Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
How is v4 working for you other than the potential 2GB issue? I’ve been hesitant to move to it since it’s still beta. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:02 PM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation The majority of the data is traffic statistics. In V4 you can set the dude to store much more historical data than in V3 so instead of having a monthly graph that shows averaged data you can have a daily or hourly graph that goes back months and therefore gives a much more accurate historical view of network usage. Unfortunately, downgrading back to V3 will loose much of this functionality so isn’t really an option either. Many thanks, Paul. _ From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 19:45 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Yes I did. I was unaware that in the migration to v4 it utilized SQLite instead of file storage. Perhaps you can load up another box and downgrade to 3.6 and see if you run into this issue. Are you holding a lot of NPKs for upgrades? I found this was an issue when I tried to back up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Josh, Did you actually read the original post? The latest dude beta versions run a backend database not files. The backend database is SQLite and it is when the database reaches a file size of 2GB that Dude stops working. The question remains, which element is causing this bottleneck and is there a work around? Paul. _ From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 19:18 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I gave you a work around, change to RouterOS. I'm not sure where SQlite is involved, but you don't have any options with Dude in terms of storage. It simply stores it in files. I don't see how you're hitting 2GB for the Dude, where are you seeing this number? Can you load a demo copy of RouterOS and import your backup and see if the issue is seen there as well? Some linux distro? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi guys, I don’t want to suggest this thread has been hijacked but can we get back to the original question? Does anyone know if the 2GB limit is OS, SQLite or Dude related and if there is any work around? Many thanks, Paul. _ From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 17:15 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I read something complaining updates were released every Tuesday for 6 weeks. Updates are definitely good, but on servers you have to manually intervene. I don't want to use my time on that. Biggest patch Tuesday ever was last week or week before, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Second Tuesday of the month, except for out-of-cycle patches, no? Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Every Tuesday for Windows. How often for RouterOS? I still have 2.9.x boxes out there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: This is what I was referring to. I don't want to spend my nights updating Windows. Spending your nights updating FreeBSD or Linux isn't any better. No matter what you're running, it probably will need occasional updates. I almost always try to schedule those updates for after-midnight, to minimize the number of users affected by whatever-it-is being down. The only exception to this is if something is fairly redundant. I'm willing to do work on one of the incoming mail servers or DNS servers, for instance, since there are several of those and one being down for a few minutes during the day won't even be noticed. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
I like it. However I feel it is still a little buggy in the Discovery module. I have reported one bug and MT has verified it. I have a sub map for each tower. If you setup a weekly discovery to find new clients on towers the saved discovery can change to the last tower you are in. So when you run a discovery you have to disable it and run it manually each week. I am also having an issue with it discovering clients on some towers. I can run a Angry IP scan on a tower and come up with 40 clients and using the discovery on that same PC it only comes up with 12. If I add them manually the work just fine. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WINhttp://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Servicehttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:41 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation How is v4 working for you other than the potential 2GB issue? I’ve been hesitant to move to it since it’s still beta. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:02 PM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation The majority of the data is traffic statistics. In V4 you can set the dude to store much more historical data than in V3 so instead of having a monthly graph that shows averaged data you can have a daily or hourly graph that goes back months and therefore gives a much more accurate historical view of network usage. Unfortunately, downgrading back to V3 will loose much of this functionality so isn’t really an option either. Many thanks, Paul. From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 19:45 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Yes I did. I was unaware that in the migration to v4 it utilized SQLite instead of file storage. Perhaps you can load up another box and downgrade to 3.6 and see if you run into this issue. Are you holding a lot of NPKs for upgrades? I found this was an issue when I tried to back up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.commailto:paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Josh, Did you actually read the original post? The latest dude beta versions run a backend database not files. The backend database is SQLite and it is when the database reaches a file size of 2GB that Dude stops working. The question remains, which element is causing this bottleneck and is there a work around? Paul. From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 19:18 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I gave you a work around, change to RouterOS. I'm not sure where SQlite is involved, but you don't have any options with Dude in terms of storage. It simply stores it in files. I don't see how you're hitting 2GB for the Dude, where are you seeing this number? Can you load a demo copy of RouterOS and import your backup and see if the issue is seen there as well? Some linux distro? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.commailto:paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi guys, I don’t want to suggest this thread has been hijacked but can we get back to the original question? Does anyone know if the 2GB limit is OS, SQLite or Dude related and if there is any work around? Many thanks, Paul. From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 17:15 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I read something complaining updates were released every Tuesday for 6 weeks. Updates are definitely good, but on servers you have to manually intervene. I don't want to use my time on that. Biggest patch Tuesday ever was last week or week before, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.commailto:os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Second Tuesday of the month, except for out-of-cycle patches, no? Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Every Tuesday for Windows. How often for RouterOS? I still have 2.9.x boxes out there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.netmailto:d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23, Josh Luthman j
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
