Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
That's good toknow. I do not use it anyways. We do not have the slide for it, but the water guys do. I use two or three lanyards and the ladder rungs to climb them. Its much slower climb, but I get there eventually. Scottie -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) And they are useless when the water tank is painted. The extra paint thickness causes the dimensions to change and the "brake" no longer slides on the pipe. -RickG On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Scottie Arnett wrote: > Mark, > > I am a little late on this reply, got backed up on list emailsanyways. > http://www.farwestcorrosion.com/ccpcoatings/north01.htm They are called > Saf-T-Climb. That is the type that are on the tanks we have equipment > on. > > HTH, > Scottie > > -Original Message- > From: Mark McElvy [mailto:mmce...@accubak.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:30 PM > To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) > > > I have the pipe type on one of my water towers, where do you get and > what do you call the device to connect to it? > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:31 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) > > They use that type safety(pipe with notches) on most water tanks in my > area. > > Scottie > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Chuck McCown - 3" > Reply-To: WISPA General List > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:01:50 -0700 > > >No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be > >difficult. I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the > >center > of > >the ladder with small ratchet notches in it. The arrester device was > >a > pipe > >looking thing that would slide up the safety pipe/rail. It had a > spring > >loaded dog that would engage the notches if you fell. I thought it > >was > a > >pretty good system. > >- Original Message - > >From: "3-dB Networks" > >To: "'WISPA General List'" > >Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PM > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) > > > > > >> That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you > >> should > only > >> be > >> leaning back on the cage. > >> > >> > >> > >> You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage. > >> > >> > >> > >> Daniel White > >> > >> 3-dB Networks > >> > >> http://www.3dbnetworks.com > >> > >> > >> > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > >> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > >> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) > >> > >> > >> > >> What happens when you fall? > >> > >> Brian > >> > >> John Valenti wrote: > >> > >> Brian, > >> Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage? I'm on > >> several legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just > >> lean back to take a break while climbing. > >> > >> It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in > >> the way while climbing the ladder. Just curious what your thinking > >> is, maybe I'm missing something. -John > >> > >> > >> On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center > >> of the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already > >> one on the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with > >> either a belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river > >> harness > that > >> is a little heavy). Anyone run these cable before? What is > >> needed? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >
Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
And they are useless when the water tank is painted. The extra paint thickness causes the dimensions to change and the "brake" no longer slides on the pipe. -RickG On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Scottie Arnett wrote: > Mark, > > I am a little late on this reply, got backed up on list emailsanyways. > http://www.farwestcorrosion.com/ccpcoatings/north01.htm They are called > Saf-T-Climb. That is the type that are on the tanks we have equipment on. > > HTH, > Scottie > > -Original Message- > From: Mark McElvy [mailto:mmce...@accubak.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:30 PM > To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) > > > I have the pipe type on one of my water towers, where do you get and what > do > you call the device to connect to it? > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Scottie Arnett > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:31 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) > > They use that type safety(pipe with notches) on most water tanks in my > area. > > Scottie > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Chuck McCown - 3" > Reply-To: WISPA General List > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:01:50 -0700 > > >No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be > >difficult. I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the center > of > >the ladder with small ratchet notches in it. The arrester device was a > pipe > >looking thing that would slide up the safety pipe/rail. It had a > spring > >loaded dog that would engage the notches if you fell. I thought it was > a > >pretty good system. > >----- Original Message - > >From: "3-dB Networks" > >To: "'WISPA General List'" > >Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PM > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) > > > > > >> That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you should > only > >> be > >> leaning back on the cage. > >> > >> > >> > >> You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage. > >> > >> > >> > >> Daniel White > >> > >> 3-dB Networks > >> > >> http://www.3dbnetworks.com > >> > >> > >> > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > >> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) > >> > >> > >> > >> What happens when you fall? > >> > >> Brian > >> > >> John Valenti wrote: > >> > >> Brian, > >> Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage? I'm on several > >> legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to > >> take a break while climbing. > >> > >> It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the > >> way while climbing the ladder. Just curious what your thinking is, > >> maybe I'm missing something. -John > >> > >> > >> On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of > >> the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one > >> on the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either > >> a belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness > that > >> is a little heavy). Anyone run these cable before? What is needed? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > > > >> > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > >> &
Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
