: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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All,
I have been working on that very issue for the last few weeks and will
keep you all posted.
There are a ton
the whole conference hoopla.
-Matt
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Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 6:58 PM
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Now I really wish I could make
, 2007 7:53 PM
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All,
I have been working on that very issue for the last few weeks and will
keep you all posted.
There are a ton of choices of restaurants north of the conference hotel
about 2 miles on
International Drive but I
AM
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Referral system.
Marketing via door hangers and signs.
PR.
Guerrilla marketing.
Smith, Rick wrote:
OK Marlon, how're you getting those customers to know about the choice
you offer ?
As a guy who's promising investors around 500
Dawn,
Looking forward to seeing the two of you again as well as everyone else. I
will be in the LaunchPad Pavilion (J) promoting our Secure Email Plus with
our partner provider Postini.
Frank Muto
President
FSM Marketing Group, Inc
www.SecureEmailPlus.com
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Frank,
It will be a pleasure to see you again also. I am sure this will be a
great show.
Regards,
Dawn DiPietro
Frank Muto wrote:
Dawn,
Looking forward to seeing the two of you again as well as everyone
else. I will be in the LaunchPad Pavilion (J) promoting our Secure
Email Plus with
The poker game would have been a lot better if someone would have had
actual chips. ;)
It may be that I knew fewer people at that last 2 ISPCONs but it seemed
to me that the WISPCON folks do a lot more socializing than the ISPCON
crowd does.
Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless
Peter R.
That might not be all bad! :-)
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Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 12:33 PM
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The poker game would have been
: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 12:33 PM
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The poker game would have been a lot better if someone would have had actual
chips. ;)
It may be that I knew fewer people at that last 2 ISPCONs but it seemed to
me
conference hoopla.
-Matt
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Now I really wish I could make it in May
Of Sam Tetherow
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 12:33 PM
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The poker game would have been a lot better if someone would have
had actual
chips. ;)
It may be that I knew fewer people at that last 2 ISPCONs
Dawn,
Are you and Ken going to ISPCON?
Mac Dearman
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All,
I have been working
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's (shows)
All,
I have been working on that very issue for the last few weeks and will
keep you all posted.
There are a ton of choices of restaurants north of the conference hotel
about 2 miles on
International Drive but I have no prior experience
Jack Brandt at Register.com picked up the tab for the sandwiches and beer.
I bought the pizza.
Jack and I are speaking together at one of the sessions.
ISP-CEO is worth the price of admission alone.
BTW, do you have the notes on the Google search money machine?
Regards,
Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc.
Peter,
I am the one that brought up the Google Search money machine... what
would you like to know? :)
Travis
Microserv
Peter R. wrote:
Jack Brandt at Register.com picked up the tab for the sandwiches and
beer.
I bought the pizza.
Jack and I are speaking together at one of the sessions.
12:24 AM
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Unfortunately, WISPCON has not evolved with the industry...
By attendance, maybe he hasn't. But I'd argue, he's attempting to. His show
topics were very different than previous shows, attempting to evolve/expand
to the enw relevent
] Wireless ISP's
Unfortunately, WISPCON has not evolved with the industry...
By attendance, maybe he hasn't. But I'd argue, he's attempting to. His show
topics were very different than previous shows, attempting to evolve/expand
to the enw relevent market segments which utilize Wireless
Who's credit is used?
Does the customer do the leasing?
Are they signing a lease agreement?
If so, what happens if they have bad credit?
- Peter
Travis Johnson wrote:
And thus my argument (and proof of concept) for leasing the CPE...
going on 5 years now with leasing and we could do 1,000
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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All different companies... whoever has the best deal at the time.
CitiCapital
GE
Avalon
LEAF Financial
and many others
Travis
Microserv
This is all thru our company. We own the equipment when the lease is
over. Right now, after doing this for 5 years, we still have about 85%
of our original CPE in the field.
Travis
Microserv
Peter R. wrote:
Who's credit is used?
Does the customer do the leasing?
Are they signing a lease
Referral system.
Marketing via door hangers and signs.
PR.
Guerrilla marketing.
Smith, Rick wrote:
OK Marlon, how're you getting those customers to know about the choice
you offer ?
As a guy who's promising investors around 500 customers / year, I'm
starting to look seriously into how to get
I ride both sides of this fence
I started out leasing all of my CPE in March 2004 and for the next 24
months did more leases when we needed more CPE, buying 100 at a time.
We reached a point where it looked like it didn't make a lot of sense to
continue the leasing. The rates were
30, 2007 7:10 PM
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Where did you hear this Matt?
