Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread Rick Harnish
http://www.superpass.com/SPD-GSH4T-J6T.html#V_plane -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Rogers Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors Has anyone used any

Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread Eric Rogers
That is almost exactly what I want... Do they make it polar opposite? Like 2.4 V and 5.8 H? Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread chris cooper
If you call John at superpass he may be willing to build one custom for you. Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Rogers Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual

Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Are these good antennas that we can compare to MTI, Tiltek, etc or the generic quality of PacWireless, etc? I would like to have a 900 hpol and 5.8 vpol if it's a good antenna to save space! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you

Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread Andy Trimmell
I would also like to know the quality. Good question Josh. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors Are these

Re: [WISPA] Who makes this Dual-Pol 5.8GHz 18dBi Panel?

2009-11-04 Thread RickG
That would be a Trango 5800 series unit. http://www.trangobroadband.com/wireless-products/multipoint-broadband-access/Access5830-System.aspx The better question is it an AP or CPE? The only way to tell is to log into it. -RickG On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Jayson Baker

Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread RickG
Rick, Have you used these? If so, how well do they work? -RickG On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: http://www.superpass.com/SPD-GSH4T-J6T.html#V_plane -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread Rick Harnish
We used some a few years ago for a vWISP on his original tower install. Over time, he moved to dedicated backhauls in place of the 5.8 portion of the sectors. I can't remember how well they worked to tell the truth as I was not intimately involved in any installs off of the 5.8 portion. Sorry

Re: [WISPA] Who makes this Dual-Pol 5.8GHz 18dBi Panel?

2009-11-04 Thread Mike Goicoechea
Rick, I think he is asking on just the antennas themselves. I do not believe trango manufactured the antenna element and enclosure. A customer of ours has a closet full of damaged Trango radios that were well out of warrantee (not at all bashing trango, static and surge happens.). We have

Re: [WISPA] Who makes this Dual-Pol 5.8GHz 18dBi Panel?

2009-11-04 Thread Jayson Baker
Right. These aren't/weren't Trango. We bought just the antenna itself, and put MikroTik inside it. On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Mike Goicoechea m...@cielosystems.netwrote: Rick, I think he is asking on just the antennas themselves. I do not believe trango manufactured the antenna

Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread Mike Goicoechea
We have tested different types and found with the dual pol Sectors that Radiowaves makes an excellent antenna. They offer 2.4v and 5.8h or 2.4h and 5.8v. They offer 60 or 90 degree. We have used 3 90s for 360 coverage on a tower with great results. If you need further information feel free to hit

[WISPA] New link help

2009-11-04 Thread Mike
I just put up a new repeater site today. I am using MT for the P2P. I aligned the dishes by eyeball and a compass bearing, and think I'm close. The signal at both ends is -71 dBm, but am expecting better. I am going to wag one or the other (or both) dishes, but wondered where to start.

Re: [WISPA] New link help

2009-11-04 Thread Travis Johnson
What is the distance of the link? What antennas? What wireless cards? Travis Microserv Mike wrote: I just put up a new repeater site today. I am using MT for the P2P. I aligned the dishes by eyeball and a compass bearing, and think I'm close. The signal at both ends is -71 dBm, but am

Re: [WISPA] New link help

2009-11-04 Thread Randy Cosby
Are you passing traffic over the link yet? CCQ numbers are very inaccurate until traffic is going through. They usually improve. Mike wrote: I just put up a new repeater site today. I am using MT for the P2P. I aligned the dishes by eyeball and a compass bearing, and think I'm close.

