Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] FTE's for Wireless
University of Michigan has over 13,000 access points and we're continuing to install for the next 9 months to reach a goal of about 16,000. We have about 8 FTEs assigned to this but some have duties that aren't specifically wireless and so that's why the number is approximate. We have also employed an external contractor to perform pre-installation site surveys and design for the majority of this project. Engineers are responsible for design and design reviews, development of scope of work, in-depth troubleshooting, new product testing, etc. Network analysts are responsible for overseeing installation, turn-up, and day to day operations. Conduit, cabling and installation is handled by our plant operations and facilities groups respectively. As to whether we have enough people, I think the answer is yes under normal circumstances. We could use a few more people right now in order to relieve the folks with more technical expertise so they can spend time thinking about the myriad requests we get on a daily basis that are outside the scope of this project. Mostly this is exceptions requested by departments, one off projects, the growing demand to handle IoT, etc. I will add that before we undertook this project we had almost daily negative input from campus about their WiFi experience. In the past year we've had almost no complaints. Instead we've seen a number of tweets from people who've left the university and who are missing their UofM WiFi experience. Details on the project here: http://its.umich.edu/projects/wifi-upgrade/ On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Hector J Rios <hr...@lsu.edu> wrote: > Need your help. What is the number of network engineers you have dedicated > to wireless? Please indicate the size of your network, the scope of your > wireless team's responsibilities, whether you rely on other resources (like > contractors or other internal groups) to complement your efforts, and the > most important question, is this enough people or do you need more (if so, > what would the ideal number be)? > > Not sure if this has been done before, if so, please let me know. > > Here at LSU, we have 3600 APs, and two wireless engineers. The scope of > their work includes plan reviews (designing WLANs for new construction), > requests for additional coverage, site surveys, Tier 3 level of support, > Controller/AP config/monitoring/maintenance, lifecycle replacements, > testing/evals/research of new technologies. We rely on cable contractors to > run cable and mount APs , NOC personnel to install some switches, APs, and > troubleshooting, and student workers to configure APs and minor > deployments. Two wireless engineers is not enough for us. We need at least > one more. > > If you think there is value in this information and would prefer a better > format let me know. > > Regards, > > Hector Rios > Louisiana State University > > ** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss. > -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS Infrastructure 734-763-6389 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Solar Power AP Setup
For a variety of reasons the only option for us at these locations is solar. We really would prefer real AC power, but it's just not available. On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Mike King <m...@mpking.com> wrote: > Just another comment that solar might not be the best application. > I see in the archives you run Cisco. > > Cisco has a whole line of outdoor Mesh AP's, that mount on streetlgihts, > and tap the power from the streetlight. You unscrew the solar eye (the > thing that turns the light off during the day) plug in the streetlight tap, > and then plug the solar eye back into the tap. > Picture: > http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/i/21-30/280001- > 29/281001-282000/281939.eps/_jcr_content/renditions/281939.jpg > Taken from page: > http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/access_point/ > 1550/installation/guide/1550hig/1550_ch2.html#36695 > > There are a few that have been up for almost 10 years now around my place. > Google street view: > https://www.google.com/maps/@41.989591,-70.9755743,3a,75y, > 19.01h,99.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sB2yFva3dugadtFxyzEkoRg! > 2e0!7i13312!8i6656 > > We pay a rental fee to the power company to "rent" they're street lamp, > and it includes power. > > > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 7:24 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations) < > bosbo...@liberty.edu> wrote: > >> We have not done bus stops but we have a couple of battery powered mobile >> packs using Aruba RAP-155 with cellular backhaul. We aimed for 10 hour >> battery life. In reality, the laptops people were using ran out of battery >> before the mobile pack. These were originally designed with Aruba RAP-5WN >> on 2.4 GHz. This is a 12 volt system >> >> >> >> We also have several highway coach buses using Aruba RAP-3 connected to >> the router & cellular backhaul in the bus. Our main caution is to be sure >> to pick an appropriate data plan. A bus full of athletes can burn through a >> lot of data! This uses an inverter in the bus but I believe the RAP-3s we >> are using are 48 volt. >> >> >> >> Both systems set up an IPsec Tunnel across the Internet to our wireless >> controller. >> >> >> >> *Bruce Osborne* >> >> *Senior Network Engineer* >> >> *Network Operations - Wireless* >> >> *(434) 592-4229 <(434)%20592-4229>* >> >> *LIBERTY UNIVERSITY* >> >> *Training Champions for Christ since 1971* >> >> >> >> *From:* James Helzerman [mailto:jarh...@umich.edu] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:33 PM >> *Subject:* Solar Power AP Setup >> >> >> >> Has anyone used or currently have any access points powered by solar >> panels? I am looking at doing a few proof of concepts at some bus stops to >> try and provide connectivity for those waiting for the bus. I am >> interested with the following particular questions but please add any >> comments or suggestions you may have. >> >> >> >> Questions: >> >> >> >> What make/model solar system do you have? >> >> >> >> What APs and antennas are you using? >> >> >> >> What are the power ratings of the solar system (12v, 48v, 120v, wattage, >> etc.)? >> >> >> >> How does the AP connect to the power such as a power injector running >> 120v, direct connect via DC, DC-to-DC converter, etc? >> >> >> >> What is your targeted uptime? Ie how long should the battery last in the >> event of bad weather. >> >> >> >> Any other comments or stories to share would be most helpful. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> -Jimmy >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> James Helzerman >> Wireless Network Engineer >> University of Michigan - ITS >> >> Phone: 734-615-9541 <(734)%20615-9541> >> >> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE >> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >> http://www.educause.edu/discuss. >> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE >> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >> http://www.educause.edu/discuss. >> >> > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/ > discuss. > > -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS Infrastructure 734-763-6389 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] point to point wireless bridge
We have Bridgewave in production but lately have been installing the Ubiquiti AirFiber (AF24) product. Very reliable and inexpensive. Longest link is about a kilometer. On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Daniel Wurst <wur...@denison.edu> wrote: > We (Denison University) have been using Aruba AP277s for point to point > bridging. > > For anyone familiar with Aruba Mesh we set them up as portal - point > configurations. I have also been able to setup point to multipoint > connections this way. There were some initial setup hurtles but once we > got by these they have been very stable and have performed well. > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu> wrote: > >> I have to chime in on LigoWave- introduced to me by a gent that runs a >> company that uses them all over London. Light, easy, cheap, intuitive, >> rugged. >> >> https://www.ligowave.com/ >> >> Have half a dozen in use now here. >> >> -Lee Badman >> >> Lee Badman | Network Architect (CWDP, CWNA, CWSP, Mobility+) >> Information Technology Services >> 206 Machinery Hall >> 120 Smith Drive >> Syracuse, New York 13244 >> t 315.443.3003 f 315.443.4325 e lhbad...@syr.edu w its.syr.edu >> SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY >> syr.edu >> >> -Original Message- >> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: >> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Eriks Rugelis >> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 9:32 AM >> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU >> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] point to point wireless bridge >> >> Bruce Entwistle wrote: >> > We have been running a pair of Bridgewave GE60 units for several years >> to link to some remote buildings. We recently learned >> > that these units are reaching/reached EOL, so it is time to begin >> looking at replacing this hardware. I was looking to see what >> >others have used for this type of link. The distance between the two >> units is about 200 feet and the bridge units are connecting to >> > 1Gb ports on the switches at each end. >> >> We too are using GE60's. In our case for two different links, one is >> approx. 520m and the other approx. 640m. We have been very happy with >> them but they came at a premium price point. >> >> For a distance of <100m I would consider low-cost options such as >> MikroTik and others. About 3 years ago I deployed 6 pairs of MikroTik SXT >> 5 units (these date from before 11ac was released) at the self-help yacht >> club where I keep my sailboat. The shot distances are: 1x 45m, 1x 75m, 4x >> 95m. The SXT's have survived two of the nastiest winters in recent memory >> and they continue to work today. Except as a customer, I have no other >> interest in MikroTik. >> >> More info here: >> http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/antenas-160404123306.pdf >> >> Good hunting! >> --- >> Eriks Rugelis >> Manager, Network Development, University Information Technology >> York University, Toronto >> >> ** >> Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent >> Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >> >> ** >> Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent >> Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >> >> > > > -- > Daniel Wurst > Network Engineer II > Denison University > Fellows 003B > wur...@denison.edu > 740-587-6229 > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS/CSDC 734-763-6389 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Camouflage Outdoor AP enclosures?
