Re: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
One answer only... SuperMicro.
One of the few OEMs that has consistent availabilty of specific model
Mainboards.
Alot of work goes into making distros specific to a chipset, its nice to
know it can still be gotten two years later.
We use 2U cases for everything now. Its helpful to have the three card slots
if more Ethernet ports are needed.
What models to buy depends on the need of your servers.
For Mail servers we buy the faster hardware money can buy, just because its
the most painful to nmigrate to new ahrdware down the road.
If doing Linux, we doublecheck that teh NICs and Raid controllers are
supported by the OS tools. They are not on all models.
(For example does Ethtool and Mii-tool manage the NICs adequately? Does the
System reboot properly with the specific HDD controller driver? Does the
Raid Controller work?) For Windows, just about any of the mainboards work.
The big consideration is how redundant HDD will be accomplished. Whether
you use hardware or software. Many of the SATA Promise embedded controllers
are to limiting to be useful to use, but SATA may be the right price for the
HDDs. Will you need an added Controller card?
Also avoid Rackmount appliances (Dell) that do not have options for Floppy,
CD, and/or External Ports (no controllers embedded on board). Some of them
have to have OS installed by booting off a USB key, a big pain in the neck,
when systems are down needing quick repair.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Dave Brenton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 5:35 PM
Subject: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
Hi Gang!
I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center
and would love to hear recommendations from the brave
souls out there that build their own hardware.
I'm looking for recommendations for motherboards,
rack-mount case vendors, Rack vendors, etc.
I must admit I have a bias against Intel-based systems,
but would defer to experience supporting an Intel platform.
I will in every instance be running on flavor or another of Linux
for all my OS needs, should that have a bearing on the response.
My previous experience favors ASUS motherboards, and
good name-brand memory devices. I have lost faith in most
of the Disc Drive makers, however Shugart's 5 year warranty
is tempting me in their direction.
Any thoughts, comments, etc are welcomed.
If appropriate, you may contact me of list.
Dave Brenton
General Manager
Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC
3430 Highway 49
Dover TN 37058
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
931.232.0914 (office)
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Re: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
Build two and have them mirrored. ;-)
--Mike
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We buy SuperMicro systems. They just seem to work. www.8anet.com
www.serversdirect.com www.aberdeeninc.com
We are looking at moving to a Sun or IBM Blade solution also. The biggest
advantage we see is the support, both companies have a full line of parts
in
stock about 2hrs away. When uptime is your business, it can make sense to
pay for things like 24x7x365 4hr or less response time. If we were closer
to
the parts depot I would even go to 2hr response. This is just something
you
do not get when you buy parts from newegg.com. I cannot say enough for a
redundant system either, hot standbys with automatic failover is critical.
Like I said, uptime is your business, right?
Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
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I agree get a server motherboard, both tyan and supermicro make good
server level boards (I prefer supermicro) they come with options for
ipmi management and other excellent features.
Ryan
On Aug 29, 2007, at 9:07 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
A Tyan or SuperMicro would make a better motherboard.
--Mike
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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:35 PM
Subject: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
Hi Gang!
I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center
and would love to hear recommendations from the brave
souls out there that build their own hardware.
I'm looking for recommendations for motherboards,
rack-mount case vendors, Rack vendors, etc.
I must admit I have a bias against Intel-based systems,
but would defer to experience supporting an Intel platform.
I will in every instance be running on flavor or another of Linux
for all my OS needs, should that have a bearing on the response.
My previous experience favors ASUS motherboards, and
good name-brand memory devices. I have lost faith in most
of the Disc Drive makers, however Shugart's 5 year warranty
is tempting me in their direction.
Any thoughts, comments, etc are welcomed.
If appropriate, you may contact me of list.
Dave Brenton
General Manager
Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC
3430 Highway 49
Dover TN 37058
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
Agree. Tyan and SuperMicro are almost bullet-proof!
But, read the docs before you set them up!
Mike Hammett wrote:
A Tyan or SuperMicro would make a better motherboard.
--Mike
- Original Message - From: Dave Brenton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:35 PM
Subject: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
Hi Gang!
