Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop

2006-09-07 Thread David E. Smith
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

 It also has no PCMCIA slot! 
 It's got a slot that's the right size but the connections inside the
 slot are all wrong.

That's probably an ExpressCard slot. Welcome to the bleeding edge. :)

 I need to find an external wireless card that I can hook a cable to and
 get actual dB data from various antennas.

I'm not sure such a creature exists yet. I suspect most laptops that
have the new ExpressCard slot also have built-in wireless, so there
isn't a perceived market for it.

 Anyone have any idea what this is and/or what I can do to make this work?

Well, if you're so inclined, chances are the laptop has a mini-PCI slot
(if you've got onboard wireless, it definitely does). In theory, you
could drill a little teensy hole in the mini-PCI slot cover, and run a
pigtail out from the onboard wireless card to an external antenna. It'd
look awfully ghetto but it'd probably work.

(Disclaimer: This is a crazy idea. David Smith, his boss, and MVN take
no responsibility for this. Void where prohibited. Do not taunt Happy
Fun Ball.)

David Smith
MVN.net
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RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop

2006-09-07 Thread Larry A Weidig
Marlon:
That is the new ExpressCard format that you have on the Dell.
Unfortunately finding cards for it is a waste of time at this point,
hopefully that will change in the near future.  I think what you are
looking for is:

http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_42products_id=297
Hope that helps.

* Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
* Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
* (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
* (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:03 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop

I really don't want something like that.  I want either a radio that
fits 
the slot or a usb radio

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:51 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop



http://sewelldirect.com/usb-to-pcmcia-wireless-adapter.asp?adpath=/Googl

e/Lewis%20Gunter/06-04-04//USB%20to%20PCMCIA//47keywords=usb%20to%20pcm
 ciamatch=3search=searchgclid=CJ73gtvwm4cCFRR4UAodpHP7uA

 Marlon - you won't find them less expensive then $175.00 plus
shipping.
 Just went through this for a customer.

 Cheaper isn't always better :)~

 Fyi - this is the only fix you'll find for your dilema - customer of
 ours needed to use their aircards.

 JohnnyO

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:39 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Cc: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com
 Subject: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop


 Hi All,

 I FINALLY had my old laptop go nuts.  Some kind of hard drive error.
So
 I
 have a new one here now.  It's a cheapo Dell.  Has no firewire but I
can

 live with that, don't use it anyway.  It also has no PCMCIA slot!
It's
 got
 a slot that's the right size but the connections inside the slot are
all

 wrong.

 I need to find an external wireless card that I can hook a cable to
and
 get
 actual dB data from various antennas.

 Anyone have any idea what this is and/or what I can do to make this
 work?

 thanks,
 Marlon
 (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
 42846865 (icq)And I run my own
wisp!
 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
 www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
 www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop

2006-09-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sorry but that's NOT what I'm after.  I need a dB readout of the signal 
levels (use that often for troubleshooting).  This seems to only give out a 
% (not gonna have a +27dB signal like their manual shows).


Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: Larry A Weidig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:32 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop


Marlon:
That is the new ExpressCard format that you have on the Dell.
Unfortunately finding cards for it is a waste of time at this point,
hopefully that will change in the near future.  I think what you are
looking for is:

http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_42products_id=297
Hope that helps.

* Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
* Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
* (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
* (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:03 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop

I really don't want something like that.  I want either a radio that
fits
the slot or a usb radio

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:51 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop





http://sewelldirect.com/usb-to-pcmcia-wireless-adapter.asp?adpath=/Googl



e/Lewis%20Gunter/06-04-04//USB%20to%20PCMCIA//47keywords=usb%20to%20pcm

ciamatch=3search=searchgclid=CJ73gtvwm4cCFRR4UAodpHP7uA

Marlon - you won't find them less expensive then $175.00 plus

shipping.

Just went through this for a customer.

Cheaper isn't always better :)~

Fyi - this is the only fix you'll find for your dilema - customer of
ours needed to use their aircards.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On

Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:39 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Cc: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com
Subject: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop


Hi All,

I FINALLY had my old laptop go nuts.  Some kind of hard drive error.

So

I
have a new one here now.  It's a cheapo Dell.  Has no firewire but I

can


live with that, don't use it anyway.  It also has no PCMCIA slot!

It's

got
a slot that's the right size but the connections inside the slot are

all


wrong.

I need to find an external wireless card that I can hook a cable to

and

get
actual dB data from various antennas.

Anyone have any idea what this is and/or what I can do to make this
work?

thanks,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own

wisp!

64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop

2006-09-07 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
Just keep the laptop home for nice use... and buy one of these for those
site surveys, etc...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ITRONIX-IX260-GOBOOK-II-RUGGED-LAPTOP-1-8GHz-512MB-40GB_W0QQitemZ280025331886QQihZ018QQcategoryZ177QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

:)

Some older versions, like the IX250, have outdoor viewable screens, can be
dropped without damage, etc, and you can buy them for 300 or less.