Maybe something like this: http://www.lowes.com/pd_598525-57508-112-RB_0__=50165281_mmc=SCE_PLA_ONLY-_-RoughPlumbingElectrical-_-SosPumpsTanks-_-50165281:Dekorra=320011480002566881=50165281=pla=17210234432=pla-78785768312?k_clickID=71d685bc-6669-4e2a-88a1-b241df2a341d On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Dan Lauing <lau...@mc.edu> wrote: > I can't help you, but you've stumbled on to a pet peeve of mine that I > feel compelled to share. > > In buildings, we have cameras, air returns, lighting, clocks, TV's, fire > alarms, sprinkler heads, sprinkler systems, air ducts, window units, > ceiling grills, exit signs, water-stained tiles, conduits (old bldgs) > running all over the place, etc., but when I need to place an access point > somewhere it's suddenly an eye sore. > > And, the same could be said for the outside. > > I think as people get used to seeing wireless access points, hiding them > will cease to be a thing. I'd actually rather people not hide them, so I'd > know where to get the best signal. > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Jeffrey D. Sessler < > j...@scrippscollege.edu> wrote: > >> Looking for ideas for camouflaging outdoor WAPs. We have a few in NEMA >> enclosures where they are co-located near above-ground irrigation, but I >> need to place two adjacent to a bocce court/field, and the architects want >> them “invisible.” There are adjacent planters but they are on-grade with no >> above-ground irrigation controls. They want me to find something similar to >> a speaker enclosed in a fake rock. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> -- >> Jeffrey D Sessler >> Director of Information Technology >> Scripps College >> 909-607-1225 >> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE >> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >> http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >> >> > > > -- > > *dan b. lauing ii* > *Wireless Network Administrator* > *Mississippi College* > > > *CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT:* > > This communication may contain confidential information. If you are not the > intended recipient or if you are not authorized to receive this > communication, please notify and return the message to the sender, *and > delete this communication including any attachments*. Unauthorized > reviewing, forwarding, copying, distributing or using this information is > strictly prohibited. > > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS/CSDC 734-763-6389 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Welcome to Bring-Your-Own-Access | EdTech Magazine
At Michigan we've gone with the 'Provide great wifi all over the place' model because - It's what the students expect - We know we can provide a better experience if it's centrally controlled - We know we'll get support calls if we don't, regardless of policy. And by providing great wifi we won't get as many support calls On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Philippe Hanset <phan...@anyroam.net> wrote: > When we did the campus wide Wi-Fi at University of Tennessee back in 2001, > we decided to not cover student housing. > A few years later an inspired CIO, under the pressure of the student body, > asked to provide Wi-Fi in the lobby of each student housing property. > For two years our help desk was flooded with complaints of Wi-Fi not > working in the bedrooms … where we never actually provided coverage! > The SSID branding was extremely confusing with students naming their > private Wi-Fi with the same name as the campus Wi-Fi. > The following year, a budget was provided to carpet cover all dormitories > with Wi-Fi. > > My advice would be either: > > -Provide a great Wi-Fi well controlled all over the places, or > -Provide a half baked Wi-Fi and you will either end up disconnecting it or > finding a magic budget to move to a fully baked solution, or > -Do not provide Wi-Fi at all > > As Lee mentioned, there is no practical in-between. > > Philippe > > Philippe Hanset > www.anyroam.net > www.eduroam.us > +1 (865) 236-0770 > > GPG key id: 0xF2636F9C > > > > > > > On Mar 11, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu > <lhbad...@syr.edu>> wrote: > > Agreed- you either totally surrender the space to an unsupported (as in > ZERO support) network circus paradigm, or you manage it. There is no > practical and realistic in-between. > > Lee Badman | Network Architect (CWNA, CWSP, Mobility+) > Information Technology Services > 206 Machinery Hall > 120 Smith Drive > Syracuse, New York 13244 > t 315.443.3003 f 315.443.4325 e lhbad...@syr.edu w its.syr.edu > SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY > syr.edu > > -Original Message- > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank Sweetser > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 8:38 AM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Welcome to Bring-Your-Own-Access | EdTech > Magazine > > You can put me squarely in the "hell no!" camp on this one. We already > have > enough problems as it is with printers camping on channel 7, and devices > where > the off button just hides the SSID while still keeping the radio powered > up > and operating. I can only imagine the fun and games that would be > involved in > troubleshooting that kind of heterogeneous, uncoordinated RF soup. > > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu| For every problem, there is a solution > that > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > > On 03/10/2016 09:10 PM, Trent Hurt wrote: > > Any folks looking to adopt bring your own access policies? > > > > http://edtechmagazine.com/higher/article/2015/12/welcome-bring-your-own-access > > > Sent from my iPhone > ** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > ** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS/CSDC 734-763-6389 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco LWAP Advice
stituent Group Listserv [ > mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] *On Behalf Of *Jake Snyder > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 09, 2015 9:07 PM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco LWAP Advice > > > > So the only AP still sold new that is supported on a 4404 is the 3502i. > > > > Not much in the way for options on that old platform, but that is what you > can still buy. Might be time to look at upgrading that old girl. > > Thanks > > Jake Snyder > > jsny...@compunet.biz > > 208-286-3015 > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Dec 9, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Andrew Conley <andrew.con...@sduhsd.org > <andrew.con...@sduhsd.org>> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm new to the EduCause community (even though I'm a HS District IT > Director and Educause is for Higher-Ed..). We're a 135,000 student and > 6,000 staff district (very large). I am doing a AP deploy for a new high > school building (I have a Cisco WLC4402-100-K9 installed in the building > already) with approximately 500 clients connected and wanted to know what > Cisco LWAPs everyone was using or would recommend for this deploy. > > > > Thanks in advance for your assistance! > > > > *Andrew Conley* > > *Director of Information Technology* > > San Diego Unified High School District > > E: andrew.con...@sduhsd.org > > W: 760.363.5008 x 1009 > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/ > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.educause.edu_groups_=BQMCaQ=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ=rYfqH_8oTvcXxRxUI3x3m3Y7Nwgir7tnuoGbdZsrUM4=ZgI1Xf8x2nsnKFQseeU3XTPX1TFvI2zMb8SQY-buDaU=zocr_Agw0SFg1JlyZDyWkNVAdbVPrQb0uTtAay3x4B8=>. > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/ > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.educause.edu_groups_=BQMCaQ=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ=rYfqH_8oTvcXxRxUI3x3m3Y7Nwgir7tnuoGbdZsrUM4=ZgI1Xf8x2nsnKFQseeU3XTPX1TFvI2zMb8SQY-buDaU=zocr_Agw0SFg1JlyZDyWkNVAdbVPrQb0uTtAay3x4B8=>. > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS/CSDC 734-763-6389 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and Elevators
I should add that the fire marshall views stairwells as a means of egress and so does not want people congregating in them in an emergency. On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Daniel Eklund <ekl...@umich.edu> wrote: > Lee, > > At the University of Michigan we are in the midst of a large scale > buildout. We currently are locating access points as close as possible to > stairwells, but not in them because our fire marshall will not allow us to > locate access points or antennas in the stairwells themselves. WRT > elevators, our concern is that having an AP roaming from floor to floor > through the building will wreak havoc on the system. > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu> wrote: > >> Hello to the excellent group. >> >> As you get into new building wireless deployments, I’m wondering if >> anyone is rethinking their coverage of elevators (like with dedicated >> coverage in each car) and stairwells (also specific coverage, not just >> bleed out from hallways) now that we’re into the era of Wi-FI calling, >> RTLS, safety apps, etc. >> >> Granted, if you have an established VoWiFi culture, the question may seem >> low-brow, for the rest of us I’d love to hear your thoughts on what you are >> doing with WLAN in stairwells and elevators, what you’re planning on doing >> differently from what you’ve done in the past (if anything), whys and >> why-nots, and general thoughts on the topic. >> >> Thanks- >> >> Lee Badman >> >> *Lee Badman* | Network Architect >> Information Technology Services >> 206 Machinery Hall >> 120 Smith Drive >> Syracuse, New York 13244 >> *t* 315.443.3003 * f* 315.443.4325 *e* *lhbad...@syr.edu* >> <lhbad...@syr.edu> *w* its.syr.edu >> >> *SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY *syr.edu >> >> >> >> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE >> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >> http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >> >> > > > -- > Daniel Eklund > Network Planning Manager > ITS/CSDC > 734-763-6389 > -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS/CSDC 734-763-6389 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Purpose-Built Wireless Coverage in Stairwells and Elevators
