Hi all,
in our point-to-point links, we have always used one single radio per
routerboard and that worked nicely.
Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad idea,
the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some
interference considering that the radios could
There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with using two
radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but someone had a solution.
I am sure someone will chime in or you could check the archive.
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On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
Why not use N radios? If you don't like UBNT Rockets, then look at
Mikrotik 411s with Baltic Networks' Ubitik device. You can buy the UBNT
dual-polarity dishes, but use Mikrotiks on them.
Eric Rogers
Precision Data Solutions, LLC
(317) 831-3000 x200
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From:
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 21:30, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:
Those of you familiar with which ones work do you know which model from
this website will work best?
http://www.oemoptic.com/
The whole point of SFPs is that (in theory, anyway) they're pretty much
interchangeable,
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 06:42, Paolo Di Francesco
paolo.difrance...@teleinform.com wrote:
Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad idea,
the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some
interference considering that the radios could be working on
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 08:47, Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com wrote:
Why not use N radios? If you don't like UBNT Rockets, then look at
Mikrotik 411s with Baltic Networks' Ubitik device. You can buy the UBNT
dual-polarity dishes, but use Mikrotiks on them.
Depends on the radio, but
That UBTik looks pretty cool.
Mikrotik rocks for a lot of things, but I don't trust their .N yet. For
N I'll stick with Ubnt till I'm overwhelmed with reports of Mikrotik N
greatness.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:47:22AM -0400, Eric Rogers wrote:
Why not use N radios? If you don't like UBNT
This looks a lot like multipath.
What size grid are you using? For only 3 miles a small 15 dB or less panel
should be more than enough.
Try moving the end up or down, sometimes by only a couple of feet.
marlon
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Look for things like buildings with new metal roofs etc. in the path...
marlon
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Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 5:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance
In my mind, you have
Rick
I didn't read the entire thread, but generally when you see a low TX
like that on Ubiquiti and the RSSI indicates it should be stronger it's
an ACK issue, specifically too short of an ack calculation. Make sure
you are using a fixed ACK on those, and that it is set high enough to
cover
Anyone familiar with fiber routes / connections in Africa? Specifically in
Zambia.
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I have a tower with all Tranzeo equipment.
Backhaul to tower is TR-5plus 5.8
The AP is TR-902 NF with a 180 degree antenna.
50 TR-902-11 as clients
All was working well until about 10 days ago when we noticed the speeds were
starting to decline.
Since then it is a nightmare speeds are usually
Changed frequencies?
Are all customers having problems or just several? many?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:05 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:
I have a tower with all Tranzeo equipment.
Backhaul to
You need to see what is going through your network from that AP. My
suggestion is to get a packet sniffer set up between the AP and the
Backhaul. You want to narrow the scope of your search with regards to the
problem. The the problem could be caused by the type of traffic on your
network or
Do you have public IPs on this tower, can one of us log in and look?
Are you keeping cacti or MRTG graphs of your signal strength etc?
If I still lived in Boonville I would be over in a heart-beat!
ryan
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:05 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:
I have a tower with all
900MHz is scary to work with...we've seen problems in the past from
someone just getting a wireless 900MHz baby monitor that would affect
others in the general area of the home.
It could also be that someone is hogging or trashing your bandwidth too.
Do you implement any type of QoS?
On
anybody using multiple ubnt sr71-15 with/without any inteference issue?
Thank you in advance
That UBTik looks pretty cool.
Mikrotik rocks for a lot of things, but I don't trust their .N yet. For
N I'll stick with Ubnt till I'm overwhelmed with reports of Mikrotik N
greatness.
On
My first instinct is this is a traffic issue. Are you monitoring traffic
through the AP and SM's?
Possible sources:
Customer with an infected PC spewing upstream
IP camera with a remote viewer - will use as much BW as it can gobble up
P2P application seeding multiple streams
- Jerry
From:
bridge loop?
arp storm?
That's an awful lot of clients on that one AP. If all your CPEs are in bridge
mode you could have alot of customer routers creating an arp storm for you.
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From: Ryan Spott
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:22
All clients
Changed channels several times
NGL
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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:11 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Major Disaster
Changed frequencies?
Are all
Also, is there a spectrum analyzer or something that will tell you what the
noise looks like? It may be new interference.
Possible sources:
- Smart Meters
- Farm Equipment Control Systems
- Another 900MHz WISP (Canopy will beat up an 802.11 based 900 system)
- Jerry
From:
Kurt had an insteresting thread awhile back where he had 2 cards and a
spectrum analyzer.
