Vonage Was Re: [WISPA] CALEA opinion... it's nice to know
Gee, has this ever happened to someone on a cell phone? -Original Message- From: George Rogato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 2, 2007 10:03 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA opinion... it's nice to know Not to change the subject, but on that page, I fund this a lot more disturbing.. http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/03/vonage_fire.html wispa wrote: That at least SOME people agree with me. http://blogs.globalcrossing.com/regulatory?from=50 The second entry on that page is very interesting. While this entry is a bit out of date, he makes a very interesting point... That the feds are trying to figure out how to mandate the costs of whatever they want on industry... Very much akin to requiring every home to be built with peepholes, and platforms at our windows, so they look in on us without difficulty. Maybe even requiring remote control drapes? Yeah, yeah, I know, you have to be a political radical to NOT want that built into all our homes... but, he has a point. Mark Koskenmaki Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: Vonage Was Re: [WISPA] CALEA opinion... it's nice to know
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 19:01:16 +, John J. Thomas wrote Gee, has this ever happened to someone on a cell phone? I have dialed 911 and had the call dropped. I guess I should sue the cell phone company and lobby Congress to ensure 911 calls cannot be dropped. Or maybe that's patently absurd. Mark Koskenmaki Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: Vonage Was Re: [WISPA] CALEA opinion... it's nice to know
My point was that they are slamming VOIP, when the cell phone companies stuff doesn't work any better. And, cell phone users have been paying a lot of money for upgrade to the cell phone networks that haven't even happened yet. John -Original Message- From: wispa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2007 11:32 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: Vonage WasRe: [WISPA] CALEA opinion... it's nice to know On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 19:01:16 +, John J. Thomas wrote Gee, has this ever happened to someone on a cell phone? I have dialed 911 and had the call dropped. I guess I should sue the cell phone company and lobby Congress to ensure 911 calls cannot be dropped. Or maybe that's patently absurd. Mark Koskenmaki Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] CALEA opinion... it's nice to know
That at least SOME people agree with me. http://blogs.globalcrossing.com/regulatory?from=50 The second entry on that page is very interesting. While this entry is a bit out of date, he makes a very interesting point... That the feds are trying to figure out how to mandate the costs of whatever they want on industry... Very much akin to requiring every home to be built with peepholes, and platforms at our windows, so they look in on us without difficulty. Maybe even requiring remote control drapes? Yeah, yeah, I know, you have to be a political radical to NOT want that built into all our homes... but, he has a point. Mark Koskenmaki Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CALEA opinion... it's nice to know
Not to change the subject, but on that page, I fund this a lot more disturbing.. http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/03/vonage_fire.html wispa wrote: That at least SOME people agree with me. http://blogs.globalcrossing.com/regulatory?from=50 The second entry on that page is very interesting. While this entry is a bit out of date, he makes a very interesting point... That the feds are trying to figure out how to mandate the costs of whatever they want on industry... Very much akin to requiring every home to be built with peepholes, and platforms at our windows, so they look in on us without difficulty. Maybe even requiring remote control drapes? Yeah, yeah, I know, you have to be a political radical to NOT want that built into all our homes... but, he has a point. Mark Koskenmaki Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CALEA opinion... it's nice to know
On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:03:58 -0800, George Rogato wrote Not to change the subject, but on that page, I fund this a lot more disturbing.. http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/03/vonage_fire.html Dang! Let's just outlaw VOIP! Problem solved. Mark Koskenmaki Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
NOW: 911 Services for VoIP WAS: [WISPA] CALEA opinion... it's nice to know
George, Since you changed the subject... Calling 911 and being put on hold (or hearing the phone ring for 5 minutes) is more the norm, at least here in California. There are only a limited number of operators who answer 911 calls. With cell phones and especially on the freeway, often many people call in to report the same incident leaving many callers on hold until the operators can work their way through the queue. What's the solution to this situation? SELF-RELIANCE!!! UUGGG-OOOFF (I exclaimed, beating my fists against my chest like a big male gorilla) BTW, because there are always at least 3 sides to any story, here's more about Vonage/VoIP/outsourced VoIP services: http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/vonage_sbc.html http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/vonage_verizon.html http://www.dash911.com/?gclid=CJC26vvc1ooCFQ3ZYAodrA7UdA jack the gorilla George Rogato wrote: Not to change the subject, but on that page, I fund this a lot more disturbing.. http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/03/vonage_fire.html wispa wrote: That at least SOME people agree with me. http://blogs.globalcrossing.com/regulatory?from=50 The second entry on that page is very interesting. While this entry is a bit out of date, he makes a very interesting point... That the feds are trying to figure out how to mandate the costs of whatever they want on industry... Very much akin to requiring every home to be built with peepholes, and platforms at our windows, so they look in on us without difficulty. Maybe even requiring remote control drapes? Yeah, yeah, I know, you have to be a political radical to NOT want that built into all our homes... but, he has a point. Mark Koskenmaki Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Newsletters Downloadable from http://ask-wi.com/newsletters.html Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: NOW: 911 Services for VoIP WAS: [WISPA] CALEA opinion... it's nice to know
On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:39:32 -0800, Jack Unger wrote For those of us who live in the hinterland... Most rural people do not have free fire departments. Here, if you live outside the city limits and do not pay the fire department fees, they WILL NOT come and put your house or shop or fields or anything else out. But to directly address that idea... For the most part, RFD response is long enough that whether you call them or not, the damage is usually the same. They're pretty good at preventing the spread of a fire, not in rapid response and saving a home that just caught fire. I would have NOT wanted to be the person who put the guy on hold. That would haunt me until death or senility took away my mind. Call on your VOIP phone because the house caught fire? Why not just email the fire department? Gee, I'm sorry, but what on earth was he thinking? Mark Koskenmaki Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
