Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

2008-01-16 Thread Brad Belton
Hello Bryan,

Ok, you have definitely shorter cable runs than we do.  The cable loss
settings may not be as important in your case, but why a split cable on Site
A?  Twice the chance of connector problems at Site A.  Any chance of
replacing the two cables at Site A with one LMR-400 cable?

I know this is a basic question, but have you confirmed the cables and all
RF connectors are good?

What power supplies are you using?  I'd also suggest upgrading firmware.  We
just upgraded ours today:

Site A:

(trango-view)# ver
Current Image Version
IDU FPGA version:   00100108
IDU OS version: 2p6r14b3D01110801
IDU FW version: 2p0r1D01110801
IDU PIC version:18
IDU Modem version:  40
ODU FW version: 07

Previous Image Version:
IDU FPGA version:   02080907
IDU OS version: 2p6r14b3D09120701
IDU FW version: 1p0r1D09120701
IDU PIC version:3
ODU FW version: 07
(trango-view)# cab
cable loss at 140 Mhz: 4.45 dB
cable loss at 315 Mhz: 6.76 dB
cable loss at 915 Mhz: 11.81 dB
(trango-view)#


Site B:

(trango-view)# ver
Current Image Version
IDU FPGA version:   00100108
IDU OS version: 2p6r14b3D01110801
IDU FW version: 2p0r1D01110801
IDU PIC version:18
IDU Modem version:  40
ODU FW version: 07

Previous Image Version:
IDU FPGA version:   02080907
IDU OS version: 2p6r14b3D09120701
IDU FW version: 1p0r1D09120701
IDU PIC version:3
ODU FW version: 07
(trango-view)# cab
cable loss at 140 Mhz: 5.34 dB
cable loss at 315 Mhz: 8.11 dB
cable loss at 915 Mhz: 14.17 dB
(trango-view)#


Best,



Brad



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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

Brad Belton wrote:

> If you like, please provide me the cable length and type on each end.
Then
> provide me the loss figures you have entered for each side.  We'll compare
> notes between yours and ours.
> 
> What version are you running?

Side A - 50' of LMR400 + 17' of RG58 (or 59, whatever the 50 Ohm stuff is):

Cable Loss 140: 1.20

Cable Loss 315: 2.08

Cable Loss 915: 3.45


Side B - 54' of LMR400:

Cable Loss 140: 0.70

Cable Loss 315: 1.10

Cable Loss 915: 1.96

On Both:

ATPC: Off
Rate Shift: Off
ODU RXGain: On










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Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

2008-01-16 Thread Bryan Scott
Brad Belton wrote:

> If you like, please provide me the cable length and type on each end.  Then
> provide me the loss figures you have entered for each side.  We'll compare
> notes between yours and ours.
> 
> What version are you running?

Side A - 50' of LMR400 + 17' of RG58 (or 59, whatever the 50 Ohm stuff is):

Cable Loss 140: 1.20

Cable Loss 315: 2.08

Cable Loss 915: 3.45


Side B - 54' of LMR400:

Cable Loss 140: 0.70

Cable Loss 315: 1.10

Cable Loss 915: 1.96

On Both:

ATPC: Off
Rate Shift: Off
ODU RXGain: On









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Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

2008-01-16 Thread Brad Belton
If you like, please provide me the cable length and type on each end.  Then
provide me the loss figures you have entered for each side.  We'll compare
notes between yours and ours.

What version are you running?  

Best,


Brad





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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:21 AM
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>> Just a suggestion, but I would cross reference your cable loss settings
>> with
>> the manual's guidelines.
>> 
>> Your flaky behavior could be due to the ODU being overdriven or starved
>> for
>> power.  Then again if you've already had Trango looking into this I'm
sure
>> they have already thought to double check your cable loss settings.
>> 

I've calculated the values according to Times Microwave's site and the
distances of the cable used, and it helped, but we're still seeing random
latency in ping tests across the thing.

I'll check the ATPC settings someone else mentioned; I know that we've got
rate shifting turned off.

-- Bryan






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Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

2008-01-16 Thread Bryan Scott


> - Original Message -
> From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>> Just a suggestion, but I would cross reference your cable loss settings
>> with
>> the manual's guidelines.
>> 
>> Your flaky behavior could be due to the ODU being overdriven or starved
>> for
>> power.  Then again if you've already had Trango looking into this I'm sure
>> they have already thought to double check your cable loss settings.
>> 

I've calculated the values according to Times Microwave's site and the
distances of the cable used, and it helped, but we're still seeing random
latency in ping tests across the thing.