Too early to tell. Dealing with one bug at a time ;) _ From: Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] Sent: 20 October 2010 15:41 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation How is v4 working for you other than the potential 2GB issue? I’ve been hesitant to move to it since it’s still beta. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:02 PM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation The majority of the data is traffic statistics. In V4 you can set the dude to store much more historical data than in V3 so instead of having a monthly graph that shows averaged data you can have a daily or hourly graph that goes back months and therefore gives a much more accurate historical view of network usage. Unfortunately, downgrading back to V3 will loose much of this functionality so isn’t really an option either. Many thanks, Paul. _ From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 19:45 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Yes I did. I was unaware that in the migration to v4 it utilized SQLite instead of file storage. Perhaps you can load up another box and downgrade to 3.6 and see if you run into this issue. Are you holding a lot of NPKs for upgrades? I found this was an issue when I tried to back up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Josh, Did you actually read the original post? The latest dude beta versions run a backend database not files. The backend database is SQLite and it is when the database reaches a file size of 2GB that Dude stops working. The question remains, which element is causing this bottleneck and is there a work around? Paul. _ From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 19:18 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I gave you a work around, change to RouterOS. I'm not sure where SQlite is involved, but you don't have any options with Dude in terms of storage. It simply stores it in files. I don't see how you're hitting 2GB for the Dude, where are you seeing this number? Can you load a demo copy of RouterOS and import your backup and see if the issue is seen there as well? Some linux distro? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi guys, I don’t want to suggest this thread has been hijacked but can we get back to the original question? Does anyone know if the 2GB limit is OS, SQLite or Dude related and if there is any work around? Many thanks, Paul. _ From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 17:15 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I read something complaining updates were released every Tuesday for 6 weeks. Updates are definitely good, but on servers you have to manually intervene. I don't want to use my time on that. Biggest patch Tuesday ever was last week or week before, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Second Tuesday of the month, except for out-of-cycle patches, no? Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Every Tuesday for Windows. How often for RouterOS? I still have 2.9.x boxes out there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: This is what I was referring to. I don't want to spend my nights updating Windows. Spending your nights updating FreeBSD or Linux isn't any better. No matter what you're running, it probably will need occasional updates. I almost always try to schedule those updates for after-midnight, to minimize the number of users affected by whatever-it-is being down. The only exception to this is if something is fairly redundant. I'm willing to do work on one of the incoming mail servers or DNS servers, for instance, since there are several of those and one being down for a few minutes during the day won't even be noticed. David Smith
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
Another thing that is interesting is that I have 2 links that are UBNT NanoBridge. I just updated the firmware on them from 5.2 to 5.2.1 when doing so the link went from black to Red. It doesn't show that it is down and it doent tell me what is wrong, all the data comes through fine shows SNMP data Speed, Link Speed, Freq, and everything just the same as before the link is just red. (I hate things being red on the Dude) I assume something is set differnet in the firmware. Wait Just figured it out. The new firmware reports that the link is FULL duplex. Changed Full duplex to Blue as a default and I am happy. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WINhttp://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Servicehttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:36 PM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Too early to tell. Dealing with one bug at a time ;) From: Jason Hensley [mailto:ja...@jaggartech.com] Sent: 20 October 2010 15:41 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation How is v4 working for you other than the potential 2GB issue? I've been hesitant to move to it since it's still beta. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:02 PM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation The majority of the data is traffic statistics. In V4 you can set the dude to store much more historical data than in V3 so instead of having a monthly graph that shows averaged data you can have a daily or hourly graph that goes back months and therefore gives a much more accurate historical view of network usage. Unfortunately, downgrading back to V3 will loose much of this functionality so isn't really an option either. Many thanks, Paul. From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 19:45 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Yes I did. I was unaware that in the migration to v4 it utilized SQLite instead of file storage. Perhaps you can load up another box and downgrade to 3.6 and see if you run into this issue. Are you holding a lot of NPKs for upgrades? I found this was an issue when I tried to back up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.commailto:paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Josh, Did you actually read the original post? The latest dude beta versions run a backend database not files. The backend database is SQLite and it is when the database reaches a file size of 2GB that Dude stops working. The question remains, which element is causing this bottleneck and is there a work around? Paul. From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 19:18 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I gave you a work around, change to RouterOS. I'm not sure where SQlite is involved, but you don't have any options with Dude in terms of storage. It simply stores it in files. I don't see how you're hitting 2GB for the Dude, where are you seeing this number? Can you load a demo copy of RouterOS and import your backup and see if the issue is seen there as well? Some linux distro? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.commailto:paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi guys, I don't want to suggest this thread has been hijacked but can we get back to the original question? Does anyone know if the 2GB limit is OS, SQLite or Dude related and if there is any work around? Many thanks, Paul. From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 17:15 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I read something complaining updates were released every Tuesday for 6 weeks. Updates are definitely good, but on servers you have to manually intervene. I don't want to use my time on that. Biggest patch Tuesday ever was last week or week before, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.commailto:os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Second Tuesday of the month, except for out-of-cycle patches, no? Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Every Tuesday for Windows. How often for RouterOS? I still have 2.9.x boxes out
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
Use RouterOS? On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run. File system is NTFS so it shouldn’t be an issue from that point of view. Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work arounds? Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can't remember what they were. I don't think it was performance - had more to do with features available or something like that. I know I moved off of RouterOS back to an XP machine. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Use RouterOS? On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run. File system is NTFS so it shouldn't be an issue from that point of view. Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work arounds? Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
What features? It's the exact same application. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can’t remember what they were. I don’t think it was performance – had more to do with features available or something like that. I know I moved off of RouterOS back to an XP machine. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Use RouterOS? On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run. File system is NTFS so it shouldn’t be an issue from that point of view. Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work arounds? Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
