Re: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas

2009-06-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
Bob,

Yes, there are Dual Pol smaller than 2 ft.
You can get them from Titan Wireless in TX.
For $150 they sell a Dul Pol panel (I think 23dbi?) that can be used for 
Full Duplex or Two channels.

And then of course there is Trango Broadband's Dual Pol 24dbi pannel for 
about $300.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas


 You won't find dual pol smaller than 2'

 If you do I would like to see it

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 -Original Message-
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com

 Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:42:21
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas


 I would like to use MikroTik to create a fdx link that's going across a
 stadium (that's a bit more then 100 yards).  I'm thinking about looking 
 for
 some small dual pol antennas best case or the ARC ones worst case (as
 they're monstrous).

 I'll probably end up using the Compex wlm54ag at 5ghz cards and a 433ah.

 There will be voice and video traffic across this link, which is why I'd
 prefer to do fdx.

 Can anyone suggest a better alternative?  Anyone know of some good 
 antennas
 for this?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

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Re: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas

2009-06-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
Acutally the Dual Pol brand is Poynting, and back enclosure is included.

Tom DeReggi
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- Original Message - 
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas


 You won't find dual pol smaller than 2'

 If you do I would like to see it

 -B-
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com

 Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:42:21
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas


 I would like to use MikroTik to create a fdx link that's going across a
 stadium (that's a bit more then 100 yards).  I'm thinking about looking 
 for
 some small dual pol antennas best case or the ARC ones worst case (as
 they're monstrous).

 I'll probably end up using the Compex wlm54ag at 5ghz cards and a 433ah.

 There will be voice and video traffic across this link, which is why I'd
 prefer to do fdx.

 Can anyone suggest a better alternative?  Anyone know of some good 
 antennas
 for this?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
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Re: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas

2009-06-10 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net
We have some dual-pol integrated units. 

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Tom DeReggi wrote:
 Acutally the Dual Pol brand is Poynting, and back enclosure is included.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: lakel...@gbcx.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas


   
 You won't find dual pol smaller than 2'

 If you do I would like to see it

 -B-
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com

 Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:42:21
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas


 I would like to use MikroTik to create a fdx link that's going across a
 stadium (that's a bit more then 100 yards).  I'm thinking about looking 
 for
 some small dual pol antennas best case or the ARC ones worst case (as
 they're monstrous).

 I'll probably end up using the Compex wlm54ag at 5ghz cards and a 433ah.

 There will be voice and video traffic across this link, which is why I'd
 prefer to do fdx.

 Can anyone suggest a better alternative?  Anyone know of some good 
 antennas
 for this?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
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[WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas

2009-06-09 Thread Josh Luthman
I would like to use MikroTik to create a fdx link that's going across a
stadium (that's a bit more then 100 yards).  I'm thinking about looking for
some small dual pol antennas best case or the ARC ones worst case (as
they're monstrous).

I'll probably end up using the Compex wlm54ag at 5ghz cards and a 433ah.

There will be voice and video traffic across this link, which is why I'd
prefer to do fdx.

Can anyone suggest a better alternative?  Anyone know of some good antennas
for this?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle



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Re: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas

2009-06-09 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net
Yep..

Dual r52N cards in a Dual-Pol Arc Enclosure.  We can build, test and 
even put a base configuration on it for you if you wish.  Just plug them 
in and aim them at each other :) 

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Josh Luthman wrote:
 I would like to use MikroTik to create a fdx link that's going across a
 stadium (that's a bit more then 100 yards).  I'm thinking about looking for
 some small dual pol antennas best case or the ARC ones worst case (as
 they're monstrous).

 I'll probably end up using the Compex wlm54ag at 5ghz cards and a 433ah.

 There will be voice and video traffic across this link, which is why I'd
 prefer to do fdx.

 Can anyone suggest a better alternative?  Anyone know of some good antennas
 for this?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
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Re: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas

2009-06-09 Thread Josh Luthman
I was hoping there was a better dual pol antenna then the ARC ones, actually
=/

They're a good 2 feet tall IIRC.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net 
dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote:

 Yep..

 Dual r52N cards in a Dual-Pol Arc Enclosure.  We can build, test and
 even put a base configuration on it for you if you wish.  Just plug them
 in and aim them at each other :)

 * ---
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 WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/
 Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
 WISPA Vendor Member*
 *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net
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 Josh Luthman wrote:
  I would like to use MikroTik to create a fdx link that's going across a
  stadium (that's a bit more then 100 yards).  I'm thinking about looking
 for
  some small dual pol antennas best case or the ARC ones worst case (as
  they're monstrous).
 
  I'll probably end up using the Compex wlm54ag at 5ghz cards and a 433ah.
 
  There will be voice and video traffic across this link, which is why I'd
  prefer to do fdx.
 
  Can anyone suggest a better alternative?  Anyone know of some good
 antennas
  for this?
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
  improbable, must be the truth.
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Re: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas

2009-06-09 Thread lakeland
You won't find dual pol smaller than 2'

If you do I would like to see it

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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:42:21 
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas


I would like to use MikroTik to create a fdx link that's going across a
stadium (that's a bit more then 100 yards).  I'm thinking about looking for
some small dual pol antennas best case or the ARC ones worst case (as
they're monstrous).

I'll probably end up using the Compex wlm54ag at 5ghz cards and a 433ah.

There will be voice and video traffic across this link, which is why I'd
prefer to do fdx.

Can anyone suggest a better alternative?  Anyone know of some good antennas
for this?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle



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Re: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas

2009-06-09 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:42 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote:
 I would like to use MikroTik to create a fdx link that's going across a
 stadium (that's a bit more then 100 yards).  I'm thinking about looking for
 some small dual pol antennas best case or the ARC ones worst case (as
 they're monstrous).

Josh, at that distance, you may get away with nothing more than simple
range extender antennas.  I'm assuming you will have good LOS
(including clear Fresnel).  

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Re: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas

2009-06-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Can you show me an example of range extender antennas?

Top of the stadium on both sides, we'll be fine =)

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On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:42 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote:
  I would like to use MikroTik to create a fdx link that's going across a
  stadium (that's a bit more then 100 yards).  I'm thinking about looking
 for
  some small dual pol antennas best case or the ARC ones worst case (as
  they're monstrous).

 Josh, at that distance, you may get away with nothing more than simple
 range extender antennas.  I'm assuming you will have good LOS
 (including clear Fresnel).

 --
 
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Re: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas

2009-06-09 Thread can...@believewireless.net
MTI has a dual-pol 23dBi panel as well.

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Butch Evansbut...@butchevans.com wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:42 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote:
 I would like to use MikroTik to create a fdx link that's going across a
 stadium (that's a bit more then 100 yards).  I'm thinking about looking for
 some small dual pol antennas best case or the ARC ones worst case (as
 they're monstrous).

 Josh, at that distance, you may get away with nothing more than simple
 range extender antennas.  I'm assuming you will have good LOS
 (including clear Fresnel).

 --
 
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