RE: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

2006-12-22 Thread Patrick Leary
rules and straight up smart tactics. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal I agree that everything written in F

Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

2006-12-22 Thread Tom DeReggi
t from us, if we let them. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:20 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Council

Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

2006-12-21 Thread Blake Bowers
better than the competition? And exclusive rights? I figure that will end up in court, just as Cable TV and Telephone did. - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:20 PM Su

Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

2006-12-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
ion Movies. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Brad Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:37 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless

RE: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

2006-12-21 Thread Patrick Leary
: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 7:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal Hey try this

RE: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

2006-12-21 Thread Forbes Mercy
ber 21, 2006 5:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal Brad, There is a BIG difference. On tower agreements we do it with non-interference clauses,or we buy up all the finite resources (in some cases spectrum). Could you image what would happen if we wen

Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

2006-12-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
ice. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Brad Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:45 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless pr

Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

2006-12-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:37 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal They get exclusive rights to light poles for a mesh deployment. I'm not at all advocating these projects but at the same time I just can't see several mesh muni pr

Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

2006-12-21 Thread George Rogato
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal They have been exclusive. But that is part of the problem. Some how some people conclude that an open wholesale network

Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

2006-12-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
1, 2006 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal Tom DeReggi wrote: They have been exclusive. But that is part of the problem. Some how some people conclude that an open wholesale network gets around the legallity and intent the FCC has for unlicensed spectrum. But

Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal - exclusive

2006-12-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal - exclusive Are Exclusive MDU Access Agreements on Thin Regulatory Ice? /By Carl E. Kandutsch, Ph.D., J.D/ Good arguments can be made for and against exclusive, perpetual access. Will the use of

RE: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

2006-12-21 Thread Brad Larson
t's still a waiting game. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal Tom DeReggi wrote: > They have been exclusive.

RE: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

2006-12-21 Thread Brad Larson
s deploying and sometimes paying to be there. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal They have been exclusive

Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

2006-12-21 Thread George Rogato
Tom DeReggi wrote: They have been exclusive. But that is part of the problem. Some how some people conclude that an open wholesale network gets around the legallity and intent the FCC has for unlicensed spectrum. But I also feel it is anti-American and border line illegal for City agreements

Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal - exclusive

2006-12-21 Thread Peter R.
Are Exclusive MDU Access Agreements on Thin Regulatory Ice? /By Carl E. Kandutsch, Ph.D., J.D/ Good arguments can be made for and against exclusive, perpetual access. Will the use of exclusive access agreements between owners of multi-dwelling unit (MDU) properties and communications providers

Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

2006-12-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal Most of the Muni contracts I have worked on so far are exclusive. An RFP would have been a better way to resolve the issue. Just letting an

Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

2006-12-21 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sounds like they had some pretty valid reasons to reject the proposal. It sounded pretty onerous. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my

RE: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

2006-12-21 Thread Brad Belton
Wow...impressive! A city counsel that didn't fall for the snake oil salesman... Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 7:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Council rejects wireles

RE: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

2006-12-21 Thread Brad Larson
Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal I'm glad they recognized there would be a problem giving one person

Re: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

2006-12-21 Thread George Rogato
I'm glad they recognized there would be a problem giving one person an exclusive contract to serve the entire city, via city property. I'm especially glad they got down to the technical details of unlicensed frequency, in a public way. Of course it helps when there is a councilman who underst