RE: [WISPA] SR9 cards......

2006-04-04 Thread tonylist
Blair

What price points are you looking at for this setup? For now we are looking
at these more for a back haul where you can get 2.4Ghz into a an area that
is otherwise hard to reach. We are working on a 900Mhz CPE design also and
hope to have is ready by Q2 using a lower cost design but still need to do
more testing. 

Sincerely, Tony Morella
Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008
http://www.demarctech.com 
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SR9 cards..

Tony,

I hope so.  However, I am running out of time.  Let me give you a little
background.

I have a 2.4GHz system running that covers most of my county.  It is a
mixture of 802.11 and TurboCell.  The TurboCell provides back haul and
service for  long range clients, (>3 miles), or for NLoS clients at short
range. I use the 802.11 for short range, LoS clients (<3 miles). 
This has worked well for us in the past, but, the increasing bandwidth
demands are overloading our TurboCell back hauls, increasing noise levels
are decreasing the usable range of our 802.11 AP's, (in one area we no
longer deploy 802.11 CPE's at all, just TurboCell).

I am now deploying a 5.8GHz Netstream system to replace my TurboCell back
hauls.  I am also looking into polled systems on 2.4GHz to replace my
TurboCell CPE's and AP's.  Netstream is my most likely choice here as well,
but I am open to other polled systems on 2.4GHz as well.

I have one PtP link using TurboCell with RF Linx 915UDC units to get thru a
severe NLoS for a single user.  This was a very expensive deployment and the
average customer would not pay for it.  I tested several 900MHz systems and
found them wanting before settling on the RF Linx UDC's..

I now have several subdivisions, heavily tree infested, that want service.
They will not accept large towers and antennas on each home, but they will
accept a single large tower to serve the entire subdivision, so a 900MHz or
less system for local distribution is the only reasonable option I can come
up with.  None of the existing 900MHz systems I have looked at will both
provide 360deg coverage and adequate tree penetration using a single AP, and
I can not justify 6 60deg AP's for a subdivision that might have 20 sign-ups
total.  Netstream using
SR9 cards seems tailor made for this.

Based on the expected ship dates for the SR9, I was expecting to begin
testing the SR9/Netstream system in the next week or so and begin deployment
by the end of this month.  Now, it looks like I won't even be able to start
testing until the end of May.  Even getting a pair of the cards to begin
testing with would ease my pain and that of the eagerly waiting
customers

I am really getting up against the wall here.  My time is running out and I
must find my answer soon.



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>Blair
>
>We have received samples and the cards are working well, UB wanted to make
>sure these radios are 100% before releasing 900Mhz is much more difficult
>then 2.4 or even 5Ghz. It will be worth the wait.
>
>Sincerely, Tony Morella
>Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
>Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008
>http://www.demarctech.com 
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Re: [WISPA] SR9 cards......

2006-04-03 Thread Travis Johnson

Hi,

I currently have 20+ Trango 900mhz AP's with omni directional antennas 
that will push 2-3 miles NLOS without a problem. I think what you should 
have said was "I can't find a cheap enough solution to do what I want" 
instead of "there is nothing available". With over 500 Trango 900mhz 
CPE's deployed, the product works well thru heavy trees. :)


Travis
Microserv

Blair Davis wrote:


Tony,

I hope so.  However, I am running out of time.  Let me give you a 
little background.


I have a 2.4GHz system running that covers most of my county.  It is a 
mixture of 802.11 and TurboCell.  The TurboCell provides back haul and 
service for  long range clients, (>3 miles), or for NLoS clients at 
short range. I use the 802.11 for short range, LoS clients (<3 miles). 
This has worked well for us in the past, but, the increasing bandwidth 
demands are overloading our TurboCell back hauls, increasing noise 
levels are decreasing the usable range of our 802.11 AP's, (in one 
area we no longer deploy 802.11 CPE's at all, just TurboCell).


I am now deploying a 5.8GHz Netstream system to replace my TurboCell 
back hauls.  I am also looking into polled systems on 2.4GHz to 
replace my TurboCell CPE's and AP's.  Netstream is my most likely 
choice here as well, but I am open to other polled systems on 2.4GHz 
as well.


