to read that 3500 APs were tested with 4402s instead of 5508 controllers. -Lee Badman From: Harry Rauch [mailto:rauc...@eckerd.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:22 AM To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group

RE: Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Kellogg, Brian D.
We're looking seriously at Ruckus to solve our coverage issues simply due to the fact of where we had to install our APs in our dorms (in the hallways). Our initial tests show much improved SNR over most vendors to the edge of our dorms with their mid-range AP. We had another vendor test

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Harry Rauch
But in a real-world dorm scenario - microwaves, game consoles with wireless controllers, a wide variety of cell phones using the wireless, laptops that have Ad-hoc inadvertently turned on, etc. - the Ruckus has performed exceedingly well. Of course, for us, the cost factor was significant. We

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Mike King
The funny part about this article, Merikai is consistently horrible. On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Mike King m...@mpking.com wrote: I'm thinking the Unfiltered version is this one? http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wi-fi-performance,2985.html (Which also references this article, (the

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Lee H Badman
Well... I might challenge that to a point. Though I didn't lab test, I did just put in a 35-AP Meraki environment in Syracuse University's London facility. Spot checking through the wireless APs I tested (basically FTP of large files and simple throughput tests) showed what I would expect in

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Brian Helman
Lee, one thing to be aware of is that these other companies (Ruckus, Xirrus, etc) use arrays, not access points. So there are multiple radios per unit. On a per-radio basis, the number of users may be similar to a single access point (we've found it to be higher by about 20-30%), but

RE: Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Kellogg, Brian D.
Due to the directional antenna array Ruckus uses they recommend not using dynamic power management. Those that are using their APs; are you finding this to be viable in real world deployments? -Brian #2 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Lee H Badman
Agreed- and it is fascinating stuff. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian Helman [bhel...@salemstate.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:59 AM To:

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Harry Rauch
Real-world conditions almost always seem to shoot lab conditions in the foot. I think Tom's has done a follow-up recently that show some of the strengths and weaknesses of a wide variety of APs. I think the beam-forming concept used by Ruckus is very interesting as well as very effective.

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Harry Rauch
I have found that the issue of using full power doesn't seem to affect the day-to-day use. If I were using a Ruckus in a small office I have been tempted to reduce power but have found this to be less than useful. Harry Rauch Sr. Network Analyst Eckerd College 4200 - 54th Ave S St.

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Johnson, Bruce T.
The question I have had with Ruckus is how their APs coordinate their beamforming activities so as to not contend for the same clients. It seems there would need to be a control plane to avoid AP contention. How does one survey for these APs? Do you factor in the beamforming (unicast frames,

RE: Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Kellogg, Brian D.
That is one of my concerns as well. I've not been able to find a good answer to it as yet. Brian -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Johnson, Bruce T. Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Harry Rauch
From what I can tell they use the MAC address as a base identifier; in a mesh the system identifies the device and somehow decides and which AP has a better signal/connection. Unmeshed APs simply hold on to the device until the signal becomes too weak when another AP would be picked up by the

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Marcus Burton
In a general sense, I would question putting Ruckus and Xirrus in the same group as arrays. The two are quite different. From a radio hardware perspective, Ruckus APs are the same as any other access point, in that they offer combinations of single or dual radio 2.4 and 5 GHz APs. Their indoor

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Johnson, Bruce T.
Thanks, That makes sense, since the client decides anyway. It seems this may make the decision less clear to clients without AP coordination, but perhaps not. The AP co-channel interference reduction offered by Ruckus is certainly appealing, especially for mesh. Thanks, Bruce T. Johnson |

Re: Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Dan Young
Interesting eval of some older Ruckus gear by Stuart Cheshire: http://www.stuartcheshire.org/papers/Ruckus-WiFi-Evaluation.pdf He's an Apple engineer primarily responsible for Zeroconf, co-author of several RFCs, and wrote the classic Mac game Bolo! Go Google that, kids... -- Dan Young

Aruba

2011-08-17 Thread Kellogg, Brian D.
Looking for thoughts on Aruba for the following: M3 controller 105 APs How is their support? What were the differentiators with Aruba that led to your institution choosing them over others? Stability of firmware in APs and controller? If we choose Aruba we most likely will not be able to

RE: Aruba

2011-08-17 Thread Greene, Chip
We have only deployed Aruba over the past few months through a campus refresh project so I will answer with that caveat. 1. We have deployed 2 6000 Chassis with 2 M3 Controllers each. Licensing was a little confusing at first, and so was the methodologies used in configuring. Coming from a

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ruckus

2011-08-17 Thread Johnson, Bruce T.
Do you modify Mandatory/Supported the data rates on Ruckus APs? I suspect keeping lower Mandatory rates allows clients to associate at long range with broadcast frames sent omni-directionally, after which beamforming kicks in for unidirectional data frames at higher data rates. Thanks, Bruce

RE: Aruba

2011-08-17 Thread Oakes, Carl W
Hello, We've had Aruba for several years now and are very happy with them. We have 5 M3's, 1 Master 4 Locals, ~800 AP's (could do it with 3 M3's, history there...) the Master acts as a failover for the locals. We don't have redundancy on the Master at this time. Would like to, but at the