Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik VPN Script

2010-09-22 Thread Greg Ihnen
If this was asked earlier in the thread I missed it. On which interfaces should arp-proxy be enabled? Just on the local net or on the public interface(s) as well? Greg On Sep 22, 2010, at 12:38 AM, Butch Evans wrote: On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 22:51 -0400, Francois Menard wrote: Are you saying

[WISPA] Copper Theft

2010-09-22 Thread Blake Bowers
From the DHS morning report September 21, Milford Daily News - (Massachusetts) Two copper thefts investigated in Milford. Police are investigating the thefts of copper from a Pine Street church and a Verizon substation in Milford, Massachusetts, sometime September 19. The police chief said

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik VPN Script

2010-09-22 Thread Robert West
Thanks, all. I'll be working it later again.. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:07 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]

[WISPA] nanostation and canopy towers within 2 miles of each other

2010-09-22 Thread Marco Coelho
I've got a competitor getting ready to light a nanostation based tower within 2 miles of one of my Canopy 2.4 towers. What kind of interference should I expect? Listening to this guy, their radios are magic and can shoot through trees and over hills. Totally overcoming line of site issues. Is

[WISPA] Inventory Software

2010-09-22 Thread Steve Barnes
I have a company who wants me to come in an attach to their network and do a IP/system name/user inventory. But they don't want me to have access to their servers or passwords. Is there an app out there that might do this. I know I can do an angry IPscan and get IP and machine name. I was

Re: [WISPA] nanostation and canopy towers within 2 miles of each other

2010-09-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Not radio dependant. Rf is Rf. If he's shooting through trees it is 900 or 3.65 mimo. On Sep 22, 2010 12:57 PM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a competitor getting ready to light a nanostation based tower within 2 miles of one of my Canopy 2.4 towers. What kind of

Re: [WISPA] Inventory Software

2010-09-22 Thread Josh Luthman
I did spread sheets, moving to powercode. On Sep 22, 2010 1:00 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: I have a company who wants me to come in an attach to their network and do a IP/system name/user inventory. But they don't want me to have access to their servers or passwords. Is there an

[WISPA] VOIP PHONE 10 Mhz

2010-09-22 Thread Steve Barnes
I am looking for a Wireless VOIP Phone that my installers could have to use out at customers. What would be a clincher is if it had the ability to also do 10Mhz Channels so when at a tower they could use it. Some of our towers are very rural and their cell phones don't work well. Any

Re: [WISPA] VOIP PHONE 10 Mhz

2010-09-22 Thread Charles N Wyble
SIP app on Android or iPhone? On 09/22/2010 10:09 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: I am looking for a Wireless VOIP Phone that my installers could have to use out at customers. What would be a clincher is if it had the ability to also do 10Mhz Channels so when at a tower they could use it. Some

Re: [WISPA] VOIP PHONE 10 Mhz

2010-09-22 Thread Josh Luthman
10mhz will be rough. Maybe an ns2 an voip phone? One installer used a cisco phone for this. He liked it, made me smile. On Sep 22, 2010 1:11 PM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: SIP app on Android or iPhone? On 09/22/2010 10:09 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: I am looking for a

Re: [WISPA] nanostation and canopy towers within 2 miles of each other

2010-09-22 Thread Jack Unger
Yes; he's smoking something strange or someone is feeding him a line of BS. On 9/22/2010 9:57 AM, Marco Coelho wrote: I've got a competitor getting ready to light a nanostation based tower within 2 miles of one of my Canopy 2.4 towers. What kind of interference should I expect? Listening

Re: [WISPA] Inventory Software

2010-09-22 Thread Georges-Keny PAUL
It depends on what kind of information that you have to inventory. If it is a security issue test on a LAN network fine. Otherwise you need Administrator or root access to the Box to do the job. Of course, you can have a lot of information about protocol running on the Box, just using a port scan

Re: [WISPA] Inventory Software

2010-09-22 Thread Steve Barnes
You are all telling me what I thought would be the case. What would be a great app is a little app you put on a Flash drive and plug it into the pc and it does a scan and saves the data to a .csv. Nothing loaded tells memory, cpu, IP, user and whatever. Oh well since I am the furthest thing

Re: [WISPA] nanostation and canopy towers within 2 miles of each other

2010-09-22 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I don't have personal experience with UBNT M2 and Moto Canopy. However I would suggest that you do a search on UBNT forms for posts by 'WHT' and also on DSLReports WISP Forums. WHT is one of the Beta Testers for advance features and newer firmware coming down the pikes. His testing suggests

Re: [WISPA] Inventory Software

2010-09-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Should have read better. Netscan is another good app. On Sep 22, 2010 1:33 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: You are all telling me what I thought would be the case. What would be a great app is a little app you put on a Flash drive and plug it into the pc and it does a scan and saves

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik VPN Script

2010-09-22 Thread Philip Dorr
on the interface that has the same IP subnet as the VPN On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: If this was asked earlier in the thread I missed it. On which interfaces should arp-proxy be enabled? Just on the local net or on the public interface(s) as well?

[WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread John Thomas
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Re: [WISPA] 189 mile wifi link- 5.8G Ubiquiti

2010-09-22 Thread Tom DeReggi
Pretty impressive for 5.8Ghz. I'm aware of numerous long 2.4G links, but this is clearly a record for 5.8G. http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/ It was even over water, all be it, it was also on top of a mountain a mile high :-) They said they pulled off 5 mbps. Its funny, I remember conversatiosn

Re: [WISPA] 189 mile wifi link- 5.8G Ubiquiti

2010-09-22 Thread Josh Luthman
I thought I had seen this before. It's on the MT forums and from 23:43 August 26, 2007. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: Pretty impressive for 5.8Ghz.

Re: [WISPA] 189 mile wifi link- 5.8G Ubiquiti

2010-09-22 Thread Travis Johnson
Dang they just beat my 127 mile link using Trango radios from 4-5 years ago... :( I don't think I have two mountaintops that far apart :( Travis Microserv On 9/22/2010 4:49 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Pretty impressive for 5.8Ghz. I'm aware of numerous long 2.4G links, but this is

Re: [WISPA] 189 mile wifi link- 5.8G Ubiquiti

2010-09-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Dang they just beat my 127 mile link using Trango radios from 4-5 years ago... :( *Jaw dropping smilie here* Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:  Dang

Re: [WISPA] 189 mile wifi link- 5.8G Ubiquiti

2010-09-22 Thread Rubens Kuhl
I've seen a few of those records, but I would like to see records of long distance *stable* connections, let's say four nines. Rubens On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: Pretty impressive for 5.8Ghz. I'm aware of numerous long 2.4G links, but this is

Re: [WISPA] 189 mile wifi link- 5.8G Ubiquiti

2010-09-22 Thread Jerry Richardson
Not with that link - LOL If you sneezed next to the antenna it would probably drop the link - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 4:27 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Steve Barnes
Talk about trash articles. This was terrible. I hope next time they do one of these test they let us know so we can release a few hawks and a couple of guys with 12 gauge shot guns. Not to mention you ever tried to copy 300gb files from one computer to another over a standard 10/100 network.

[WISPA] OT: IPPLAN Install

2010-09-22 Thread Justin Wilson
Anyone installed ipplan lately? I can¹t get it to take the admin password defined in config.php. I can get ot the install.php page but it prompts for user/pass. At that point it won¹t take anything. This happened on 6beta and the 4.x. I am assuming it is not an ipplan issue but maybe an

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Totally agree. When your Internet has to go 22,300 miles, at best, straight up for its first hop even the speed of light begins to feel slow. Speed of light = 186k miles per second. Light can travel that 22,300 miles 8.5 times in one second. That's back and forth 4 times in the time you

Re: [WISPA] OT: IPPLAN Install

2010-09-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Looks like mine is using http auth? http://iam8up.com/ipplan/admin/usermanager.php Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: Anyone installed ipplan lately?  I can’t get

Re: [WISPA] OT: IPPLAN Install

2010-09-22 Thread Justin Wilson
I found my answer buried. It is because I had fast CGI installed. Added this to an .htaccess file in the ipplan directory: AddHandler application/x-httpd-php .php -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog ­ xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw ­ Follow me on Twitter

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Jim Patient
Crap, one of the hillbillies in the trailer park shot my best low latency pigeon. Now they got free dinner and a movie;-) Jim Patient Cell: 314-565-6863 Desk: 636-692-4200 YIM: jeffcosoho www.wlan1.com www.linktechs.net www.wifimidwest.com On 9/22/2010 6:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Totally

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Steve Barnes
ROFLMBO Thanks!!! Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Greg Ihnen
That's the speed of light in a vacuum. It's somewhat slower in matter (air). I use satellite internet here and the latency is a little under 800ms at best. A ping has to go from my terminal up to the satellite, down to the earth station, back up from the earth station, and back down to my

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Josh Luthman
The latency can't be because of the distance. Rf travels too fast for that. I expect there are large modem banks on the satellite. On Sep 22, 2010 9:40 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: That's the speed of light in a vacuum. It's somewhat slower in matter (air). I use satellite

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Greg Ihnen
Did you ever talk on an overseas phone call that was via satellite? Did you ever talk on a maritime satellite phone link? It takes practice to communicate smoothly because of the long delay. It's why for voice traffic carriers prefer undersea fiber. What are modem banks? Greg On Sep 22,

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Chris Cooper
I can't fully trust a man with a hyphenated last name Thanks, Chris Cooper On Sep 22, 2010, at 6:43 PM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/it-8217s-official-carrier-pigeons-are-faster-than-rural-internet/173?tag=nl.e539 --- --- --- ---

