Re: [WISPA] Maximum sector power?

2010-06-24 Thread Stuart Pierce
How about the age old, if your AP talks to one client at a time, then it is a ptp system. Much more so now with scheduling and UBNT's AirMax. I'm still on the talk about a 120* or less allows you to increase beyond 36 on each end. The talk was coming from the FCC a few years back from people

Re: [WISPA] Maximum sector power?

2010-06-24 Thread Francois Menard
Or you can be legit in Canada, and go for 3.65 GHz and get up to 57 dBM legally in rural areas ;) Courtesy of the guy that changed the rules for 3.65 in Canada and is looking for the US to do the same... F. On 2010-06-23, at 5:41 PM, Fred R. Goldstein wrote: I'm just a little confused about

Re: [WISPA] Maximum sector power?

2010-06-24 Thread Stuart Pierce
I see negligible difference in signal strength anyway between 20 and 27. -- Original Message -- From: Francois Menard fmen...@xittel.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:03:59 -0400 Or you can be legit in Canada,

Re: [WISPA] Wierd StarOS/OLSR - Ubiquity RocketM5 bridge - Cisco issue

2010-06-24 Thread Jayson Baker
I didn't quite follow all of that, it must be too early. But I can tell you we have 4 of the PtP UBNT links using their M-series. 3 of those OSPF fine. The other won't OSPF for the life of me. All same config and firmware on all units. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:38 AM, Scott Lambert

Re: [WISPA] Maximum sector power?

2010-06-24 Thread Dennis Burgess
Now, do this. Take a Mikrotik, set the transmitting antenna to A, and put your smaller sector up, then put on the B connector the largest sector you can find. :) That work? --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies,

Re: [WISPA] Maximum sector power?

2010-06-24 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
FYI. Please make sure that you are running the most recent version 5.2 on the M series... Older firmware had known issues in setting up the output power. Faisal On Jun 24, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote: I see negligible difference in signal strength anyway

Re: [WISPA] Wierd StarOS/OLSR - Ubiquity RocketM5 bridge - Cisco issue

2010-06-24 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Make sure you are running the most recent version of 5.2 firmware.also you need to be running then in AP-WDS and CPE-WDS mode. Faisal On Jun 24, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I didn't quite follow all of that, it must be too early. But I can tell you we

Re: [WISPA] Wierd StarOS/OLSR - Ubiquity RocketM5 bridge - Cisco issue

2010-06-24 Thread Jayson Baker
I can't comment on the OP, but I can tell you that we are. OSPF talks, but never goes Full and exchanges routes. Latest FW on both ends. Like I said, same exact config as the other links which work perfect. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Make sure

Re: [WISPA] Maximum sector power?

2010-06-24 Thread Jeremie Chism
We had a discussion about this on the ubnt board. I have a pair of nanobridge M units. No difference was shown with an increase or decrease in power. I did notice at a certain point that after a day the units would completely stop transmitting. A reboot would fix it. Sent from my iPhone On

Re: [WISPA] Maximum sector power?

2010-06-24 Thread Robert West
Man, that's ugly. I've never tested the spread of the older nanos, the new M series look as if they stay where you put them though. But that's a mess... Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves

Re: [WISPA] Maximum sector power?

2010-06-24 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 6/24/2010 09:32 AM, Bob West wrote: Man, that's ugly. I've never tested the spread of the older nanos, the new M series look as if they stay where you put them though. But that's a mess... Sure is. I smell hardware. Looking at the plot over time, it reminded me of a well-known

Re: [WISPA] Maximum sector power?

2010-06-24 Thread Justin Wilson
I look at power compared to a car. You get better performance at a certain RPM on a car. This is almost never near the redline. Once you reach the limit you are wasting power. Radio cards are the same way. If you drive them at 100% they can not be as efficient as on a lower power setting.

Re: [WISPA] Maximum sector power?

2010-06-24 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I am not driving them past the default power, and often at lower then max modulations. The replaced cards are working closer to expected (still some bleed over but well under what the others were doing). The nano still spews like a collage student after sumer break. I am going to drop its

[WISPA] St. Louis Regional Meeting Change of Venue

2010-06-24 Thread Rick Harnish
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Re: [WISPA] St. Louis Regional Meeting Change of Venue

2010-06-24 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Great work on that Rick! Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:10 PM

Re: [WISPA] St. Louis Regional Meeting Change of Venue

2010-06-24 Thread Forbes Mercy
Great job, Rick. Forbes On 6/24/2010 1:09 PM, Rick Harnish wrote: To everyone, I have successfully negotiated a lower rate of $79/room at the Renaissance https://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/stlsa-renaissance-st-louis-airport-h otel/ Hotel near the St. Louis Airport. This rate will

Re: [WISPA] Wierd StarOS/OLSR - Ubiquity RocketM5 bridge - Cisco issue

2010-06-24 Thread RickG
Just curious - what if you switch the radio roles around (make the AP, the CPE and vice-versa)? I've had that fix some strange issues like that. -RickG On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I can't comment on the OP, but I can tell you that we are.  OSPF

Re: [WISPA] Maximum sector power?

2010-06-24 Thread RickG
Does the FCC take its cues from the IRS? :) On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: The PtP/PtMP distinction does create interesting ambiguity.  But then My favorite ambiguity is whether the PtP/PtMP distinction applies to the full-duplex system or per traffic

Re: [WISPA] Maximum sector power?

2010-06-24 Thread RickG
Not to argue your point as I agree with you but how do you know your running it at 100%? Just cause it says so doesnt mean it is. (It being the radio). -RickG On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:    I look at power compared to a car.  You get better performance

Re: [WISPA] Wierd StarOS/OLSR - Ubiquity RocketM5 bridge - Cisco issue

2010-06-24 Thread Scott Lambert
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 07:20:23AM -0600, Jayson Baker wrote: On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: On Jun 24, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Jayson Baker wrote: On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:38 AM, Scott Lambert wrote: We have been putting up some Ubiquity RocketM5 point-to-point

Re: [WISPA] Wierd StarOS/OLSR - Ubiquity RocketM5 bridge - Cisco issue

2010-06-24 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Sounds like Cisco / Vlan is giving you trouble... Two suggestions... check if there is a loop getting created somewhere.. and 2nd suggestions... turn CDP off on the Cisco ... Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518

Re: [WISPA] Wierd StarOS/OLSR - Ubiquity RocketM5 bridge - Cisco issue

2010-06-24 Thread Michael Baird
Turn off extra reporting on the Ubiquities. Regards Michael Baird Sounds like Cisco / Vlan is giving you trouble... Two suggestions... check if there is a loop getting created somewhere.. and 2nd suggestions... turn CDP off on the Cisco ... Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW

Re: [WISPA] Maximum sector power?

2010-06-24 Thread Justin Wilson
Yeah no way to tell unless you hook it up. I just go by if the radio is rated at 27dbm and the software is set to 27dbm then I am assuming it is 100%. Assuming is the key word. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support