Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
I've got a short backhaul (.1 mile) PtMP and it definitely works better with AirMax on. I forget if I'm using the no-ack feature. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Airmax should be used on P2P only for high-distance (~50km or more) links. Keep WDS on but turn Airmax off. Throughput depends on distance, but for a 5km link with 20 MHz channel you should get 50 Mbps using large packets. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
Better not be. It makes the link perform like crap. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a short backhaul (.1 mile) PtMP and it definitely works better with AirMax on. I forget if I'm using the no-ack feature. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Airmax should be used on P2P only for high-distance (~50km or more) links. Keep WDS on but turn Airmax off. Throughput depends on distance, but for a 5km link with 20 MHz channel you should get 50 Mbps using large packets. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
You are correct, I have it off. I just checked. Greg On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Better not be. It makes the link perform like crap. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a short backhaul (.1 mile) PtMP and it definitely works better with AirMax on. I forget if I'm using the no-ack feature. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Airmax should be used on P2P only for high-distance (~50km or more) links. Keep WDS on but turn Airmax off. Throughput depends on distance, but for a 5km link with 20 MHz channel you should get 50 Mbps using large packets. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
I hate to counter.. All of my links are with Airmax on.. including short ones, and they perform better with Airmax than without. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 7/26/2011 11:22 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: You are correct, I have it off. I just checked. Greg On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Better not be. It makes the link perform like crap. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com mailto:os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a short backhaul (.1 mile) PtMP and it definitely works better with AirMax on. I forget if I'm using the no-ack feature. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com mailto:pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Airmax should be used on P2P only for high-distance (~50km or more) links. Keep WDS on but turn Airmax off. Throughput depends on distance, but for a 5km link with 20 MHz channel you should get 50 Mbps using large packets. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
I am referring to the no-ack feature of AirMax. I, too, have Airmax on all my links. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.netwrote: I hate to counter.. All of my links are with Airmax on.. including short ones, and they perform better with Airmax than without. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 7/26/2011 11:22 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: You are correct, I have it off. I just checked. Greg On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Better not be. It makes the link perform like crap. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a short backhaul (.1 mile) PtMP and it definitely works better with AirMax on. I forget if I'm using the no-ack feature. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Airmax should be used on P2P only for high-distance (~50km or more) links. Keep WDS on but turn Airmax off. Throughput depends on distance, but for a 5km link with 20 MHz channel you should get 50 Mbps using large packets. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Tried again and this time airmax off seems to have done the trick. Is there any suggested settings in Advanced tab for a 2km link? Turning auto-ACK off and setting it to 3km is probably a good thing. Getting different results with the same configuration suggests interference from something outside of your control... Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
Yes, and we powered it down so that we had a -60. I just wanted to illustrate that it is not a poor signal issue. Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
It is routed, using miktrotik routers. Do I use WDS with airmax? I don't think it is a loop because the other bridges are basically doing the same thing but not seeing the same problem. They are Trango link 45's Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Sounds like you are creating a loop somewhere... Is this a routed network ? or a bridge Network. (Make sure that you have WDS on for fully transparent bridge) and also make sure you turn off Enable Discovery in the first tab (picture of airmax logo)... (equivalent CDP in the cisco world). Also keep in mind that if you are using Cisco Switches in your network.. and it is a bridge network.. Cisco's by default have STP ON not OFF as one would expect. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 12:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
Always do WDS for backhauls. On Jul 25, 2011 1:31 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: It is routed, using miktrotik routers. Do I use WDS with airmax? I don't think it is a loop because the other bridges are basically doing the same thing but not seeing the same problem. They are Trango link 45's Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Sounds like you are creating a loop somewhere... Is this a routed network ? or a bridge Network. (Make sure that you have WDS on for fully transparent bridge) and also make sure you turn off Enable Discovery in the first tab (picture of airmax logo)... (equivalent CDP in the cisco world). Also keep in mind that if you are using Cisco Switches in your network.. and it is a bridge network.. Cisco's by default have STP ON not OFF as one would expect. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 12:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
The reason I ask is because we are using WDS on some M2 PtMP installations to relay connections to neighbors that are near other customers. A tech from UBNT told us that WDS is not designed to work with Airmax and it may be causing some issues with throughput especially upload. Has anyone else found this to be the case? We are needing to be able to consistently carry 50mbps or so off of these M5 bridges, is that doable or are we asking too much of this equipment? Thanks, Pat From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:35 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: fai...@snappydsl.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency Always do WDS for backhauls. On Jul 25, 2011 1:31 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: It is routed, using miktrotik routers. Do I use WDS with airmax? I don't think it is a loop because the other bridges are basically doing the same thing but not seeing the same problem. They are Trango link 45's Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Sounds like you are creating a loop somewhere... Is this a routed network ? or a bridge Network. (Make sure that you have WDS on for fully transparent bridge) and also make sure you turn off Enable Discovery in the first tab (picture of airmax logo)... (equivalent CDP in the cisco world). Also keep in mind that if you are using Cisco Switches in your network.. and it is a bridge network.. Cisco's by default have STP ON not OFF as one would expect. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 12:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