Mark, I am a little late on this reply, got backed up on list emailsanyways. http://www.farwestcorrosion.com/ccpcoatings/north01.htm They are called Saf-T-Climb. That is the type that are on the tanks we have equipment on. HTH, Scottie -Original Message- From: Mark McElvy [mailto:mmce...@accubak.com] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:30 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) I have the pipe type on one of my water towers, where do you get and what do you call the device to connect to it? Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) They use that type safety(pipe with notches) on most water tanks in my area. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown - 3" Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:01:50 -0700 >No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be >difficult. I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the center of >the ladder with small ratchet notches in it. The arrester device was a pipe >looking thing that would slide up the safety pipe/rail. It had a spring >loaded dog that would engage the notches if you fell. I thought it was a >pretty good system. >- Original Message - >From: "3-dB Networks" >To: "'WISPA General List'" >Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PM >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) > > >> That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you should only >> be >> leaning back on the cage. >> >> >> >> You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage. >> >> >> >> Daniel White >> >> 3-dB Networks >> >> http://www.3dbnetworks.com >> >> >> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher >> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) >> >> >> >> What happens when you fall? >> >> Brian >> >> John Valenti wrote: >> >> Brian, >> Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage? I'm on several >> legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to >> take a break while climbing. >> >> It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the >> way while climbing the ladder. Just curious what your thinking is, >> maybe I'm missing something. -John >> >> >> On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >> >> >> >> I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of >> the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one >> on the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either >> a belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness that >> is a little heavy). Anyone run these cable before? What is needed? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > >--- - >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ >--- - > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless &
Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
Yes, Chuck has it. A similar system can be found at http://parts.valmont.com -(maintenance/saftey) Tuf-Tug Saftey-climb cable system. Midwest - 877-467-4763. Valmont now owns Pirod &Microflect. They are not cheap, but its the real tower materials. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)270-2410 e-mail: rwall...@newgenet.net rwall...@tigernet.bz -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown - 3 [mailto:ch...@beehive.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2009 03:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be difficult. I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the center of the ladder with small ratchet notches in it. The arrester device was a pipe looking thing that would slide up the safety pipe/rail. It had a spring loaded dog that would engage the notches if you fell. I thought it was a pretty good system.- Original Message - From: "3-dB Networks" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PMSubject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)> That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you should only > be> leaning back on the cage.>>>> You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage.>>>> Daniel White>> 3-dB Networks>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM> To: WISPA General List> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)>>>> What happens when you fall?>> Brian>> John Valenti wrote:>> Brian,> Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage? I'm on several> legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to> take a break while climbing.>> It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the> way while climbing the ladder. Just curious what your thinking is,> maybe I'm missing something.> -John>>> On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:>>>> I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of> the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one> on> the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either a> belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness that> is a little heavy). Anyone run these cable before? What is needed?>>>>>> > > WISPA Wants Yo u! Join today!> http://signup.wispa.org/> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe:> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/>>>>> > WISPA Wants You! Join today!> http://signup.wispa.org/> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe:> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/>> WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wirel...@wispa.orgsubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.o rg/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
I have the pipe type on one of my water towers, where do you get and what do you call the device to connect to it? Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) They use that type safety(pipe with notches) on most water tanks in my area. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown - 3" Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:01:50 -0700 >No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be >difficult. I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the center of >the ladder with small ratchet notches in it. The arrester device was a pipe >looking thing that would slide up the safety pipe/rail. It had a spring >loaded dog that would engage the notches if you fell. I thought it was a >pretty good system. >- Original Message - >From: "3-dB Networks" >To: "'WISPA General List'" >Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PM >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) > > >> That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you should only >> be >> leaning back on the cage. >> >> >> >> You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage. >> >> >> >> Daniel White >> >> 3-dB Networks >> >> http://www.3dbnetworks.com >> >> >> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher >> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) >> >> >> >> What happens when you fall? >> >> Brian >> >> John Valenti wrote: >> >> Brian, >> Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage? I'm on several >> legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to >> take a break while climbing. >> >> It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the >> way while climbing the ladder. Just curious what your thinking is, >> maybe I'm missing something. >> -John >> >> >> On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >> >> >> >> I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of >> the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one >> on >> the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either a >> belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness that >> is a little heavy). Anyone run these cable before? What is needed? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > >--- - >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ >--- - > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