The reason we used it on WinXP was so it could link easily with a mobile to forward SMS alerts. _ From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 14:28 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation What features? It's the exact same application. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can’t remember what they were. I don’t think it was performance – had more to do with features available or something like that. I know I moved off of RouterOS back to an XP machine. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Use RouterOS? On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run. File system is NTFS so it shouldn’t be an issue from that point of view. Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work arounds? Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
Wish I would remember. I'll try to look / think back and see. It may have to do with the web interface, but maybe not. Ug! J From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation What features? It's the exact same application. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can't remember what they were. I don't think it was performance - had more to do with features available or something like that. I know I moved off of RouterOS back to an XP machine. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Use RouterOS? On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run. File system is NTFS so it shouldn't be an issue from that point of view. Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work arounds? Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
Web interface is on mine, ROS 3.30 Dude 3.6. I check it with my Droid X from time to time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.comwrote: Wish I would remember. I’ll try to look / think back and see. It may have to do with the web interface, but maybe not. Ug! J *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation What features? It's the exact same application. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can’t remember what they were. I don’t think it was performance – had more to do with features available or something like that. I know I moved off of RouterOS back to an XP machine. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Use RouterOS? On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run. File system is NTFS so it shouldn’t be an issue from that point of view. Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work arounds? Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
Oh, I remember now. Dude from time to time would just stop responding for no real reason and we had to bring down the router to get it going again. We had it running at that time on a router that wasn't critical, but became real inconvenient to reboot. It got to the point that it was becoming a daily thing so we dropped it on RouterOS and went back to WinXP. If I go back to RouterOS it will be on a dedicated RouterOS system just for Dude. We never figured out what was going on with it when it would quit responding - worked with Mikrotik support a little bit on it but we weren't interested in spending much time on it - we just moved on to a different setup. That has been a couple of years ago so things may have changed since then. We also would lose all history when we restarted RouterOS, but I think that was because it was not configured correctly, or because we were running it on an RB433. At any rate it probably wasn't a big deal to work around / fix if we had spent some time on it but I just decided to move it back to an XP box and go on. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Web interface is on mine, ROS 3.30 Dude 3.6. I check it with my Droid X from time to time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Wish I would remember. I'll try to look / think back and see. It may have to do with the web interface, but maybe not. Ug! J From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation What features? It's the exact same application. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can't remember what they were. I don't think it was performance - had more to do with features available or something like that. I know I moved off of RouterOS back to an XP machine. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Use RouterOS? On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run. File system is NTFS so it shouldn't be an issue from that point of view. Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work arounds? Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
I've only rebooted mine for upgrades and enabling/disabling ntp/routing and such. I hate having Windows servers to support, it may just be me but I feel they always cause more problems then they solve - ESPECIALLY in time. I really hate the storage issues, though. Backups have to be done manually - keep that in mind! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.comwrote: Oh, I remember now. Dude from time to time would just stop responding for no real reason and we had to bring down the router to get it going again. We had it running at that time on a router that wasn’t critical, but became real inconvenient to reboot. It got to the point that it was becoming a daily thing so we dropped it on RouterOS and went back to WinXP. If I go back to RouterOS it will be on a dedicated RouterOS system just for Dude. We never figured out what was going on with it when it would quit responding – worked with Mikrotik support a little bit on it but we weren’t interested in spending much time on it – we just moved on to a different setup. That has been a couple of years ago so things may have changed since then. We also would lose all history when we restarted RouterOS, but I think that was because it was not configured correctly, or because we were running it on an RB433. At any rate it probably wasn’t a big deal to work around / fix if we had spent some time on it but I just decided to move it back to an XP box and go on. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:32 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Web interface is on mine, ROS 3.30 Dude 3.6. I check it with my Droid X from time to time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Wish I would remember. I’ll try to look / think back and see. It may have to do with the web interface, but maybe not. Ug! J *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation What features? It's the exact same application. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can’t remember what they were. I don’t think it was performance – had more to do with features available or something like that. I know I moved off of RouterOS back to an XP machine. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Use RouterOS? On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run. File system is NTFS so it shouldn’t be an issue from that point of view. Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work arounds? Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
I don't mind Windows Servers - have been running them for many years for all critical web hosting, RADIUS, mail, etc. Key to Windows servers is configuration and lockdown - only run minimal services, good firewalling, don't overload, etc. Are you running Dude on x86 ROS or on an RB? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I've only rebooted mine for upgrades and enabling/disabling ntp/routing and such. I hate having Windows servers to support, it may just be me but I feel they always cause more problems then they solve - ESPECIALLY in time. I really hate the storage issues, though. Backups have to be done manually - keep that in mind! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Oh, I remember now. Dude from time to time would just stop responding for no real reason and we had to bring down the router to get it going again. We had it running at that time on a router that wasn't critical, but became real inconvenient to reboot. It got to the point that it was becoming a daily thing so we dropped it on RouterOS and went back to WinXP. If I go back to RouterOS it will be on a dedicated RouterOS system just for Dude. We never figured out what was going on with it when it would quit responding - worked with Mikrotik support a little bit on it but we weren't interested in spending much time on it - we just moved on to a different setup. That has been a couple of years ago so things may have changed since then. We also would lose all history when we restarted RouterOS, but I think that was because it was not configured correctly, or because we were running it on an RB433. At any rate it probably wasn't a big deal to work around / fix if we had spent some time on it but I just decided to move it back to an XP box and go on. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Web interface is on mine, ROS 3.30 Dude 3.6. I check it with my Droid X from time to time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Wish I would remember. I'll try to look / think back and see. It may have to do with the web interface, but maybe not. Ug! J From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation What features? It's the exact same application. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can't remember what they were. I don't think it was performance - had more to do with features available or something like that. I know I moved off of RouterOS back to an XP machine. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Use RouterOS? On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run. File system is NTFS so it shouldn't be an issue from that point of view. Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work arounds? Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
I am using x86. Local college tossed a whole bunch of low end machines (ran XP) and I picked up a couple dozen. 3 Towers are sitting side by side in the shelves - 1 running Dude and the other 2 for spare hardware. I would imagine you could do the same thing with random garage sale PCs, but I'm not sure how happy MT would be with bridge/chipset changes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.comwrote: I don’t mind Windows Servers – have been running them for many years for all critical web hosting, RADIUS, mail, etc. Key to Windows servers is configuration and lockdown – only run minimal services, good firewalling, don’t overload, etc. Are you running Dude on x86 ROS or on an RB? *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:51 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I've only rebooted mine for upgrades and enabling/disabling ntp/routing and such. I hate having Windows servers to support, it may just be me but I feel they always cause more problems then they solve - ESPECIALLY in time. I really hate the storage issues, though. Backups have to be done manually - keep that in mind! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Oh, I remember now. Dude from time to time would just stop responding for no real reason and we had to bring down the router to get it going again. We had it running at that time on a router that wasn’t critical, but became real inconvenient to reboot. It got to the point that it was becoming a daily thing so we dropped it on RouterOS and went back to WinXP. If I go back to RouterOS it will be on a dedicated RouterOS system just for Dude. We never figured out what was going on with it when it would quit responding – worked with Mikrotik support a little bit on it but we weren’t interested in spending much time on it – we just moved on to a different setup. That has been a couple of years ago so things may have changed since then. We also would lose all history when we restarted RouterOS, but I think that was because it was not configured correctly, or because we were running it on an RB433. At any rate it probably wasn’t a big deal to work around / fix if we had spent some time on it but I just decided to move it back to an XP box and go on. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:32 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Web interface is on mine, ROS 3.30 Dude 3.6. I check it with my Droid X from time to time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Wish I would remember. I’ll try to look / think back and see. It may have to do with the web interface, but maybe not. Ug! J *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation What features? It's the exact same application. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can’t remember what they were. I don’t think it was performance – had more to do with features available or something like that. I know I moved off of RouterOS back to an XP machine. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Use RouterOS? On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run. File system is NTFS so it shouldn’t be an issue from that point of view. Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work arounds? Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
Do you recommend turning on automatic updates? Software or hardware firewall? Do you have an antivirus recommendation? I use Avira free (I hate paying for antivirus). It's the best I've used. Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: I don’t mind Windows Servers – have been running them for many years for all critical web hosting, RADIUS, mail, etc. Key to Windows servers is configuration and lockdown – only run minimal services, good firewalling, don’t overload, etc. Are you running Dude on x86 ROS or on an RB? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I've only rebooted mine for upgrades and enabling/disabling ntp/routing and such. I hate having Windows servers to support, it may just be me but I feel they always cause more problems then they solve - ESPECIALLY in time. I really hate the storage issues, though. Backups have to be done manually - keep that in mind! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Oh, I remember now. Dude from time to time would just stop responding for no real reason and we had to bring down the router to get it going again. We had it running at that time on a router that wasn’t critical, but became real inconvenient to reboot. It got to the point that it was becoming a daily thing so we dropped it on RouterOS and went back to WinXP. If I go back to RouterOS it will be on a dedicated RouterOS system just for Dude. We never figured out what was going on with it when it would quit responding – worked with Mikrotik support a little bit on it but we weren’t interested in spending much time on it – we just moved on to a different setup. That has been a couple of years ago so things may have changed since then. We also would lose all history when we restarted RouterOS, but I think that was because it was not configured correctly, or because we were running it on an RB433. At any rate it probably wasn’t a big deal to work around / fix if we had spent some time on it but I just decided to move it back to an XP box and go on. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Web interface is on mine, ROS 3.30 Dude 3.6. I check it with my Droid X from time to time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Wish I would remember. I’ll try to look / think back and see. It may have to do with the web interface, but maybe not. Ug! J From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation What features? It's the exact same application. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can’t remember what they were. I don’t think it was performance – had more to do with features available or something like that. I know I moved off of RouterOS back to an XP machine. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Use RouterOS? On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag. It seems that when the SQLite back-end database hits 2GB it will no longer run. File system is NTFS so it shouldn’t be an issue from that point of view. Anyone know what the issue is likely to be and any possible work arounds? Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed
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I do auto download on the updates, but I install them myself - normally late at night. Last thing I want is a bad patch killing my network and a critical server. Hardware firewall - or something dedicated to firewalling. Windows firewall sucks - not very configurable and gets in the way when you don't want it to, and won't move out of the way when you do want it to. Avira is fantastic and we're migrating all of our commercial stuff to it (paid version). Have had more than one instance now of a suspicious file on a customer's pc that we upload to www.virustotal.com and Avira was the only one that picked up on it being a bad file. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Do you recommend turning on automatic updates? Software or hardware firewall? Do you have an antivirus recommendation? I use Avira free (I hate paying for antivirus). It's the best I've used. Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: I don't mind Windows Servers - have been running them for many years for all critical web hosting, RADIUS, mail, etc. Key to Windows servers is configuration and lockdown - only run minimal services, good firewalling, don't overload, etc. Are you running Dude on x86 ROS or on an RB? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I've only rebooted mine for upgrades and enabling/disabling ntp/routing and such. I hate having Windows servers to support, it may just be me but I feel they always cause more problems then they solve - ESPECIALLY in time. I really hate the storage issues, though. Backups have to be done manually - keep that in mind! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Oh, I remember now. Dude from time to time would just stop responding for no real reason and we had to bring down the router to get it going again. We had it running at that time on a router that wasn't critical, but became real inconvenient to reboot. It got to the point that it was becoming a daily thing so we dropped it on RouterOS and went back to WinXP. If I go back to RouterOS it will be on a dedicated RouterOS system just for Dude. We never figured out what was going on with it when it would quit responding - worked with Mikrotik support a little bit on it but we weren't interested in spending much time on it - we just moved on to a different setup. That has been a couple of years ago so things may have changed since then. We also would lose all history when we restarted RouterOS, but I think that was because it was not configured correctly, or because we were running it on an RB433. At any rate it probably wasn't a big deal to work around / fix if we had spent some time on it but I just decided to move it back to an XP box and go on. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Web interface is on mine, ROS 3.30 Dude 3.6. I check it with my Droid X from time to time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Wish I would remember. I'll try to look / think back and see. It may have to do with the web interface, but maybe not. Ug! J From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation What features? It's the exact same application. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can't remember what they were. I don't think it was performance - had more to do with features available or something like that. I know I moved off of RouterOS back to an XP machine. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Use RouterOS? On Oct 19, 2010 8:46 AM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi all, We have been using the latest beta version of the Dude to monitor bandwidth on some devices and have hit a slight snag
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
I do auto download on the updates, but Iinstall them myself – normally late at night. Last thing I want is a bad patch killing my network and a critical server. This is what I was referring to. I don't want to spend my nights updating Windows. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.comwrote: I do auto download on the updates, but I install them myself – normally late at night. Last thing I want is a bad patch killing my network and a critical server. Hardware firewall – or something dedicated to firewalling. Windows firewall sucks – not very configurable and gets in the way when you don’t want it to, and won’t move out of the way when you do want it to. Avira is fantastic and we’re migrating all of our commercial stuff to it (paid version). Have had more than one instance now of a suspicious file on a customer’s pc that we upload to www.virustotal.com and Avira was the only one that picked up on it being a bad file. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Ihnen *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:10 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Do you recommend turning on automatic updates? Software or hardware firewall? Do you have an antivirus recommendation? I use Avira free (I hate paying for antivirus). It's the best I've used. Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: I don’t mind Windows Servers – have been running them for many years for all critical web hosting, RADIUS, mail, etc. Key to Windows servers is configuration and lockdown – only run minimal services, good firewalling, don’t overload, etc. Are you running Dude on x86 ROS or on an RB? *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:51 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I've only rebooted mine for upgrades and enabling/disabling ntp/routing and such. I hate having Windows servers to support, it may just be me but I feel they always cause more problems then they solve - ESPECIALLY in time. I really hate the storage issues, though. Backups have to be done manually - keep that in mind! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Oh, I remember now. Dude from time to time would just stop responding for no real reason and we had to bring down the router to get it going again. We had it running at that time on a router that wasn’t critical, but became real inconvenient to reboot. It got to the point that it was becoming a daily thing so we dropped it on RouterOS and went back to WinXP. If I go back to RouterOS it will be on a dedicated RouterOS system just for Dude. We never figured out what was going on with it when it would quit responding – worked with Mikrotik support a little bit on it but we weren’t interested in spending much time on it – we just moved on to a different setup. That has been a couple of years ago so things may have changed since then. We also would lose all history when we restarted RouterOS, but I think that was because it was not configured correctly, or because we were running it on an RB433. At any rate it probably wasn’t a big deal to work around / fix if we had spent some time on it but I just decided to move it back to an XP box and go on. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:32 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Web interface is on mine, ROS 3.30 Dude 3.6. I check it with my Droid X from time to time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Wish I would remember. I’ll try to look / think back and see. It may have to do with the web interface, but maybe not. Ug! J *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation What features? It's the exact same application. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I had issues with Dude on RouterOS, but for the life of me I can’t remember what they were. I don’t think it was performance – had more to do with features available or something
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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: This is what I was referring to. I don't want to spend my nights updating Windows. Spending your nights updating FreeBSD or Linux isn't any better. No matter what you're running, it probably will need occasional updates. I almost always try to schedule those updates for after-midnight, to minimize the number of users affected by whatever-it-is being down. The only exception to this is if something is fairly redundant. I'm willing to do work on one of the incoming mail servers or DNS servers, for instance, since there are several of those and one being down for a few minutes during the day won't even be noticed. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Every Tuesday for Windows. How often for RouterOS? I still have 2.9.x boxes out there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: This is what I was referring to. I don't want to spend my nights updating Windows. Spending your nights updating FreeBSD or Linux isn't any better. No matter what you're running, it probably will need occasional updates. I almost always try to schedule those updates for after-midnight, to minimize the number of users affected by whatever-it-is being down. The only exception to this is if something is fairly redundant. I'm willing to do work on one of the incoming mail servers or DNS servers, for instance, since there are several of those and one being down for a few minutes during the day won't even be noticed. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Second Tuesday of the month, except for out-of-cycle patches, no? Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Every Tuesday for Windows. How often for RouterOS? I still have 2.9.x boxes out there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: This is what I was referring to. I don't want to spend my nights updating Windows. Spending your nights updating FreeBSD or Linux isn't any better. No matter what you're running, it probably will need occasional updates. I almost always try to schedule those updates for after-midnight, to minimize the number of users affected by whatever-it-is being down. The only exception to this is if something is fairly redundant. I'm willing to do work on one of the incoming mail servers or DNS servers, for instance, since there are several of those and one being down for a few minutes during the day won't even be noticed. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I read something complaining updates were released every Tuesday for 6 weeks. Updates are definitely good, but on servers you have to manually intervene. I don't want to use my time on that. Biggest patch Tuesday ever was last week or week before, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Second Tuesday of the month, except for out-of-cycle patches, no? Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Every Tuesday for Windows. How often for RouterOS? I still have 2.9.x boxes out there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: This is what I was referring to. I don't want to spend my nights updating Windows. Spending your nights updating FreeBSD or Linux isn't any better. No matter what you're running, it probably will need occasional updates. I almost always try to schedule those updates for after-midnight, to minimize the number of users affected by whatever-it-is being down. The only exception to this is if something is fairly redundant. I'm willing to do work on one of the incoming mail servers or DNS servers, for instance, since there are several of those and one being down for a few minutes during the day won't even be noticed. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
Hi guys, I don’t want to suggest this thread has been hijacked but can we get back to the original question? Does anyone know if the 2GB limit is OS, SQLite or Dude related and if there is any work around? Many thanks, Paul. _ From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 17:15 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I read something complaining updates were released every Tuesday for 6 weeks. Updates are definitely good, but on servers you have to manually intervene. I don't want to use my time on that. Biggest patch Tuesday ever was last week or week before, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Second Tuesday of the month, except for out-of-cycle patches, no? Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Every Tuesday for Windows. How often for RouterOS? I still have 2.9.x boxes out there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: This is what I was referring to. I don't want to spend my nights updating Windows. Spending your nights updating FreeBSD or Linux isn't any better. No matter what you're running, it probably will need occasional updates. I almost always try to schedule those updates for after-midnight, to minimize the number of users affected by whatever-it-is being down. The only exception to this is if something is fairly redundant. I'm willing to do work on one of the incoming mail servers or DNS servers, for instance, since there are several of those and one being down for a few minutes during the day won't even be noticed. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
I gave you a work around, change to RouterOS. I'm not sure where SQlite is involved, but you don't have any options with Dude in terms of storage. It simply stores it in files. I don't see how you're hitting 2GB for the Dude, where are you seeing this number? Can you load a demo copy of RouterOS and import your backup and see if the issue is seen there as well? Some linux distro? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi guys, I don’t want to suggest this thread has been hijacked but can we get back to the original question? Does anyone know if the 2GB limit is OS, SQLite or Dude related and if there is any work around? Many thanks, Paul. -- *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* 19 October 2010 17:15 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I read something complaining updates were released every Tuesday for 6 weeks. Updates are definitely good, but on servers you have to manually intervene. I don't want to use my time on that. Biggest patch Tuesday ever was last week or week before, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Second Tuesday of the month, except for out-of-cycle patches, no? Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Every Tuesday for Windows. How often for RouterOS? I still have 2.9.x boxes out there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: This is what I was referring to. I don't want to spend my nights updating Windows. Spending your nights updating FreeBSD or Linux isn't any better. No matter what you're running, it probably will need occasional updates. I almost always try to schedule those updates for after-midnight, to minimize the number of users affected by whatever-it-is being down. The only exception to this is if something is fairly redundant. I'm willing to do work on one of the incoming mail servers or DNS servers, for instance, since there are several of those and one being down for a few minutes during the day won't even be noticed. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
Josh, Did you actually read the original post? The latest dude beta versions run a backend database not files. The backend database is SQLite and it is when the database reaches a file size of 2GB that Dude stops working. The question remains, which element is causing this bottleneck and is there a work around? Paul. _ From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 19:18 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I gave you a work around, change to RouterOS. I'm not sure where SQlite is involved, but you don't have any options with Dude in terms of storage. It simply stores it in files. I don't see how you're hitting 2GB for the Dude, where are you seeing this number? Can you load a demo copy of RouterOS and import your backup and see if the issue is seen there as well? Some linux distro? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi guys, I don’t want to suggest this thread has been hijacked but can we get back to the original question? Does anyone know if the 2GB limit is OS, SQLite or Dude related and if there is any work around? Many thanks, Paul. _ From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 17:15 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I read something complaining updates were released every Tuesday for 6 weeks. Updates are definitely good, but on servers you have to manually intervene. I don't want to use my time on that. Biggest patch Tuesday ever was last week or week before, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Second Tuesday of the month, except for out-of-cycle patches, no? Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Every Tuesday for Windows. How often for RouterOS? I still have 2.9.x boxes out there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: This is what I was referring to. I don't want to spend my nights updating Windows. Spending your nights updating FreeBSD or Linux isn't any better. No matter what you're running, it probably will need occasional updates. I almost always try to schedule those updates for after-midnight, to minimize the number of users affected by whatever-it-is being down. The only exception to this is if something is fairly redundant. I'm willing to do work on one of the incoming mail servers or DNS servers, for instance, since there are several of those and one being down for a few minutes during the day won't even be noticed. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