We run everything with AirMax on and WDS enabled. If there is an issue with AirMax and WDS this is the first I have heard of it. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency The reason I ask is because we are using WDS on some M2 PtMP installations to relay connections to neighbors that are near other customers. A tech from UBNT told us that WDS is not designed to work with Airmax and it may be causing some issues with throughput especially upload. Has anyone else found this to be the case? We are needing to be able to consistently carry 50mbps or so off of these M5 bridges, is that doable or are we asking too much of this equipment? Thanks, Pat From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:35 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: fai...@snappydsl.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency Always do WDS for backhauls. On Jul 25, 2011 1:31 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.commailto:pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: It is routed, using miktrotik routers. Do I use WDS with airmax? I don't think it is a loop because the other bridges are basically doing the same thing but not seeing the same problem. They are Trango link 45's Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.netmailto:fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Sounds like you are creating a loop somewhere... Is this a routed network ? or a bridge Network. (Make sure that you have WDS on for fully transparent bridge) and also make sure you turn off Enable Discovery in the first tab (picture of airmax logo)... (equivalent CDP in the cisco world). Also keep in mind that if you are using Cisco Switches in your network.. and it is a bridge network.. Cisco's by default have STP ON not OFF as one would expect. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 12:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NEThttp://CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3787 - Release Date: 07/25/11
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
Same situation here as Jerry's Maybe you're thinking of Mikrotik's nv2 and WDS? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: We run everything with AirMax on and WDS enabled. ** ** If there is an issue with AirMax and WDS this is the first I have heard of it. ** ** - Jerry ** ** *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Patrick D. Nix, Jr *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2011 11:06 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency ** ** The reason I ask is because we are using WDS on some M2 PtMP installations to relay connections to neighbors that are near other customers. A tech from UBNT told us that WDS is not designed to work with Airmax and it may be causing some issues with throughput especially upload. Has anyone else found this to be the case? We are needing to be able to consistently carry 50mbps or so off of these M5 bridges, is that doable or are we asking too much of this equipment? ** ** Thanks, Pat ** ** *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2011 12:35 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Cc:* fai...@snappydsl.net *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency ** ** Always do WDS for backhauls. On Jul 25, 2011 1:31 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: It is routed, using miktrotik routers. Do I use WDS with airmax? I don't think it is a loop because the other bridges are basically doing the same thing but not seeing the same problem. They are Trango link 45's Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Sounds like you are creating a loop somewhere... Is this a routed network ? or a bridge Network. (Make sure that you have WDS on for fully transparent bridge) and also make sure you turn off Enable Discovery in the first tab (picture of airmax logo)... (equivalent CDP in the cisco world). Also keep in mind that if you are using Cisco Switches in your network.. and it is a bridge network.. Cisco's by default have STP ON not OFF as one would expect. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 12:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
Yes, in the UBIQUITY World, if you want a transparent bridge... use WDS (so ... wds always !). and YES, turn on AIRMAX... (Airmax is proprietary to Ubiquity, so two UBNT radios are much happier with Airmax on, plus with Airmax is not 'compatible' with standards 802.11a/b/g/n so other radios will see the signal but will not attempts to connect. How wide are the channels, and is there any interference on them ? Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 7/25/2011 1:33 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: It is routed, using miktrotik routers. Do I use WDS with airmax? I don't think it is a loop because the other bridges are basically doing the same thing but not seeing the same problem. They are Trango link 45's Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Sounds like you are creating a loop somewhere... Is this a routed network ? or a bridge Network. (Make sure that you have WDS on for fully transparent bridge) and also make sure you turn off Enable Discovery in the first tab (picture of airmax logo)... (equivalent CDP in the cisco world). Also keep in mind that if you are using Cisco Switches in your network.. and it is a bridge network.. Cisco's by default have STP ON not OFF as one would expect. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 12:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET http://CSWEB.NETInternet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Yes, in the UBIQUITY World, if you want a transparent bridge... use WDS (so ... wds always !). and YES, turn on AIRMAX... (Airmax is proprietary to Ubiquity, so two UBNT radios are much happier with Airmax on, plus with Airmax is not 'compatible' with standards 802.11a/b/g/n so other radios will see the signal but will not attempts to connect. How wide are the channels, and is there any interference on them ? Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 7/25/2011 1:33 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: It is routed, using miktrotik routers. Do I use WDS with airmax? I don't think it is a loop because the other bridges are basically doing the same thing but not seeing the same problem. They are Trango link 45's Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Sounds like you are creating a loop somewhere... Is this a routed network ? or a bridge Network. (Make sure that you have WDS on for fully transparent bridge) and also make sure you turn off Enable Discovery in the first tab (picture of airmax logo)... (equivalent CDP in the cisco world). Also keep in mind that if you are using Cisco Switches in your network.. and it is a bridge network.. Cisco's by default have STP ON not OFF as one would expect. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 12:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