They use that type safety(pipe with notches) on most water tanks in my area. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown - 3" Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:01:50 -0700 >No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be >difficult. I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the center of >the ladder with small ratchet notches in it. The arrester device was a pipe >looking thing that would slide up the safety pipe/rail. It had a spring >loaded dog that would engage the notches if you fell. I thought it was a >pretty good system. >- Original Message - >From: "3-dB Networks" >To: "'WISPA General List'" >Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PM >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) > > >> That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you should only >> be >> leaning back on the cage. >> >> >> >> You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage. >> >> >> >> Daniel White >> >> 3-dB Networks >> >> http://www.3dbnetworks.com >> >> >> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher >> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) >> >> >> >> What happens when you fall? >> >> Brian >> >> John Valenti wrote: >> >> Brian, >> Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage? I'm on several >> legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to >> take a break while climbing. >> >> It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the >> way while climbing the ladder. Just curious what your thinking is, >> maybe I'm missing something. >> -John >> >> >> On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >> >> >> >> I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of >> the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one >> on >> the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either a >> belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness that >> is a little heavy). Anyone run these cable before? What is needed? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
I think I am most likely to fall when climbing up. Foot slips off wet-icy rung and I fall forward hitting jaw/face on rung which knocks me out. It makes it hard to grab something when you are out cold. The cable sure would make it safer. Brian John Valenti wrote: It hasn't happened yet, but I'm hoping I have the good sense to stick out an arm or leg and jam myself into the cage. Probably very painful, but no long lasting damage? Usually I have a backpack on, and have to climb the ladder more vertical than normal, just to avoid dragging on the cage. So I'm thinking something will catch before falling too far. -John On Jan 7, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: What happens when you fall? Brian John Valenti wrote: Brian, Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage? I'm on several legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to take a break while climbing. It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the way while climbing the ladder. Just curious what your thinking is, maybe I'm missing something. -John On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one on the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either a belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness that is a little heavy). Anyone run these cable before? What is needed? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
Don't worry. If you fall the chances are very good that an extremity will get jammed into the ladder and you will be all nice and rolled up in a ball wedged between the cage and the ladder. And the extremity that is now broken in 10 pieces will be above where you are so the rescuers will need to get above you to disentagle you. Hence Chuck's scenario...complicated rescue. If you are not bleeding and still able to breath (and the people coming to save you don't kill you) you will probably survive. It will definately be an event you will never forget. I would hope that I would pass out from the pain. LOL -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: John Valenti Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:18:43 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) It hasn't happened yet, but I'm hoping I have the good sense to stick out an arm or leg and jam myself into the cage. Probably very painful, but no long lasting damage? Usually I have a backpack on, and have to climb the ladder more vertical than normal, just to avoid dragging on the cage. So I'm thinking something will catch before falling too far. -John On Jan 7, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > What happens when you fall? > > Brian > > John Valenti wrote: >> >> Brian, >> Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage? I'm on several >> legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to >> take a break while climbing. >> >> It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the >> way while climbing the ladder. Just curious what your thinking is, >> maybe I'm missing something. >> -John >> >> >> On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >> >> >>> I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center >>> of >>> the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one >>> on >>> the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either a >>> belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness >>> that >>> is a little heavy). Anyone run these cable before? What is needed? >>> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
It hasn't happened yet, but I'm hoping I have the good sense to stick out an arm or leg and jam myself into the cage. Probably very painful, but no long lasting damage? Usually I have a backpack on, and have to climb the ladder more vertical than normal, just to avoid dragging on the cage. So I'm thinking something will catch before falling too far. -John On Jan 7, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > What happens when you fall? > > Brian > > John Valenti wrote: >> >> Brian, >> Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage? I'm on several >> legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to >> take a break while climbing. >> >> It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the >> way while climbing the ladder. Just curious what your thinking is, >> maybe I'm missing something. >> -John >> >> >> On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >> >> >>> I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center >>> of >>> the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one >>> on >>> the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either a >>> belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness >>> that >>> is a little heavy). Anyone run these cable before? What is needed? >>> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