Matt wrote:
I was just wandering. I have heard that wireless ISP's are on the
decline and most of the ones that remain are selling out or just
holding there own. Is that true? I heard
of people having great luck with door hangers or agreements
with computer repair folks.
marlon
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Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:58 PM
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OK Marlon, how're you
He heard it from Bullit I'm sure, who was making excuses for the decline
in attendance ?
No I did not. I heard it from another wisp. I actually wanted to go
in the worst way but was way to busy.
Matt
I dunno, I never found much need for shows. Not enough time to go away
for 3 days.
--
Matt wrote:
No I did not. I heard it from another wisp. I actually wanted to go
in the worst way but was way to busy.
Matt
Bullit sent WISPA over 5 free passes. We offered them around, not sure
if they all went or not.
I think what was heard the most was, I would go if I had time, I
that failed in spite of amazing growth? grin
marlon
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From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 9:32 AM
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Wow... that's not the right attitude for a business that once
heard of people having great luck with door hangers or
agreements with computer repair folks.
marlon
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:58 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's
OK Marlon
Of Matt
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 5:04 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's
I was just wandering. I have heard that wireless ISP's are on the
decline and most of the ones that remain are selling out or just
holding there own. Is that true? I heard there were not as many
IMO, a lot of it has to do with changes within the industry and the perception
of what a WISP is...
The technical definition of a WISP is a Wireless Internet Service Provider, or
anyone who puts a stick up somewhere (tower, AP, etc) and delivers broadband
service via wireless medium to
As WISPs get more educated and mature there is less for them to learn at the
shows, and harder for them to leave their demanding business growth.
Tom,
I would disagree with you on this statement and challenge you by pointing out
that your educational needs have evolved from what's an antenna
WiNOG on the west side of the country would be good... ;)
Park City, Utah
Las Vegas
San Jose
Anything soon?
Travis
Microserv
Charles Wu wrote:
As WISPs get more educated and mature there is less for them to learn at the
shows, and harder for them to leave their demanding business growth.
Anywhere but San Jose! I have multiple shows/year there and I'm sick of it!
:-)
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Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:28 AM
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WiNOG
, March 30, 2007 9:57 PM
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I don't know who told you that. We had our best growth and highest earning
year last year and this year looks to break that record. Most WISPs I talk
to say the same.
Scriv
Matt wrote:
I was just wandering. I have heard
] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:54 PM
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Yeah.
We're teeny tiny yet. I put in about 80 radios last year. Some were
new some were repairs or upgrades etc. We ended up with a net of 52 new
subs when it all
If I got to a show I ask myself the question most probably ask. What am
I going to learn from this?
I don't want to go just to hear about new products. I want to go and
actually learn things I can apply when I get back home. When we were at the
last WISPCON about 6 or 7 of us sat around
DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:10 AM
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As WISPs get more educated and mature
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From: Smith, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:58 PM
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OK Marlon, how're you getting those customers to know about the choice
you offer ?
As a guy who's promising investors
I was just wandering. I have heard that wireless ISP's are on the
decline and most of the ones that remain are selling out or just
holding there own. Is that true? I heard there were not as many at
the last wispcon due to that.
Matt
--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Where did you hear this Matt?
Matt wrote:
I was just wandering. I have heard that wireless ISP's are on the
decline and most of the ones that remain are selling out or just
holding there own. Is that true? I heard there were not as many at
the last wispcon due to that.
Matt
--
WISPA
There weren't that many at the last WISPCON because of the peckerhead
who runs WISPCON
JohnnyO
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 5:04 PM
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I was just
] Wireless ISP's
I was just wandering. I have heard that wireless ISP's are on the
decline and most of the ones that remain are selling out or just
holding there own. Is that true? I heard there were not as many at
the last wispcon due to that.
Matt
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WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's
I was just wandering. I have heard that wireless ISP's are on the
decline and most of the ones that remain are selling out or just
holding there own. Is that true? I heard there were not as many
General List
Subject: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's
I was just wandering. I have heard that wireless ISP's are on the
decline and most of the ones that remain are selling out or just
holding there own. Is that true? I heard there were not as many at
the last wispcon due to that.
Matt
--
WISPA Wireless
Matt,
If that is what the buzz was at WISPCON then it sounds like they were
reaching for straws. Since they canceled the last few shows before the
most recent show maybe it just lost momentum. You might want to head to
some other industry related trade shows also to find out for yourself if
I don't know who told you that. We had our best growth and highest
earning year last year and this year looks to break that record. Most
WISPs I talk to say the same.
Scriv
Matt wrote:
I was just wandering. I have heard that wireless ISP's are on the
decline and most of the ones that
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