RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi in the Elevator Car

2019-11-05 Thread Benedick, Jason
We used a similar coax to Ethernet converter for the IP camera in our elevators 
and they work very well.

Our building is 6 stories and we don't target our elevators for WiFi, but we do 
have a WAP in the lobby of each floor and the bleed through seems to cover the 
elevators fairly well.

One thing I would do is make sure to scale back the power of the WAPs, you 
wouldn't want a bunch of clients near the elevators associating with the 
elevator WAP that only has a 10 or 100 Mbps connection back to the switch.

Thanks,
Jason R. Benedick
IT Generalist
Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology
Office: (717) 391-6957 Cell: (717) 587-9065

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Hmmm... Good to know.  The bldg I am working on is about 5 floors if I remember 
right.  Probably too long for ethernet.  I'm thinking about this solution 
recommended by Luke Jenkins:

http://www.veracityglobal.com/products/ethernet-over-coax-devices/highwire.aspx

It says:  "Because coaxial cable will coil and bend properly, unlike Cat 5 
cable, HIGHWIRE provides an ideal means to provide network access to elevator 
carriages, for VoIP, security, lift panel and other devices."


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I have designed and deployed in car WiFi for a few folks - one we had a Cat 5 
cable that was part of the traveler cable (so certified from a movement 
perspective) and the other we had a pair that I used a DSL converter on to get 
a few MB of traffic for the AP.

These were all 10+ story buildings.

The AP channel was fixed and discrete from the ones used on each floor - each 
car in the bank used the same channel and power setup - rarely did the cars 
stay on the same floor except in the late evening - Signal was basically 
blocked in the shaft anyway other than when the doors opened.

Results were pretty good for the times and good enough to keep a VoIP call 
going in optimal situations (excluding client generated issues)

We looked at P2P from the top of the shaft, but then I visited the top of one 
of the shafts and realized the dust and grease and access issues made it a 
non-starter.



On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 2:00 PM Michael Cole 
mailto:mc...@clarku.edu>> wrote:
You'd think this would be pretty straight forward, but with the codes for 
elevators and life safety you might not be able to get a cable in the wiring 
bundle for the car. Or if you can, will the cable take the constant bending and 
unbending...  the Aruba airheads talked about 2 different options, an access 
point in the car, and one on the top of the elevator shaft with a directional 
antenna.

https://community.arubanetworks.com/t5/Wireless-Access/Coverage-in-elevator-shaft/td-p/196269

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Hello,

Has anyone designed Wi-Fi specifically to work in the elevator car itself?  
Willing to share your experience?

Thanks,

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RE: Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-22 Thread Benedick, Jason
I’d install it, you can always disable SSIDs in those areas to prevent people 
from using it, but I’d bet there will be something that will require it sooner 
rather than later.

Thanks,
Jason R. Benedick
IT Generalist
Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology
Office: (717) 391-6957 Cell: (717) 587-9065

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Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

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William and Mary
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] RF Sensitivity

2017-10-17 Thread Benedick, Jason
How do you accommodate? Do you turn off WiFi in areas of that building or do 
you just avoid placing WAPs directly in the rooms he teaches in? Are his areas 
still fully covered with WiFi with adjacent WAPs?

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From: "Gogan, James Patrick" 
Sent: Oct 17, 2017 17:08
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] RF Sensitivity

We turn over any and all - be it from students, faculty or staff - questions or 
requests on this issue to our campus' Environment, Health and Safety division; 
we're not the health-risk experts, they are.

They've published the following online help doc re: this issue:  
https://ehs.unc.edu/radiation/wi-fi/.
In all the years we've had campus wi-fi, there's only been one case for which 
EHS requested that we accommodate a faculty member with the placement of APs in 
his building.

-- Jim Gogan / ITS Comm Tech / UNC-Chapel Hill

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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] RF Sensitivity

Curious to how other universities handle complaints from parents, students, 
staff, or faculty asking for wireless to be turned off in their dorm room, 
workspace, etc.?

Studies that you've used to refute these claims would be helpful!

