[WISPA] Vendor members that do mailers

2014-04-15 Thread Josh Luthman
If you've worked with any company that does mailers and is a member, would you mind posting your experience (onlist or not)? I'm looking at targeting an area and I'd rather not do all of that work manually again. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337

Re: [WISPA] Vendor members that do mailers

2014-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Lorex\Market Broadband or something like that. They were talked about a couple weeks ago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

[WISPA] test

2014-04-15 Thread Tom DeReggi
hi there Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc 301-515-7774 IntAirNet - Fixed Wireless Broadband ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

[WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs?

2014-04-15 Thread Tom DeReggi
Guys, I've been out of the loop for a couple years, regarding current status of CAF/USF/Tax requirements for WISPs. I was surprised when I recieved my first bill from my new upstream fiber provider. (they are a dark fiber provider, recently expanded to also offer metro ethernet IP) Note: I

[WISPA] New FCC rules for 5 GHz bands

2014-04-15 Thread Tom DeReggi
Excellent Summry. Can you clarify. In previous ISM/UNII 5.750-5.850Ghz, the 2 to1 rule was allowed similar to 2.4Ghz, so that 5.8GHZ CPEs in Point-to-MultiPpoint systems could transmit at PTP EIRP (higher than the AP 36db EIRP limit) as long as it was increased via antenna gain. Does

[WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs

2014-04-15 Thread Tom DeReggi
Guys, I've been out of the loop for a couple years, regarding current status of CAF/USF/Tax requirements for WISPs. I was surprised when I recieved my first bill from my new upstream fiber provider. (they are a dark fiber provider, recently expanded to also offer metro ethernet IP) Note: I

Re: [WISPA] test

2014-04-15 Thread Sam Tetherow
hey stranger. On 04/15/2014 04:11 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: hi there Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc 301-515-7774 IntAirNet - Fixed Wireless Broadband ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs?

2014-04-15 Thread Fred Goldstein
On 4/15/2014 5:12 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Guys, I've been out of the loop for a couple years, regarding current status of CAF/USF/Tax requirements for WISPs. I was surprised when I recieved my first bill from my new upstream fiber provider. (they are a dark fiber provider, recently expanded to

Re: [WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs

2014-04-15 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
condensed answer .. 1. You can claim exemption from communication taxes if you ask for ITNA (Internet Taxation Freedom Act) Exemption.. (Most providers now have forms for it, even though it is not easy to get them to provide the forms)., as long as you are not in a grandfathered state.

Re: [WISPA] New FCC rules for 5 GHz bands

2014-04-15 Thread Fred Goldstein
On 4/15/2014 5:13 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Excellent Summry. Can you clarify. In previous ISM/UNII 5.750-5.850Ghz, the 2 to1 rule was allowed similar to 2.4Ghz, so that 5.8GHZ CPEs in Point-to-MultiPpoint systems could transmit at PTP EIRP (higher than the AP 36db EIRP limit) as

Re: [WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs

2014-04-15 Thread Matt Hoppes
I believe the reason you are being taxed is because this is a transport and not an internet circuit. As far as I know the internet freedom act only applies to Internet access. Sent from my iPad On Apr 15, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: Guys, I've been

Re: [WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs

2014-04-15 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
hmmm.. not quite accurate... Internet Freedom Act was updated to allow for taxes not to apply to internet access as well as communication circuits carrying internet access. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Re: [WISPA] [Spam] Re: New FCC rules for 5 GHz bands

2014-04-15 Thread Tom DeReggi
Fred, Ok, so in summary A WISP Internet Provider is an Information Service and does not collect or charge USF. And that end-to-end Internet Information Service solution is composed of 3 In-line components, working togeather as one. 1. Wireless last mile (provider me) 2. Fiber-based

Re: [WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs

2014-04-15 Thread Matt Hoppes
Oh really? Comcast wants to charge me 16% USF on a point to point to carry Internet traffic. Sent from my iPad On Apr 15, 2014, at 6:27 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote: hmmm.. not quite accurate... Internet Freedom Act was updated to allow for taxes not to