I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center
and would love to hear recommendations from the brave
souls out there that build their own hardware.
I'm looking for recommendations for motherboards,
rack-mount case vendors, Rack vendors, etc.
I must admit I have a bias against Intel-based systems,
but would defer to experience supporting an Intel platform.
I will in every instance be running on flavor or another of Linux
for all my OS needs, should that have a bearing on the response.
My previous experience favors ASUS motherboards, and
good name-brand memory devices. I have lost faith in most
of the Disc Drive makers, however Shugart's 5 year warranty
is tempting me in their direction.
Any thoughts, comments, etc are welcomed.
If appropriate, you may contact me of list.
Dave Brenton
General Manager
Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC
3430 Highway 49
Dover TN 37058
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
931.232.0914 (office)
931.827.4181 (home)
931.627.1142 (cell - when not in cell-hell)
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Re: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
I would second the 'buy a pre-built system' option. I have built my own servers for over 10 years and honestly for production servers I would rather buy a dell or a compaq rackmount with redundant power supplies, true hardware raid and hot swap drives. If you are just starting out and on a budget I would look at ebay for older rack mounts. I have gotten DL380s for a reasonable prices and if you aren't a large ISP a DL380 dual processor P3 or P4 will easily meet your webserver, mailserver, dns server or radius server needs. They have dual power supplies, and true hardware raid with hot swap scsi drives. If you get several and use xen virtualization then total machine failure is pretty easy to deal with as well. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Ryan Langseth wrote: While I would free comfortable building my own servers (the OS setup is custom). I buy hardware from Dell. Its solid server equipment and very easy to work with. I would recommend checking into buying servers prebuilt. While building your own seems to be cheaper. there are numerous added benefits features that are found by buying prebuilt. I would suggest looking at getting a vendor account with dell, you can gain some discounts. The design of Dells rackmount hardware is terrific. Almost Hot Swap everything, tool-less (quick to replace something if you need to do it as down time), smart systems to handle cooling, remote management cards, and clear upgrade paths. Do not buy 1U imo, its expensive and you only gain 1U and an unupgradeable server. Plan your systems to last 3-5 years. Look at using some virtualization software, in the long run it will be helpful, there are numerous free versions. If you buy rack mount hardware make sure to look at the mounting rails, Dell's rails are the best I have seen. I would suggest buying a square hole rack. they are the most flexible for mounting methods. Remember to look at how you are going to run cables, you will have more than you expect. Don't forget room for backup power / batteries. Find a generator that can be powered by dual fuel (propane / Diesel) If you plan on building a data center to support sell space to business, look at cages. and a method for 24 hour access. Depending on how many servers you are planning on buying, and if you buy from a vendor. See what you can get for free from them. There is a good chapter in Oreilly's Network Warrior about power and cooling planning. As for the OS: 1) centralize the following - Logging (syslog) - Authentication (AAA) - Security (tripwire) 2) Look at putting config files in revision control (will make it easy to reverse changes) 3) Do not make Backup systems an afterthought 4) Design it with two networks (management and external) 5) Document everything, I would suggest having a Ticketing system in place for any change that gets made, nothing gets changed without a Ticket, even if you are the only person that makes changes. 6) Trending, anything that can be monitored, do it. Troubleshooting is much easier if you know what has changed. Debian is by far my favorite choice of distros. FreeBSD/OpenBSD is great for firewalls with pf and carp for redundancy. Ubuntu LTS server for anything I that I need more up to date software. Fedora has Red Hat's Directory Server (with an excellent management interface) Again, Documentation is going to be your best friend Hope that helps, Ryan On Aug 29, 2007, at 6:02 PM, Jory Privett wrote: You can get racks from lots of places. I would check with someplace local since shipping them can get expensive. For rackmount cases any good PC parts retailer should have them from 1U up to match any configuration you might want. I would suggest getting something with a common power supply. Some of the smaller units have custom ones that are not readily available if it dies. I run all of my server on the AMD platform and have for over 7 years now. I still have a couple of my original servers in production and they still perform well for their job. Compared against the Intel they perform just as well and are much cheaper. For Disk drives I would suggest Seagate or Western Digital, I am not a fan of anything else out there. Asus makes a good product but so does Gigabyte, MSI, and any other main stream manufacturer. For the OS I would run Debian. It is very flexible and secure and has lots of packages available. It is simple to install BIND for DNS, FreeRadius for AAA, Freeside for billing, and Cacti for monitoring/graphing and all of the background apps that are required. FreeBSD and Fedora are also very popular. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Dave Brenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:35 PM Subject: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions Hi Gang! I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center and would love to hear recommendations from the brave souls out
Re: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
On Wed, August 29, 2007 4:35 pm, Dave Brenton wrote: I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center and would love to hear recommendations from the brave souls out there that build their own hardware. I've done this, and I've also done the buy a pre-built system thing. The older I get, the more I prefer letting folks that do hardware all the time build the hardware for me. (If you choose to go that route, I recommend eracks.com for your rack-mount needs; reasonably priced, and they'll preinstall your favorite flavor of Linux.) Rackmount gear is especially annoying, especially 1U stuff - way too expensive for what you get. If you only need a few servers, get tower cases and save some money; if you need a lot of servers, get a Fibre Channel NAS and some blades. :) I must admit I have a bias against Intel-based systems, but would defer to experience supporting an Intel platform. I will in every instance be running on flavor or another of Linux for all my OS needs, should that have a bearing on the response. These days, that's not much of a big deal. Aside from some wireless cards (grr mutter whine) most of the stuff you're likely to use in a server will be supported. If you expect to do anything seriously CPU-intensive, these days, Intel's Core 2 line will give you more cycles per dollar than AMD. This could change tomorrow, though. For most common stuff (assuming you're building things like email or Web or RADIUS servers), there's not much practical difference. None of those will be CPU-bound anyway in most cases; RAM and swapping and hard disk speed will be more important. Even then, unless you've already got a base of hundreds of Web sites and thousands of email addresses, modern hardware won't give you any problems. My previous experience favors ASUS motherboards, and good name-brand memory devices. I have lost faith in most of the Disc Drive makers, however Shugart's 5 year warranty is tempting me in their direction. Seagate, you mean? :) No matter what brand of stuff you pick, someone will have anecdotal evidence that it's the worst stuff in the world. Go with whatever's on sale this week. :D David Smith MVN.net ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
You can get racks from lots of places. I would check with someplace local
since shipping them can get expensive. For rackmount cases any good PC parts
retailer should have them from 1U up to match any configuration you might
want. I would suggest getting something with a common power supply. Some
of the smaller units have custom ones that are not readily available if it
dies.
I run all of my server on the AMD platform and have for over 7 years now. I
still have a couple of my original servers in production and they still
perform well for their job. Compared against the Intel they perform just
as well and are much cheaper. For Disk drives I would suggest Seagate or
Western Digital, I am not a fan of anything else out there. Asus makes a
good product but so does Gigabyte, MSI, and any other main stream
manufacturer.
For the OS I would run Debian. It is very flexible and secure and has lots
of packages available. It is simple to install BIND for DNS, FreeRadius
for AAA, Freeside for billing, and Cacti for monitoring/graphing and all of
the background apps that are required. FreeBSD and Fedora are also very
popular.
Jory Privett
WCCS
- Original Message -
From: Dave Brenton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:35 PM
Subject: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
Hi Gang!
I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center
and would love to hear recommendations from the brave
souls out there that build their own hardware.
I'm looking for recommendations for motherboards,
rack-mount case vendors, Rack vendors, etc.
I must admit I have a bias against Intel-based systems,
but would defer to experience supporting an Intel platform.
I will in every instance be running on flavor or another of Linux
for all my OS needs, should that have a bearing on the response.
My previous experience favors ASUS motherboards, and
good name-brand memory devices. I have lost faith in most
of the Disc Drive makers, however Shugart's 5 year warranty
is tempting me in their direction.
Any thoughts, comments, etc are welcomed.
If appropriate, you may contact me of list.
