Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

2009-03-05 Thread RickG
And they are useless when the water tank is painted. The extra paint
thickness causes the dimensions to change and the brake no longer slides
on the pipe.
-RickG

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote:

 Mark,

 I am a little late on this reply, got backed up on list emailsanyways.
 http://www.farwestcorrosion.com/ccpcoatings/north01.htm   They are called
 Saf-T-Climb. That is the type  that are on the tanks we have equipment on.

 HTH,
 Scottie

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark McElvy [mailto:mmce...@accubak.com]
 Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:30 PM
 To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)


 I have the pipe type on one of my water towers, where do you get and what
 do
 you call the device to connect to it?

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
 Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:31 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

 They use that type safety(pipe with notches) on most water tanks in my
 area.

 Scottie

 -- Original Message --
 From: Chuck McCown - 3 ch...@beehive.net
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:01:50 -0700

 No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be
 difficult.  I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the center
 of
 the ladder with small ratchet notches in it.  The arrester device was a
 pipe
 looking thing that would slide up the safety pipe/rail.  It had a
 spring
 loaded dog that would engage the notches if you fell.  I thought it was
 a
 pretty good system.
 - Original Message -
 From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
 
 
  That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you should
 only
  be
  leaning back on the cage.
 
 
 
  You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage.
 
 
 
  Daniel White
 
  3-dB Networks
 
  http://www.3dbnetworks.com
 
 
 
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
  Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
 
 
 
  What happens when you fall?
 
  Brian
 
  John Valenti wrote:
 
  Brian,
  Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage?  I'm on several
  legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to
  take a break while climbing.
 
  It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the
  way while climbing the ladder.  Just curious what your thinking is,
  maybe I'm missing something. -John
 
 
  On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
 
 
 
  I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of
  the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on.  There is already one
  on the leg that has no cage.  Then we could clip on a go, with either
  a belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness
 that
  is a little heavy).  Anyone run these cable before?  What is needed?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

2009-03-05 Thread Scottie Arnett
That's good toknow. I do not use it anyways. We do not have the slide for
it, but the water guys do. I use two or three lanyards and the ladder rungs
to climb them. Its much slower climb, but I get there eventually.

Scottie

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:46 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)


And they are useless when the water tank is painted. The extra paint
thickness causes the dimensions to change and the brake no longer slides
on the pipe. -RickG

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote:

 Mark,

 I am a little late on this reply, got backed up on list emailsanyways.
 http://www.farwestcorrosion.com/ccpcoatings/north01.htm   They are called
 Saf-T-Climb. That is the type  that are on the tanks we have equipment 
 on.

 HTH,
 Scottie

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark McElvy [mailto:mmce...@accubak.com]
 Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:30 PM
 To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)


 I have the pipe type on one of my water towers, where do you get and 
 what do you call the device to connect to it?

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
 Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:31 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

 They use that type safety(pipe with notches) on most water tanks in my 
 area.

 Scottie

 -- Original Message --
 From: Chuck McCown - 3 ch...@beehive.net
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:01:50 -0700

 No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be 
 difficult.  I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the 
 center
 of
 the ladder with small ratchet notches in it.  The arrester device was 
 a
 pipe
 looking thing that would slide up the safety pipe/rail.  It had a
 spring
 loaded dog that would engage the notches if you fell.  I thought it 
 was
 a
 pretty good system.
 - Original Message -
 From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
 
 
  That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you 
  should
 only
  be
  leaning back on the cage.
 
 
 
  You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage.
 
 
 
  Daniel White
 
  3-dB Networks
 
  http://www.3dbnetworks.com
 
 
 
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
  [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
  Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
 
 
 
  What happens when you fall?
 
  Brian
 
  John Valenti wrote:
 
  Brian,
  Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage?  I'm on 
  several legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just 
  lean back to take a break while climbing.
 