Yes I did. I was unaware that in the migration to v4 it utilized SQLite instead of file storage. Perhaps you can load up another box and downgrade to 3.6 and see if you run into this issue. Are you holding a lot of NPKs for upgrades? I found this was an issue when I tried to back up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Josh, Did you actually read the original post? The latest dude beta versions run a backend database not files. The backend database is SQLite and it is when the database reaches a file size of 2GB that Dude stops working. The question remains, which element is causing this bottleneck and is there a work around? Paul. -- *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* 19 October 2010 19:18 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I gave you a work around, change to RouterOS. I'm not sure where SQlite is involved, but you don't have any options with Dude in terms of storage. It simply stores it in files. I don't see how you're hitting 2GB for the Dude, where are you seeing this number? Can you load a demo copy of RouterOS and import your backup and see if the issue is seen there as well? Some linux distro? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi guys, I don’t want to suggest this thread has been hijacked but can we get back to the original question? Does anyone know if the 2GB limit is OS, SQLite or Dude related and if there is any work around? Many thanks, Paul. -- *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* 19 October 2010 17:15 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I read something complaining updates were released every Tuesday for 6 weeks. Updates are definitely good, but on servers you have to manually intervene. I don't want to use my time on that. Biggest patch Tuesday ever was last week or week before, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Second Tuesday of the month, except for out-of-cycle patches, no? Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Every Tuesday for Windows. How often for RouterOS? I still have 2.9.x boxes out there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: This is what I was referring to. I don't want to spend my nights updating Windows. Spending your nights updating FreeBSD or Linux isn't any better. No matter what you're running, it probably will need occasional updates. I almost always try to schedule those updates for after-midnight, to minimize the number of users affected by whatever-it-is being down. The only exception to this is if something is fairly redundant. I'm willing to do work on one of the incoming mail servers or DNS servers, for instance, since there are several of those and one being down for a few minutes during the day won't even be noticed. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
The majority of the data is traffic statistics. In V4 you can set the dude to store much more historical data than in V3 so instead of having a monthly graph that shows averaged data you can have a daily or hourly graph that goes back months and therefore gives a much more accurate historical view of network usage. Unfortunately, downgrading back to V3 will loose much of this functionality so isn’t really an option either. Many thanks, Paul. _ From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 19:45 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Yes I did. I was unaware that in the migration to v4 it utilized SQLite instead of file storage. Perhaps you can load up another box and downgrade to 3.6 and see if you run into this issue. Are you holding a lot of NPKs for upgrades? I found this was an issue when I tried to back up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Josh, Did you actually read the original post? The latest dude beta versions run a backend database not files. The backend database is SQLite and it is when the database reaches a file size of 2GB that Dude stops working. The question remains, which element is causing this bottleneck and is there a work around? Paul. _ From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 19:18 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I gave you a work around, change to RouterOS. I'm not sure where SQlite is involved, but you don't have any options with Dude in terms of storage. It simply stores it in files. I don't see how you're hitting 2GB for the Dude, where are you seeing this number? Can you load a demo copy of RouterOS and import your backup and see if the issue is seen there as well? Some linux distro? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi guys, I don’t want to suggest this thread has been hijacked but can we get back to the original question? Does anyone know if the 2GB limit is OS, SQLite or Dude related and if there is any work around? Many thanks, Paul. _ From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 19 October 2010 17:15 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I read something complaining updates were released every Tuesday for 6 weeks. Updates are definitely good, but on servers you have to manually intervene. I don't want to use my time on that. Biggest patch Tuesday ever was last week or week before, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Second Tuesday of the month, except for out-of-cycle patches, no? Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Every Tuesday for Windows. How often for RouterOS? I still have 2.9.x boxes out there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: This is what I was referring to. I don't want to spend my nights updating Windows. Spending your nights updating FreeBSD or Linux isn't any better. No matter what you're running, it probably will need occasional updates. I almost always try to schedule those updates for after-midnight, to minimize the number of users affected by whatever-it-is being down. The only exception to this is if something is fairly redundant. I'm willing to do work on one of the incoming mail servers or DNS servers, for instance, since there are several of those and one being down for a few minutes during the day won't even be noticed. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
First thing I would do is put it on RouterOS and see if it's some sort of Windows issue. If the problem still exists on RouterOS, you have a lot more ground to stand on when bringing it up to Mikrotik. I would use the forum. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: The majority of the data is traffic statistics. In V4 you can set the dude to store much more historical data than in V3 so instead of having a monthly graph that shows averaged data you can have a daily or hourly graph that goes back months and therefore gives a much more accurate historical view of network usage. Unfortunately, downgrading back to V3 will loose much of this functionality so isn’t really an option either. Many thanks, Paul. -- *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* 19 October 2010 19:45 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Yes I did. I was unaware that in the migration to v4 it utilized SQLite instead of file storage. Perhaps you can load up another box and downgrade to 3.6 and see if you run into this issue. Are you holding a lot of NPKs for upgrades? I found this was an issue when I tried to back up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Josh, Did you actually read the original post? The latest dude beta versions run a backend database not files. The backend database is SQLite and it is when the database reaches a file size of 2GB that Dude stops working. The question remains, which element is causing this bottleneck and is there a work around? Paul. -- *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* 19 October 2010 19:18 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I gave you a work around, change to RouterOS. I'm not sure where SQlite is involved, but you don't have any options with Dude in terms of storage. It simply stores it in files. I don't see how you're hitting 2GB for the Dude, where are you seeing this number? Can you load a demo copy of RouterOS and import your backup and see if the issue is seen there as well? Some linux distro? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi guys, I don’t want to suggest this thread has been hijacked but can we get back to the original question? Does anyone know if the 2GB limit is OS, SQLite or Dude related and if there is any work around? Many thanks, Paul. -- *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* 19 October 2010 17:15 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I read something complaining updates were released every Tuesday for 6 weeks. Updates are definitely good, but on servers you have to manually intervene. I don't want to use my time on that. Biggest patch Tuesday ever was last week or week before, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Second Tuesday of the month, except for out-of-cycle patches, no? Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Every Tuesday for Windows. How often for RouterOS? I still have 2.9.x boxes out there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: This is what I was referring to. I don't want to spend my nights updating Windows. Spending your nights updating FreeBSD or Linux isn't any better. No matter what you're running, it probably will need occasional updates. I almost always try to schedule those updates for after-midnight, to minimize the number of users affected by whatever-it-is being down. The only exception to this is if something is fairly redundant. I'm willing to do work on one of the incoming mail servers or DNS servers, for instance, since there are several of those and one being down for a few minutes during the day won't even be noticed. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