I like the touchscreen too.

I have an older version that's tough as nails, has a double pc card slot...
but limited RAM.   I find the combination of WIN98SE and netstumbler too
unstable with the drivers for an Orinoco card to be useful for site surveys,
however.   If I could find something that would work,  this would be a great
tool.I've dropped it several times already and it's been stepped on and
kicked around, and bounced around the van a bit and seems utterly unfazed by
it all.

I didn't lose much, though.   The laptop cost me just a bit more than a new
pc card :)   If I recall, it was under $100 with shipping.






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- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop


 Sorry but that's NOT what I'm after.  I need a dB readout of the signal
 levels (use that often for troubleshooting).  This seems to only give out
a
 % (not gonna have a +27dB signal like their manual shows).

 Marlon
 (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
 www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
 www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry A Weidig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:32 AM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop


 Marlon:
 That is the new ExpressCard format that you have on the Dell.
 Unfortunately finding cards for it is a waste of time at this point,
 hopefully that will change in the near future.  I think what you are
 looking for is:

 http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_42products_id=297
 Hope that helps.

 * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
 * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
 * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:03 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop

 I really don't want something like that.  I want either a radio that
 fits
 the slot or a usb radio

 Marlon
 (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
 www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
 www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



 - Original Message - 
 From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:51 AM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop


 
 http://sewelldirect.com/usb-to-pcmcia-wireless-adapter.asp?adpath=/Googl
 
 e/Lewis%20Gunter/06-04-04//USB%20to%20PCMCIA//47keywords=usb%20to%20pcm
  ciamatch=3search=searchgclid=CJ73gtvwm4cCFRR4UAodpHP7uA
 
  Marlon - you won't find them less expensive then $175.00 plus
 shipping.
  Just went through this for a customer.
 
  Cheaper isn't always better :)~
 
  Fyi - this is the only fix you'll find for your dilema - customer of
  ours needed to use their aircards.
 
  JohnnyO
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On
  Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
  Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:39 AM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Cc: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com
  Subject: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
 
 
  Hi All,
 
  I FINALLY had my old laptop go nuts.  Some kind of hard drive error.
 So
  I
  have a new one here now.  It's a cheapo Dell.  Has no firewire but I
 can
 
  live with that, don't use it anyway.  It also has no PCMCIA slot!
 It's
  got
  a slot that's the right size but the connections inside the slot are
 all
 
  wrong.
 
  I need to find an external wireless card that I can hook a cable to
 and
  get
  actual dB data from various antennas.
 
  Anyone have any idea what this is and/or what I can do to make this
  work?
 
  thanks,
  Marlon
  (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
  (408) 907-6910 (Vonage

Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop

2006-09-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

grin.  Not gonna buy a used one for something that important.

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: Mark Koskenmaki [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop



Just keep the laptop home for nice use... and buy one of these for those
site surveys, etc...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ITRONIX-IX260-GOBOOK-II-RUGGED-LAPTOP-1-8GHz-512MB-40GB_W0QQitemZ280025331886QQihZ018QQcategoryZ177QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

:)

Some older versions, like the IX250, have outdoor viewable screens, can be
dropped without damage, etc, and you can buy them for 300 or less.

I like the touchscreen too.

I have an older version that's tough as nails, has a double pc card 
slot...

but limited RAM.   I find the combination of WIN98SE and netstumbler too
unstable with the drivers for an Orinoco card to be useful for site 
surveys,
however.   If I could find something that would work,  this would be a 
great
tool.I've dropped it several times already and it's been stepped on 
and
kicked around, and bounced around the van a bit and seems utterly unfazed 
by

it all.

I didn't lose much, though.   The laptop cost me just a bit more than a 
new

pc card :)   If I recall, it was under $100 with shipping.






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Washington

email me at mark at neofast dot net
541-969-8200
Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net

- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop



Sorry but that's NOT what I'm after.  I need a dB readout of the signal
levels (use that often for troubleshooting).  This seems to only give out

a

% (not gonna have a +27dB signal like their manual shows).

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: Larry A Weidig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:32 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop


Marlon:
That is the new ExpressCard format that you have on the Dell.
Unfortunately finding cards for it is a waste of time at this point,
hopefully that will change in the near future.  I think what you are
looking for is:

http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_42products_id=297
Hope that helps.

* Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
* Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
* (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
* (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:03 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop

I really don't want something like that.  I want either a radio that
fits
the slot or a usb radio

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:51 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop



http://sewelldirect.com/usb-to-pcmcia-wireless-adapter.asp?adpath=/Googl

e/Lewis%20Gunter/06-04-04//USB%20to%20PCMCIA//47keywords=usb%20to%20pcm
 ciamatch=3search=searchgclid=CJ73gtvwm4cCFRR4UAodpHP7uA

 Marlon - you won't find them less expensive then $175.00 plus
shipping.
 Just went through this for a customer.