How are you testing ? via Radios or via the Mikrotik's behind the radios ? What is the Recieve test by itself showing and what is the Transmit test by it'self showing. also double check to make sure that the MT's and the Radios have ethernet handshake correct. You may have to ssh into the radio's and issue the following commands to make sure that ethernet interfaces are not dropping any packets. ... ifconfigto show status or ethtool eth0 to show handshake... As a rule.. you should expect to see about 50% to 75% of the air-rate in each direction.(not running duplex test). Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 5:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Yes, in the UBIQUITY World, if you want a transparent bridge... use WDS (so ... wds always !). and YES, turn on AIRMAX... (Airmax is proprietary to Ubiquity, so two UBNT radios are much happier with Airmax on, plus with Airmax is not 'compatible' with standards 802.11a/b/g/n so other radios will see the signal but will not attempts to connect. How wide are the channels, and is there any interference on them ? Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email:supp...@snappydsl.net mailto:supp...@snappydsl.net On 7/25/2011 1:33 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: It is routed, using miktrotik routers. Do I use WDS with airmax? I don't think it is a loop because the other bridges are basically doing the same thing but not seeing the same problem. They are Trango link 45's Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Sounds like you are creating a loop somewhere... Is this a routed network ? or a bridge Network. (Make sure that you have WDS on for fully transparent bridge) and also make sure you turn off Enable Discovery in the first tab (picture of airmax logo)... (equivalent CDP in the cisco world). Also keep in mind that if you are using Cisco Switches in your network.. and it is a bridge network.. Cisco's by default have STP ON not OFF as one would expect. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 12:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET http://CSWEB.NETInternet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
Faisal, call me at 2603074000 this ebening Rick Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: How are you testing ? via Radios or via the Mikrotik's behind the radios ? What is the Recieve test by itself showing and what is the Transmit test by it'self showing. also double check to make sure that the MT's and the Radios have ethernet handshake correct. You may have to ssh into the radio's and issue the following commands to make sure that ethernet interfaces are not dropping any packets. ... ifconfigto show status or ethtool eth0 to show handshake... As a rule.. you should expect to see about 50% to 75% of the air-rate in each direction.(not running duplex test). Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 5:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Yes, in the UBIQUITY World, if you want a transparent bridge... use WDS (so ... wds always !). and YES, turn on AIRMAX... (Airmax is proprietary to Ubiquity, so two UBNT radios are much happier with Airmax on, plus with Airmax is not 'compatible' with standards 802.11a/b/g/n so other radios will see the signal but will not attempts to connect. How wide are the channels, and is there any interference on them ? Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email:supp...@snappydsl.net mailto:supp...@snappydsl.net On 7/25/2011 1:33 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: It is routed, using miktrotik routers. Do I use WDS with airmax? I don't think it is a loop because the other bridges are basically doing the same thing but not seeing the same problem. They are Trango link 45's Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Sounds like you are creating a loop somewhere... Is this a routed network ? or a bridge Network. (Make sure that you have WDS on for fully transparent bridge) and also make sure you turn off Enable Discovery in the first tab (picture of airmax logo)... (equivalent CDP in the cisco world). Also keep in mind that if you are using Cisco Switches in your network.. and it is a bridge network.. Cisco's by default have STP ON not OFF as one would expect. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 12:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET http://CSWEB.NETInternet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
This is testing with pc on either end of the radio, plugged in 100fdx ethernet with iperf. Didn't check ota built-in speedtest. No other traffic on radio. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: How are you testing ? via Radios or via the Mikrotik's behind the radios ? What is the Recieve test by itself showing and what is the Transmit test by it'self showing. also double check to make sure that the MT's and the Radios have ethernet handshake correct. You may have to ssh into the radio's and issue the following commands to make sure that ethernet interfaces are not dropping any packets. ... ifconfigto show status or ethtool eth0 to show handshake... As a rule.. you should expect to see about 50% to 75% of the air-rate in each direction.(not running duplex test). Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 5:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Yes, in the UBIQUITY World, if you want a transparent bridge... use WDS (so ... wds always !). and YES, turn on AIRMAX... (Airmax is proprietary to Ubiquity, so two UBNT radios are much happier with Airmax on, plus with Airmax is not 'compatible' with standards 802.11a/b/g/n so other radios will see the signal but will not attempts to connect. How wide are the channels, and is there any interference on them ? Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 7/25/2011 1:33 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: It is routed, using miktrotik routers. Do I use WDS with airmax? I don't think it is a loop because the other bridges are basically doing the same thing but not seeing the same problem. They are Trango link 45's Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Sounds like you are creating a loop somewhere... Is this a routed network ? or a bridge Network. (Make sure that you have WDS on for fully transparent bridge) and also make sure you turn off Enable Discovery in the first tab (picture of airmax logo)... (equivalent CDP in the cisco world). Also keep in mind that if you are using Cisco Switches in your network.. and it is a bridge network.. Cisco's by default have STP ON not OFF as one would expect. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 12:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You!
