[WISPA] Need UPS recommendations
Looking for a UPS with SNMP that can send me a loss of AC power alert and power up the backhand radio for maybe 5-10 minutes. Worse case scenario on the radio will 80 watts of draw at 110 vac. Other option would be a basic ups and an external monitoring device. Need something economical because I need to do about 50 sites. Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Need UPS recommendations
Can you do a DC solution? APC is very inefficient, but it's a quick and easy setup. Plug in a card, plug in your 110vac stuff and done. DC solution will get you way more hours for the same battery capacity, but you'll need to do some work. If you're doing 50 sites at customer houses and such, maybe just a SiteMonitor+APC accessory and a cheap APC from Staples? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Bob M lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Looking for a UPS with SNMP that can send me a loss of AC power alert and power up the backhand radio for maybe 5-10 minutes. Worse case scenario on the radio will 80 watts of draw at 110 vac. Other option would be a basic ups and an external monitoring device. Need something economical because I need to do about 50 sites. Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Need UPS recommendations
Something like that for a CPE setup would be nice. Powers the radio, router and ATA (preferably at least some of those units are integrated) for a few hours. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Bob M lakel...@gbcx.net To: Wispa wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 12:06:14 PM Subject: [WISPA] Need UPS recommendations Looking for a UPS with SNMP that can send me a loss of AC power alert and power up the backhand radio for maybe 5-10 minutes. Worse case scenario on the radio will 80 watts of draw at 110 vac. Other option would be a basic ups and an external monitoring device. Need something economical because I need to do about 50 sites. Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Need UPS recommendations
We started using Alpha UPS’ and we have been happy with them. You have to use your own batteries, but it’s nice that you’re not locked down to proprietary batteries like you are with the likes of APC and TrippLite. TrippLite also has SNMP cards you can put in some of their UPS’ if you are looking for a more complete UPS solution besides APC. Bryce D NETAGO From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 11:12 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need UPS recommendations Something like that for a CPE setup would be nice. Powers the radio, router and ATA (preferably at least some of those units are integrated) for a few hours. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL From: Bob M lakel...@gbcx.netmailto:lakel...@gbcx.net To: Wispa wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 12:06:14 PM Subject: [WISPA] Need UPS recommendations Looking for a UPS with SNMP that can send me a loss of AC power alert and power up the backhand radio for maybe 5-10 minutes. Worse case scenario on the radio will 80 watts of draw at 110 vac. Other option would be a basic ups and an external monitoring device. Need something economical because I need to do about 50 sites. Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Need UPS recommendations
Proprietary batteries??? What?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Bryce Duchcherer bduc...@netago.ca wrote: We started using Alpha UPS’ and we have been happy with them. You have to use your own batteries, but it’s nice that you’re not locked down to proprietary batteries like you are with the likes of APC and TrippLite. TrippLite also has SNMP cards you can put in some of their UPS’ if you are looking for a more complete UPS solution besides APC. Bryce D NETAGO *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Monday, December 1, 2014 11:12 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Need UPS recommendations Something like that for a CPE setup would be nice. Powers the radio, router and ATA (preferably at least some of those units are integrated) for a few hours. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Bob M lakel...@gbcx.net *To: *Wispa wireless@wispa.org *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 12:06:14 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] Need UPS recommendations Looking for a UPS with SNMP that can send me a loss of AC power alert and power up the backhand radio for maybe 5-10 minutes. Worse case scenario on the radio will 80 watts of draw at 110 vac. Other option would be a basic ups and an external monitoring device. Need something economical because I need to do about 50 sites. Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Need UPS recommendations
On 12/1/2014 1:56 PM, Bryce Duchcherer wrote: We started using Alpha UPS' and we have been happy with them. You have to use your own batteries, but it's nice that you're not locked down to proprietary batteries like you are with the likes of APC and TrippLite. TrippLite also has SNMP cards you can put in some of their UPS' if you are looking for a more complete UPS solution besides APC. You might want to try out one of those SNMP cards on your system before investing too much in them, or choosing on the basis that they exist. Just sayin' Bryce D NETAGO *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Monday, December 1, 2014 11:12 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Need UPS recommendations Something like that for a CPE setup would be nice. Powers the radio, router and ATA (preferably at least some of those units are integrated) for a few hours. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Bob M lakel...@gbcx.net mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net *To: *Wispa wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 12:06:14 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] Need UPS recommendations Looking for a UPS with SNMP that can send me a loss of AC power alert and power up the backhand radio for maybe 5-10 minutes. Worse case scenario on the radio will 80 watts of draw at 110 vac. Other option would be a basic ups and an external monitoring device. Need something economical because I need to do about 50 sites. Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Fred R. Goldstein k1iofred at interisle.net Interisle Consulting Group +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Need UPS recommendations