Lee, At the University of Michigan we are in the midst of a large scale buildout. We currently are locating access points as close as possible to stairwells, but not in them because our fire marshall will not allow us to locate access points or antennas in the stairwells themselves. WRT elevators, our concern is that having an AP roaming from floor to floor through the building will wreak havoc on the system. On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu> wrote: > Hello to the excellent group. > > As you get into new building wireless deployments, I’m wondering if anyone > is rethinking their coverage of elevators (like with dedicated coverage in > each car) and stairwells (also specific coverage, not just bleed out from > hallways) now that we’re into the era of Wi-FI calling, RTLS, safety apps, > etc. > > Granted, if you have an established VoWiFi culture, the question may seem > low-brow, for the rest of us I’d love to hear your thoughts on what you are > doing with WLAN in stairwells and elevators, what you’re planning on doing > differently from what you’ve done in the past (if anything), whys and > why-nots, and general thoughts on the topic. > > Thanks- > > Lee Badman > > *Lee Badman* | Network Architect > Information Technology Services > 206 Machinery Hall > 120 Smith Drive > Syracuse, New York 13244 > *t* 315.443.3003 * f* 315.443.4325 *e* *lhbad...@syr.edu* > <lhbad...@syr.edu> *w* its.syr.edu > > *SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY *syr.edu > > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS/CSDC 734-763-6389 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Internet Service Provider Options
Not knowing the actual location makes it hard to make a suggestion. Have they considered using a 4G mobile hotspot? On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Wang, Yu ywan...@fsu.edu wrote: Bonded T1 or offload services to a cloud service so large downloads/uploads happen inside the cloud might be options. Yu *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Stewart, Joe *Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2015 5:17 PM *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Internet Service Provider Options A friend of mine has a small business housed within a small airport. They currently have a T1 transport that they’ve outgrown. I was wondering if anyone has any recommendations on other options within Southern California that wouldn’t cost an arm and a leg. They only have about 5 computers and 5 VOIP phones but 3Mbps is hard to deal with when large files are being downloaded/uploaded simultaneously. They’ve tried calling to get DSL and Cable and they are striking out on all site surveys through Verizon and Time Warner. Thanks, Joe Stewart Network Specialist II Claremont McKenna College 325 E. 8th Street Roberts South # 12 Claremont, CA 91711 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS/CSDC 734-763-6389 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] latest from FCC on de-authing Mi-Fi
Here's something I wonder about. In some cases (T-Mobile for instance) the WiFi network can be used as a substitute for the cellular network in order to make calls. If I am preventing you from connecting to my WiFi network via a password, am I 'jamming'? I think, according to this definition I am. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Turner, Ryan H rhtur...@email.unc.edu wrote: I don't know, Bruce. The government has been very aggressive shutting down every place in the US that sells proper jamming equipment. Even shutting down individual craigslist retailers. What is easier for them to do? Tell Cisco and Aruba and the other wireless players to disable and stop marketing the protection features in the US, or to hunt down individual offenders. I suspect there is more give in this than appears, or all our wireless vendors would have already been repremanded or fined. Ryan Turner Senior Network Engineer, ITS The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill +1 919 274 7926 Mobile +1 919 445 0113 Office On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:38 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) bosbo...@liberty.edu wrote: You missed a part on the second page of the FCC link. In addition, we reiterate that Federal law prohibits the operation, marketing, or sale of any type of jamming equipment, including devices that interfere with Wi-Fi, cellular, or public safety communications. Detailed information about the prohibition against jamming is available on the Commission’s website at http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/jammer-enforcement. So, the current enterprise wireless systems are indeed illegal to sell in the US. *Bruce Osborne* *Network Engineer – Wireless Team* *IT Network Services* *(434) 592-4229 %28434%29%20592-4229* *LIBERTY UNIVERSITY* *From:* John Rodkey [mailto:rod...@westmont.edu rod...@westmont.edu] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:37 PM *Subject:* Re: latest from FCC on de-authing Mi-Fi From the FCC's FAQ in respect to public vs private property : Jamming devices may not be used regardless of whether the device is operated on public or private property. If you own a jammer, do not continue to operate it. You risk substantial fines (of up to $16,000 for each violation or each day of a continuing violation, or up to $112,000 for a single act); seizure of the device by the government; and criminal imprisonment. Signal jammers do not respect property lines, and *federal law provides no exception that allows for the private or commercial use of a jammer*. The same FAQ explicitly names WiFi along with GPS and Cell as falling within this jurisdiction, although it appears to be referencing jamming devices, not jamming mechanisms (using NAK protocols, for instance). Nevertheless, they specify that jammers prevent your Wi-Fi enabled device from connecting to the Internet; and this appears to be the basis on which Marriott was pursued. In Marriott's case, protocol blocking not physical signal jamming was the method used. John On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:22 AM, John Rodkey rod...@westmont.edu wrote: Indeed! The statement clarifies aspects of this, but muddies others. WARNING: *Wi-Fi Blocking is Prohibited.* *Persons or Businesses* Causing Intentional Interference to Wi-Fi Hot Spots Are Subject to Enforcement Action We start with a general statement that (presumably) ALL blocking is prohibited. Then move on to Persons or Businesses ... are subject to enforcement. Are there entities which are neither Persons nor Businesses? To the best of my knowledge all enterprise wireless systems are operated by persons. If you aren't a Person and you aren't a Business, then you're in the clear: FCC won't be pursuing enforcement against you. For the rest of us who are persons... Then the statement notes a trend among commercial establishments, and cites the example of Marriott, and then muddies the water when it designates hotels, convention centers or other commercial establishments. How many colleges and universities host conferences during the summer? Would they be considered convention centers? Is student housing considered the equivalent to 'hotels' in the view of the law? We need Educause lawyers to pin this down... On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Thomas Carter tcar...@austincollege.edu wrote: I'm disappointed in the statement from the FCC. This was a chance to clarify their position on this, but it's still as vague as ever. What is a commercial establishment? Does that include K-12 or Higher Ed? What about a corporate HQ? I'm also disappointed that the wireless vendors have been quiet on this issue as well. Where is Cisco, Aruba, Rukus, et. al who provide us with these tools? One reading of the FCC notice is that the product they market and sell is illegal. I feel they should be leading the charge with the FCC for clarification for us, their customers. Thomas Carter Network and
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] USB / Electric charging stations