Re: [WISPA] [Spam] Re: New FCC rules for 5 GHz bands

2014-04-15 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Even though you are addressing this to Fred, I would like to point out where your confusion is coming from :- First of all, you need to keep in mind that USF is a tax from the Federal Gov, imposed on the Telecom Service Provider, however the Service provider is allowed to recover this from

Re: [WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs

2014-04-15 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
They all do. (i.e. try to screw the ISP/NSP/WISP) Chase down the person in-charge of their Tax Dept, and ask them for ITNA Tax Exemption Form :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option

Re: [WISPA] New FCC rules for 5 GHz bands

2014-04-15 Thread Dan Petermann
For fixed point to-point transmitters that employ a directional antenna gain greater than 23 dBi, a 1 dB reduction in maximum conducted output power and maximum power spectral density is required for each 1 dB of antenna gain in excess of 23 dBi” What is the assumed transmitter power? 30dBm?

Re: [WISPA] [Spam] Re: New FCC rules for 5 GHz bands

2014-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Wrong thread. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:39:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Spam] Re: New

Re: [WISPA] New FCC rules for 5 GHz bands

2014-04-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Correct. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Dan Petermann d...@wyoming.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:54:34 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] New FCC rules for 5 GHz bands

Re: [WISPA] New FCC rules for 5 GHz bands

2014-04-15 Thread Fred Goldstein
On 4/15/2014 6:54 PM, Dan Petermann wrote: For fixed point to-point transmitters that employ a directional antenna gain greater than 23 dBi, a 1 dB reduction in maximum conducted output power and maximum power spectral density is required for each 1 dB of antenna gain in excess of 23 dBi”

Re: [WISPA] [Spam] Re: New FCC rules for 5 GHz bands

2014-04-15 Thread Fred Goldstein
On 4/15/2014 6:39 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Fred, Ok, so in summary A WISP Internet Provider is an Information Service and does not collect or charge USF. And that end-to-end Internet Information Service solution is composed of 3 In-line components, working togeather as one. 1.

Re: [WISPA] [Spam] Re: CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs

2014-04-15 Thread Tom DeReggi
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/pdf/uscode47/lii_usc_TI_47_CH_5_SC_I_SE_151.pdf Regarding State TaxesIn support of Faisal's statements The term ‘Internet access service’ does not include telecommunications services, except to the extent such services are purchased, used, or sold by a

Re: [WISPA] [Spam] Re: CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs

2014-04-15 Thread Matt Hoppes
State? Or Federal? I read that as USC - so it would be Federal. Sent from my iPad On Apr 15, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/pdf/uscode47/lii_usc_TI_47_CH_5_SC_I_SE_151.pdf Regarding State TaxesIn support of Faisal's

Re: [WISPA] [Spam] Re: [Spam] Re: CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs

2014-04-15 Thread Tom DeReggi
Im not understanding what you are asking, but The link I provided was the bill (internet freedom act) extended through Nov 2014, stating that it made it federal law that no state could tax Internet Access in any form. The uncertainty came in what the definition was of Internet access. And

Re: [WISPA] [Spam] Re: [Spam] Re: CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs

2014-04-15 Thread Matt Hoppes
Right. Ok on the same page then. :) Sent from my iPad On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: Im not understanding what you are asking, but The link I provided was the bill (internet freedom act) extended through Nov 2014, stating that it made it

Re: [WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs

2014-04-15 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
The key for Comcast is to make sure your contract says intra-state and not inter-state for the tax jurisdiction. They don't collect USF on intra-state circuits, only local city/county/state taxes as applicable. If your contract says inter-state (and it isn't inter-state), you can harass your

Re: [WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs

2014-04-15 Thread Matt Hoppes
Good info. What is their reasoning behind that? Sent from my iPad On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:05 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: The key for Comcast is to make sure your contract says intra-state and not inter-state for the tax jurisdiction. They don't collect USF on

Re: [WISPA] [Spam] Re: CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs

2014-04-15 Thread Tom DeReggi
Regarding USF wholesaler must have evidence that the reseller customer both “(1) [incorporates] the purchased telecommunications services into its own offerings, and (2) can reasonably be expected to contribute to support universal service based on revenues from those offerings. In the