Only had experience with one about 8 years ago... we had to reset it about once every few months. On 12/1/14, 2:22 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: On 12/1/2014 1:56 PM, Bryce Duchcherer wrote: We started using Alpha UPS’ and we have been happy with them. You have to use your own batteries, but it’s nice that you’re not locked down to proprietary batteries like you are with the likes of APC and TrippLite. TrippLite also has SNMP cards you can put in some of their UPS’ if you are looking for a more complete UPS solution besides APC. You might want to try out one of those SNMP cards on your system before investing too much in them, or choosing on the basis that they exist. Just sayin' Bryce D NETAGO *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Monday, December 1, 2014 11:12 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Need UPS recommendations Something like that for a CPE setup would be nice. Powers the radio, router and ATA (preferably at least some of those units are integrated) for a few hours. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Bob M lakel...@gbcx.net mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net *To: *Wispa wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 12:06:14 PM *Subject: *[WISPA] Need UPS recommendations Looking for a UPS with SNMP that can send me a loss of AC power alert and power up the backhand radio for maybe 5-10 minutes. Worse case scenario on the radio will 80 watts of draw at 110 vac. Other option would be a basic ups and an external monitoring device. Need something economical because I need to do about 50 sites. Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Fred R. Goldstein k1iofred at interisle.net Interisle Consulting Group +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Need UPS recommendations
Budget? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Bob M lakel...@gbcx.netmailto:lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Looking for a UPS with SNMP that can send me a loss of AC power alert and power up the backhand radio for maybe 5-10 minutes. Worse case scenario on the radio will 80 watts of draw at 110 vac. Other option would be a basic ups and an external monitoring device. Need something economical because I need to do about 50 sites. Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Need UPS recommendations
Gino hit the nail on the head for the answer. Budget? *Kameron B.* *SightLine Wireless* *(503) 967-7222* *www.sightlinewireless.com http://www.sightlinewireless.com* On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Budget? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Bob M lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Looking for a UPS with SNMP that can send me a loss of AC power alert and power up the backhand radio for maybe 5-10 minutes. Worse case scenario on the radio will 80 watts of draw at 110 vac. Other option would be a basic ups and an external monitoring device. Need something economical because I need to do about 50 sites. Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Need UPS recommendations
$300 or so On Dec 1, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Kameron Blomquist kame...@sightlinewireless.com wrote: Gino hit the nail on the head for the answer. Budget? Kameron B. SightLine Wireless (503) 967-7222 www.sightlinewireless.com On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Budget? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Bob M lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Looking for a UPS with SNMP that can send me a loss of AC power alert and power up the backhand radio for maybe 5-10 minutes. Worse case scenario on the radio will 80 watts of draw at 110 vac. Other option would be a basic ups and an external monitoring device. Need something economical because I need to do about 50 sites. Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Need UPS recommendations
Refurb APC xl750 with apc9606 card ~$200 Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.netmailto:lakel...@gbcx.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, December 1, 2014 at 5:36 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need UPS recommendations $300 or so On Dec 1, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Kameron Blomquist kame...@sightlinewireless.commailto:kame...@sightlinewireless.com wrote: Gino hit the nail on the head for the answer. Budget? Kameron B. SightLine Wireless (503) 967-7222 www.sightlinewireless.comhttp://www.sightlinewireless.com On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Budget? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Bob M lakel...@gbcx.netmailto:lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Looking for a UPS with SNMP that can send me a loss of AC power alert and power up the backhand radio for maybe 5-10 minutes. Worse case scenario on the radio will 80 watts of draw at 110 vac. Other option would be a basic ups and an external monitoring device. Need something economical because I need to do about 50 sites. Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Need UPS recommendations
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 01:06:14PM -0500, Bob M wrote: Looking for a UPS with SNMP that can send me a loss of AC power alert and power up the backhand radio for maybe 5-10 minutes. Worst case scenario on the radio will 80 watts of draw at 110 vac. Other option would be a basic ups and an external monitoring devce. Need something economical because I need to do about 50 sites. If you have a MikroTik with a USB port at each site, you could power the MikroTik and the backhaul from an APC UPS with a USB management port. You are in business, just load the ups package in the MikroTik. We do that at several sites. Nagios and MRTG monitor the UPS status and runtime remaining via SNMP queries to the MikroTik. /system ups print oid If you only have serial on the UPS, and have a serial port on MikroTik, you may still be in business. I just haven't done that myself. Just size the UPS to get the runtime you want, probabaly using the manufacturer's website. That said, we are converting to DC only at as many tower sites as we can. We monitor power status with Nagios and MRTG via SNMP queries the MikroTiks to get the input voltage. /system health print oid If the input voltage is 27v, the site is on AC power. If the input voltage is less, the site is on battery power. We can pretty much tell how much runtime is left from the voltage. With either method, you could setup a script on the MikroTik to e-mail you about things you want to know without having to have central monitoring server. A bank of two 7 AH SLA batteries to get 24v would keep one UBNT RocketM and a MIPSBE MikroTik (about 16 to 20 Watts) running for at least 10 minutes, probably 4 to 8 hours depending on desired depth of discharge. Your 80 watt radio and a 12 watt MikroTik should run for 50 to 110 minutes, if your radio can take 24 - 30v DC. The batteries and a MeanWell AD-155B may be as inexpensive as a small APC. But, there is more assembly required. We are aiming for full site power for 8 to 24 hours, so that we can sleep through the bad nights. We use two to eight 35 AH SLA batteries. -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