  It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in 
  the way while climbing the ladder.  Just curious what your thinking 
  is, maybe I'm missing something. -John
 
 
  On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
 
 
 
  I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center 
  of the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on.  There is already 
  one on the leg that has no cage.  Then we could clip on a go, with 
  either a belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river 
  harness
 that
  is a little heavy).  Anyone run these cable before?  What is 
  needed?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

2009-03-04 Thread Scottie Arnett
Mark,

I am a little late on this reply, got backed up on list emailsanyways.
http://www.farwestcorrosion.com/ccpcoatings/north01.htm   They are called
Saf-T-Climb. That is the type  that are on the tanks we have equipment on.

HTH,
Scottie

-Original Message-
From: Mark McElvy [mailto:mmce...@accubak.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:30 PM
To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)


I have the pipe type on one of my water towers, where do you get and what do
you call the device to connect to it?

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

They use that type safety(pipe with notches) on most water tanks in my area.

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: Chuck McCown - 3 ch...@beehive.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:01:50 -0700

No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be
difficult.  I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the center
of 
the ladder with small ratchet notches in it.  The arrester device was a
pipe 
looking thing that would slide up the safety pipe/rail.  It had a
spring 
loaded dog that would engage the notches if you fell.  I thought it was
a 
pretty good system.
- Original Message -
From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)


 That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you should
only 
 be
 leaning back on the cage.



 You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage.



 Daniel White

 3-dB Networks

 http://www.3dbnetworks.com



 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
 Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)



 What happens when you fall?

 Brian

 John Valenti wrote:

 Brian,
 Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage?  I'm on several 
 legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to 
 take a break while climbing.

 It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the 
 way while climbing the ladder.  Just curious what your thinking is, 
 maybe I'm missing something. -John


 On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:



 I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of 
 the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on.  There is already one 
 on the leg that has no cage.  Then we could clip on a go, with either 
 a belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness
that
 is a little heavy).  Anyone run these cable before?  What is needed?








 
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Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

2009-01-10 Thread Ron Wallace
Yes, Chuck has it. 

A similar system can be found at http://parts.valmont.com -(maintenance/saftey) 
Tuf-Tug Saftey-climb cable system. Midwest - 877-467-4763. Valmont now owns 
Pirod Microflect. They are not cheap, but its the real tower materials.

Ron Wallace
Hahnron, Inc.
220 S. Jackson Dt.
Addison, MI 49220

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-Original Message-
From: Chuck McCown - 3 [mailto:ch...@beehive.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2009 03:01 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be difficult. 
I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the center of the ladder with 
small ratchet notches in it. The arrester device was a pipe looking thing that 
would slide up the safety pipe/rail. It had a spring loaded dog that would 
engage the notches if you fell. I thought it was a pretty good system.- 
Original Message - From: 3-dB Networks To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: 
Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PMSubject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage 
(was Re: Tower accident) That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall 
basically you should only  be leaning back on the cage. You technically 
shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage. Daniel White 3-dB 
Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: 
Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re:
  [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident) What happens when 
you fall? Brian John Valenti wrote: Brian, Why would you want to add a 
safety cable to the cage? I'm on several legs with the cages and they seem 
great. I usually just lean back to take a break while climbing. It seems 
like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the way while 
climbing the ladder. Just curious what your thinking is, maybe I'm missing 
something. -John On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I 
have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of the 
ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one on the leg 
that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either a belt or a light 
harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness that is a little heavy). 
Anyone run these cable before? What is needed? 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

2009-01-08 Thread Mark McElvy
I have the pipe type on one of my water towers, where do you get and
what do you call the device to connect to it?

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

They use that type safety(pipe with notches) on most water tanks in my
area.

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: Chuck McCown - 3 ch...@beehive.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:01:50 -0700

No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be 
difficult.  I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the center
of 
the ladder with small ratchet notches in it.  The arrester device was a
pipe 
looking thing that would slide up the safety pipe/rail.  It had a
spring 
loaded dog that would engage the notches if you fell.  I thought it was
a 
pretty good system.
- Original Message - 
From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)


 That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you should
only 
 be
 leaning back on the cage.



