Re: [WISPA] Long Cat5 Run

2009-12-07 Thread 3-dB Networks
I once had a Tranzeo radio running at near 500ft of cable, at 100 Base full,
with no problems.  Granted it was Belden 7919 Shielded Cable... it was a
backhaul for my house and didn't have issue with the cable (getting the
radio to deal with the noise floor was a separate issue :-)

FWIW... I've run many radios to 350ft on 802.3af power and 24v PoE with no
issues.  I of course try to avoid it, but I often wonder if those
recommendations were for CAT5 cable, and 5e allows you to stretch a little
bit further...

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 12:39 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Long Cat5 Run

Voltage won't be a problem.  http://www.wisp-router.com/poecalculator.php

At 320 feet you should be OK with the Ethernet timing.  I have done 340 with
48v Ceragon (that's AirMux FYI) gear.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
--- Albert Einstein


On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 Confusing info on the net so I guess I better ask.



 I need to run a Cat5 line near 320 feet.  I know that over 300 could cause
 issues but if I put my PoE switch about 20 or 30 feet in and then run the
 rest of the way, will we be golden or will we risk attenuation?  Seems to
 be
 confusion on the net over use of switch curing the attenuation.
 Personally
 I think the switch will make it all cool, just want to make sure.



 I use outdoor, solid core, shielded, flooded cable with static drain.
 Running it to a Mikrotik 600a using 4 R52N cards.



 Another thought, running 48v though 290 feet of solid core Cat5  Do ya
 think I'll have enough juice the end of the run to power up that 600a and
 the 4 R52N's?



  Just so ya know.











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Re: [WISPA] Long Cat5 Run

2009-12-07 Thread os10rules
The important specs are twists per foot and capacitance per foot with the 
capacitance being the most important. The lower the capacitance per foot the 
lower the attenuation and the lower the crosstalk (because there is capacitive 
interaction with neighboring pairs as well). If you can find a cable with lower 
capacitance per foot you can go further.

Greg

On Dec 7, 2009, at 8:37 AM, 3-dB Networks wrote:

 I once had a Tranzeo radio running at near 500ft of cable, at 100 Base full,
 with no problems.  Granted it was Belden 7919 Shielded Cable... it was a
 backhaul for my house and didn't have issue with the cable (getting the
 radio to deal with the noise floor was a separate issue :-)
 
 FWIW... I've run many radios to 350ft on 802.3af power and 24v PoE with no
 issues.  I of course try to avoid it, but I often wonder if those
 recommendations were for CAT5 cable, and 5e allows you to stretch a little
 bit further...
 
 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 12:39 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Long Cat5 Run
 
 Voltage won't be a problem.  http://www.wisp-router.com/poecalculator.php
 
 At 320 feet you should be OK with the Ethernet timing.  I have done 340 with
 48v Ceragon (that's AirMux FYI) gear.
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
 --- Albert Einstein
 
 
 On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
 
 Confusing info on the net so I guess I better ask.
 
 
 
 I need to run a Cat5 line near 320 feet.  I know that over 300 could cause
 issues but if I put my PoE switch about 20 or 30 feet in and then run the
 rest of the way, will we be golden or will we risk attenuation?  Seems to
 be
 confusion on the net over use of switch curing the attenuation.
 Personally
 I think the switch will make it all cool, just want to make sure.
 
 
 
 I use outdoor, solid core, shielded, flooded cable with static drain.
 Running it to a Mikrotik 600a using 4 R52N cards.
 
 
 
 Another thought, running 48v though 290 feet of solid core Cat5  Do ya
 think I'll have enough juice the end of the run to power up that 600a and
 the 4 R52N's?
 
 
 
 Just so ya know.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[WISPA] Long Cat5 Run

2009-12-06 Thread Robert West
Confusing info on the net so I guess I better ask.  

 

I need to run a Cat5 line near 320 feet.  I know that over 300 could cause
issues but if I put my PoE switch about 20 or 30 feet in and then run the
rest of the way, will we be golden or will we risk attenuation?  Seems to be
confusion on the net over use of switch curing the attenuation.   Personally
I think the switch will make it all cool, just want to make sure.

 

I use outdoor, solid core, shielded, flooded cable with static drain.
Running it to a Mikrotik 600a using 4 R52N cards.  

 

Another thought, running 48v though 290 feet of solid core Cat5  Do ya
think I'll have enough juice the end of the run to power up that 600a and
the 4 R52N's?

 

 Just so ya know.

 

 




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Re: [WISPA] Long Cat5 Run

2009-12-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Voltage won't be a problem.  http://www.wisp-router.com/poecalculator.php

At 320 feet you should be OK with the Ethernet timing.  I have done 340 with
48v Ceragon (that's AirMux FYI) gear.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
--- Albert Einstein


On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 Confusing info on the net so I guess I better ask.



 I need to run a Cat5 line near 320 feet.  I know that over 300 could cause
 issues but if I put my PoE switch about 20 or 30 feet in and then run the
 rest of the way, will we be golden or will we risk attenuation?  Seems to
 be
 confusion on the net over use of switch curing the attenuation.
 Personally
 I think the switch will make it all cool, just want to make sure.



 I use outdoor, solid core, shielded, flooded cable with static drain.
 Running it to a Mikrotik 600a using 4 R52N cards.



 Another thought, running 48v though 290 feet of solid core Cat5  Do ya
 think I'll have enough juice the end of the run to power up that 600a and
 the 4 R52N's?



  Just so ya know.








 
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