I'll check the ATPC settings someone else mentioned; I know that we've got
rate shifting turned off.

-- Bryan





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Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

2008-01-16 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
tnx
- Original Message - 
From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link


> Just a suggestion, but I would cross reference your cable loss settings 
> with
> the manual's guidelines.
>
> Your flaky behavior could be due to the ODU being overdriven or starved 
> for
> power.  Then again if you've already had Trango looking into this I'm sure
> they have already thought to double check your cable loss settings.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:24 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>
> I wish we could say the same about the Trango.  So far nothing but flaky
> behavior and that is with -44 dBm rx signal levels.
> But this is a new product to us and there may be something we are not
> configuring properly.  Not going to count it out until the factory guys 
> have
>
> had a chance to exhaust their remedies.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>
>
>> The Trango is solid as a rock, also.
>> Trango is a great product, for a basic config, meaning 1 link, w/ 1
>> antenna
>> and radio per side, under 300mbps.
>> I was nothing but impressed with our units.
>>
>> Dragonwave currently has the lead from the perspective of supporting all
>> the
>> freq ranges in a single paltform, best adaptive modulation routines, and
>> ability to combine radios on a single antenna to double capacity.  But
>> there
>> is a price to that.  If those feature aren't needed?
>>
>> Cable Free is also a great product, if you are planning on daisy chaining
>> several links, the flexibilty and cost savings of these units are
>> fantastic.
>> Also very impressed with the overall design of their system. (Only
>> negative
>> I found was no adaptive modulation)
>>
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>>
>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> I have installed over 50 Dragonwave links in the past 24  months.  1
>>> outage the result of equipment failure and I had a replacement in my 
>>> hand
>>> the next day from Canada.
>>>
>>> Airpair goes up to 200 Meg. FD. Horizon will do 600 plus. Multiple IDU.
>>> ODU architecture. You could do 200 MB Horizon for your budget.
>>>
>>> I have no experience with the trango.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:47:10
>>> To:"WISPA General List" 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>>>
>>>
>>> I have used the Trango GigaLink and DragonWave.  DragonWave is rock
>>> solid.
>>> Never a problem.  Have several systems.
>>> We are still trying to get the Trango to play.  Lots of signal but not
>>> running well at all.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:44 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>>>
>>>
>>>> Matt,
>>>>
>>>> I would take a look at the Trango GigaLink 18ghz product. It will do
>>>> 105Mbps full-duplex (200Mbps total) for your price range and you can do
>>>> a software upgrade to 300Mbps full-duplex (600Mbps total) for about
>>>> $5,000 extra (at a later date, when you need the speed). It's an 
>>>> IDU/ODU
>>>> setup and you use LMR-400 between them.
>>>>
>>>> You could lease the 600Mbps version on a 36 month, $1 buyout for less
>>>> than you are paying for your fiber. ;)
>>>>
>>

Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

2008-01-15 Thread Brad Belton
Just a suggestion, but I would cross reference your cable loss settings with
the manual's guidelines.  

Your flaky behavior could be due to the ODU being overdriven or starved for
power.  Then again if you've already had Trango looking into this I'm sure
they have already thought to double check your cable loss settings.

Best,


Brad



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:24 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

I wish we could say the same about the Trango.  So far nothing but flaky 
behavior and that is with -44 dBm rx signal levels.
But this is a new product to us and there may be something we are not 
configuring properly.  Not going to count it out until the factory guys have

had a chance to exhaust their remedies.