 You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage.



 Daniel White

 3-dB Networks

 http://www.3dbnetworks.com



 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
 Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)



 What happens when you fall?

 Brian

 John Valenti wrote:

 Brian,
 Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage?  I'm on several
 legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to
 take a break while climbing.

 It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the
 way while climbing the ladder.  Just curious what your thinking is,
 maybe I'm missing something.
 -John


 On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:



 I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of
 the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on.  There is already one
 on
 the leg that has no cage.  Then we could clip on a go, with either a
 belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness
that
 is a little heavy).  Anyone run these cable before?  What is needed?








 
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Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

2009-01-07 Thread Brian Rohrbacher




What happens when you fall?

Brian

John Valenti wrote:

  Brian,
Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage?  I'm on several  
legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to  
take a break while climbing.

It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the  
way while climbing the ladder.  Just curious what your thinking is,  
maybe I'm missing something.
-John


On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

  
  
I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of
the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on.  There is already one  
on
the leg that has no cage.  Then we could clip on a go, with either a
belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness that
is a little heavy).  Anyone run these cable before?  What is needed?

  
  



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Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

2009-01-07 Thread 3-dB Networks
That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you should only be
leaning back on the cage. 

 

You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage.

 

Daniel White

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http://www.3dbnetworks.com

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

 

What happens when you fall?

Brian

John Valenti wrote: 

Brian,
Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage?  I'm on several  
legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to  
take a break while climbing.
 
It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the  
way while climbing the ladder.  Just curious what your thinking is,  
maybe I'm missing something.
-John
 
 
On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
 
  

I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of
the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on.  There is already one  
on
the leg that has no cage.  Then we could clip on a go, with either a
belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness that
is a little heavy).  Anyone run these cable before?  What is needed?


 
 
 


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Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

2009-01-07 Thread Mike Hammett
I've used one of those on a water tower.


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From: Chuck McCown - 3 ch...@beehive.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:01 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re:  Tower accident)

 No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be
 difficult.  I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the center of
 the ladder with small ratchet notches in it.  The arrester device was a 
 pipe
 looking thing that would slide up the safety pipe/rail.  It had a spring
 loaded dog that would engage the notches if you fell.  I thought it was a
 pretty good system.
 - Original Message - 
 From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)


 That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you should only
 be
 leaning back on the cage.



 You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage.



 Daniel White

 3-dB Networks

 http://www.3dbnetworks.com



 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
 Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)



 What happens when you fall?

 Brian

 John Valenti wrote:

 Brian,
 Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage?  I'm on several
 legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to
 take a break while climbing.

 It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the
 way while climbing the ladder.  Just curious what your thinking is,
 maybe I'm missing something.
 -John


 On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:



 I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of
 the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on.  There is already one
 on
 the leg that has no cage.  Then we could clip on a go, with either a
 belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness that
 is a little heavy).  Anyone run these cable before?  What is needed?





 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

2009-01-07 Thread Chuck Hogg
I have a rail safety on a Titan Tower...

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 3:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

I've used one of those on a water tower.


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From: Chuck McCown - 3 ch...@beehive.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:01 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re:  Tower accident)

 No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be
 difficult.  I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the center
of
 the ladder with small ratchet notches in it.  The arrester device was
a 
 pipe
 looking thing that would slide up the safety pipe/rail.  It had a
spring
 loaded dog that would engage the notches if you fell.  I thought it
was a
 pretty good system.
 - Original Message - 
 From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)


 That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you should
only
 be
 leaning back on the cage.



 You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage.



 Daniel White

 3-dB Networks

 http://www.3dbnetworks.com



 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
 Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)



 What happens when you fall?

 Brian

 John Valenti wrote:

 Brian,
 Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage?  I'm on several
 legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to
 take a break while climbing.

 It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the
 way while climbing the ladder.  Just curious what your thinking is,
 maybe I'm missing something.
 -John


 On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:



 I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of
 the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on.  There is already one
 on
 the leg that has no cage.  Then we could clip on a go, with either a
 belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness
that
 is a little heavy).  Anyone run these cable before?  What is needed?








 
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Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

2009-01-07 Thread John Valenti
It hasn't happened yet, but I'm hoping I have the good sense to stick  
out an arm or leg and jam myself into the cage. Probably very painful,  
but no long lasting damage?

Usually I have a backpack on, and have to climb the ladder more  
vertical than normal, just to avoid dragging on the cage. So I'm  
thinking something will catch before falling too far.
-John

On Jan 7, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

 What happens when you fall?

 Brian

 John Valenti wrote:

 Brian,
 Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage?  I'm on several
 legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to
 take a break while climbing.

 It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the
 way while climbing the ladder.  Just curious what your thinking is,
 maybe I'm missing something.
 -John


 On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


 I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center  
 of
 the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on.  There is already one
 on
 the leg that has no cage.  Then we could clip on a go, with either a
 belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness  
 that
 is a little heavy).  Anyone run these cable before?  What is needed?





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Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

2009-01-07 Thread lakeland
Don't worry. If you fall the chances are very good that an extremity will get 
jammed into the ladder and you will be all nice and rolled up in a ball wedged 
between the cage and the ladder. And the extremity that is now broken in 10 
pieces will be above where you are so the rescuers will need to get above you 
to disentagle you. Hence Chuck's scenario...complicated rescue.

If you are not bleeding and still able to breath (and the people coming to save 
you don't kill you) you will probably survive. It will definately be an event 
you will never forget.

I would hope that I would pass out from the pain. LOL

-B-


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-Original Message-
From: John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu

Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:18:43 
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re:  Tower accident)


It hasn't happened yet, but I'm hoping I have the good sense to stick  
out an arm or leg and jam myself into the cage. Probably very painful,  
but no long lasting damage?

Usually I have a backpack on, and have to climb the ladder more  
vertical than normal, just to avoid dragging on the cage. So I'm  
thinking something will catch before falling too far.
-John

On Jan 7, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

 What happens when you fall?

 Brian

 John Valenti wrote:

 Brian,
 Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage?  I'm on several
 legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to
 take a break while climbing.

 It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the
 way while climbing the ladder.  Just curious what your thinking is,
 maybe I'm missing something.
 -John


 On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


 I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center  
 of
 the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on.  There is already one
 on
 the leg that has no cage.  Then we could clip on a go, with either a
 belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness  
 that
 is a little heavy).  Anyone run these cable before?  What is needed?





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Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

2009-01-07 Thread Brian Rohrbacher




I think I am most likely to fall when climbing up. Foot slips off
wet-icy rung and I fall forward hitting jaw/face on rung which knocks
me out. It makes it hard to grab something when you are out cold. The
cable sure would make it safer.

Brian

John Valenti wrote:

  It hasn't happened yet, but I'm hoping I have the good sense to stick  
out an arm or leg and jam myself into the cage. Probably very painful,  
but no long lasting damage?

Usually I have a backpack on, and have to climb the ladder more  
vertical than normal, just to avoid dragging on the cage. So I'm  
thinking something will catch before falling too far.
-John

On Jan 7, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

  
  
What happens when you fall?

Brian

John Valenti wrote:


  Brian,
Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage?  I'm on several
legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to
take a break while climbing.

It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the
way while climbing the ladder.  Just curious what your thinking is,
maybe I'm missing something.
-John


On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


  
  
I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center  
of
the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on.  There is already one
on
the leg that has no cage.  Then we could clip on a go, with either a
belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness  
that
is a little heavy).  Anyone run these cable before?  What is needed?


  

  
  


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