I have a rail safety on a Titan Tower... Regards, Chuck Hogg Avolutia, LLC 502-722-9292 ch...@avolutia.com www.avolutia.com www.shelbywireless.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 3:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) I've used one of those on a water tower. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Chuck McCown - 3" Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:01 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) > No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be > difficult. I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the center of > the ladder with small ratchet notches in it. The arrester device was a > pipe > looking thing that would slide up the safety pipe/rail. It had a spring > loaded dog that would engage the notches if you fell. I thought it was a > pretty good system. > - Original Message - > From: "3-dB Networks" > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) > > >> That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you should only >> be >> leaning back on the cage. >> >> >> >> You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage. >> >> >> >> Daniel White >> >> 3-dB Networks >> >> http://www.3dbnetworks.com >> >> >> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher >> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) >> >> >> >> What happens when you fall? >> >> Brian >> >> John Valenti wrote: >> >> Brian, >> Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage? I'm on several >> legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to >> take a break while climbing. >> >> It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the >> way while climbing the ladder. Just curious what your thinking is, >> maybe I'm missing something. >> -John >> >> >> On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >> >> >> >> I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of >> the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one >> on >> the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either a >> belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness that >> is a little heavy). Anyone run these cable before? What is needed? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
I've used one of those on a water tower. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Chuck McCown - 3" Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:01 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) > No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be > difficult. I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the center of > the ladder with small ratchet notches in it. The arrester device was a > pipe > looking thing that would slide up the safety pipe/rail. It had a spring > loaded dog that would engage the notches if you fell. I thought it was a > pretty good system. > - Original Message - > From: "3-dB Networks" > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) > > >> That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you should only >> be >> leaning back on the cage. >> >> >> >> You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage. >> >> >> >> Daniel White >> >> 3-dB Networks >> >> http://www.3dbnetworks.com >> >> >> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher >> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) >> >> >> >> What happens when you fall? >> >> Brian >> >> John Valenti wrote: >> >> Brian, >> Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage? I'm on several >> legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to >> take a break while climbing. >> >> It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the >> way while climbing the ladder. Just curious what your thinking is, >> maybe I'm missing something. >> -John >> >> >> On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >> >> >> >> I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of >> the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one >> on >> the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either a >> belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness that >> is a little heavy). Anyone run these cable before? What is needed? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be difficult. I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the center of the ladder with small ratchet notches in it. The arrester device was a pipe looking thing that would slide up the safety pipe/rail. It had a spring loaded dog that would engage the notches if you fell. I thought it was a pretty good system. - Original Message - From: "3-dB Networks" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) > That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you should only > be > leaning back on the cage. > > > > You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage. > > > > Daniel White > > 3-dB Networks > > http://www.3dbnetworks.com > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) > > > > What happens when you fall? > > Brian > > John Valenti wrote: > > Brian, > Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage? I'm on several > legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to > take a break while climbing. > > It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the > way while climbing the ladder. Just curious what your thinking is, > maybe I'm missing something. > -John > > > On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > > > > I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of > the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one > on > the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either a > belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness that > is a little heavy). Anyone run these cable before? What is needed? > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you should only be leaning back on the cage. You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) What happens when you fall? Brian John Valenti wrote: Brian, Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage? I'm on several legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to take a break while climbing. It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the way while climbing the ladder. Just curious what your thinking is, maybe I'm missing something. -John On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one on the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either a belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness that is a little heavy). Anyone run these cable before? What is needed? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
What happens when you fall? Brian John Valenti wrote: Brian, Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage? I'm on several legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to take a break while climbing. It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the way while climbing the ladder. Just curious what your thinking is, maybe I'm missing something. -John On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one on the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either a belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness that is a little heavy). Anyone run these cable before? What is needed? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