 Cheaper isn't always better :)~

 Fyi - this is the only fix you'll find for your dilema - customer of
 ours needed to use their aircards.

 JohnnyO

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:39 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Cc: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com
 Subject: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop


 Hi All,

 I FINALLY had my old laptop go nuts.  Some kind of hard drive error.
So
 I
 have a new one here now.  It's a cheapo Dell.  Has

Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop

2006-09-07 Thread Jason Hensley
Marlon, unfortunately, like others have said, you are stuck.  All of the 
Dell B series notebooks are crap like this.  I've worked on TOO many of 
them since they have come out.  I would get rid of that one and for about 
the same price, get ahold of a cheaper Acer.  They have the PCMCIA slot that 
you want and are going to be a better system compared to those cheap Dells. 
I'm a Dell and Acer reseller and I won't even sell those B series laptops to 
anyone.




- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop



grin.  Not gonna buy a used one for something that important.

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: Mark Koskenmaki [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop



Just keep the laptop home for nice use... and buy one of these for those
site surveys, etc...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ITRONIX-IX260-GOBOOK-II-RUGGED-LAPTOP-1-8GHz-512MB-40GB_W0QQitemZ280025331886QQihZ018QQcategoryZ177QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

:)

Some older versions, like the IX250, have outdoor viewable screens, can 
be

dropped without damage, etc, and you can buy them for 300 or less.

I like the touchscreen too.

I have an older version that's tough as nails, has a double pc card 
slot...

but limited RAM.   I find the combination of WIN98SE and netstumbler too
unstable with the drivers for an Orinoco card to be useful for site 
surveys,
however.   If I could find something that would work,  this would be a 
great
tool.I've dropped it several times already and it's been stepped on 
and
kicked around, and bounced around the van a bit and seems utterly unfazed 
by

it all.

I didn't lose much, though.   The laptop cost me just a bit more than a 
new

pc card :)   If I recall, it was under $100 with shipping.






+++
neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East 
Washington

email me at mark at neofast dot net
541-969-8200
Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net

- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop



Sorry but that's NOT what I'm after.  I need a dB readout of the signal
levels (use that often for troubleshooting).  This seems to only give 
out

a

% (not gonna have a +27dB signal like their manual shows).

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: Larry A Weidig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:32 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop


Marlon:
That is the new ExpressCard format that you have on the Dell.
Unfortunately finding cards for it is a waste of time at this point,
hopefully that will change in the near future.  I think what you are
looking for is:

http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_42products_id=297
Hope that helps.

* Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
* Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
* (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
* (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:03 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop

I really don't want something like that.  I want either a radio that
fits
the slot or a usb radio

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
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- Original Message - 
From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:51 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop



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Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop

2006-09-07 Thread Rich Comroe
We got one of the Hawking Hi-Gain USB Wireless-G Dish Adapter just today. 
Has a 5-led signal strength display.  Great fun.  It's dish antenna is 
built-in but they may have one with an external antenna connection too.


Rich

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Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:31 AM
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Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


It also has no PCMCIA slot!
It's got a slot that's the right size but the connections inside the
slot are all wrong.


That's probably an ExpressCard slot. Welcome to the bleeding edge. :)


I need to find an external wireless card that I can hook a cable to and
get actual dB data from various antennas.


I'm not sure such a creature exists yet. I suspect most laptops that
have the new ExpressCard slot also have built-in wireless, so there
isn't a perceived market for it.


Anyone have any idea what this is and/or what I can do to make this work?


Well, if you're so inclined, chances are the laptop has a mini-PCI slot
(if you've got onboard wireless, it definitely does). In theory, you
could drill a little teensy hole in the mini-PCI slot cover, and run a
pigtail out from the onboard wireless card to an external antenna. It'd
look awfully ghetto but it'd probably work.

(Disclaimer: This is a crazy idea. David Smith, his boss, and MVN take
no responsibility for this. Void where prohibited. Do not taunt Happy
Fun Ball.)

David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop

2006-09-07 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
I KNOW you won't buy a new one.The new ones are well over 3 grand.

I would not, after getting an older version of one of these, ever consider
taking a normal laptop out in the field.These things are tough, let me
tell you.  Their resistance to damage from being knocked around is real.   I
dropped mine several feet to the carpet while running... No bad effect.

They ARE heavy, however.


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- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop


 grin.  Not gonna buy a used one for something that important.

 Marlon
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Mark Koskenmaki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop


  Just keep the laptop home for nice use... and buy one of these for those
  site surveys, etc...
 