Charging devices have changed a lot over the past 15 years or so, but 110V outlets have not. Which one would you choose for longevity? I would choose 110V every day. On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Odtohan, Cathi codto...@erikson.edu wrote: At one point we considered something like KwikBoost charging stations http://www.kwikboost.com/ but people balked at the price. We did put a desktop multi-device charger in the student commons area and locked it down to a tabletop. -Original Message- From: Brian Helman [mailto:bhel...@salemstate.edu] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:22 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: USB / Electric charging stations --_000_70A4CA525A32FF42BBB8D79EEC55B3BB41E1B399WMXD04Psscadsal_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ..just a diversion from the network side of wireless/BYOD, but how do peopl= e (if at all) address the need for charging the devices that your users wan= t to throw on your wireless networks in public areas? We've been throwing up new construction at a rate of about 1 new building e= very 12-18 months. Architects love to use floor-to ceiling glass on curtai= n walls these days, so where do you put outlets? If you put them on the fl= oor, they aren't convenient to access. I've pushed for electricity near/under everywhere that we'll have furniture= (or at least a good portion) that is conducive to studying or lounging for= a long time. But I'm also trying to take it a step further. Anyone offer= ing anything like this? The unit below is ok (and commercial grade), but a= esthetically it's .. eh. What are you all doing? http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/work-benches/power-strips/surge-protector= s/wsc320-s-commercial-cord-ended-tabletop-unit-125v-15a-6-1116l-4-outlets?i= nfoParam.campaignId=3DT9Fgclid=3DCJOMk5fUtMMCFRNp7AodkSIAoQ -Brian ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. --_000_70A4CA525A32FF42BBB8D79EEC55B3BB41E1B399WMXD04Psscadsal_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable html dir=3Dltr head meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3Dtext/html; charset=3Diso-8859-= 1 style type=3Dtext/css id=3DowaParaStyle/style /head body fpstyle=3D1 ocsi=3D0 div style=3Ddirection: ltr;font-family: Tahoma;color: #00;font-size: = 10pt;..just a diversion from the network side of wireless/BYOD, but how d= o people (if at all) address the need for charging the devices that your us= ers want to throw on your wireless networks in public areas? divbr /div divWe've been throwing up new construction at a rate of about 1 new build= ing every 12-18 months. nbsp;Architects love to use floor-to ceiling glass= on curtain walls these days, so where do you put outlets? nbsp;If you put= them on the floor, they aren't convenient to access./div divbr /div divI've pushed for electricity near/under everywhere that we'll have furn= iture (or at least a good portion) that is conducive to studying or loungin= g for a long time. nbsp;But I'm also trying to take it a step further. nb= sp;Anyone offering anything like this? nbsp;The unit below is ok (and commercial grade), but aesthetically it's .. eh./di= v divbr /div divWhat are you all doing?/div divbr /div diva href=3D http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/work-benches/power-strips= /surge-protectors/wsc320-s-commercial-cord-ended-tabletop-unit-125v-15a-6-1= 116l-4-outlets?infoParam.campaignId=3DT9Famp;gclid=3DCJOMk5fUtMMCFRNp7Aodk= SIAoQ target=3D_blank style=3Dfont-size: 10pt; http://www.globalindust= rial.com/p/work-benches/power-strips/surge-protectors/wsc320-s-commercial-c= ord-ended-tabletop-unit-125v-15a-6-1116l-4-outlets?infoParam.campaignId=3DT= 9Famp;gclid=3DCJOMk5fUtMMCFRNp7AodkSIAoQ/anbsp;/div divbr /div div-Brian/div divbr /div divbr /div /div /body /html ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. p --_000_70A4CA525A32FF42BBB8D79EEC55B3BB41E1B399WMXD04Psscadsal_-- ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] IOS 8 roaming and Iphone 6 behavior
Has the mesh formed yet Lee? On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: 11r, yes, not 11k. :) To many 11s in my brain. Lee H. Badman Network Architect/Wireless TME ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU on behalf of Bruce Curtis bruce.cur...@ndsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 3:29 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] IOS 8 roaming and Iphone 6 behavior We have had 802.11k enabled since September 2013. It was recommended to have a separate SSID for 802.11r and non-802.11r clients but version 8 will allow both on the same SSID. We have not upgraded to 8 yet but will try enabling 802.11r when we do upgrade. On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: I believe support for 802.11k is still greatly fragmented in the client space, no? And the recommendation at one point was to use a distinct 11k SSID for the likes of iPhones. Anyone know the latest on the general state of how non 11k clients will work on an 11k-enabled WLAN? -Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dexter Caldwell Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 12:19 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] IOS 8 roaming and Iphone 6 behavior Hi All, Just wanted to pass this along in case anyone else finds it useful. http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/technotes/8-0/iPhone_roam/b_iPhone-roaming.html D/C ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found athttp:// www.educause.edu/groups/. --- Bruce Curtis bruce.cur...@ndsu.edu Certified NetAnalyst II701-231-8527 North Dakota State University ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal
They're trying to enforce their rule making, which means this will likely end up in court. But yeah, I agree that they're firing a warning shot that using quarantine features goes against their rules. Can't go to jail for doing it, but they do have the authority to levy fines. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: What do you all think of this? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/10/after-blocking-personal-hotspot-at-hotel-marriott-to-pay-fcc-60/ - Lee Badman -- ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Replacing ageing APs
Oli, The University of Michigan has been in a similar position until recently. We are moving toward a funding model whereby units will provide central IT with funding sufficient to cover their portion of the wired and wireless infrastructure on campus. The initial refresh of WiFi is being provided by one-time funding. We already do this for the core network on campus, as well as for our Internet connections, so we are pretty confident that this will move forward since everyone wants to have a reliable and up to date network. -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers University of Michigan 734.763.6389 On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Oliver Elliott oliver.elli...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: Hi all I've been looking into EOLs and end of software support for some of our older APs and was wondering what other institutions do to keep their estate up to date. Up to now we've had very sparse funding for wireless as it was always viewed as an add on service. A recent outage (caused by buggy 7.6.120 code) has shown just how important Wifi has become. Up to now APs have been largely installed on an ad-hoc basis with funding from departments or projects but this doesn't tend to account for EOL replacement. We're looking to apply for a formal replacement project based on either rolling yearly replacement budget or a big bang approach every few years. So, how do you guys handle this problem? Oli -- Oliver Elliott Network Specialist IT Services University of Bristol e: oliver.elli...@bristol.ac.uk t: 0117 92 (87861) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Aerohive
If any of you have a large installation of Aerohive I'd like to talk with you privately about your experiences. Thanks -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers University of Michigan 734.763.6389 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Recent Campus-Wide WiFi Deployments
Hello, We're just about to kick off a replacement and expansion of our wifi network and so I'm looking to talk with anyone who's done something similar, mostly to find out what worked and what didn't. Feel free to contact me directly. Thanks -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers University of Michigan 734.763.6389 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Deployment of AirFiber bridges
Yes, we have a set up and running. Distance is 1.25 miles. One end is on top of a 15 story building the other end is a 1 story commercial rooftop. No problems since putting them online about 6 months ago. I think we're getting around 700Mbps. We did not do extensive tuning since this was more than adequate, so you may get closer to their stated 1.4Gbps if you spend some time with them. -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers University of Michigan 734.763.6389 On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Jack R. Madderra jack.madde...@tu.edu wrote: Has anyone deployed the AirFiber bridges on their campus networks? Please provide some feedback if you have. http://www.ubnt.com/airfiber#af Thank you! Jack R. Madderra, MCSE, A+, Net+, Sec+, Project+ Network Manager Touro University California 1310 Club Drive ~ Mare Island Vallejo, CA 94592 ph: 707.638.5427 fax: 707.638.5430 === What services do we offer? Go to http://it.tu.edu Need help? Go to https://servicedesk.tu.edu, login with your campus network username and submit a service request! ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11AC Future Infrastructure