I have one PtP link using TurboCell with RF Linx 915UDC units to get 
thru a severe NLoS for a single user.  This was a very expensive 
deployment and the average customer would not pay for it.  I tested 
several 900MHz systems and found them wanting before settling on the 
RF Linx UDC's..


I now have several subdivisions, heavily tree infested, that want 
service.  They will not accept large towers and antennas on each home, 
but they will accept a single large tower to serve the entire 
subdivision, so a 900MHz or less system for local distribution is the 
only reasonable option I can come up with.  None of the existing 
900MHz systems I have looked at will both provide 360deg coverage and 
adequate tree penetration using a single AP, and I can not justify 6 
60deg AP's for a subdivision that might have 20 sign-ups total.  
Netstream using SR9 cards seems tailor made for this.


Based on the expected ship dates for the SR9, I was expecting to begin 
testing the SR9/Netstream system in the next week or so and begin 
deployment by the end of this month.  Now, it looks like I won't even 
be able to start testing until the end of May.  Even getting a pair of 
the cards to begin testing with would ease my pain and that of the 
eagerly waiting customers


I am really getting up against the wall here.  My time is running out 
and I must find my answer soon.




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Blair

We have received samples and the cards are working well, UB wanted to 
make
sure these radios are 100% before releasing 900Mhz is much more 
difficult

then 2.4 or even 5Ghz. It will be worth the wait.

Sincerely, Tony Morella
Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008
http://www.demarctech.com
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] SR9 cards..

It seems that the delivery date on the SR9 cards from Ubiquiti 
Networks is

now the 2nd week of May

It was first of the year, then March, then April, now May

Can you say 'vaporware'?


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West Michigan Wireless ISP
269-686-8648

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Re: [WISPA] SR9 cards......

2006-04-03 Thread Carl A Jeptha
me too. Growth amongst the Ganaraska Forests here in the "Rolling Hills 
of Northumberland County" is starting to demand a "nlos" solution.
And we like to use off the shelf industry standard equipment, no 
proprietary equipment is our motto - We paid $45,000 dollars for it and 
still have the proof. :-)

Apparently Tranzeo is Beta Testing also.

You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Blair Davis wrote:

Tony,

I hope so.  However, I am running out of time.  Let me give you a 
little background.


I have a 2.4GHz system running that covers most of my county.  It is a 
mixture of 802.11 and TurboCell.  The TurboCell provides back haul and 
service for  long range clients, (>3 miles), or for NLoS clients at 
short range. I use the 802.11 for short range, LoS clients (<3 miles). 
This has worked well for us in the past, but, the increasing bandwidth 
demands are overloading our TurboCell back hauls, increasing noise 
levels are decreasing the usable range of our 802.11 AP's, (in one 
area we no longer deploy 802.11 CPE's at all, just TurboCell).


I am now deploying a 5.8GHz Netstream system to replace my TurboCell 
back hauls.  I am also looking into polled systems on 2.4GHz to 
replace my TurboCell CPE's and AP's.  Netstream is my most likely 
choice here as well, but I am open to other polled systems on 2.4GHz 
as well.


I have one PtP link using TurboCell with RF Linx 915UDC units to get 
thru a severe NLoS for a single user.  This was a very expensive 
deployment and the average customer would not pay for it.  I tested 
several 900MHz systems and found them wanting before settling on the 
RF Linx UDC's..


I now have several subdivisions, heavily tree infested, that want 
service.  They will not accept large towers and antennas on each home, 
but they will accept a single large tower to serve the entire 
subdivision, so a 900MHz or less system for local distribution is the 
only reasonable option I can come up with.  None of the existing 
900MHz systems I have looked at will both provide 360deg coverage and 
adequate tree penetration using a single AP, and I can not justify 6 
60deg AP's for a subdivision that might have 20 sign-ups total.  
Netstream using SR9 cards seems tailor made for this.


Based on the expected ship dates for the SR9, I was expecting to begin 
testing the SR9/Netstream system in the next week or so and begin 
deployment by the end of this month.  Now, it looks like I won't even 
be able to start testing until the end of May.  Even getting a pair of 
the cards to begin testing with would ease my pain and that of the 
eagerly waiting customers


I am really getting up against the wall here.  My time is running out 
and I must find my answer soon.




