Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] WLAN stress test uncovers802.11performance problems

2008-02-18 Thread tonylist
Kurt This is a good point, the CPEs are all sending a signal back to the AP at random times but as you scale more are hitting at the same time which can over load the receivers on some AP radios. When you lower the power on the units that are closer this reduces the total power levels the radio is

Re: [WISPA] pcb Ask Tony Morella

2008-02-18 Thread tonylist
We don't use them that much anymore in the new product lines but we do have stock they are .25 each less than 100 and 20 each with 100+. You can call and talk to one of our sales reps to order just reference part number MF-SLAD250ADH. Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireles

Re: [WISPA] MT tools

2008-02-18 Thread Travis Johnson
I have already emailed Mikrotik a week ago, and opened a new thread on their forum. They should at least get the idea of what I need and develop a test that is specific to their wireless. I do NOT want this to turn into a year long project. Travis Tom DeReggi wrote: Butch, You have misu

Re: [WISPA] pcb

2008-02-18 Thread John Valenti
Tom, One thing I did when I was building StarOS radios was use one mounting screw per board. Partly I was doing that because I thought the board should be grounded to the case, but it also would have helped if the glue failed on the plastic standoffs. Also, I'm not sure what the bad effects

Re: [WISPA] pcb Ask Tony Morella

2008-02-18 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Question was. Do they last? In the heat, in the cold?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > We don't use them that much anymore in the new product lines but we do have > stock they are .25 each less than 100 and 20 each with 100+. You can call > and talk to one of our sales reps to order just reference p

Re: [WISPA] pcb Ask Tony Morella

2008-02-18 Thread George Rogato
I've used them for a few years now and can't recall seeing any of the larger sized bases come unglued from the enclosure. I use these everywhere, all I use is boards and rootennas. The ones that have failed are the skinnier small based ones. I've seen that when it got too cold inside a nema enc

Re: [WISPA] pcb

2008-02-18 Thread George Rogato
One nice thing about the new 4 ports in the enclosure, they use the metal standoffs we are suposed to be using, so it's grounded like you said in various spots on the board. John Valenti wrote: > Tom, > > One thing I did when I was building StarOS radios was use one > mounting screw per boa

Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] PCQ Question

2008-02-18 Thread Sam Tetherow
Well, I feel like an idiot. The Internal and External interfaces were labeled incorrectly (or the cables were plugged in the wrong way, take your pick). I now have it working as expected the setup below does work. Not sure why it was exhibiting the behavior it was, but I didn't spend the time

[WISPA] Small generators - cheap or inexpensive?

2008-02-18 Thread John Valenti
I was looking around for a method to keep at least my backbone running during an extended power outage. (we have had ice storms take out power for 4 - 7 days). It seemed like the small generators might be a solution, the Honda/ etc name brand ones seem to be ~$600 for 1000 watts. And I found

Re: [WISPA] pcb

2008-02-18 Thread George Rogato
Mike Hammett wrote: > In the RooTenna or in the DCE? > In their new enclosure. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] pcb

2008-02-18 Thread Mike Hammett
In the RooTenna or in the DCE? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] pcb > One nice thing abou

Re: [WISPA] Small generators - cheap or inexpensive?

2008-02-18 Thread Tim Wolfe
John, We have a unit that I paid about $300 for from Tractor Supply. It is made by Champion Tools and has 3500 watts continuous with a 4000 watt surge capacity. It has a LOT more than 150 hours on it without a bit of problems. They key in my mind and from talking to others is keeping it properl

Re: [WISPA] Small generators - cheap or inexpensive?

2008-02-18 Thread shoemakerp
If you are powering anything but a rectifier to charge batteries, look for a generator with inverter technology such as the honda EU series. Most portable generators don't have the voltage or frequency regulation stability to keep UPSes or sensitive electronics running. Inverter generators produ

Re: [WISPA] Small generators - cheap or inexpensive?

2008-02-18 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
I have used 10 cents per watt as a good value for manual start, small generator. 15 cents per watt for larger units with electric start. (10 kW and larger) 20 cents per watt for larger units with automatic start (new without transfer switch). 25 cents to 30 cents per watt for larger units with au

Re: [WISPA] Small generators - cheap or inexpensive?

2008-02-18 Thread Tim Kerns
John, We had to run for over a month on generator at the end of last year. (long story but the place where we contract for one of our towers defaulted on their loan and the bank took over it took over a month and a break in to get the power restored). My point was we used one of the 1000 wa

Re: [WISPA] Small generators - cheap or inexpensive?

2008-02-18 Thread D. Ryan Spott
You probably want to finance something like the Yamaha or Honda 1000 to 3000 series "i" generators. They run on an inverter so they can purr at variable RPMS (saving you gas) while providing enough power to your backhauls. The 1000 series fit in the trunk of your car, are darn near silent an

Re: [WISPA] Small generators - cheap or inexpensive?

2008-02-18 Thread Eric Rogers
We had a similar experience. We ran our site for 5 months on a combination of batteries and generators. I second the Honda EU and/or Yamaha. They are inverter based and do make a better sine wave, or cleaner power. I also noticed we could run our site 8 hrs on a tank of 2.5 gallons on the H

Re: [WISPA] Small generators - cheap or inexpensive?

2008-02-18 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I have a pull start Generac unit. It's a 5kw (6500 surge). I bought it from a guy that bought it for the y2k thing then never used it. I've only had the system on it once so far and it worked fine. I'll not buy another pull start 10 horse motor though. It's hard to start after sitting for a

Re: [WISPA] Small generators - cheap or inexpensive?

2008-02-18 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net
The LP or Natural Gas is the way to go. Normally, 100 lbs tanks are simple and cheap, here around 60 bucks delivered. It will run a generate for a good number of hours. A customer put in a 15k auto gen found it on e-bay delivered for 2500 bucks! Ran his NOC twice for 5-6 days each. Has a 250 t

Re: [WISPA] Small generators - cheap or inexpensive?

2008-02-18 Thread George Rogato
I remember coming across this gas generator last year: http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=539 There is cheaper ones but they also include the automatic transfer switch which is usually a big expense it self. Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net wrote: > Th