What is it you think is happening during output drops? -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers University of Michigan 734.763.6389 On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Wright, Don donald_wri...@brown.edu wrote: I would say take a close look at the 100M ports connected to your N or AC APs and check for output drops. We've seen this in some locations where we we're careful about refreshing with N AP's. It likely comes at peak times so if you're just graphing the in/out you will miss it. Don Wright Brown University On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Ian McDonald i...@st-andrews.ac.uk wrote: They certainly are using some strange math, my experience (and that of other institutions nearby) is that the vast majority of my N access points don't suffer from being connected to 100M poe switches, and in the places we have 1G to them, they generally don't use more than 100M. Thanks -- ian Sent from my phone, please excuse brevity and misspelling. From: Hanset, Philippe C Sent: 18/12/2013 19:33 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11AC Future Infrastructure And the WLAN industry also does strange math ;-) A lot of services are going to the Cloud, mostly using your pipe to the Internet. It seems that, progressively or even rapidly, the limiting factor is not Wi-Fi anymore but rather the pipe to the internet. 1 Gbps to each Wireless AP is a lot of bandwidth! and a lot of oversubscription all around (edge, distribution, core, WAN) Unless you plan to distribute UHDTV (8K TV) to your dorms, I wouldn't worry about getting more than 1 Gbps to each AP for a long time. Also most of 802.11ac APs are fine with 802.3af! Philippe Hanset www.eduroam.us On Dec 18, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: The WLAN industry is doing an absolutely horrible, almost shameful job of managing the message on cabling for 11ac, says I. Lee Badman Network Architect/Wireless TME ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 -Original Message- From: Turner, Ryan H [rhtur...@email.unc.edu] Received: Wednesday, 18 Dec 2013, 12:52 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11AC Future Infrastructure BTW… Before anyone jumps on me, I understand the purpose of the question. It’s great to know the best practices for the ‘what if’ situation. Ryan H Turner Senior Network Engineer The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599 +1 919 445 0113 Office +1 919 274 7926 Mobile From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Turner, Ryan H Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 12:47 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11AC Future Infrastructure Call me naïve, but I think 10 gig uplinks for ac WAPs is serious overkill. We have almost 4,500 switches across campus, most with 1 gig user uplinks, and the vast majority are perfectly fine with 1G (heck, we could swap a good number of those for 100 Meg, and they’d barely notice). These are switches with 48+ connected devices, all at 1 gig. So, for most access points that will be seeing far less users than a traditional edge switch with a one gig uplink, I don’t see the need to go crazy with the feed speed. I could see deploying 2 single gig links to the .ac access points, but not 10 gig. Exceptions to this ‘could’ be very dense classroom environments with a lot of access points (there are exceptions to everything). Ryan H Turner Senior Network Engineer The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599 +1 919 445 0113 Office +1 919 274 7926 Mobile From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Stewart, Joe Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 12:40 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11AC Future Infrastructure As this technology begins to be deployed is anyone out there planning ahead for wave two of this? I know it’s not going to happen for a while but I’m curious if there are folks in the process of new construction where you have the option to add the infrastructure now to support the 10Gbps. If so, has there been any documentation on what cable type would be recommended for this? (ex. CAT6A or CAT7). Thanks, Joe Stewart Network Specialist I Information Systems and Network Services Claremont McKenna College 325 E. 8th Street, Roberts South #12 Claremont, CA 91711 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Eduroam rollout- one more time
We have opted for door number 3, Lee. -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers University of Michigan 734.763.6389 On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: I know this comes up frequently, so forgive me. We’re at a different place than we were at last inquiry… Syracuse University has become an Eduroam school, and as we speak we have happy Eduroamers around the world. Woo Woo! At the same time, we have yet to roll out Eduroam on our own campus and are getting ready to in accordance to the Eduroam agreement. We’re trying to figure out the best model: Retire our own beloved 802.1x SSID, and use Eduroam in its place. This has no favor with any of us, including our senior IT managers and so is not gonna happen. (Though I value the opinions of others, not wanting to get into a debate on this point J ) Do a targeted rollout of Eduroam, in places where it is likely to be used by visitors- academic buildings, etc. (So far, I can’t find evidence of anyone coming to SU and asking for it). This model requires building a new WLAN group or two and pushing it out to probably 20ish buildings out of our 200+ buildings. Go the easy path, and push it the Eduroam SSID everywhere, as an additional WLAN, and live with the fact that it won’t get a lot of use in most places and puts management traffic in the air that isn’t generally going to be used. I can’t be the only one who has stood at this juncture and looked at the situation the same way. Wondering what others have done between #2 and #3, and what your level of satisfaction has been for whatever path you took. Regards, Lee Badman Syracuse University ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Eduroam rollout- one more time
Oh, and to answer your other question, this only just went into production, so I can't say how satisfied we are with it yet. -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers University of Michigan 734.763.6389 On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Daniel Eklund ekl...@umich.edu wrote: We have opted for door number 3, Lee. -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers University of Michigan 734.763.6389 On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: I know this comes up frequently, so forgive me. We’re at a different place than we were at last inquiry… Syracuse University has become an Eduroam school, and as we speak we have happy Eduroamers around the world. Woo Woo! At the same time, we have yet to roll out Eduroam on our own campus and are getting ready to in accordance to the Eduroam agreement. We’re trying to figure out the best model: Retire our own beloved 802.1x SSID, and use Eduroam in its place. This has no favor with any of us, including our senior IT managers and so is not gonna happen. (Though I value the opinions of others, not wanting to get into a debate on this point J ) Do a targeted rollout of Eduroam, in places where it is likely to be used by visitors- academic buildings, etc. (So far, I can’t find evidence of anyone coming to SU and asking for it). This model requires building a new WLAN group or two and pushing it out to probably 20ish buildings out of our 200+ buildings. Go the easy path, and push it the Eduroam SSID everywhere, as an additional WLAN, and live with the fact that it won’t get a lot of use in most places and puts management traffic in the air that isn’t generally going to be used. I can’t be the only one who has stood at this juncture and looked at the situation the same way. Wondering what others have done between #2 and #3, and what your level of satisfaction has been for whatever path you took. Regards, Lee Badman Syracuse University ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
WiFi Network Engineer Position at University of Michigan
The Network Engineering group at the University of Michigan has a new position open for a mid-level WiFi Engineer. Please see http://umjobs.org and search for position number 86223 in the keyword field. -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers University of Michigan 734.763.6389 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Boosting cell phone signal in residence hall
