Re: [WISPA] Cat5 Grounding
That and put surge suppressors in the Cat5 between the patch panel and the devices. Maybe something like APCs PRM4 http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=PRM4with PNETR http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=PNETR5modules Eric Rogers wrote: Ok... I have been dreaming a little. I have had a couple direct hits on towers because of the storms through the Midwest and it got me thinking... (ouch it hurts)... We put patch panels at the top and bottom of the towers and usually run bundles of cables between. The more I am getting into the RF world and towers, (I am an IT guy by heart), I am thinking that using the 25 pair lines with an armor/shield would be a better way of going. If I ran 2 - 25 pair runs up a tower, then you can follow the grounding ritual of grounding at the equipment, as it comes off a tower, and just before it enters the building with standard coax grounding kits that Tessco and others sell. Thoughts? Anyone do this currently? Eric WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.63/2169 - Release Date: 06/11/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat5 Grounding
I already use them, but doesn't always help. That is our standard setup now. They have saved us many times, but if we take a direct hit, sometimes the equipment makes it, and sometimes it doesn't. For instance, we got hit last night. Only two sectors blew, the rest are still working 9 total radios operating and 2 dead ones. I was just brainstorming and thought if we could ground the cat5 bundle better, it might keep the potential differences to a minimum by grounding at the top, as it leaves the tower, and as it enters the building. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat5 Grounding That and put surge suppressors in the Cat5 between the patch panel and the devices. Maybe something like APCs PRM4 http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=PRM4wi th PNETR http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=PNETR5 modules Eric Rogers wrote: Ok... I have been dreaming a little. I have had a couple direct hits on towers because of the storms through the Midwest and it got me thinking... (ouch it hurts)... We put patch panels at the top and bottom of the towers and usually run bundles of cables between. The more I am getting into the RF world and towers, (I am an IT guy by heart), I am thinking that using the 25 pair lines with an armor/shield would be a better way of going. If I ran 2 - 25 pair runs up a tower, then you can follow the grounding ritual of grounding at the equipment, as it comes off a tower, and just before it enters the building with standard coax grounding kits that Tessco and others sell. Thoughts? Anyone do this currently? Eric WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.63/2169 - Release Date: 06/11/09 05:53:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.62/2168 - Release Date: 06/11/09 05:53:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat5 Grounding
Does anyone have any pictures showing how you break out and ground the Cat5 shield in cases where the radios are at the top of the tower? Thanks, Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads
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Re: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads
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Re: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads
Thanks, but that only took me to a search page with 4,991 Matches. That does not help narrow it down much, just slightly fewer than a Google search produced :) We are looking for ones that can snap onto existing runs/terminations. Thanks! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:44 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?N=2105407 / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Larry A Weidig Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads Can somebody supply me with a link to a source for these? Thanks! * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat5/PoE grounding on tower
Mark, You did not mention what system you are using or cable type. However, if the CAT5 has a braided shield or a drain wire you can use a kit from Andrew that would be applied much in the same fashion as a coax ground kit. Depending on the length of your runs you may wish to ground the middle of the run as well. Typically you want to apply a ground kit at the top, within six feet of termination, middle, bottom and entrance to the cabinet or shelter. Grounds ahead of any 90 degree bend is also commonplace. Do a search on Andrew GK-SUNV. Eric Albert Application Engineer Alvarion, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cat5/PoE grounding on tower We're installing our equipment on a new tower that is very nice clean. There are several providers in the building, and installation is professional. All coax is installed using the proper waveguide brackets, standoffs, etc. All coaxes are grounded before after they enter the building. The problem is that I want to use PoE instead of coax up the tower. I'm looking for a recommendation on what products and/or techniques to use to accomplish this... There will be an outdoor box on the walking platform where we will install our equipment, and about 6 cat5's going up the tower to that box, then into the building at the base. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(43). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat5
We buy Belden shielded outdoor for tower work. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're deploying on a new tower. I'm considering putting 25-pair outdoor cat5 (175'). Anyone have cable they like to use? Anyone have any extra you purchased that you'd like to sell? Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] cat5
Travis, I know you found a source, but if you need anything in the future, try CablesForLess.com. They are here in Indiana, and they make custom cables. I use them for all my cat5 patch cables and I have had good luck. I also know they make cables for the government on old equipment (60s and 70s vintage) that the cables are no longer made. It is not limited to computer/network. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] cat5 Found someone to make them. thanks. Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote: All I can think of would be to make it yourself. I know Panduit does some custom work, but I'm not sure if it extends to what pins are connected on cables. I'll ask. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: [WISPA] cat5 Hi, I am looking for a source for CAT5 patch cables. However, I only want the ethernet pins to be connected (1,2,3 and 6). Any ideas? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] cat5
Found someone to make them. thanks. Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote: All I can think of would be to make it yourself. I know Panduit does some custom work, but I'm not sure if it extends to what pins are connected on cables. I'll ask. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: [WISPA] cat5 Hi, I am looking for a source for CAT5 patch cables. However, I only want the ethernet pins to be connected (1,2,3 and 6). Any ideas? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] cat5
All I can think of would be to make it yourself. I know Panduit does some custom work, but I'm not sure if it extends to what pins are connected on cables. I'll ask. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: [WISPA] cat5 Hi, I am looking for a source for CAT5 patch cables. However, I only want the ethernet pins to be connected (1,2,3 and 6). Any ideas? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat5 cable
chris cooper wrote: Im installing some 120’ runs of cat 5 in building shafts. I also need to take this through a roof penetration and 20’ across the roof to hook up to my radios. I can find exterior cable and riser rated cable, but not one that will serve both needs. Anybody have any idea where I can find such a beast? Thanks Chris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: 7/31/2006 Chris, In most areas it must be plenum if it is in a common shaftway between floors without firestops. What you will probably need to do is transition from plenum to outdoor where it leaves the building. I'm sure that's not what you had in mind but if you are under code it may be your cheapest way. Just transition at a 66 block that is CAT5 rated. Otherwise, the plenum cable directly to the equipment outside will last you several years without issue. You could also install it inside pvc conduit on sleepers off the roof surface to extend life. Good Luck, -B- -- Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. Broadband Deployment Group 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, New York 11741 USA 800-479-9195 Toll Free US Canada 631-585-5558 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat5 cable
No but you could put the 20' in conduit. Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: chris cooper To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Cat5 cable Im installing some 120 runs of cat 5 in building shafts. I also need to take this through a roof penetration and 20 across the roof to hook up to my radios. I can find exterior cable and riser rated cable, but not one that will serve both needs. Anybody have any idea where I can find such a beast? Thanks Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat5 cable
You will probably want to use plenum for the entire run. see http://www.phonicear.com/learnplenum.asp regards, Paul www.opnehsmm.org On 8/2/06, chris cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im installing some 120' runs of cat 5 in building shafts. I also need to take this through a roof penetration and 20' across the roof to hook up to my radios. I can find exterior cable and riser rated cable, but not one that will serve both needs. Anybody have any idea where I can find such a beast? Thanks Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