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
Did you do multiple/single UDP/TCP streams? Usually you want to do two or three to get close to full capacity. On a 10 Mhz channel I am getting 40 mbps with little noise on 3 foot dishes at 15 miles. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: This is testing with pc on either end of the radio, plugged in 100fdx ethernet with iperf. Didn't check ota built-in speedtest. No other traffic on radio. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: How are you testing ? via Radios or via the Mikrotik's behind the radios ? What is the Recieve test by itself showing and what is the Transmit test by it'self showing. also double check to make sure that the MT's and the Radios have ethernet handshake correct. You may have to ssh into the radio's and issue the following commands to make sure that ethernet interfaces are not dropping any packets. ... ifconfigto show status or ethtool eth0 to show handshake... As a rule.. you should expect to see about 50% to 75% of the air-rate in each direction.(not running duplex test). Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 5:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Yes, in the UBIQUITY World, if you want a transparent bridge... use WDS (so ... wds always !). and YES, turn on AIRMAX... (Airmax is proprietary to Ubiquity, so two UBNT radios are much happier with Airmax on, plus with Airmax is not 'compatible' with standards 802.11a/b/g/n so other radios will see the signal but will not attempts to connect. How wide are the channels, and is there any interference on them ? Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.netsupp...@snappydsl.net On 7/25/2011 1:33 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: It is routed, using miktrotik routers. Do I use WDS with airmax? I don't think it is a loop because the other bridges are basically doing the same thing but not seeing the same problem. They are Trango link 45's Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Sounds like you are creating a loop somewhere... Is this a routed network ? or a bridge Network. (Make sure that you have WDS on for fully transparent bridge) and also make sure you turn off Enable Discovery in the first tab (picture of airmax logo)... (equivalent CDP in the cisco world). Also keep in mind that if you are using Cisco Switches in your network.. and it is a bridge network.. Cisco's by default have STP ON not OFF as one would expect. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/25/2011 12:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? ** ** Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions http://CSWEB.NETCSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.comhttp://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.nethttp://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 -- Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. ** ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Airmax should be used on P2P only for high-distance (~50km or more) links. Keep WDS on but turn Airmax off. Throughput depends on distance, but for a 5km link with 20 MHz channel you should get 50 Mbps using large packets. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
I tried airmax off but the link is almost unusable. Is there any advanced settings I need to change? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: Ok, so WDS fixed the latency. At 20mhz channel and 100%ccq what should our actual throughput be. We are only seeing 20mbps max. Airmax should be used on P2P only for high-distance (~50km or more) links. Keep WDS on but turn Airmax off. Throughput depends on distance, but for a 5km link with 20 MHz channel you should get 50 Mbps using large packets. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: I tried airmax off but the link is almost unusable. Is there any advanced settings I need to change? The other scenario where Airmax makes better goodput is interference, either from your tower or from others. Shielding the Rocket might do the trick, then. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
Tried again and this time airmax off seems to have done the trick. Is there any suggested settings in Advanced tab for a 2km link? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 9:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: I tried airmax off but the link is almost unusable. Is there any advanced settings I need to change? The other scenario where Airmax makes better goodput is interference, either from your tower or from others. Shielding the Rocket might do the trick, then. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
Low 50s is about where you want to be for a link. Now the 40s is a bit much. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/25/2011 11:40 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET http://CSWEB.NETInternet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5 Dish high latency
Mine at max modulation is 51 if that helps. On Jul 25, 2011 11:48 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Low 50s is about where you want to be for a link. Now the 40s is a bit much. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/25/2011 11:40 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Isn't -53 a little too hot? Are you using WDS? I don't know if AirMax has changed this but I know one used to need to run with WDS on for a purely transparent bridge. Greg On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: We are working on deploying a pair of M5 dishes on our network bridging point a and point b. When we plug in the network to the dishes, the ping times climb to 1200+ms on side b of the bridge, and equipment local to the side b of the bridge, and time out after two or more hops, essentially bringing the whole network down. We can ping point to point with no traffic at 2ms. We are replacing a pair of existing bridges from another manuf. and not seeing this issue over these. Signal is -53dbm on both sides. -85 noise floor. Any ideas? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET http://CSWEB.NETInternet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5
Using only 20 mhz, notice the airspeed is 130/117 which is pretty close to full modulation. Regards Michael Baird I've got a 10 mile link with two Ubiquiti 2ft dishes -60 or so on both sides, I can get 77 megs one way and 58 the other, one side has some noise issues hurting throughput. This was mcs15 130/117. What is the channel size? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5
I've got a 10 mile link with two Ubiquiti 2ft dishes -60 or so on both sides, I can get 77 megs one way and 58 the other, one side has some noise issues hurting throughput. This was mcs15 130/117. Regards Michael Baird What kind of realistic throughput are people getting out of these? 10, 20 and 40meg channels? Where I want to try one I doubt I can spare 40meg of 5.8. Was thinking of a 3 foot dual polarity dish and big backhaul. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5
Oops, actually that's wrong. I've got a rocket m5/rocketdish 30 on one side, and a rocket m5/rocket 120/19 db sector on the other. Regards Michael Baird I've got a 10 mile link with two Ubiquiti 2ft dishes -60 or so on both sides, I can get 77 megs one way and 58 the other, one side has some noise issues hurting throughput. This was mcs15 130/117. Regards Michael Baird What kind of realistic throughput are people getting out of these? 10, 20 and 40meg channels? Where I want to try one I doubt I can spare 40meg of 5.8. Was thinking of a 3 foot dual polarity dish and big backhaul. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5
I have a nano5 almost 2 miles out that can push 130 in tests. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 3:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Rocket M5 What kind of realistic throughput are people getting out of these? 10, 20 and 40meg channels? Where I want to try one I doubt I can spare 40meg of 5.8. Was thinking of a 3 foot dual polarity dish and big backhaul. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5
I've got a 10 mile link with two Ubiquiti 2ft dishes -60 or so on both sides, I can get 77 megs one way and 58 the other, one side has some noise issues hurting throughput. This was mcs15 130/117. What is the channel size? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5
We have a 27 Mile engineered link with Rocket 5's using Pac Wireless 3 foot dual pole dishes. -71 db signal 62 down and 38 up on normal days, bad weather days get 40 down and 23 up. On 40Mhz channels btw. Ryan On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a 10 mile link with two Ubiquiti 2ft dishes -60 or so on both sides, I can get 77 megs one way and 58 the other, one side has some noise issues hurting throughput. This was mcs15 130/117. What is the channel size? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5
Is that a 'ptp' link or a 'ptmp' link? The sector hints at this being the latter. Also, what sort of pps are you seeing on this link? ryan On Apr 26, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: Oops, actually that's wrong. I've got a rocket m5/rocketdish 30 on one side, and a rocket m5/rocket 120/19 db sector on the other. Regards Michael Baird I've got a 10 mile link with two Ubiquiti 2ft dishes -60 or so on both sides, I can get 77 megs one way and 58 the other, one side has some noise issues hurting throughput. This was mcs15 130/117. Regards Michael Baird What kind of realistic throughput are people getting out of these? 10, 20 and 40meg channels? Where I want to try one I doubt I can spare 40meg of 5.8. Was thinking of a 3 foot dual polarity dish and big backhaul. Matt --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5
That takes me to a question: Does it make a difference if you use two RocketdishM5 for both ends or another brand (Mikrotik, StarOS, etc) on one end? On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: Oops, actually that's wrong. I've got a rocket m5/rocketdish 30 on one side, and a rocket m5/rocket 120/19 db sector on the other. Regards Michael Baird I've got a 10 mile link with two Ubiquiti 2ft dishes -60 or so on both sides, I can get 77 megs one way and 58 the other, one side has some noise issues hurting throughput. This was mcs15 130/117. Regards Michael Baird What kind of realistic throughput are people getting out of these? 10, 20 and 40meg channels? Where I want to try one I doubt I can spare 40meg of 5.8. Was thinking of a 3 foot dual polarity dish and big backhaul. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