T-Mobile doesn't need it because they can already handle calls over WiFi -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers University of Michigan 734.763.6389 On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:41 PM, David Beyerle deb...@psu.edu wrote: All, At the risk of continuing to kick a dead horse, I'm trying to get my arms around the how Cisco would market this device to a cellular carrier. It appears to me that the device's uplink frequencies (1,920-1,980 MHz) are principally in the licensed PCS band, while the downlink frequencies (2,110-2,170 MHz) are in the licensed AWS band (including a portion of which in the as-yet unassigned AWS-3 band). Assuming split-band operation as is typical of cellular systems (e.g. 1920-1930 paired with 2110-2120), and using Lee's home market (Onondaga county, NY) as an example, it seems to me that this device would only be of utility to T-Mobile, by virtue of their (coincidental) holding of both the A-block PCS license (1930-1945 MHz) coupled with the C-block AWS license (2130-2135 MHz). Do others of you draw different conclusions? Thanks, Dave David Beyerle, P.E. Communications Engineer Penn State University 15K 141 West Beaver Bldg University Park PA 16802* *da...@psu.edu 814 863-9432 Frequencies supported 3GPP Band 1 BS Receive 1920-1980 MHz BS Transmit 2110-2170 MHz On 3/14/2013 11:36 AM, Lee H Badman wrote: Ordering Information The Cisco 3G Small Cell Module for Cisco Aironet is available for sale to service providers that have WCDMA, HSPA, and HSPA+ technology and spectrum assets in the 3G Band I (2100 MHz). For part numbers, refer to Table 2. from http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/modules/ps12859/ps12976/data_sheet_c78-726601.html more to it than the module... *Lee H. Badman* Network Architect/Wireless TME ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 -- *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [ WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Garret Peirce [ pei...@maine.edu] *Sent:* Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:34 AM *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Boosting cell phone signal in residence hall Anyone catch this? A 3G small cell submodule for the Cisco 36xx?? http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps12976/index.html On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Peter P Morrissey ppmor...@syr.eduwrote: In some cases we have been able to get the providers to install DAS. I would say it is worth asking at least, if you haven’t done so already. Pete Morrissey *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Sullivan, Don *Sent:* Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:05 PM *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Boosting cell phone signal in residence hall I realize this may be outside the scope of this listserv, but I was wondering if anybody had run into an issue where cell phone signal was very weak/no signal in one of their administrative buildings or resident halls and how it was handled to boost the signal. We are no longer installing land lines in the resident halls and we have new construction where there is going to be weak or no signal on the lower floors and I was wondering how others were handling it (as in cell phone boosters/repeaters, etc.). Just looking to see if what others have done when faced with this issue. Thanks. Don Sullivan Network Administrator | Office: 205.726.2111 | email: dsulli...@samford.edu [image: Description: su blue red] ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- Garry Peirce Network Architect Networkmaine, University of Maine System 1-207-561-3539 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. image/jpeg
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] New Cisco Wireless Gear - 5760WLC Cat3850
Yes, I know I'm a starry eyed dreamer, but if we don't talk about this it may never happen. I, for one, am not looking forward to the day when we have to somehow transition from 12,000 access points of one vendor to 12,000 from another and make the transition as seamless as possible. -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers University of Michigan 734.763.6389 On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Jeffrey Sessler j...@scrippscollege.eduwrote: It is highly unlikely that this will ever come to pass. Sure, you may get to the point where you could get very basic AP functionality cross-vendor, but there are so many vendor-specific custom features requiring support in both the AP and controller e.g. Cisco's clean air, that I doubt vendor A will spend time to reverse-engineer and support vendor B's technology. There is simply no money to be made from doing so and it's unlikely to result in a better customer experience. Jeff ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] New Cisco Wireless Gear - 5760WLC Cat3850
As I've said recently, I really wish that there was a standard that all APs would use and all controllers would use so that they could all talk together. I know this is probably unlikely to happen, but we have interoperable wired networks and I just wish the same for the wireless side. Maybe a universal controller is more realistic, something that understands how to talk to all types of APs. -- Daniel Eklund Network Planning Manager ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers University of Michigan 734.763.6389 On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Peter P Morrissey ppmor...@syr.edu wrote: My view regarding the 3850 is that anything that locks you into a vendor, and makes it more difficult to switch to a competitor is a bad thing for the consumer, and should be considered with your eyes wide open to the long term consequences. In my mind, one would have to make an extremely compelling business case to counter that tradeoff. Keep in mind that the Vendor’s job is to make “switching costs” as high as possible for the consumer. It is bad enough that we still have to purchase AP’s and controller’s from the same vendor. ** ** The 5700 looks like a great idea for those of us with large wireless networks. ** ** Pete Morrissey ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Luke Jenkins *Sent:* Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:18 PM *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] New Cisco Wireless Gear - 5760WLC Cat3850 ** ** At Cisco Live London today, Cisco announced two new WLCs: ** ** 5760 WLC - http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps12598/index.html ** ** and the Cat3850 Switch - http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps12686/index.html ** ** IOS XE for both of these (not AireOS) and the ability to do termination of CAPWAP on the switch with optional mobility tunnels back to a controller. The datasheet for the Cat3850 has some info on this new option. Could be situationally useful, but I'm not quite sold on the advantages vs. the current model for higher ed where many of us are using big central pools of real IPs and no NAT for our wireless users. Thoughts? ** ** -Luke ** ** -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Luke Jenkins Network Engineer Weber State University ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** ** ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Visitor access
We have a web page that students and faculty can use that allows them to create a limited number of IDs that are valid for up to 7 days. The IDs are then associated with their account and they agree to be held personally responsible for how their guests behave. -- Daniel Eklund Director, Network Engineering and Security 313.577.5558 - Original Message - We are having a increasing number of parents and prospective students who are visiting to tour the campus requesting access to our wireless network. I was wondering what other schools are doing to accommodate these requests. Thank you Bruce Entwistle Network Manager University of Redlands ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wifi Support Staff
I have 1400 Meru access points and 7 controllers. There is one person dedicated to supporting this, but he also receives support from the other network engineers assigned to the buildings for design, install and troubleshooting (5 others). I honestly could use two for the backend support. -- Daniel Eklund Director, Network Engineering Wayne State University 313.577.5558 - Original Message - Hi guys, Just as an inquiry I would like to know what kind of support staff other universities have for their Wi-Fi environment. Is there a formula that you use (i.e. X number of users = Y number of staff, or X number of access points = Y number of staff)? We have grown almost exponentially in the last couple of years (From 300 access points to 1000+ access points, 2000+ access points total planned within the next 12 months) and I’m curious as to the number of staff members dedicated to supporting the wifi (both from an engineering standpoint and from a helpdesk point of view) that other educational facilities have deemed necessary. Any input would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Brian D Williams Network Engineering IST – Georgia State University bwilli...@gsu.edu 404.413.4450 “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results” - Einstein ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] MERU wireless
Randy, We have about 1100 AP320s right now and are installing a few hundred more over the next month or two. We have been very happy with this system. There have been no major issues and everything has worked as advertised. There have been minor issues, as there are with every product, but they've been responsive in dealing with them. -- Daniel Eklund Director, Networking Wayne State University 313-577-5558 - Original Message - I just heard a pitch for MERU and it almost sounds to good. Is anyone running MERU and if so how do you like it and what problems have you run into ? Thanks. Randy Ethridge Network Engineer V Information Services Eastern Illinois University rlethri...@eiu.edu Proud to say I am EIU EIU THINKS GREEN: Before printing this e-mail think if it is necessary ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wifi and spectrometers?
We have ubiquitous Wifi coverage in both 2.4 and 5Ghz spectrum in all our science buildings and have had no complaints of interference with equipment. -- Daniel Eklund Director, Networking Wayne State University 313-577-5558 - Original Message - We haven't heard of any complaints or design constraints, though we've occasionally asked -- I don't know whether there are those specific kind of spectrometers, though, or the details. I'd be very interested in hearing about people's experiences in this area as well, as we have some large science buildings that we'll be putting more wireless in shortly. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:02 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wifi and spectrometers? We're about to take the campus wireless into some new areas and getting some concern voiced about possible negative impact on both noble gas and IR spectrometers. Before I start researching a defense, has anyone else already been down this road? Lee Badman ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Mount hidden or in plain view in dorms?
Our's are in plain sight and we have a problem with students unplugging the ethernet cable from them on a very regular basis. We are going to try moving them into dorm rooms (still in plain sight) so we're hoping that by doing this it will deter people from messing with them since we'll know who to blame. -- Daniel Eklund Director, Networking Wayne State University 313-577-5558 - Original Message - We've opted to place APs in plain sight. All new APs have a label attached that reads Damage to or theft of this unit results in a charge of $xxx to all residents. Since we just started that this year, I can't tell you yet how effective it will be, but seemed like a good idea. Scott Scott Lowe Vice President Chief Information Officer Information Technology Services Westminster College 501 Westminster Avenue Fulton, Missouri 65251 IT Help Desk: 573-592-5169 (V) 573-592-5289 (F) 573-592-6235 Twitter: @otherscottlowe IT will never ask for your password via email. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Macbooks with odd Airport MAC addresses
I've seen two unique logins with that MAC in the past month. -- Daniel Eklund Director, Networking Wayne State University 313-577-5558 Justin, Thank you for pointing out that most management systems (AirWave, etc) use the MAC address as a unique identifier - it is supposed to be a unique hardware address. I’ve seen indication of that MAC on our Airwave Management Platform at Emory and can deduce we had 3-4 unique visitors, mostly on our guest network, but no successful authentications on our WPA-Enterprise network. The first sighting was on 07/23/2010, there was a sighting on 09/01/2010, and the last time I saw that MAC (possibly two separate users) was on 09/16/2010. I do have two different email addresses for the last two sightings, but will probably not pursue this further unless we have more sightings. This doesn’t seem like a big issue here, but it is troubling if a manufacturer is putting out product with duplicate unique hardware identifiers (MAC addresses). - Stan Brooks - CWNA/CWSP Emory University University Technology Services 404.727.0226 AIM/Y!/Twitter: WLANstan MSN: wlans...@hotmail.com GoogleTalk: wlans...@gmail.com ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions
We provide free guest access, but not open access. Guests must be vouched for by a faculty or staff member and that person takes responsibility for the actions of the guest while they use the network. We have a simple online process that the faculty or staff member uses to create a temporary ID and password for their guest. They can create as many IDs as they need and the ID can be requested to have a lifetime up to 1 week. After that time the ID is deleted. -- Daniel Eklund Director, Networking Wayne State University 313-577-5558 - Tom Neiss tne...@uamail.albany.edu wrote: Are you providing free guest wireless access on your campus? How are you dealing with CALEA if you are? Do you use your edu address? Thanks, Thomas R. Neiss Director of ITS Telecommunications University at Albany 1400 Washington Ave Albany, NY 1 (518) 437-3803 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions
We don't provide telephony services over our IP network -- Daniel Eklund Director, Networking Wayne State University 313-577-5558 - Trent Fierro tr...@avendasys.com wrote: Out of curiosity regarding CALEA, do you need to provide law enforcement with a way to view where a user goes on your network while using wireless? Or do you just need to provide login details? I know that for telephony that you need to provide a way to tap a line, etc. but haven’t paid much attention to CALEA requirements recently. Trent Trent Fierro Dir of Marketing 408.748.0902 x116 www.avendasys.com http://twitter.com/Avenda_Systems Security without Boundaries From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Eklund Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 6:10 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Guest Wireless Questions We provide free guest access, but not open access. Guests must be vouched for by a faculty or staff member and that person takes responsibility for the actions of the guest while they use the network. We have a simple online process that the faculty or staff member uses to create a temporary ID and password for their guest. They can create as many IDs as they need and the ID can be requested to have a lifetime up to 1 week. After that time the ID is deleted. -- Daniel Eklund Director, Networking Wayne State University 313-577-5558 - Tom Neiss tne...@uamail.albany.edu wrote: Are you providing free guest wireless access on your campus? How are you dealing with CALEA if you are? Do you use your edu address? Thanks, Thomas R. Neiss Director of ITS Telecommunications University at Albany 1400 Washington Ave Albany, NY 1 (518) 437-3803 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Experiences with Meru
Richard, We have almost 900 Meru APs deployed and service a population of about 30,000 students. We do hear from people now and then about this issue and upgrading drivers is our first suggestion. -- Daniel Eklund Director, Networking Wayne State University 313-577-5558 - R. Smit r.s...@hva.nl wrote: Hello, I have a question for other Universities who are using Meru wireless 802.11n networks. We are in the process of doing a Proof of Concept on Meru’s technology of single cell architecture. We ran into a few issues and I was wondering how other universities are dealing with these kind of issues or maybe they didn’t experience any issues at all. We noticed that clients with older drivers were unable to connect to the Meru network but after updating the drivers it worked fine. For example Intel 3945ABG chipset needed the 12.x driver to connect. So the default driver in Microsoft Vista is out dated. We have about 40,000 students and they all have their own laptop. Does anyone had to deal with this kind of problems? And how did you manage it in a large environment? Does anyone experience that Meru is very demanding on client configuration and driver and hardware versions? Thanks. Regards, Richard Smit Hogeschool van Amsterdam University of Professional Education ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Seeking recommendation for wireless bridge product
Lih-Er, We have used the Proxim Tsunami Quickbridge product for some time now and are very happy with it. However, it's going to cost you at least twice what you have budgeted. - Original Message - From: Lih-Er Wey we...@msu.edu To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:54:41 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Seeking recommendation for wireless bridge product Seeking recommendation for wireless bridge product I need to bring network to a structure (2- story ) in a field from a building (about 1000 feet away, 7 -story ) . It does not need high bandwidth. I would like to hear any product recommendation fro m you. The budget range is under a $1000 for a pair of wireless bridge. I am more concern about the reliability and security sides of the product. By the way, does anyone have experience with NanoStation5 from Ubiquiti network? It is quite inexpensive ($160 a pair). Thanks! Lih-Er Wey Wireless Project, Network Management Academic Technology Services Michigan State University __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3924 (20090310) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Upgrade Approach (phased vs. overhaul)
We're in the midst of a phased upgrade from Proxim to Meru. We began about a year ago and have deployed 700 Meru AP311s across campus. We expect to install about another 400 or so over the next 6 months to complete the project. The focus of the initial installation was to service classrooms, libraries and research areas. We are not explicitly covering office areas as of yet, but I am getting pressure to do so. At the same time we have been replacing our edge infrastructure as part of our replacement cycle, so the timing was good. -- Daniel Eklund Director, Network Engineering Wayne State University Detroit, MI 48201 Phone: 313-577-5558 Fax: 313-577-5577 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Meru Networks