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From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net
On 8/18/2010 11:31 AM, ~NGL~ wrote:
All clients
Changed channels several times
NGL
what channel sizes? What freqs are you on for CPE and AP?
Leon
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Things I would check:
1.Do you have a customer(s) not at the best modulation rate? One
customer could be bringing the whole AP to a crawl, especially when they
start pulling traffic. Look at customer re-transmits and see if you see any
excessive problems. Make those customers better
If you're assigning static IP's to customers, make sure you don't have a
conflict. In the past with issues like this I would just start bumping
people, starting with the newest ones first, until the issue clears up. We
now run monitors that track down issues like this pretty quick too. Dude
has
Quarter 5 MHZ
908/5 MHZ
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From: Leon D. Zetekoff wa4...@arrl.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:39 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Major Disaster
On 8/18/2010 11:31 AM, ~NGL~ wrote:
All clients
Changed channels several times
Re: [WISPA] Major DisasterWe have changed all wiring on the tower.
Floor Noise is the same 90-dbm
We have changed channels several times
From: Justin Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Major Disaster
Things I would
Can you check for packet loss on the loop? We've seen this kind of thing
happen when a nic card in a BH radio went bad and started dropping a steady
20% of the packets.
Dave Hannum
New Era Broadband, LLC
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Larry Yunker
leyun...@wispadvantage.comwrote:
You
On 8/18/2010 11:48 AM, ~NGL~ wrote:
Quarter 5 MHZ
908/5 MHZ
backhaul is on 900 too?
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From: Leon D. Zetekoffwa4...@arrl.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:39 AM
To:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Major Disaster
On 8/18/2010
On 8/18/2010 11:56 AM, ~NGL~ wrote:
We have changed all wiring on the tower.
Floor Noise is the same 90-dbm
We have changed channels several times
whats the data rates on the backhaul and the CPEs?
*From:* Justin Wilson mailto:li...@mtin.net
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:41 AM
If it were me, and the problem happens anytime of the day I would
disassociate all the customers in the middle of the night (providing you see
the problem then too) and turn them on a few at a time until the problem
re-appears. If having a just a few on still has the same results it¹s
either
This is a reminder that the FCC Form 477 Report is due September 1st. All
broadband service providers, (telecommunications, cable, and broadband over
power line providers) must report broadband services by census tract, type
of technology, and upload and download speeds on the FCC's Form 477.
On 8/18/2010 12:00 PM, Leon D. Zetekoff wrote:
On 8/18/2010 11:56 AM, ~NGL~ wrote:
We have changed all wiring on the tower.
Floor Noise is the same 90-dbm
We have changed channels several times
whats the data rates on the backhaul and the CPEs?
also what are signal levels from CPEs and
Check the maps on telecomramblings.com
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 8/18/2010 10:02 AM, Jason Hensley wrote:
Anyone familiar with fiber routes / connections in Africa?
Specifically in Zambia.
Thanks!
If you have 50 clients on 5MHz you need to change IMO.
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From: ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Major Disaster
Quarter 5 MHZ
908/5 MHZ
Log into 5 customer radios.
Change secondary SSID on the CPE to something different from your APs SSID.
Change your AP SSID to match this new one.
Do this a few times until you find the problem client(s).
50 clients is A LOT for a TR902F.
ryan
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:05 AM, ~NGL~
Re: [WISPA] Major DisasterThat is our next step, to remove all clients except 2
from the Mac list in the AP Access Control List
From: Justin Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Major Disaster
If it were me, and the problem
Ryan is correct. 50 clients on 900 5mhz is quite a bit, even at sub 128k
service levels.
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From: Ryan Spott
On 8/18/2010 12:18 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:
That is our next step, to remove all clients except 2 from the Mac
list in the AP Access Control List
*From:* Justin Wilson mailto:li...@mtin.net
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:01 AM
*To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
Hey Marlon,
Thanks for the input. One thing I put wrong here was the link is actually 6
miles. I doubt it's multipath though since both ends are on towers that are
on hilltops much higher than the surrounding area with clear LOS. I tried
several radios antenna combos though from big to small. It
Michael,
Thanks for the tip. I saw you mentioned this previously and fixed a few
flaky issues by turning off auto.
Thanks again!