Dave Brenton
General Manager
Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC
3430 Highway 49
Dover TN 37058
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
931.232.0914 (office)
931.827.4181 (home)
931.627.1142 (cell - when not in cell-hell)
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Re: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
While I would free comfortable building my own servers (the OS setup is custom). I buy hardware from Dell. Its solid server equipment and very easy to work with. I would recommend checking into buying servers prebuilt. While building your own seems to be cheaper. there are numerous added benefits features that are found by buying prebuilt. I would suggest looking at getting a vendor account with dell, you can gain some discounts. The design of Dells rackmount hardware is terrific. Almost Hot Swap everything, tool-less (quick to replace something if you need to do it as down time), smart systems to handle cooling, remote management cards, and clear upgrade paths. Do not buy 1U imo, its expensive and you only gain 1U and an unupgradeable server. Plan your systems to last 3-5 years. Look at using some virtualization software, in the long run it will be helpful, there are numerous free versions. If you buy rack mount hardware make sure to look at the mounting rails, Dell's rails are the best I have seen. I would suggest buying a square hole rack. they are the most flexible for mounting methods. Remember to look at how you are going to run cables, you will have more than you expect. Don't forget room for backup power / batteries. Find a generator that can be powered by dual fuel (propane / Diesel) If you plan on building a data center to support sell space to business, look at cages. and a method for 24 hour access. Depending on how many servers you are planning on buying, and if you buy from a vendor. See what you can get for free from them. There is a good chapter in Oreilly's Network Warrior about power and cooling planning. As for the OS: 1) centralize the following - Logging (syslog) - Authentication (AAA) - Security (tripwire) 2) Look at putting config files in revision control (will make it easy to reverse changes) 3) Do not make Backup systems an afterthought 4) Design it with two networks (management and external) 5) Document everything, I would suggest having a Ticketing system in place for any change that gets made, nothing gets changed without a Ticket, even if you are the only person that makes changes. 6) Trending, anything that can be monitored, do it. Troubleshooting is much easier if you know what has changed. Debian is by far my favorite choice of distros. FreeBSD/OpenBSD is great for firewalls with pf and carp for redundancy. Ubuntu LTS server for anything I that I need more up to date software. Fedora has Red Hat's Directory Server (with an excellent management interface) Again, Documentation is going to be your best friend Hope that helps, Ryan On Aug 29, 2007, at 6:02 PM, Jory Privett wrote: You can get racks from lots of places. I would check with someplace local since shipping them can get expensive. For rackmount cases any good PC parts retailer should have them from 1U up to match any configuration you might want. I would suggest getting something with a common power supply. Some of the smaller units have custom ones that are not readily available if it dies. I run all of my server on the AMD platform and have for over 7 years now. I still have a couple of my original servers in production and they still perform well for their job. Compared against the Intel they perform just as well and are much cheaper. For Disk drives I would suggest Seagate or Western Digital, I am not a fan of anything else out there. Asus makes a good product but so does Gigabyte, MSI, and any other main stream manufacturer. For the OS I would run Debian. It is very flexible and secure and has lots of packages available. It is simple to install BIND for DNS, FreeRadius for AAA, Freeside for billing, and Cacti for monitoring/graphing and all of the background apps that are required. FreeBSD and Fedora are also very popular. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Dave Brenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:35 PM Subject: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions Hi Gang! I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center and would love to hear recommendations from the brave souls out there that build their own hardware. I'm looking for recommendations for motherboards, rack-mount case vendors, Rack vendors, etc. I must admit I have a bias against Intel-based systems, but would defer to experience supporting an Intel platform. I will in every instance be running on flavor or another of Linux for all my OS needs, should that have a bearing on the response. My previous experience favors ASUS motherboards, and good name-brand memory devices. I have lost faith in most of the Disc Drive makers, however Shugart's 5 year warranty is tempting me in their direction. Any thoughts, comments, etc are welcomed. If appropriate, you may contact me of list. Dave Brenton General Manager Rural
Re: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
A Tyan or SuperMicro would make a better motherboard.
--Mike
- Original Message -
From: Dave Brenton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:35 PM
Subject: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
Hi Gang!