Thanks in advance!

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Outdoor PoE injectors

2017-05-03 Thread Benedick, Jason
Anybody have any suggestions for outdoor PoE injectors?

We had a PoE injector that was in a metal weather resistant box on a pole in a 
parking lot with a wireless WAP and camera on it go bad. This PoE injector is a 
Versa Technology VX-Pi1000ATM it was installed by the company that installed 
the camera system in our one parking lot. So now I need a replacement. I could 
go out and purchase another VX-Pi1000ATM but though I'd ask you guys if there's 
anything better I should be looking at.

Just FYI I have a standard 110 receptacle inside of the box on the pole so 
power isn't an issue.
Also, this power injector need to be able to provide power without network 
plugged into it. I've had experience with some injectors that won't put power 
out the output side without network plugged into the input side.

Thanks,
Jason R. Benedick
IT Generalist
Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology
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Shared iPads

2017-04-17 Thread Benedick, Jason
How do you deal with shared iPads for students authenticating to the WiFi 
network? We currently use an 802.1x enabled SSID using RADIUS back to our 
Microsoft NPS server.

My initial thought is to create an AD account for each iPad, but if we start 
getting a lot of them I can see that becoming very tedious managing usernames 
and passwords for each device.

Thanks,
Jason R. Benedick
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Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology
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RE: Zigbee products

2016-02-11 Thread Benedick, Jason
They both live in the 2.4GHz space and they both share frequencies so it is 
definitely possible it could interfere with any 2.4GHz clients especially in a 
high density environment. I don’t have any firsthand experience with this the 
only place I run Zigbee is at home with 1 WAP and a few Zigbee lights. I’m not 
aware of any students trying to run Zigbee in our dorms but it’s definitely 
possible.

I did a quick Google search and found this interesting PDF:
http://www.mobiusconsulting.com/papers/ZigBeeandWiFiInterference.pdf

Thanks,
Jason R. Benedick
IT Generalist
Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology
Office: (717) 391-6957 Cell: (717) 587-9065

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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Zigbee products

Has anyone had any issues with Zigbee products interfering with your wireless 
network?  Everything I read tells me it should not, but I want to throw it out 
here!



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RE: Internet Service Provider Options

2015-07-16 Thread Benedick, Jason
Does he have any contacts with the airport's IT group? Find out what 
provider(s) the airport uses and contact them to see if they'd be willing to 
provide them with service or see if they can figure out a way to buy internet 
directly from the airport. Another option would be checking to see if there are 
any WISPs that operate in the area that he could get service from.

Thanks,
Jason R. Benedick
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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Internet Service Provider Options

A friend of mine has a small business housed within a small airport. They 
currently have a T1 transport that they've outgrown. I was wondering if anyone 
has any recommendations on other options within Southern California that 
wouldn't cost an arm and a leg. They only have about 5 computers and 5 VOIP 
phones but 3Mbps is hard to deal with when large files are being 
downloaded/uploaded simultaneously. They've tried calling to get DSL and Cable 
and they are striking out on all site surveys through Verizon and Time Warner.

Thanks,

Joe Stewart
Network Specialist II
Claremont McKenna College
325 E. 8th Street
Roberts South # 12
Claremont, CA 91711

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Dorms

2014-10-16 Thread Benedick, Jason
That would work if the student plugs into one of the LAN switch ports on the 
wireless router (when they do a lot of times that causes problems with rogue 
DHCP servers), but we more often see them plugging it into the internet port so 
we only see 1 MAC/IP address.

This also wouldn’t solve the slew of broadcasting WiFi devices we’re seeing 
this year such as Rokus, Chromecasts, printers, gaming headsets, etc.

Thanks,
Jason R. Benedick
IT Generalist
Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology
Office: (717) 391-6957 Cell: (717) 587-9065

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Justin Pederson
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:27 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Dorms

From a technical standpoint, why not just use port security on you wired 
networks to only allow 1 MAC address at a time. There should be no rouge APs 
and the students could still use the wireless and wired networks. I have been 
rolling this around in my head for a little while now. The only thing you 
should have to cover is cellular tethering, but from my experience, most of 
these devices don't have much power behind the radio.