-RickG
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote:
Rick
I didn't read the entire thread, but generally when you see a low TX like
I love UBNT. I've been upgrading backhauls to RocketM's and CPE to BulletM's
and/or NanoM's. Customers keep mentioning the network seems faster faster.
The word on the street is we're faster than cable dsl! The only issue I've
had so far is that the legacy radios dont like UBNT AP's.
On Wed,
Re: [WISPA] Major DisasterThere are some troubleshooting steps you need to
take. I don't see them listed here.
Call me and we'll talk this out some more. 509.988.0260
First, what speed do you see on the network from the noc?
What speed at the end of the backhaul?
What happens when you go to
We run the Tranzeo 902nf radios as APs and the most we can get on them
is about 10-15 clients. After that performance declines rapidly. How
you ever got 50 on there is amazing. We have since moved to a MT AP
using a zcom gz901 card, and the performance has been much better.
Tranzeo radios just
Umac when running good this morning around 5.5% now running slow about 18%
At time getting to AP is ify
Firmware is 5.0.5
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From: Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 11:49 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
I would say you are overloading the AP. Probably caused by a client
sending a bunch of junk packets and overloading it. What is the
modulation speed that your clients are connecting at? I would try
disabling the clients that are running 1mbs, see if that helps.
Chris
It sounds like you are focusing in on a radio problem but you have ignored
the possibility of a traffic-related problem. You need to recognize that in
a non-polling or a dynamic-polling environment, the upstream traffic from
your clients will have an impact on the performance of your network and
If I replace the 180 degree antenna and replace it with 3 tr-902 -11 what
spacing do I need between them?
NGL
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From: ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:02 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Major
Don't know if this is possible at your site, but can you add a second AP? Just
switch polarity, channels and try to separate the antenna by 10'+
Then start moving clients over until you have them ~50/50.
Good luck.
On Aug 18, 2010, at 3:02 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:
Umac when running good this morning
Whoops, sorry. My last reply suggested adding an AP w/different polarity. That
would require going to 1/2 the clients and rotating their antenna. (was
thinking of Trango's automatic polarity switching)
On Aug 18, 2010, at 3:02 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:
Umac when running good this morning around 5.5%
Don't use the 180Degree antenna.
use 2 TR-902-11 they have 55*H and 60*V... should be good to go with 2.
I would also look into a zcomax in a mikrotik or at the least, an EL-900:
http://www.tranzeo.com/products/radios/EL-900-Series @ $300 they are not
too bad.
ryan
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at
I am looking for a 1500VA ups with IP control that wont kill me with the price.
Steve Barnes
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Hello,
I am looking for some working Cacti traffic templates for Mikrotik
routers, RouterOS version 4.x, for graphing ethernet interfaces. I found
templates for 3.x, but they do not appear to work. I also found numerous
4.x templates for wireless interfaces, CPU load, et cetera, but I would
I am using the standard SNMP interface graphs for ethernet on my ROS4.X
router. Seems to work well.
ryan
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Justin Mann justinl...@unwiredwest.comwrote:
Hello,
I am looking for some working Cacti traffic templates for Mikrotik
routers, RouterOS version 4.x, for
I usually buy APC SmartUPS 1500KVA, used on ebay with SNMP card AP9617...this
card emails you if the UPS goes on battery.
Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
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541-998-5599 fax
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From: Steve Barnes
Refurbups.com has them at 300 bucks, a 961x on ebay is 120.
On Aug 18, 2010 6:45 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:
I usually buy APC SmartUPS 1500KVA, used on ebay with SNMP card
AP9617...this card emails you if the UPS goes on battery.
Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
1702 W. 2nd Ave
Suite A
We do tripp lite SU750 series, like $350, plus the $200 IP card. The ups is
dual conversion. Line interactive is garbage. Just sayin..
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Luthman
Good link. Thanks.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Refurbups.com has them at 300 bucks, a 961x on ebay is 120.
On Aug 18, 2010 6:45 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:
I usually buy APC SmartUPS 1500KVA, used on ebay
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:42 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
Are there any Munis using Ruckus?
They have a city in India, I believe.
(Can anyone else confirm this? I can't remember the city)
WISPA Wants
Mumbai had a test network setup in part of the city last I knew. Not
sure the purpose.
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From: Rogelio
Thank you all for your responses. I change the AP to B mode only, then
set the ACK manually and now it's performance is on par with the Tr6600
we had before. I also changed 1 client to another AP.
Mark
On 08/12/2010 11:56 AM, Mark Dueck wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I had a bunch of my
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