I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center
and would love to hear recommendations from the brave
souls out there that build their own hardware.
I'm looking for recommendations for motherboards,
rack-mount case vendors, Rack vendors, etc.
I must admit I have a bias against Intel-based systems,
but would defer to experience supporting an Intel platform.
I will in every instance be running on flavor or another of Linux
for all my OS needs, should that have a bearing on the response.
My previous experience favors ASUS motherboards, and
good name-brand memory devices. I have lost faith in most
of the Disc Drive makers, however Shugart's 5 year warranty
is tempting me in their direction.
Any thoughts, comments, etc are welcomed.
If appropriate, you may contact me of list.
Dave Brenton
General Manager
Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC
3430 Highway 49
Dover TN 37058
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
931.232.0914 (office)
931.827.4181 (home)
931.627.1142 (cell - when not in cell-hell)
Livin' on Central Stupid Time ('til October)
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Re: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
I agree get a server motherboard, both tyan and supermicro make good
server level boards (I prefer supermicro) they come with options for
ipmi management and other excellent features.
Ryan
On Aug 29, 2007, at 9:07 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
A Tyan or SuperMicro would make a better motherboard.
--Mike
- Original Message - From: Dave Brenton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:35 PM
Subject: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
Hi Gang!
I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center
and would love to hear recommendations from the brave
souls out there that build their own hardware.
I'm looking for recommendations for motherboards,
rack-mount case vendors, Rack vendors, etc.
I must admit I have a bias against Intel-based systems,
but would defer to experience supporting an Intel platform.
I will in every instance be running on flavor or another of Linux
for all my OS needs, should that have a bearing on the response.
My previous experience favors ASUS motherboards, and
good name-brand memory devices. I have lost faith in most
of the Disc Drive makers, however Shugart's 5 year warranty
is tempting me in their direction.
Any thoughts, comments, etc are welcomed.
If appropriate, you may contact me of list.
Dave Brenton
General Manager
Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC
3430 Highway 49
Dover TN 37058
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
931.232.0914 (office)
931.827.4181 (home)
931.627.1142 (cell - when not in cell-hell)
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RE: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
We buy SuperMicro systems. They just seem to work. www.8anet.com
www.serversdirect.com www.aberdeeninc.com
We are looking at moving to a Sun or IBM Blade solution also. The biggest
advantage we see is the support, both companies have a full line of parts in
stock about 2hrs away. When uptime is your business, it can make sense to
pay for things like 24x7x365 4hr or less response time. If we were closer to
the parts depot I would even go to 2hr response. This is just something you
do not get when you buy parts from newegg.com. I cannot say enough for a
redundant system either, hot standbys with automatic failover is critical.
Like I said, uptime is your business, right?
Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
320-256-WISP (9477)
320-256-9478 Fax
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ryan Langseth
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
I agree get a server motherboard, both tyan and supermicro make good
server level boards (I prefer supermicro) they come with options for
ipmi management and other excellent features.
Ryan
On Aug 29, 2007, at 9:07 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
A Tyan or SuperMicro would make a better motherboard.
--Mike
- Original Message - From: Dave Brenton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:35 PM
Subject: [WISPA] DIY Server Questions
Hi Gang!
I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center
and would love to hear recommendations from the brave
souls out there that build their own hardware.
I'm looking for recommendations for motherboards,
rack-mount case vendors, Rack vendors, etc.
I must admit I have a bias against Intel-based systems,
but would defer to experience supporting an Intel platform.
I will in every instance be running on flavor or another of Linux
for all my OS needs, should that have a bearing on the response.
My previous experience favors ASUS motherboards, and
good name-brand memory devices. I have lost faith in most
of the Disc Drive makers, however Shugart's 5 year warranty
is tempting me in their direction.
Any thoughts, comments, etc are welcomed.
If appropriate, you may contact me of list.
Dave Brenton
General Manager
Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC
3430 Highway 49
Dover TN 37058
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
931.232.0914 (office)
931.827.4181 (home)
931.627.1142 (cell - when not in cell-hell)
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