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Ian McDonald 
i...@st-andrews.ac.ukmailto:i...@st-andrews.ac.uk wrote:
Breach of your written policy prohibiting such things isn’t a disciplinary 
matter? And can’t be fixed with your disciplinary system?

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Sent: 16 October 2014 16:11
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Dorms

Good morning.

Let me say first off, we’re nearly a complete Cisco shop other than our 
Firewalls right now.  We are running 3 – Cisco 5508 Wireless Lan Controllers 
and Cisco WCS.

The AP’s in the Dorm’s and Greek houses are all 1142N AP’s and have been spaced 
accordingly by Cisco and by us during the introduction of wireless in the 
Dorms, Greeks and Single housing.

We are having a heck of a time with all the interference that the students 
bring with them making our wireless nearly unusable.  I know this topic has 
come up in the past, but this year is one of the worst we’ve seen, and the 
students are getting restless.

We have the ability to quarantine rogue Wireless clients, however according to 
a recent Court case against a large Hotel Chain, it was decided that on an open 
free wireless spectrum, we would be breaking the law in jamming it.

How have you addressed this issue?  I’m about ready to ask upper management to 
remove the AP’s in all the Dorm buildings and let the students bring their own 
AP’s if they want wireless.   Has anyone resorted to this?

Thanks for your input
Shayne



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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Dorms

2014-10-16 Thread Benedick, Jason
That’s a good one. I actually never thought about that.

Thanks,
Jason R. Benedick
IT Generalist
Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology
Office: (717) 391-6957 Cell: (717) 587-9065

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Vlade Ristevski
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:37 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Dorms

Also forgot to mention that you can look at TTL in the IP packets as an 
indicator of a NAT router. Routers are required to decrement the TTL so that's 
another possible method of detection.

On 10/16/2014 11:40 AM, Hunter Fuller wrote:

If the user connects a home gateway box (or anything else doing PAT) then the 
university equipment will only see one MAC and one IP, unfortunately :(
On Oct 16, 2014 10:36 AM, Justin Pederson 
justinpeder...@caspercollege.edumailto:justinpeder...@caspercollege.edu 
wrote:
From a technical standpoint, why not just use port security on you wired 
networks to only allow 1 MAC address at a time. There should be no rouge APs 
and the students could still use the wireless and wired networks. I have been 
rolling this around in my head for a little while now. The only thing you 
should have to cover is cellular tethering, but from my experience, most of 
these devices don't have much power behind the radio.

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Ian McDonald 
i...@st-andrews.ac.ukmailto:i...@st-andrews.ac.uk wrote:
Breach of your written policy prohibiting such things isn’t a disciplinary 
matter? And can’t be fixed with your disciplinary system?

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
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 On Behalf Of T. Shayne Ghere
Sent: 16 October 2014 16:11
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Dorms

Good morning.

Let me say first off, we’re nearly a complete Cisco shop other than our 
Firewalls right now.  We are running 3 – Cisco 5508 Wireless Lan Controllers 
and Cisco WCS.

The AP’s in the Dorm’s and Greek houses are all 1142N AP’s and have been spaced 
accordingly by Cisco and by us during the introduction of wireless in the 
Dorms, Greeks and Single housing.

We are having a heck of a time with all the interference that the students 
bring with them making our wireless nearly unusable.  I know this topic has 
come up in the past, but this year is one of the worst we’ve seen, and the 
students are getting restless.

We have the ability to quarantine rogue Wireless clients, however according to 
a recent Court case against a large Hotel Chain, it was decided that on an open 
free wireless spectrum, we would be breaking the law in jamming it.

How have you addressed this issue?  I’m about ready to ask upper management to 
remove the AP’s in all the Dorm buildings and let the students bring their own 
AP’s if they want wireless.   Has anyone resorted to this?

Thanks for your input
Shayne



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