Re: [WISPA] New link help

2009-11-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Ignore noise floor/CCQ on Atheros cards. In every place I have tested, the Atheros card will say -105 to -95 noise floor but the Canopy unit will say -95 to -83. Never seen a higher noise floor then -95 on an Atheros card. Is this 2.4 or 5.8? Are you seeing -71 both ways? Josh Luthman Office:

Re: [WISPA] New link help

2009-11-04 Thread Mike
That helps. No, it is not passing traffic. I'll generate some. Thanks. Mike At 12:49 PM 11/4/2009, you wrote: Are you passing traffic over the link yet? CCQ numbers are very inaccurate until traffic is going through. They usually improve. Mike wrote: I just put up a new repeater site

Re: [WISPA] New link help

2009-11-04 Thread Mike
10.6 miles. 5.8. I'm looking for a -65 dBm Rx on the link. It's about 6 dB off. Fresnel zone is clear p2p. Each can see a flashing beacon on top of the other. What I want to know which one to wag first, or flip a coin? Mike At 12:46 PM 11/4/2009, you wrote: What is the distance of the

Re: [WISPA] New link help

2009-11-04 Thread Mike
5.8. Yes, -71 each way. Most 5.8 noise here is P2P, but is low. Which one shall I wag Josh? I'm thinking the higher side, which is actually easier to access. If I can tweak without a bucket truck I'll save some expense. Mike At 12:51 PM 11/4/2009, you wrote: Ignore noise floor/CCQ on

Re: [WISPA] Who makes this Dual-Pol 5.8GHz 18dBi Panel?

2009-11-04 Thread Chuck Hogg
I had those antennas sourced from a place in China. We couldn't get the mounting to work right in our situation for MikroTik. I will try to find the source, but something makes me say Kenbotong? Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com

Re: [WISPA] New link help

2009-11-04 Thread Josh Luthman
If it's -71 both ways my guess is they're right on. 6db loss is kind of curious though. Does it fluctuate at all? What kind of antennas? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,

Re: [WISPA] New link help

2009-11-04 Thread Chuck Hogg
If that's the case, I would go ahead and do that one first. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, November

Re: [WISPA] New link help

2009-11-04 Thread Chuck Hogg
-71 on a 10 Mile link is kind of high for say R52H/23dB antenna...What type of radios are you using? We have one 13 miles that is sitting at -57 with R52N/23dB antennas. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread Eric Rogers
Nice antenna, but it is $1300 list. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Goicoechea Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:29 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors We have tested

Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread Eric Rogers
But it is exactly what I am looking for... SEC-2V-5H-90 Bummer... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Rogers Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

Re: [WISPA] Who makes this Dual-Pol 5.8GHz 18dBi Panel?

2009-11-04 Thread Kevin Neal
Trango began life as Sunstream, they changed names way back. -Kevin On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The back looks a little different for a Trango but otherwise it looks identical.  I think Sunstream made the antennas for them a long time ago,

Re: [WISPA] Dual Band Sectors

2009-11-04 Thread Brad Belton
While we've never used this particular RadioWaves antenna I do know you get what you pay for. I would imagine street price for this antenna would be between $900 - $1000. Considering what some towers charge per antenna the ROI for this antenna could be pretty quick! Best, Brad

Re: [WISPA] Who makes this Dual-Pol 5.8GHz 18dBi Panel?

2009-11-04 Thread Gino Villarini
Iirc Those were an European knock off of the trango ap antenna enclosure Similar to trango but not an exact copy Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Nov 4, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: We have a couple of these, that I think we bought from Titan

Re: [WISPA] New link help

2009-11-04 Thread Mike
10.6 miles. 23dBi antennas at both ends. Low power radio. 17 dB or lower. I know one end is out; has to be. I just thought the numbers might be obvious to someone. Mike At 01:29 PM 11/4/2009, you wrote: -71 on a 10 Mile link is kind of high for say R52H/23dB antenna...What type of radios

[WISPA] Frustrating connectivity issues.

2009-11-04 Thread Mark McElvy
Recently I posted an issue with a new customer that had a great signal but poor throughput. A lot of people sais multipath. Well now I have more data and another customer seeing the same thing. 1. If you get connected to an RDP session it stays connected. 2. If you do a constant

Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Frustrating connectivity issues.

2009-11-04 Thread Josh Luthman
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Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Frustrating connectivity issues.

2009-11-04 Thread Mark McElvy
with same result. These are Tranzeo CPQ's as clients and MT AP/RB532/XR-2/120 16db HPol. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20091104

Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Frustrating connectivity issues.

2009-11-04 Thread Jason Hensley
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