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Robert West
That's about UK Pigeons. US pigeons are MUCH faster! My pigeons have a 13ms ping, verified by Speed Test .Net. I'm really getting tired of pigeon bashing by the media. It all depends on the flock. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Check your math... Best case scenarios: c = 3e8 m/s = 3e5 km/s l = 22000 mi = 35406 km (35406 km) / (30 km/s) = 0.118 s = 118 ms Round trip packet time due to RF delays only from ground point to ground point = 472 ms Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Robert West
What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 7:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Robert West
I talked to the underworld via Ouija board once. It sucked. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

Re: [WISPA] VOIP PHONE 10 Mhz

2010-09-22 Thread Jeromie Reeves
DECT phone in the install rig with a 10mhz radio and a ATA. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: 10mhz will be rough.  Maybe an ns2 an voip phone? One installer used a cisco phone for this.  He liked it, made me smile. On Sep 22, 2010 1:11 PM,

Re: [WISPA] FW: TechNet Flash: IE9 Beta is here

2010-09-22 Thread Al Stewart
Yeah, but IE9 ONLY works with Windows 7. Al -- At 10:10 PM 09/22/2010 -0400, Robert West wrote: --- Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_00D1_01CB5AA2.EE501AA0 Content-Language: en-us Oh, hell. IE9. Get ready for the calls…….. From:

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Greg Ihnen
Another factor for us is contention. Our service provider's bandwidth is oversold. So the packets have to wait. We've used a couple of different providers and three different satellites and I don't think I've ever seen a sub 600ms ping. This is typical 64 bytes from 204.9.163.162: icmp_seq=0

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Ah. Feeling rather full after dinner.. Bob.. Count your pigeons to see if any of them are missing.. Oh Boy !... The Stuffed Pigeons we had for dinner were very delicious...! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/22/2010 10:08 PM, Robert West wrote: That's about UK Pigeons. US

Re: [WISPA] FW: TechNet Flash: IE9 Beta is here

2010-09-22 Thread Robert West
Of course. Would take much less effort to support everything else… My pal, Microsoft.. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Al Stewart Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW:

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Robert West
Speechless... From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? Another factor for us is contention. Our

Re: [WISPA] FW: TechNet Flash: IE9 Beta is here

2010-09-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Also for Vista and 2008... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca wrote: Yeah, but IE9 ONLY works with Windows 7. Al -- At 10:10 PM 09/22/2010 -0400, Robert

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Robert West
Yep, just checked the log.. 6 lost packets. DAMN YOU FAISAL!! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:41 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] FW: TechNet Flash: IE9 Beta is here

2010-09-22 Thread Robert West
Not Windows ME? I may need to upgrade -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: TechNet Flash: IE9 Beta is here

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Jason Bailey
satellite internet sux! Try and argue!discussion has ended --- On Wed, 9/22/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? To: fai...@snappydsl.net, 'WISPA General List'

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Robert West
Boy, that's for sure. How many non-penetrating roof mounts have I refused to take after replacing the BS dish with the good stuff...? Lots. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Robert West
Satellite Internet. Don't ask, don't tell. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Robert West
Ended? Damn, and I had more whacked out stuff to say. Darn it! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Bailey Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Jason Bailey
like --- On Wed, 9/22/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 11:01 PM Boy, that’s for

Re: [WISPA] [OT] US hunters shoot down Google fiber

2010-09-22 Thread Jim Patient
They should get a ticket for hunting fiber during pigeon season! Jim Patient Cell: 314-565-6863 Desk: 636-692-4200 YIM: jeffcosoho www.wlan1.com www.linktechs.net www.wifimidwest.com On 9/21/2010 9:27 AM, David E. Smith wrote: I know some of you don't like competiton, but this is going a bit

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Blair Davis
I can argue Better than DIAL-UP!! Jason Bailey wrote: satellite internet sux! Try and argue!discussion has ended --- On Wed, 9/22/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Mark Dueck
I have to agree Satellite internet sux!!.. I'm supporting a few companies that have Sat, and it's so unstable. 2:30pm till around 8:00pm you get about 1/4th the speed you're paying for. Pings too are terrible, but I can't quite believe people are complaining about 30ms pings. Here in Belize

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Josh Luthman
People are never happy. On Sep 23, 2010 12:20 AM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] 189 mile wifi link- 5.8G Ubiquiti

2010-09-22 Thread Fred Goldstein
Any hams on the list who know if the XR5 and XR3 meet Part 97 rules? I think the high-speed digital emission is legal on the 3.5 and 5.7 GHz ham bands... and these would be neat to have for VHF contests! At 9/22/2010 06:49 PM, you wrote: Pretty impressive for 5.8Ghz. I'm aware of numerous long

Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?

2010-09-22 Thread Mark Dueck
That is so true, and it reminds me of my son's favorite quote from Ice Age 2 - copied from knol.google.com: The adults were in the big part of the water park, while their children were in the daycare center to have time by their selves. Not far from the pool, an animal and his wife were on a