We have nearly 700 AP311s across our campus with at least another 400 going in over the next 6 months or so. We are using the MC5000s with the new accelerator modules. Overall, I'd say, the products have been stable and reliable. Currently there is an issue with the MC5000 chassis when it is fully loaded with these new blades, Meru is aware of the problem and looking for a solution. Also the current version of ezrf does not support the version of code on the controller that we are running, 3.6-111. This is a minor issue since it doesn't affect the actual operation of the network. We expect this to be resolved in the next week or so. On a more positive note, we have been able to get the latest version of Airwave to recognize the MC5000s and the APs attached to them, so we are getting the information we really like from there. -- Daniel Eklund Director, Network Engineering Wayne State University Detroit, MI 48201 Phone: 313-577-5558 Fax: 313-577-5577 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Meru Networks user group
Email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] text of the message should read: SUB MERU Your Name -- Daniel Eklund Director, Network Engineering Wayne State University Detroit, MI 48201 Phone: 313-577-5558 Fax: 313-577-5577 From: Heller, Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:30:56 -0400 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Meru Networks user group Dan, How do we enroll? Thank you, Josh Heller Sr. Network Analyst Information Technology Kutztown University 610.683.4930 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Meru captive portal performance
Ha, We currently are migrating to Meru from Bluesocket. As far as performance goes I can give you this information from what we have seen so far. 450 concurrent users on one controller (portal) with no performance issues. We're still growing, but adding controllers at the same time. By comparison we had 5 Bluesockets, mostly the old 1000 series. This doesn't directly answer your question, but it's what I know right now. WRT, the guest login code I said I would forward, I'm in the process of moving and haven't had a spare 30 minutes to finish cleaning it up. Should be able to get to it tomorrow. -- Daniel Eklund Director, Network Engineering Wayne State University Detroit, MI 48201 Phone: 313-577-5558 Fax: 313-577-5577 From: Ha Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:24:23 +0200 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Meru captive portal performance Hello to all, We are in the process of evaluating Meru products and would highly appreciate if someone can share his/her experience concerning the performance of the captive portal service on Meru controllers: - Number of simultaneous authentications per second the portal can sustain. What happen when all (~100) students in a classroom try to login in the same time ? - Max number of authenticated users. How does Meru portal perform in comparision with popular NoCat-style portal ? Regards, Ha Nguyen University of Lausanne ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n
Doug Payne wrote: I wonder if you'll have more issues now that Aruba has acquired AirWave? http://www.arubanetworks.com/company/news/release.php?id=56 Hopefully not, but in 2 years or so I won't have a multivendor wireless network, so it may not matter if Meru can improve their management software in that time. OTOH, I would seriously consider staying with AirWave if the product remains useful and vendor neutral because I do like it. -- Daniel Eklund Director, Network Engineering Wayne State University Detroit, MI 48201 Phone: 313-577-5558 Fax: 313-577-5577 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Purchased AirWave
Just yesterday I received a call from our sales team to discuss this move. Of course, the party line is that this will only be good for the product, and that this will allow them more resources to develop the product. However, there was also the implication that the product would be taken down the path of implementing features of Aruba¹s MMS. I would expect that within 2 or 3 years Airwave, as a distinct product, will disappear. -- Daniel Eklund Director, Network Engineering Wayne State University Detroit, MI 48201 Phone: 313-577-5558 Fax: 313-577-5577 From: Lee H Badman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] What about WLAN in the Dorms?
On Mar 14, 2007, at 2:39 PM, Philippe Hanset wrote: -Destruction/disappearance of APs We have one dorm that is 100% covered by 85 Proxim AP-4000s. They were installed above the ceiling in all locations because the construction manager would not allow them to be exposed for aesthetic reasons. I felt that this would compromise the actual function, but since they are so densely placed it seems to be OK. None have disappeared for this reason. I will say though, while I knock on wood, that we have installed APs within relatively easy reach in unlocked classroom spaces and have not had any issue with theft. -Interferences by cordeless phones None -Interference from rogue APs (innocent or voluntary) There are a total of 2 rogue APs identified by Airwave in this dorm of 900 beds. No interference that I can see. -Do you do use vendors that provide a Wi-Fi defense (Airtight, Airmagnet, Built-in Meru disassociation) Maybe someday, but not yet. -If you have a wired port for every student, is wireless becoming a replacement or is it a complement We do provide wired for every bed. However, the desire to be wireless is growing. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] New H-Pol sector antennas for 900Mhz
John, This message is pure advertisement, which is clearly not an acceptable use of this forum. From the Constituent Group Participation Guidelines Endorsements Endorsements are acceptable if made in the context of a request for information or sharing of an experience. When the endorsement comes from a representative of a corporate member, any mention of company products or services should be in the context of a reasonable answer to a question posed by another subscriber and should not be blatantly commercial; such postings should include the identifying signature of the person posting the message. Daniel Eklund Director, Network Engineering Wayne State University Detroit, MI 48201 Phone: 313-577-5558 Fax: 313-577-5577 On Oct 26, 2006, at 12:44 PM, SuperPass wrote: SuperPass has applied its antenna patent technologies to some of their newly developed 900Mhz H-Pol sectoral panel antennas as below: ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http:// www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Linksys APs as enterprise solution
On Sep 10, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Philippe Hanset wrote: Putting all the APs in the same L2 domain has been done before, and I would only recommend it for the smallest deployments. Broadcast traffic, on the wireless and the wireline side, will absolutely ruin performance, as you pointed out, can cause AP issues. As you pointed out, the L3 roaming concern prevents you from segmenting the APs as you wish. Small domain? We have about 950 AP in one subnet with sometimes 3000 concurrent users and it works great. We did take some measures to prevent unwanted broadcast traffic though. Philippe, What specific things have you done to reduce broadcasts. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11g question
On Wednesday, December 3, 2003, at 09:41 AM, Matt Ashfield (UNB) wrote: Hi All, I was hoping someone could clear something up. When an 802.11g Access Point (for example, Avaya) has an 802.11b client talking to it, does that effectively revert the access point from g to a b because of the b client? Correct. Lowest common denominator is the rule. -- Daniel Eklund Ph: 313.577.5558 Director, Network Engineering Fx: 313.577.5577 Network ServicesCell: 313.468.2070 Wayne State University Detroit, MI 48202 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/cg/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.1x in WLAN design
At Wayne State in Detroit we are using 802.11b and have started deploying b/g. We use open access points on a separate VLAN with a Bluesocket gateway on the back-end. Our hope is that by leaving the access points as open as possible that we will avoid client issues. So far, so good. Typically we install the Proxim/Avaya access points. We have trialed the Vivato product and are comparing the results to standard access points. Our web page is at http://support.wayne.edu/wireless ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/cg/.