Already raised on the forum but as with many issues on there, no input from MT and hence the question here. Thought that if anyone had seen this before that they would be on WISPA somewhere ;) I'll bring up a VM tomorrow with RouterOS just to rule it out of the equation. Many thanks, Paul. -original message- Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Date: 19/10/2010 9:10 pm First thing I would do is put it on RouterOS and see if it's some sort of Windows issue. If the problem still exists on RouterOS, you have a lot more ground to stand on when bringing it up to Mikrotik. I would use the forum. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: The majority of the data is traffic statistics. In V4 you can set the dude to store much more historical data than in V3 so instead of having a monthly graph that shows averaged data you can have a daily or hourly graph that goes back months and therefore gives a much more accurate historical view of network usage. Unfortunately, downgrading back to V3 will loose much of this functionality so isn’t really an option either. Many thanks, Paul. -- *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* 19 October 2010 19:45 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Yes I did. I was unaware that in the migration to v4 it utilized SQLite instead of file storage. Perhaps you can load up another box and downgrade to 3.6 and see if you run into this issue. Are you holding a lot of NPKs for upgrades? I found this was an issue when I tried to back up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Josh, Did you actually read the original post? The latest dude beta versions run a backend database not files. The backend database is SQLite and it is when the database reaches a file size of 2GB that Dude stops working. The question remains, which element is causing this bottleneck and is there a work around? Paul. -- *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* 19 October 2010 19:18 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I gave you a work around, change to RouterOS. I'm not sure where SQlite is involved, but you don't have any options with Dude in terms of storage. It simply stores it in files. I don't see how you're hitting 2GB for the Dude, where are you seeing this number? Can you load a demo copy of RouterOS and import your backup and see if the issue is seen there as well? Some linux distro? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi guys, I don’t want to suggest this thread has been hijacked but can we get back to the original question? Does anyone know if the 2GB limit is OS, SQLite or Dude related and if there is any work around? Many thanks, Paul. -- *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* 19 October 2010 17:15 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I read something complaining updates were released every Tuesday for 6 weeks. Updates are definitely good, but on servers you have to manually intervene. I don't want to use my time on that. Biggest patch Tuesday ever was last week or week before, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Second Tuesday of the month, except for out-of-cycle patches, no? Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Every Tuesday for Windows. How often for RouterOS? I still have 2.9.x boxes out there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:23, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: This is what I was referring to. I don't want to spend my nights updating Windows. Spending your nights updating FreeBSD or Linux isn't any better. No matter what you're running, it probably will need occasional updates. I almost always try to schedule those updates for after-midnight, to minimize the number of users affected by whatever-it-is being down. The only exception to this is if something is fairly redundant. I'm willing to do work
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation
Let us know how that goes. I wonder if this 2GB limit is going to be a major issue. Still surprised logs, graphs and numbers are 2GB. You can compress text so well that seems like more data then anyone could ever use in a life time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Already raised on the forum but as with many issues on there, no input from MT and hence the question here. Thought that if anyone had seen this before that they would be on WISPA somewhere ;) I'll bring up a VM tomorrow with RouterOS just to rule it out of the equation. Many thanks, Paul. -original message- Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Date: 19/10/2010 9:10 pm First thing I would do is put it on RouterOS and see if it's some sort of Windows issue. If the problem still exists on RouterOS, you have a lot more ground to stand on when bringing it up to Mikrotik. I would use the forum. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: The majority of the data is traffic statistics. In V4 you can set the dude to store much more historical data than in V3 so instead of having a monthly graph that shows averaged data you can have a daily or hourly graph that goes back months and therefore gives a much more accurate historical view of network usage. Unfortunately, downgrading back to V3 will loose much of this functionality so isn’t really an option either. Many thanks, Paul. -- *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* 19 October 2010 19:45 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation Yes I did. I was unaware that in the migration to v4 it utilized SQLite instead of file storage. Perhaps you can load up another box and downgrade to 3.6 and see if you run into this issue. Are you holding a lot of NPKs for upgrades? I found this was an issue when I tried to back up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Josh, Did you actually read the original post? The latest dude beta versions run a backend database not files. The backend database is SQLite and it is when the database reaches a file size of 2GB that Dude stops working. The question remains, which element is causing this bottleneck and is there a work around? Paul. -- *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* 19 October 2010 19:18 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I gave you a work around, change to RouterOS. I'm not sure where SQlite is involved, but you don't have any options with Dude in terms of storage. It simply stores it in files. I don't see how you're hitting 2GB for the Dude, where are you seeing this number? Can you load a demo copy of RouterOS and import your backup and see if the issue is seen there as well? Some linux distro? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Hi guys, I don’t want to suggest this thread has been hijacked but can we get back to the original question? Does anyone know if the 2GB limit is OS, SQLite or Dude related and if there is any work around? Many thanks, Paul. -- *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* 19 October 2010 17:15 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Dude 2GB Limitation I read something complaining updates were released every Tuesday for 6 weeks. Updates are definitely good, but on servers you have to manually intervene. I don't want to use my time on that. Biggest patch Tuesday ever was last week or week before, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Second Tuesday of the month, except for out-of-cycle patches, no? Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Every Tuesday for Windows. How often for RouterOS? I still have 2.9.x boxes out there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH