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link


> The Trango is solid as a rock, also.
> Trango is a great product, for a basic config, meaning 1 link, w/ 1 
> antenna
> and radio per side, under 300mbps.
> I was nothing but impressed with our units.
>
> Dragonwave currently has the lead from the perspective of supporting all 
> the
> freq ranges in a single paltform, best adaptive modulation routines, and
> ability to combine radios on a single antenna to double capacity.  But 
> there
> is a price to that.  If those feature aren't needed?
>
> Cable Free is also a great product, if you are planning on daisy chaining
> several links, the flexibilty and cost savings of these units are 
> fantastic.
> Also very impressed with the overall design of their system. (Only 
> negative
> I found was no adaptive modulation)
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>
>
>> Matt
>>
>> I have installed over 50 Dragonwave links in the past 24  months.  1
>> outage the result of equipment failure and I had a replacement in my hand
>> the next day from Canada.
>>
>> Airpair goes up to 200 Meg. FD. Horizon will do 600 plus. Multiple IDU.
>> ODU architecture. You could do 200 MB Horizon for your budget.
>>
>> I have no experience with the trango.
>>
>> Bob
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:47:10
>> To:"WISPA General List" 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>>
>>
>> I have used the Trango GigaLink and DragonWave.  DragonWave is rock 
>> solid.
>> Never a problem.  Have several systems.
>> We are still trying to get the Trango to play.  Lots of signal but not
>> running well at all.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>>
>>
>>> Matt,
>>>
>>> I would take a look at the Trango GigaLink 18ghz product. It will do
>>> 105Mbps full-duplex (200Mbps total) for your price range and you can do
>>> a software upgrade to 300Mbps full-duplex (600Mbps total) for about
>>> $5,000 extra (at a later date, when you need the speed). It's an IDU/ODU
>>> setup and you use LMR-400 between them.
>>>
>>> You could lease the 600Mbps version on a 36 month, $1 buyout for less
>>> than you are paying for your fiber. ;)
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I am looking for a licensed link to replace a fiber connection.   I am
>>>> currently paying for a 100meg fiber connection between two of my towers
>>>> and would like to replace it with my own infrastructure.  I own the
>>>> towers on both sides, there is plenty of LOS and the link distance is
>>>> 2.9 miles.  The connection currently peaks out at about 30 meg, but I'm
>>>> planning to put remote backup servers on the far side, so I'd like to 
>>>> be
>>>> able to maintain 100meg speeds.
>>>

Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

2008-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
I wish we could say the same about the Trango.  So far nothing but flaky 
behavior and that is with -44 dBm rx signal levels.
But this is a new product to us and there may be something we are not 
configuring properly.  Not going to count it out until the factory guys have 
had a chance to exhaust their remedies.

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link


> The Trango is solid as a rock, also.
> Trango is a great product, for a basic config, meaning 1 link, w/ 1 
> antenna
> and radio per side, under 300mbps.
> I was nothing but impressed with our units.
>
> Dragonwave currently has the lead from the perspective of supporting all 
> the
> freq ranges in a single paltform, best adaptive modulation routines, and
> ability to combine radios on a single antenna to double capacity.  But 
> there
> is a price to that.  If those feature aren't needed?
>
> Cable Free is also a great product, if you are planning on daisy chaining
> several links, the flexibilty and cost savings of these units are 
> fantastic.
> Also very impressed with the overall design of their system. (Only 
> negative
> I found was no adaptive modulation)
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>
>
>> Matt
>>
>> I have installed over 50 Dragonwave links in the past 24  months.  1
>> outage the result of equipment failure and I had a replacement in my hand
>> the next day from Canada.
>>
>> Airpair goes up to 200 Meg. FD. Horizon will do 600 plus. Multiple IDU.
>> ODU architecture. You could do 200 MB Horizon for your budget.
>>
>> I have no experience with the trango.
>>
>> Bob
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:47:10
>> To:"WISPA General List" 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>>
>>
>> I have used the Trango GigaLink and DragonWave.  DragonWave is rock 
>> solid.
>> Never a problem.  Have several systems.
>> We are still trying to get the Trango to play.  Lots of signal but not
>> running well at all.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>>
>>
>>> Matt,
>>>
>>> I would take a look at the Trango GigaLink 18ghz product. It will do
>>> 105Mbps full-duplex (200Mbps total) for your price range and you can do
>>> a software upgrade to 300Mbps full-duplex (600Mbps total) for about
>>> $5,000 extra (at a later date, when you need the speed). It's an IDU/ODU
>>> setup and you use LMR-400 between them.
>>>
>>> You could lease the 600Mbps version on a 36 month, $1 buyout for less
>>> than you are paying for your fiber. ;)
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I am looking for a licensed link to replace a fiber connection.   I am
>>>> currently paying for a 100meg fiber connection between two of my towers
>>>> and would like to replace it with my own infrastructure.  I own the
>>>> towers on both sides, there is plenty of LOS and the link distance is
>>>> 2.9 miles.  The connection currently peaks out at about 30 meg, but I'm
>>>> planning to put remote backup servers on the far side, so I'd like to 
>>>> be
>>>> able to maintain 100meg speeds.
>>>>
>>>> I am interested in finding out what kind of radios people are using for
>>>> this type of link.  The fiber connection costs me $500/month, and I'd
>>>> like to be able to pay for the link within 2.5 years, so that puts a
>>>> $12-15K  price range on it.Vendors, feel free to contact me 
>>>> off-list
>>>> about this one.
>>>>
>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---

Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

2008-01-15 Thread Tom DeReggi
The Trango is solid as a rock, also.
Trango is a great product, for a basic config, meaning 1 link, w/ 1 antenna 
and radio per side, under 300mbps.
I was nothing but impressed with our units.

Dragonwave currently has the lead from the perspective of supporting all the 
freq ranges in a single paltform, best adaptive modulation routines, and 
ability to combine radios on a single antenna to double capacity.  But there 
is a price to that.  If those feature aren't needed?

Cable Free is also a great product, if you are planning on daisy chaining 
several links, the flexibilty and cost savings of these units are fantastic. 
Also very impressed with the overall design of their system. (Only negative 
I found was no adaptive modulation)

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link


> Matt
>
> I have installed over 50 Dragonwave links in the past 24  months.  1 
> outage the result of equipment failure and I had a replacement in my hand 
> the next day from Canada.
>
> Airpair goes up to 200 Meg. FD. Horizon will do 600 plus. Multiple IDU. 
> ODU architecture. You could do 200 MB Horizon for your budget.
>
> I have no experience with the trango.
>
> Bob
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:47:10
> To:"WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>
>
> I have used the Trango GigaLink and DragonWave.  DragonWave is rock solid.
> Never a problem.  Have several systems.
> We are still trying to get the Trango to play.  Lots of signal but not
> running well at all.
>
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link
>
>
>> Matt,
>>
>> I would take a look at the Trango GigaLink 18ghz product. It will do
>> 105Mbps full-duplex (200Mbps total) for your price range and you can do
>> a software upgrade to 300Mbps full-duplex (600Mbps total) for about
>> $5,000 extra (at a later date, when you need the speed). It's an IDU/ODU
>> setup and you use LMR-400 between them.
>>
>> You could lease the 600Mbps version on a 36 month, $1 buyout for less
>> than you are paying for your fiber. ;)
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am looking for a licensed link to replace a fiber connection.   I am
>>> currently paying for a 100meg fiber connection between two of my towers
>>> and would like to replace it with my own infrastructure.  I own the
>>> towers on both sides, there is plenty of LOS and the link distance is
>>> 2.9 miles.  The connection currently peaks out at about 30 meg, but I'm
>>> planning to put remote backup servers on the far side, so I'd like to be
>>> able to maintain 100meg speeds.
>>>
>>> I am interested in finding out what kind of radios people are using for
>>> this type of link.  The fiber connection costs me $500/month, and I'd
>>> like to be able to pay for the link within 2.5 years, so that puts a
>>> $12-15K  price range on it.Vendors, feel free to contact me off-list
>>> about this one.
>>>
>>> Matt Larsen
>>> vistabeam.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

2008-01-15 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
A DragonWave 18Ghz or Ceragon 18Ghz should do that just fine, BridgeWave
80Ghz may even be a solution.

Mike Bushard, Jr
Wireless Network Engineer
320-256-WISP (9477)
320-256-9478 Fax

 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

Hi all,

I am looking for a licensed link to replace a fiber connection.   I am 
currently paying for a 100meg fiber connection between two of my towers 
and would like to replace it with my own infrastructure.  I own the 
towers on both sides, there is plenty of LOS and the link distance is 
2.9 miles.  The connection currently peaks out at about 30 meg, but I'm 
planning to put remote backup servers on the far side, so I'd like to be 
able to maintain 100meg speeds.

I am interested in finding out what kind of radios people are using for 
this type of link.  The fiber connection costs me $500/month, and I'd 
like to be able to pay for the link within 2.5 years, so that puts a  
$12-15K  price range on it.Vendors, feel free to contact me off-list 
about this one.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com
 




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Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

2008-01-15 Thread lakeland
Matt

I have installed over 50 Dragonwave links in the past 24  months.  1 outage the 
result of equipment failure and I had a replacement in my hand the next day 
from Canada. 

Airpair goes up to 200 Meg. FD. Horizon will do 600 plus. Multiple IDU. ODU 
architecture. You could do 200 MB Horizon for your budget.

I have no experience with the trango.

Bob
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:47:10 
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link


I have used the Trango GigaLink and DragonWave.  DragonWave is rock solid. 
Never a problem.  Have several systems.
We are still trying to get the Trango to play.  Lots of signal but not 
running well at all.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link


> Matt,
>
> I would take a look at the Trango GigaLink 18ghz product. It will do
> 105Mbps full-duplex (200Mbps total) for your price range and you can do
> a software upgrade to 300Mbps full-duplex (600Mbps total) for about
> $5,000 extra (at a later date, when you need the speed). It's an IDU/ODU
> setup and you use LMR-400 between them.
>
> You could lease the 600Mbps version on a 36 month, $1 buyout for less
> than you are paying for your fiber. ;)
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am looking for a licensed link to replace a fiber connection.   I am
>> currently paying for a 100meg fiber connection between two of my towers
>> and would like to replace it with my own infrastructure.  I own the
>> towers on both sides, there is plenty of LOS and the link distance is
>> 2.9 miles.  The connection currently peaks out at about 30 meg, but I'm
>> planning to put remote backup servers on the far side, so I'd like to be
>> able to maintain 100meg speeds.
>>
>> I am interested in finding out what kind of radios people are using for
>> this type of link.  The fiber connection costs me $500/month, and I'd
>> like to be able to pay for the link within 2.5 years, so that puts a
>> $12-15K  price range on it.Vendors, feel free to contact me off-list
>> about this one.
>>
>> Matt Larsen
>> vistabeam.com
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

2008-01-15 Thread Chuck McCown
I have used the Trango GigaLink and DragonWave.  DragonWave is rock solid. 
Never a problem.  Have several systems.
We are still trying to get the Trango to play.  Lots of signal but not 
running well at all.

- Original Message - 
From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link


> Matt,
>
> I would take a look at the Trango GigaLink 18ghz product. It will do
> 105Mbps full-duplex (200Mbps total) for your price range and you can do
> a software upgrade to 300Mbps full-duplex (600Mbps total) for about
> $5,000 extra (at a later date, when you need the speed). It's an IDU/ODU
> setup and you use LMR-400 between them.
>
> You could lease the 600Mbps version on a 36 month, $1 buyout for less
> than you are paying for your fiber. ;)
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am looking for a licensed link to replace a fiber connection.   I am
>> currently paying for a 100meg fiber connection between two of my towers
>> and would like to replace it with my own infrastructure.  I own the
>> towers on both sides, there is plenty of LOS and the link distance is
>> 2.9 miles.  The connection currently peaks out at about 30 meg, but I'm
>> planning to put remote backup servers on the far side, so I'd like to be
>> able to maintain 100meg speeds.
>>
>> I am interested in finding out what kind of radios people are using for
>> this type of link.  The fiber connection costs me $500/month, and I'd
>> like to be able to pay for the link within 2.5 years, so that puts a
>> $12-15K  price range on it.Vendors, feel free to contact me off-list
>> about this one.
>>
>> Matt Larsen
>> vistabeam.com
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for short licensed link

2008-01-15 Thread Travis Johnson
Matt,

I would take a look at the Trango GigaLink 18ghz product. It will do 
105Mbps full-duplex (200Mbps total) for your price range and you can do 
a software upgrade to 300Mbps full-duplex (600Mbps total) for about 
$5,000 extra (at a later date, when you need the speed). It's an IDU/ODU 
setup and you use LMR-400 between them.

You could lease the 600Mbps version on a 36 month, $1 buyout for less 
than you are paying for your fiber. ;)

Travis
Microserv

Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am looking for a licensed link to replace a fiber connection.   I am 
> currently paying for a 100meg fiber connection between two of my towers 
> and would like to replace it with my own infrastructure.  I own the 
> towers on both sides, there is plenty of LOS and the link distance is 
> 2.9 miles.  The connection currently peaks out at about 30 meg, but I'm 
> planning to put remote backup servers on the far side, so I'd like to be 
> able to maintain 100meg speeds.
>
> I am interested in finding out what kind of radios people are using for 
> this type of link.  The fiber connection costs me $500/month, and I'd 
> like to be able to pay for the link within 2.5 years, so that puts a  
> $12-15K  price range on it.Vendors, feel free to contact me off-list 
> about this one.
>
> Matt Larsen
> vistabeam.com
>  
>
>
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