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PA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] license for amplifier? > you decide the level of service, personally I think the amplifier is the > worst choice, I would prefer to use the devices on the tower (and yes we > have devices on tower with ice). > > But you asked for the electro

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Re: [WISPA] license for amplifier?

wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of RickG >> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:09 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] license for amplifier? >> >> Gotcha. Unfortunately, this tower only has a half dozen subs. The cost >> of t

Re: [WISPA] license for amplifier?

Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:09 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] license for amplifier? > > Gotcha. Unfortunately, this tower only has a half dozen

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09 11:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] license for amplifier? Gotcha. Unfortunately, this tower only has a half dozen subs. The cost of those options prohibit use in this scenario. Thanks again. -RickG On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > FCC friendly backha

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Try RF Linx RickG wrote: I am planning to install a 5Ghz backhaul from my main tower to a remote. It will have the antenna on the top, 150' of LMR-400 and the radio at the bottom. To make up for the loss, I ordered a 500mw amp from L-Com. Unfortunately, they cancelled the order saying I nee

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...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] license for amplifier? Ya, because this is an "upgrade", I looked at this from the wrong direction. So, do you think I can make up for a 150' cable with just a radio?

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Correct. Not unless the amp is certified with your radio system. Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] license for amplifier

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There may be some however I can't think of any off the top of my head. Usually the amplifier is built right into the equipment. Nothing prevents some smart equipment vendor from certifying a system designed to meet Rick's needs where the equipment and amp is designed to be mounted at the base o

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That actually raises a good question - are there things out there that are certified with an amp for a situation like Rick's? I assume the Tsunami's were as they only exist as a rackmount option. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When

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No you can't unless the original equipment manufacturer designed an amp as part of the original system and had their system certified with that amp. RickG wrote: So, you cant legally make up for cable loss with an amp? -RickG On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Jack Unger wrote:

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Only one site have I seen big coax up the tower. Tsunami gear worked well on a 150' LMR400 but they had like 3 megs... We tried putting the Radwinmux (Ceragon?) ODU at the base of the tower and it was comparable but caused lock ups and loss of link a few times. Once that was put by the antenna p

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Ya, because this is an "upgrade", I looked at this from the wrong direction. So, do you think I can make up for a 150' cable with just a radio? -RickG On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Rick, > > Sounds like a Job for Ubnt or MT. > > $200 from Ubnt and a pair of antennas and

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Rick, Sounds like a Job for Ubnt or MT. $200 from Ubnt and a pair of antennas and you're done. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." ---

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Long ago we used amps to overcome cable loss, before there was a good choice for POE or IF based systems. Every single one of them either failed or went flaky (YDI and other like units) I'm so distrustful of them, I wouldnt even sell them on ebay. When I have issues with the equipment at the to

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Gotcha. Unfortunately, this tower only has a half dozen subs. The cost of those options prohibit use in this scenario. Thanks again. -RickG On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > FCC friendly backhaul options as was suggested. > > The alternative in case you're unable to use an a

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FCC friendly backhaul options as was suggested. The alternative in case you're unable to use an amplifier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the

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Josh, Thanks for the link to a beautiful chart but what does it have to do with an amp? -RickG On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Microwave Backhaul Comparison Chart - > WISPTech > > Josh Luthman > Office:

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So, you cant legally make up for cable loss with an amp? -RickG On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Jack Unger wrote: > Unlicensed freqs don't require a license however you can not legally add > an amplifier to a system (in this case, your 5 GHz backhaul) that was > not originally certified with th

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I've only lost one amp over the years as opposed to many issues with equipment at the top. -RickG On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:48 AM, jp wrote: > Big thank you to L-com. > > Use a POE based backhaul product to avoid cable loss. The amp will also > hurt your noise floor by amplifying interference/no

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WOW! L-Com++! Usually you hear lots of banter on these sites about "so and so vendor is selling big time illegal stuff" but this time.. I guess not! Starting to feel like the local feed store not selling grandma the industrial pesticide because it is just not legal or sane! I like this, maybe I

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Microwave Backhaul Comparison Chart - WISPTech Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, mu

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Big thank you to L-com. Use a POE based backhaul product to avoid cable loss. The amp will also hurt your noise floor by amplifying interference/noise as well. If you are concerened about unreliability of having electronics atop the tower with regard to a POE radio solution, an amp is electroni

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Unlicensed freqs don't require a license however you can not legally add an amplifier to a system (in this case, your 5 GHz backhaul) that was not originally certified with the amplifier that you want to use. Hams, who are licensed and who share some frequencies with unlicensed operators do not