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Blair

We have received samples and the cards are working well, UB wanted to 
make
sure these radios are 100% before releasing 900Mhz is much more 
difficult

then 2.4 or even 5Ghz. It will be worth the wait.

Sincerely, Tony Morella
Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008
http://www.demarctech.com
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material for the sole use of the intended recipient and receipt by 
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] SR9 cards..

It seems that the delivery date on the SR9 cards from Ubiquiti 
Networks is

now the 2nd week of May

It was first of the year, then March, then April, now May

Can you say 'vaporware'?


--
Blair Davis

AOL IM Screen Name --  Theory240

West Michigan Wireless ISP
269-686-8648

A division of:
Camp Communication Services, INC

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Re: [WISPA] SR9 cards......

2006-04-03 Thread Blair Davis

Tony,

I hope so.  However, I am running out of time.  Let me give you a little 
background.


I have a 2.4GHz system running that covers most of my county.  It is a 
mixture of 802.11 and TurboCell.  The TurboCell provides back haul and 
service for  long range clients, (>3 miles), or for NLoS clients at 
short range. I use the 802.11 for short range, LoS clients (<3 miles). 
This has worked well for us in the past, but, the increasing bandwidth 
demands are overloading our TurboCell back hauls, increasing noise 
levels are decreasing the usable range of our 802.11 AP's, (in one area 
we no longer deploy 802.11 CPE's at all, just TurboCell).


I am now deploying a 5.8GHz Netstream system to replace my TurboCell 
back hauls.  I am also looking into polled systems on 2.4GHz to replace 
my TurboCell CPE's and AP's.  Netstream is my most likely choice here as 
well, but I am open to other polled systems on 2.4GHz as well.


I have one PtP link using TurboCell with RF Linx 915UDC units to get 
thru a severe NLoS for a single user.  This was a very expensive 
deployment and the average customer would not pay for it.  I tested 
several 900MHz systems and found them wanting before settling on the RF 
Linx UDC's..


I now have several subdivisions, heavily tree infested, that want 
service.  They will not accept large towers and antennas on each home, 
but they will accept a single large tower to serve the entire 
subdivision, so a 900MHz or less system for local distribution is the 
only reasonable option I can come up with.  None of the existing 900MHz 
systems I have looked at will both provide 360deg coverage and adequate 
tree penetration using a single AP, and I can not justify 6 60deg AP's 
for a subdivision that might have 20 sign-ups total.  Netstream using 
SR9 cards seems tailor made for this.


Based on the expected ship dates for the SR9, I was expecting to begin 
testing the SR9/Netstream system in the next week or so and begin 
deployment by the end of this month.  Now, it looks like I won't even be 
able to start testing until the end of May.  Even getting a pair of the 
cards to begin testing with would ease my pain and that of the eagerly 
waiting customers


I am really getting up against the wall here.  My time is running out 
and I must find my answer soon.




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Blair

We have received samples and the cards are working well, UB wanted to make
sure these radios are 100% before releasing 900Mhz is much more difficult
then 2.4 or even 5Ghz. It will be worth the wait.

Sincerely, Tony Morella
Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008
http://www.demarctech.com 


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recipient please contact the sender by return electronic mail and delete all
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] SR9 cards..

It seems that the delivery date on the SR9 cards from Ubiquiti Networks is
now the 2nd week of May

It was first of the year, then March, then April, now May

Can you say 'vaporware'?


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Blair Davis

AOL IM Screen Name --  Theory240

West Michigan Wireless ISP
269-686-8648

A division of:
Camp Communication Services, INC

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RE: [WISPA] SR9 cards......

2006-04-03 Thread tonylist
Blair

We have received samples and the cards are working well, UB wanted to make
sure these radios are 100% before releasing 900Mhz is much more difficult
then 2.4 or even 5Ghz. It will be worth the wait.

Sincerely, Tony Morella
Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008
http://www.demarctech.com 
 
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confidential or privileged nature of the communication. Any review or
distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] SR9 cards..

It seems that the delivery date on the SR9 cards from Ubiquiti Networks is
now the 2nd week of May

It was first of the year, then March, then April, now May

Can you say 'vaporware'?


--
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AOL IM Screen Name --  Theory240

West Michigan Wireless ISP
269-686-8648

A division of:
Camp Communication Services, INC

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