Re: [WISPA] What to do about storm damaged SMs?

2011-05-02 Thread Andy Trimmell
We also have the customer claim it on their home owners if they don't pay us for our CPE insurance. Home owners will cover it under their damage claim. Just as if the house fell on a car they were renting or borrowing for the weekend when the tornado came. It's not theirs but insurance would also

[WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.

2011-05-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I would greatly

Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.

2011-05-02 Thread Matt
Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB   469598 MB   573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April.  Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I would

Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.

2011-05-02 Thread Chuck Hogg
25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses

Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.

2011-05-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something. Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable companies,

Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.

2011-05-02 Thread Chuck Hogg
Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them?

Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.

2011-05-02 Thread Mark Nash
I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these... 1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows for more costs more), or 2. change their behavior to not use so much 3. leave I am

Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.

2011-05-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Chuck - Right or wrong is arguable, but if you don't have the spectrum then I would do the same thing you are. I would argue it is right - you're offering equal service to people for important things (Facebook [communicating with family]) instead of letting moochers (Netflix) have the runway.

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Ligo and UBNT link calculator

2011-05-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Same here, Ligo failed. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Bruce Robertson br...@greatbasin.netwrote: Ligo, yes. On 05/02/2011 10:30 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Anyone else having problems with

Re: [WISPA] Looking for 50-100Mbps link in Stockton

2011-05-02 Thread Mike Hammett
Check with 360 Networks and Sunesys. They both have a presence in Stockton, but I am not sure of their capabilities there. If those don't work, let me know and I'll peruse my contacts for additional ones. Peter Di Giacomo Sunesys 630-613-7253

[WISPA] Strange Issue

2011-05-02 Thread Nick Olsen
Have a strange issue that is showing up in a few places. Was wondering what peoples thoughts are on this Here is how things are setup. Every tower has a Mikrotik router on it. And is OSPF Routed. Route to the customer is (Tower ATower BTower CTower DCustomer) Tower A is where we have fiber, And

Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue

2011-05-02 Thread Gino Villarini
What backhauls? How many sessions on the BW test? TCP or UDP? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Monday, May 02,

Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue

2011-05-02 Thread Sam Tetherow
I know it should be roughly the same, but what does testing the powerbridge to the rocket show using ubiquiti's internal speed test, and what does the quality and capacity numbers look like while running the bandwidth from the customer side to the various towers? On 5/2/11 4:20 PM, Nick Olsen

Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.

2011-05-02 Thread Matt
What is cost per megabit from your upstream? Divide your cost per megabit by 120 to get a good idea of your cost per gigabit at the NOC. If your paying $20 per megabit you would be at 0.17$ per GByte. Figuring your cost on the wireless network is nearly impossible. I am considering: Total

Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.

2011-05-02 Thread Sam Tetherow
Haven't run the numbers, but it doesn't look like this number is taking into consideration staff cost, other overhead such administrative cost, insurance, non-wireless gear and most importantly a reasonable profit margin. Looking at it from the other direction, I currently spend about 20% of

Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.

2011-05-02 Thread Mark Nash
This is even more of a difficult equation, because as ISPs, WE typically are not billed by the GB from OUR upstream providers. We are billed, generally-speaking, by one of two mechanisms: 1. Pipe speed... You pay for 50mbps and that's what you get. It doesn't matter if you only use 20, and

Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.

2011-05-02 Thread Marco Coelho
Has anybody worked on allowing streaming video up to lets say 10 Mb total transfer, then knocking THAT stream down to a slow rate? This would allow for your average utube streaming of a small video, but kill anything larger like netflix, hulu, etc. IP Tables and a dynamic script should be able to

Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.

2011-05-02 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 17:32, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody worked on allowing streaming video up to lets say 10 Mb total transfer, then knocking THAT stream down to a slow rate? I tried something like that a while back - we got so very many angry phone calls that the

Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.

2011-05-02 Thread Mark Nash
To follow through some thinking here... If that device was Billing-Server-Package-Aware then you could offer a higher level of service for HD customers that allowed the Netflix service to sense a higher-bandwidth connection and it may be more likely to stream in HD than SD. I say offer...the

Re: [WISPA] Looking for 50-100Mbps link in Stockton

2011-05-02 Thread Scott Piehn
Maybe I missed it, but which state. If illinois, I can do Scott Piehn - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson To: motor...@afmug.com ; WISPA General List Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 1:08 PM Subject: [WISPA] Looking for

Re: [WISPA] Looking for 50-100Mbps link in Stockton

2011-05-02 Thread Mike Hammett
I assumed Stockton, CA since that is near his coverage area. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 5/2/2011 7:31 PM, Scott Piehn wrote: Maybe I missed it, but which state. If

Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue

2011-05-02 Thread Nick Olsen
The Licenced Backhauls are Trango Apex 11ghz. tower C and D connect via a Radwin 5ghz backhaul. Default bandwidth test settings. so 20 sessions, And thats TCP bandwidth. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Gino Villarini

Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue

2011-05-02 Thread Nick Olsen
Signal is ~-55 Airmax Quality=97% Airmax Capacity=94% Ubnt speedtest shows the same results from APSU. Just a little bit slower then MT bandwidth test over the same link to the tower router. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Sam

Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue

2011-05-02 Thread Louis Arsenault
Is this all routed or bridged? If routed are there multiple paths back to tower B. Are you doing any Queues that might be limiting bandwidth for the customers IP? -Louis On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Signal is ~-55 Airmax Quality=97% Airmax Capacity=94%

Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue

2011-05-02 Thread Sam Tetherow
Those numbers hold steady while the MT bandwidth test is running? Nick Olsen wrote: Signal is ~-55 Airmax Quality=97% Airmax Capacity=94% Ubnt speedtest shows the same results from APSU. Just a little bit slower then MT bandwidth test over the same link to the tower router. Nick Olsen