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ITRONIX-IX260-GOBOOK-II-RUGGED-LAPTOP-1-8GHz-512MB-40GB_W0QQitemZ280025331886QQihZ018QQcategoryZ177QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
  :)
 
  Some older versions, like the IX250, have outdoor viewable screens, can
be
  dropped without damage, etc, and you can buy them for 300 or less.
 
  I like the touchscreen too.
 
  I have an older version that's tough as nails, has a double pc card
  slot...
  but limited RAM.   I find the combination of WIN98SE and netstumbler too
  unstable with the drivers for an Orinoco card to be useful for site
  surveys,
  however.   If I could find something that would work,  this would be a
  great
  tool.I've dropped it several times already and it's been stepped on
  and
  kicked around, and bounced around the van a bit and seems utterly
unfazed
  by
  it all.
 
  I didn't lose much, though.   The laptop cost me just a bit more than a
  new
  pc card :)   If I recall, it was under $100 with shipping.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
 
 
  Sorry but that's NOT what I'm after.  I need a dB readout of the signal
  levels (use that often for troubleshooting).  This seems to only give
out
  a
  % (not gonna have a +27dB signal like their manual shows).
 
  Marlon
  (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
  (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
  42846865 (icq)And I run my own
wisp!
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Larry A Weidig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:32 AM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
 
 
  Marlon:
  That is the new ExpressCard format that you have on the Dell.
  Unfortunately finding cards for it is a waste of time at this point,
  hopefully that will change in the near future.  I think what you are
  looking for is:
 
  http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_42products_id=297
  Hope that helps.
 
  * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
  * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
  * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
  Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:03 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
 
  I really don't want something like that.  I want either a radio that
  fits
  the slot or a usb radio
 
  Marlon
  (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
  (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
  42846865 (icq)And I run my own
wisp!
  64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
  www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
  www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
 
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 'WISPA

Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop

2006-09-07 Thread John Scrivner
I have asked Dave in my office to put in an order for one already. 
Hopefully we don't have 20 of us bidding against each other now!  :-)

Thanks again,
Scriv


Mark Koskenmaki wrote:


Hey John...

I'd get an older one for someone to knock around a bit to see how and what
they like / dislike about them.

The IX250 could come equipped with an outdoor readable screen (like many
PDA's have) and certain models have carry handles, too.

I took mine apart, to find that the hard drive is packed within about an
inch of some kind of silicon looking shock absorbing stuff,  the keyboard is
sealed (yeah, I dusted my wife's IBM and she had hard time forgiving
me..they keyboard went gritty for a long time).If yours gets somehow
blasted with dust or something, or the tech spills his coffee or Pepsi on
it, you can literally wash them off!

RIght now, you can find both of these on Ebay...

http://www.itronix.com/products/notebooks/gobook.asp

http://www.itronix.com/products/notebooks/gobookii.asp




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- Original Message - 
From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop


 


I will follow your lead on this Mark. Thanks for the tip. We have bought
used IBM Thinkpads for years for field use with good success but
frequent damage. These look like the answer.
Thanks,
Scriv


Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

   


I KNOW you won't buy a new one.The new ones are well over 3 grand.

I would not, after getting an older version of one of these, ever
 


consider
 


taking a normal laptop out in the field.These things are tough, let
 


me
 


tell you.  Their resistance to damage from being knocked around is real.
 


I
 


dropped mine several feet to the carpet while running... No bad effect.

They ARE heavy, however.


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Washington
 


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From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop




 


grin.  Not gonna buy a used one for something that important.

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: Mark Koskenmaki [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop




   


Just keep the laptop home for nice use... and buy one of these for
 


those
 


site surveys, etc...




 


http://cgi.ebay.com/ITRONIX-IX260-GOBOOK-II-RUGGED-LAPTOP-1-8GHz-512MB-40GB
   


_W0QQitemZ280025331886QQihZ018QQcategoryZ177QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 

 


:)

Some older versions, like the IX250, have outdoor viewable screens, can


 


be


 


dropped without damage, etc, and you can buy them for 300 or less.

I like the touchscreen too.

I have an older version that's tough as nails, has a double pc card
slot...
but limited RAM.   I find the combination of WIN98SE and netstumbler
 


too
 


unstable with the drivers for an Orinoco card to be useful for site
surveys,
however.   If I could find something that would work,  this would be a
great
tool.I've dropped it several times already and it's been stepped on
and
kicked around, and bounced around the van a bit and seems utterly


 


unfazed


 


by
it all.

I didn't lose much, though.   The laptop cost me just a bit more than a
new
pc card :)   If I recall, it was under $100 with shipping.






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- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop




 


Sorry but that's NOT what I'm after.  I need a dB readout of the
   


signal
 


levels (use that often for troubleshooting).  This seems to only give


   


out


 


a


 


% (not gonna have a +27dB signal like